What If There Were No Taxes?
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Everybody hates paying taxes, but what if no one had to pay them? As strange as this may seem to modern Americans, until the 16th amendment, the USA didn’t have a permanent federal income tax. So how would America be different if federal income taxes had never been made into law? Watch the episode to find out.
*As some of our viewers noted, in our previous version we did not thoroughly explain how the Federal Government allocates tax dollars between mandatory spending (which goes to entitlement programs and is mandated by law) and discretionary spending (which is what congress makes decisions on annually during the appropriations process). Since we always strive for accuracy and clarity, in this revised version we explore the difference as it relates to both military/defense budgets and the cost of entitlement spending, and how a lack of a federal income tax would have effected their histories. Thank you to our viewers for being informed, engaging with the content, and pushing Origin of Everything to be as clear and accurate as possible.
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*As some of our viewers noted, in our previous version we did not thoroughly explain how the Federal Government allocates tax dollars between mandatory spending (which goes to entitlement programs and is mandated by law) and discretionary spending (which is what congress makes decisions on annually during the appropriations process). Since we always strive for accuracy and clarity, in this revised version we explore the difference as it relates to both military/defense budgets and the cost of entitlement spending, and how a lack of a federal income tax would have effected their histories. Thank you to our viewers for being informed, engaging with the content, and pushing Origin of Everything to be as clear and accurate as possible.
Federal taxation does not fund federal spending and tax revenue is deleted by Fed govt. Fed Govt creates new money every time it spends.
@@henrygustav7948 Tax revenues goes to interest to the federal reserve as interest...private bankers
@@gailbenton8642 when tax revenue is recognized?
@@gailbenton8642 tax revenue is deleted by Fed govt, by definition deleted means it can't go to pay any interest. Interest on national debt is paid for thru keystrokes. By debiting securities accounts held at Fed reserve and crediting reserve accounts. This is how bonds that mature are paid off. Nothing to do with taxation. The Federal reserve BY law must give up all its profits to the treasury, what sort of private banker would do that hm?
modernmoneynetwork.org/resources/taxes-revenue-are-obsolete
I think it should be mandatory that we receive an annual report on exactly how much, when, and where our sales and/or income tax goes to...especially since we have enough privatized companies and organizations that probably fund things we all don't actually want to pay for....
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Understand the report. Plus if they made a report you would say it's suspo they have to prove it.
Taxed on your income, taxed on your purchases, taxed on those purchases each year (property or vehicle), taxed on licenses, taxed on utilities (phone), taxed on each plane layover stop...that $1 is taxed so much that - what is the dollar really worth after you make it?
JA G honestly, we pay taxes even we buy a fucking bag of chips.
@@MM-vq5xb and a swear tax of $1 for every word used. 🥴
We still get screwed up! So much for escaping England to free us from taxes! For what, they will get us just the same way!
@@raymorales4481 be likr qatar and brunei then? I heard they dont pay income tax.
Taxation is theft. It's as simple as that.
If we decreased the federal income taxes and forced the government to find other creative ways to raise money like anyone other person or organization looking to raise funds we would have fewer corrupt politicians today.
what's your recommendation?
@tarawrr20, i disagree, i think without a income tax you would have more corruption but on the state level.
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Let me piggyback on your comment here: anything involving with goods and money will have some form of corruption.
Easier said then done, but the only way for a group to not be as openly corrupt is to either
A. Take away their sinful nature
Or
B. Take away the temptation for them to act on said corrupted nature.
How about eliminate Federal Spending, if the taxes are still present, decrease the spending by 95% and eliminate Mandatory Spending.
The real question that needs to be asked is, "What if there was no Federal Reserve?" Taxation, national debt, inflation and every financial scandal you can think of are all just symptoms of that disease!!
Hhmmm... Let me see. No taxes means less war, less welfare spending, more independence??? I'm all for it!!
Yeah, there’ll be less war because you won’t be able to fight back when people try to take your land
son bun yeah, cuz you can’t read other people’s minds so you can’t trust them not to go to war with you.
son bun nah, you just need them for defence in case they act first
son bun what’s wrong with the mindset that you will be attacked? Doesn’t the us have a lot of enemies?
Lionel Joseph survival of the fittest
"What if there were no taxes" well... That's a question we all ask ourselves when we look at our payslips and realize the OT hours we done for our company went to the greedy tax man.
All that we work so hard for ,and they take it away! And we live in a free country! What a lie!!!
Thats why quickly opt out of that shit.
@Orfa iarumas The tax man does not earn money from your taxes.Your taxes go to defense,roads,schools and so forth.If you wanna look how any country looks without taxes and government revenue I recommend you visit Somalia.And the amount taxed from you is minuscule from the amount stolen by your company from your paycheck way before the Federal Government came in.
@@mauricio9564 Or the Bahamas, Bahrain, Brunei, the Cayman Islands, Kuwait, the Maldives, Monaco, Nauru, Oman, Qatar, the UAE, the Western Sahara, or Vanuatu
@@a_e_hilton Yeah, right? Almost all of the tax money that we pay, they take it for the military. That's why I don't like paying taxes at all. I wish it would go to school funding, roads, and defense tho.
I understand the need for some taxes but what about taxes on prizes, taxes on your 401k, when you are 65 taxes on social security, property taxes. Like when do you actually own anything? Why do insurance premiums go up every year but never down. Why does rent and everything else but wages go up? Ugh 👉 😕 💨
Yeah, due to being laid off and being unable to get a job quickly enough, I had to dig into my 401K, aside from the standard tax on income you have to pay for it, the government also takes another flat 10% as a penalty, so basically, something bad happens to you, the government penalizes you for it as well by taking a massive 10 fucking percent. Its utterly disgusting, and what do we get for it? Very, very, very little
Great question, why does the government impose an additional 10% penalty if you access money in 401k or IRA's. They take the standard income taxs (state and federal) and then the Feds tack on 10% and call it a penalty for early withdrawals? Its our money in the 1st place. We earned it. Penalty means to punish. Punishments are ment to detour or stop specific actions. What harm does the federal government indure by us accessing what is already ours. Whats next penalizing our savings accounts?
@Dianna Fayard As nice as it would be to not pay any taxs, where would the funds come from for military/national security(secure borders) and other important federally funded necessities? IMO, a politician is supposed to be a person of the highest integrity, HONEST, and one that lives/ breathes constitutional law. Lower how much they are paid!!! ALOT!!! $170,000 being paid to people that just abuse the power for personal gains has infected our leaders to the point that we are the laughing stock of the world.
The taxes on your social security go back into the social security trust fund.
@@jeffcourtney8101 Joe Biden was talking about the irs being able to view our bank accounts. We need to take a stand
If there were no income taxes, they may have concocted more creative ways to raise necessary funds than just war bonds...dunno. Definitely an interesting question. It’s too bad you had to speed so fast over the complexities of “no taxation without representation.” That’s some pretty intense drama right there.
what's your recommendation?
Interest on debt, the part of the budget that was described as the smallest, is a little less than half the size of the defense budget. Yet, it's only roughly 9% of the amount spent on wealth-redistribution/entitlements... Sounds to me like entitlements are the real problem. Not to mention that it's pretty messed up how we are being taxed so much just to pay interest on debt that we shouldn't have in the first place.
Stupid to think welfare spending is "bad" in the way war is "bad".
If we don't have anarchy, then we SHOULD force government to pay to take care of all childfree persons EQUALLY.
If gov't won't stop breeders from breeding and forcing people into existence without their consent, then we SHOULD force government to pay to take care of all childfree persons EQUALLY.
@@theultimatereductionist7592 The government doesn't have anything to give... Actually, they have less than nothing; they have nearly negative $30 trillion! Every dime the government gives to someone, they have to steal from someone else first.
The "income tax" was intended for raising an army... thus, that is all the income tax should fund. Mandatory should be limited to payroll taxes. The rest of the federal govt should be reverted back to the states.
Kinda like how homework was originally a punishment but then someone hundred of years decided to make it for all students and be a part of the education system.
All these corporations should pay for the roads and schools. It is their machinery and trucks that do the wear and tear. If they financed public education, then maybe the kids would actually learn something, because I am sure they would want to hold the schools more accountable
corporations have their own ways not to pay taxes
Roads and schools are paid for from taxes on gas and schools get there money for property tax.
They don’t have to stay in America...
Read the title as "What if there were no Texas?"
Can you add timestamp(s) for the changes in the description?
You should do a video about why the US spends so much on military
It's close to a trillion dollars I think right now
To bully nations of the world afcourse.
To remain the toughest and most threatening country so other countries think twice before attacking us
To be the cornerstone of the world you need to unfortunately have the ability to go to war with whomever. It's a role we backed ourselves into and can't go away from without chaos across the world. Everyone can run their mouth about America but if we fail the world fails and we go back to a form of the dark ages.
@@muhwaq123 false!
Everyone would be richer
Indeed, but there would be zero contribution to fund projects that benefit the country as a whole as everyone is too greedy to look at the bigger picture and would spend it only on themselves
@@gmgunnhildr2711 The way things get made is by somebody trying to make a profit by inventing a new product and then mass produce it by hiring people and that by it self is benefitting the country
Bastian thoning well, imagine someone was selling roads for people to use. Who exactly would pay for the roads to be built? The people would have to pool their money together to pay for that. That’s what taxes are. You can disagree, of course, but please provide evidence. Thank you.
@@gmgunnhildr2711 usually when it comes to highways its often people who want to make money on people who will drive on their roads as example if you drive 20 miles on a highway their will charge you for that.. besides how do you think roads where built before taxes huh?...
@@gmgunnhildr2711
So you gotta force unwilling citizens to squeezd their money out? Mind you, this tax money is also used to pay politicians(you basically pay for the politicans wtf), and is also used to bomb everything
"If Taxes Didn't Exist, Yoshi will be Happy without Taxes."
What if, you know we stop policing other nations and only spent on national defense?
Establishment politicians and parts of the military industrial complex wont let it😔
I love this show -- shes so easy to listen to! So glad I subscribed.
It's the hypnotizing NPR Voice = Project Mocking Bird?
What she didn’t even talk about how it would be like to be without taxes, your just a sheep listening to bs u coulda learned in history class if you listened
What do we need defence against? May I suggest a giant padded planet next time with a bunch of straight jackets.
The government wastes most of the money it gets.
Knock knock
Airman: "Hi, we're from the US military. Would you like to show your support for only $30 per month? We'll give you this free blanket or teddy bear with a uniform if you do."
Homeowner: "sorry, I gave at the Pentagon."
Setting aside the Revolutionary War and "no taxation without representation" (because in theory at least now it's representative...ish), is there a particular reason that it's not considered patriotic to pay taxes? I'm a veteran, and it blows my mind to see how proudly people trumpet their loopholes and deductions they find on taxes. Back when America was "great", during and directly after WWII, the tax rate was astronomical, and hey, maybe that's part of why things were so great back then. Big public works projects, job corps, unbroken roads, unbroken bridges... That stuff costs money, to say nothing of things like the government shutting down while I was in Afghanistan.
I'll leave it there, but it continues to bug me that the act of not chipping in one's fair share is celebrated in America today. Yes, it's possible for taxes to be too high, but the answer is not doing away with them completely.
Cos 'patriotic' means different things to different people. For some, it's a dedication to their country as a real place and its people, for others it's adherence to a set of ideals they believe their nation is meant to represent. And for some of the latter (libertarians, to be specific), the US represents a commitment to absolute (or as close to absolute as possible) individual liberty and personal freedom. Also, in their eyes, the US was greatest not necessarily when it held the most world power or the highest standard of living, but rather when it worked most in keeping with those ideals (with the global power and standard of living being just consequences of that). Basically, some people dedicate themselves more to their fellow men, others more to a certain ideal or vision (real or imagined).
COULD NOT AGREE MORE!
I recently read Hand to Mouth: Living in Bootstrap America by Linda Tirado and she makes the point that it's considered lazy/selfish/immoral by many to take "handouts" from the government such as food assistance, etc. But a tax loophole is celebrated as "outsmarting" the government and celebrated by those same judgemental people.
I like roads, I like public schools, I like being able to travel without limitations from waterways (esp living in North Carolina), etc...therefore I happily pay taxes.
This is exactly, word by word, what is happening in Greece today. So I would put it down in general human behavior. Also, the sheer vagueness of the term 'nation' and the associated 'allegiance' to it is open to myriads of interpretations. It's highly questionable how necessary (if not dangerous) nation states are in a world that is constantly turning into a global community connected with ever advancing methods of communication and transportation (notice how I question nation states, not the nations themselves).
In fact candidate Trump responded to an accusation that he paid no tax during several years, "That's because I'm smart."
Some people may be trying to outsmart the Gov't but not all. Some honestly can't afford the amount taken for taxes. Jobs are still hard to come by for some and it even harder to find full time employment. Some vompanies now want part time workers who they give low hours. Having to fork over 20-30% of that can be a bit hard to swallow.
I would say one tax rate for all of us. If the poor man has to 25% income taxes so should the rich man.
No unified federal government; would lend to sucession and states against states until once again a unified federal government would be established. The greater a population becomes, the more public services required. Humans propensity toward self interest would culminate into the feudalism we care currently heading into.
The federal government should be split into 330K governments.
Before the 16th Amendment, except for the Civil War tax (which was repealed because it violated the Constitutional clause that forbade any direct taxes that weren’t proportional to the population of the states where they were collected), the primary domestic tax was a tax on alcohol. The dream of religious people and reformers to ban alcohol wasn’t possible, because the federal government would go broke! The 16th Amendment which allowed the income tax, and the looming threat of women voting, made the 18th Amendment, banning almost all alcoholic beverages, legally and financial possible.
This is inaccurate in that social security and medicare are a seperate tax all together so the spending is not taken from income taxes. So in truth the military is the largest expenditure of "imcome tax" revenues.
With no taxes wed be way better off. Why do we have taxes? To feed rich fat cats. Thats all it is. I say we get rid of taxes AND the IRS . :) keep 100% of your money
Right to me wages aren't income. Using wages to make money income then that would what should be taxed first off. Plus many make unreported income anyways money making money
Prohibition might have happened differently, as the reason it was able to become law in the first place was the 16th amendment.
If you want to know what the U.S would be like without Federal taxes, just look at the Articles of Confederation (The first U.S. Government before the Constitution). The Articles of Confederation were inadequate to protect the country because the states were to "voluntarily" supposed to contribute the the Federal government. The Article of Confederation told the Government to raise an army but gave them no way to raise money. Hence the need for the Constitution.
Luv the way you answer previous questions, thank you, it makes me interested in previous videos
A thought experiment: What if all government spendings were printed money? It would cause inflation but people would have more so the negative effects would even out. With tax money there will be an insurance that there are enough resources available but there are other ways to acheive that than collecting taxes.
Love this series! Keep up the awesome work! :)
Thank you so much for this wonderful video ........ !
5:37 who else hit the pause button?
Our money makes up 47% but corporate money is a measly 9%?!
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES IF YOU ARE LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTRY??? HOW DOES USA LAW APPLY TO YOU IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
The purpose of taxes changes dramatically under commodity backed money and fiat money, which you have not explained. It is very important and should not be left out of the discussion.
Ha ha...you said we'd be less unified. How unified are we right now?
You forgot to say that when Lincoln implemented that income tax it was only for 10 years. And then he was true to his word and it was gone once the debt was paid off.
No mention of Pollock v Farmers??? That was the whole reason for the 16th Amendment and is also a great example of checks and balances as the Congress used the amendment to overturn a Supreme Court decision just like 14 overturned Dred Scott.
Nice to know another informed person income taxes where never imposed on us.
My family is from New Bern NC and the largest slave holder was a black man named John Carruthers Stanly. There were so many complex stories, I am glad you are bringing some to light. Keep up the wonderful videos!
No to the IRS
i love your videos.. you put a lot of work into gathering your information. your captivating and easy to listen to while still paying attention. i would love to see you being a teacher or professor, although i wouldn't want you to leave youtube!
I was pondering that the timeline of the institution Federal tax might correlate with the emancipation proclamation
There would be no United States. Every state, especially the poor ones who are dependent on federal government subsidized by rich states, would act in their own interest doing things like owning human beings or worse which would alienate other states. In essence we would act like different countries.
If ego and greed wasn’t a factor we would be all good
Researchers have documented that there about 90,000 Federal Taxes on American Individuals, Families, and Businesses. Business Taxes directly effect Individual Americans because those businesses must raise the costs of goods and services to cover for those taxes. This vast amount of tax revenue is then managed by Congress, most of whose members have no experience in Financial Management.
Taxes collected today are the quicker version done before - strong-arming, which can still be implemented. Which would have to be done every day, by thousands of people. Per state.
I think the confederacy would have won....the federal income tax is a gift and a curse. My issue lies more with tax code that allows the rich and wealthy to avoid paying their fair share.
Ironically, the Private Bank named the Federal Reserve also started in 1913.
Coincidence?
If there's no taxes there's no government employees.
That's not the peoples problem . that's there problem .
3:30 that music!!
there are two ways to not pay taxes 1. work for the church and 2. be unemployable everywhere you try to get a job at.
My dad is a retired minister. Because he was considered "self employed", he actually owed every year. So yeah, working for the church does not exempt you from paying income tax. The church as an organization cannot be taxed due to separation of church and state (which is great in theory, but some churches... UGH), but those who are employed still have to pay income tax.
"Render to Caesar, what is of Caesar"
We are not under a dictator anymore.
Brutus certainly did..!
Danielle Bainbridge, i must say you are really growing on me. I have recently starting to watch your videos. You are informative and interesting thank you
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How about the origins of why we teach history in school.
Tap Rat maybe so you don’t have existential dread over where you came from and have no conception of what your cultural identity is?
Taxes.........what a concept !!!
Quite frankly I think the government expenditures are backwards. Military spending should be mandatory, as for the defense of the Nation, set not to exceed 10% of the nations GDP, a flat tax, unless in war time, and then only enough to pay back any debts incurred during war. Also, a portion should be set aside for the regulation of the House and Senate to defend international commerce. Any un-used money for Military use should be added to the next years top line for money needed for defense, not the bottom line. Any non-used money for the Houses should also be given to the defense funds at the top line so as to limit any "kick-backs" for un-used funds going to the House and Senate. Anyone in any State or U.S.Government must also be reviewed for "insider trading", as they make the laws and can use them to their own financial benefit, and brought to death if proven as insider trading. This must be investigated by an on-going rotating set of investigators made by corporations by 25% and the citizenry by 75%, equal and independent reviews of all the States, and U.S. Government.. This would eliminate most corrupt politicians. The U.S. government could not tax it's citizens, without each and every State making a review, at their own State's expense, such investigation to be reviewed by each State, and only a majority allow any increase of governmental expenditures, and thus remove corruption in the U.S. Government, House, Senate, Presidency, or any newly made organization of any account. Each State should review all Federal expenditures as to keep a close eye on overspending. As the government should not be in the business of social welfare, those things should be left to the States, and their taxation requirements and their laws for social reform. This would limit the Federal Government to its true job, diplomacy and national defense. This would force States within the U.S. to be better informed, and waste less, as to not drive out commerce and work forces due to taxes being too high. People and corporations must be able to move, State to State, if the votes against their pocket books are too expensive for increasing wealth in commerce, and bring their work wealth to a more accommodating State. The U.S. government would then be able to raise or lower Federal Taxation according to its military and diplomatic means, not by "Pork Barrel" spending, and regulated by the 50 States independently. Then the tax payers could switch their vote by simply moving to a lesser taxed State, which would ensure the lessoning of corruption of any State as well as the Federal Government by overtaxing the citizens. Just my 2 cents, well after seeing my response, maybe a buck and a half LOL.
So war makes strong government stronger and weaker at the same time 🤔
16th Amendment gave the perception to expand Congress's right to place a capitational income tax upon American citizens. The income tax within the United States is an excise tax, or privelege tax. Privelege taxes are made liable to foreign residents and Americans citizens living abroad drawing foreign source income. Congress has never mandated an income tax on American citizens domestically according to the code of federal regulations, which is the law of the land.
Great video
What would America look like if there were no federal income tax??
Well people would be a lot more free. The federal government was never supposed to be as big and powerful as it is today.
Free to jump deeper into the gutter. Human nature has to be controlled.
I was singing Hamilton songs the whole time, rip.
Hamilton was a piece of shit that tried to make himself a military dictator by tricking an old Washington into putting him in charge of the military.
On a good note, without the surplus budget the Military would've not done as much damage to other countries for the sake of political control because they would've not been able to afford it. This would also mean that a lot of the casualties like 9/11 would've not happened because there wasn't a reason for it.
Me: Id rather have no taxes, we'd have a better life!
Government: So you want anarchy huh?
Me: Errrrrr never mind.....
You seriously think We The People would do worse then this overlord system?
There would be a high level of personal freedom. It would be a world we would not recognize. We could have many stay at home parents. We could more easily get out and stay out of debt. But the banks and govts would lose massive money and control over the people.
Enjoyed the info. States are supposed to have power over the federal government. With the Federal income tax the government now bullies the states into doing things the way it wants. I don’t mind paying taxes but the amount taken out is way too much. The most any of us should ever pay is maybe 5% max, and that is pushing it. Taking 12% out my paycheck hits harder than taking 33% out of a wealthy persons.
Could you do an episode on what if there were a flat tax?
Flat Tax is great - maybe we can eliminate filing! But we stll have to pay the interest only (the tax) on our countries money supply? Why is the money all Notes = IOU's to the Fed?
Russia has it
ORIGIN??? _What About _*_OMAR IBN KHATTAB_*_ Who Preceded The First Income And Sales Tax System Early 600s_
In 1923, then-Captain Dwight D. Eisenhower was charged with taking a convoy of military goods from the East Coast to the West Coast. As the convoy proceeded, he constantly found areas with poor-to-nonexistent roads, rivers with no way to cross, and other hazards. As a military historian, he knew about late-Medieval towns that were set up on a grid system so that the local militia could get cannon and men to any point on the walls expeditiously, and he vowed that, if he ever had the chance, he would do something similar for the United States. That opportunity came when he was president, and he started the creation of the interstate highway system we all enjoy today. However, without federal taxes, that idea would never have come to fruition. (Trivia: The symbol for the interstate highway system is a circle of five stars on a light blue background. This refers to the fact that Eisenhower is the only five-star general we've had to date.)
You pay for them whether you use them or not.
@@johnnyslokes2712 True, but that means that they're available should you need them. Even if you yourself don't drive, if you ride with a person who does, you are using them.
@@HannibalFan52 But I never asked for them to exist in the first place, my legs work just fine and I also know how to ride a bike and I'm pretty proficient at roller blading if need be.
They provide something that I didn't ask for and don't use but got to pay for it anyways. I wasn't alive then. And this isn't just reserved for the roads either.
@@johnnyslokes2712 Apparently, you've totally missed the point. Whether you personally use them or not, you still benefit from the fact that they exist. Most, if not all, of everything you purchase is trucked via these roads. If they didn't exist, much of what you purchase would either not be available to you, or would be hideously expensive. Therefore, you *do* benefit from them. Since you don't use them yourself (or so you claim), you're not paying the tolls, which help pay for maintenance.
By the way, the main purpose of these roads, as I pointed out in my original post, is the benefit the military, in that they expedite the movement of troops and supplies in case of invasion. (Unlikely, perhaps, but we didn't expect Pearl Harbor, either.) One mile in every five is as straight as possible, to act as runways for military transport planes. (Civilian pilots have benefitted from this in the event of emergency landings.) We civilians have the advantage of using them in the meantime.
You brag that you are capable of traveling by other means. That's fine. However, should the occasion arise that you would have to travel a fair distance (say, between states), I doubt you'd use any of the modes of transportation you mention. You whinge that you have to pay a few dollars a year for the upkeep of the roads. It's a pittance compared to the benefits you receive in return.
@@HannibalFan52 You missed the point where Im forced to pay for something that I never asked for. I never asked for it, plain and simple and thats why I don't pay any taxes.
I didnt ask trucks to drive down the roads to deliver food. But that's besides the point because gasoline and registration fees pays for the roads in Michigan. Although the roads are so shitty here, it looks like they aren't funded in some places.
You say that main purpose of roads is for the military but thats also government which is something else I never asked for.
Just dont see why I should be responsible for paying for it, when I can live without it. I dont think you understand how minimalistic I try to be.
If you want what the government is offering (as I'm sure others want it to) then yall should pay for it.
If I got a say and got to pick and choose what my taxes paid for then I'd be all for it mostly
but we don't get to and I will never understand why we can opt in or out of a service.
Like I cant have kids and will never have kids but I have to pay for other kids to go to school.
Or paying for firefighters that I'll never call or use.
Or paying for police I'll never call or use, just get extorted from instead.
With so much independence of government, would the United States keep existing as one political entity? Or it become like the Commonwealth?
Pretty much we just need to go after the British and the Queen
Paradise
I don't think you explored at all what it would look like if there was no income tax. I still didn't get a sense of what our country would be like without income tax ever being a thing
The US Military is called ‘’Defense’’. The more appropriate name should be ‘’Offense’’, not ‘’Defense’’
States would play a bigger role- which means the people direct have larger representation in the government. You'd still have financing for wars- this glances over that the us fought the Whiskey Rebellion, Shays Rebellion, Fries Rebellion, Jefferson's war against Tripolian Pirates, 1812, and the Mexican-American war (among other conflicts) without income tax- and that income tax was possible prior to said law so long as it was done proportionately to the Representative base in the Congress rather than progressive income targeting. Meaning: You voted for it? You pay for it...
And had we had that larger role of paying what we vote for... maybe Americans would be less irresponsible with our money.
I'm confused. Everyone's hating on taxes. But do people really think roads and other basic infrastructure are free?
What if all Govs had their own currency and the Private sector used a global currency?
It sounds easy to just raise taxes for military but what about social security, Medicaid, Medicare, disaster funding, pandemic funding, salaries, space exploration, research, school funds, on an on , creative funding that could never happen to the degree needed. I am in favor of simplifying our legislative bills so no crazy attachment that has nothing to do with the bill. Also simplify the bills they should never be thousands of pages., No career positions . No crazy deductions for the wealthy . On and on
No career politians
So do we tax the US territories w/o allowing them to vote?
Ref SEDM.org or SEDM youtube channel RE definitions of U.S., USA, States of the U.S. and 50 States of the Union. They change for each section of the codes definitions...."for purposes of this section..."the U.S. is located in the District of Columbia" - 9UCC, 307(h). The "U.S." is defined differently in all U.S. Law; in IRS Code USC26, it only included the "50 Union States" in the "Petroleum Clause", but clearly doesn't include 50 States in all other parts of the USC26! The "50 Union States" is only "included" in that "Petroleum Clause at the end or USC 26 - reference Cornell.org.
Would no federal tax also mean no federal reserve and not leading the US Dollar as world's reserve currency?
If we eventually printed greenbacks like we still had up to 1960's (not IOU's = Notes owed to the Fed), we would still be the world's reserve currency?
I wish the tax rate was 3%.
Um the title says taxes (in general) not just income taxes. My comment now is based on no taxes whatsoever. Please fix title. It's a bit click-baity...but very informative. Thank you
So basically New Jersey would be its own country?!🤔🧐😳🤨
There's very little that state or federal government needs to be involved in. First of all they do not need to be involved in education. I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for that but so what. Probably the only thing that they need to be involved in is military. The defense of the country and the states that's probably it. And even in that area they could tighten their belt. There's so much bloated expenditure in the military and any government entity. But if we narrowed what the government did down to the military then it would be a pretty tight budget.
Toe tagged with the number and your legal name. Which is illegal by way of uniformed consent
Taxation is an implied power because of the fact that direct powers to wage war something has to pay for it so the power to tax by the government before that government of the United States had to get money from each state from their taxes to the people and it was hard to get the states to support the states that you mentioned as the wealthier states are also the highest cost of living states the prices for simply living there your rent or owning a home basic food things like that cost more than in other states I have been out of school for a while so my memory of all the details about implied powers versus direct powers and states rights versus the united government is a little faded
Society would rely on itself, not whatever this is.
social security is not out of the federal budget. It has it's own tax.
Independent States? Oh great, now Gov. Cuomo can be Emperor Cuomo.
Are we constantly making ammunition or making more vehicles when the U.S. is not actively engaged in conflict. Like those conflicts, the taxes should fluctuate significantly. Government should pay for its own debt like we do. Stop spending the fiat cash and stay within a reasonable budget.
Ever heard of rentier state? Sell natural resources, internally and externally, either through state-owned mines, quarries, fisheries, lumberyards or through tax on natural resource extraction (not farming). No taxes but great social services. Only bad thing is govt is less responsive as they dont need money from the people (eg Qatar, et al)
Repeal 16!
This topic could have been explored so much more. I dislike the fact that it was only an American history lesson when there are places in the world today that don't pay income tax such as The Bahamas, Qatar and Monaco to name a few.
so, basically, there was NO tax, because why the hell I should give MY money to some strange guy which promises to spend it better than I can spend it :) This is also an answer to the question "what if there were no taxes?" It will be alright, you earn your money, ypu spend your money, no collapse or end of the world.
We can also tell that wars were always used as an excuse to implement taxes, and people agreed in front of some "enemy" and the desire to end war. BUT taxes implemented foe war were never revoked after the end of the war :) and people were already used to pay it. Not saying even that ww1 and ww2 were little concern for US because they were not even happening in the US.
I have two questions here:
1. Why were taxes introduced "for war" not revoked at the end of that war?
2. Could it be that war or enemy can be invented artificially to take more money from people? Like, if there is no war and enemy, we can invent war and enemy or just imagine it. E.g. countries stopped to fight each other, then ok, let's imagine terrorism threat as a new enemy and new reason to implement and raise money :)
It all looks like just a big and long-term theft. What didn't work from first try, worked from the second. The final outcome is that some people take money from others and increase the number more and more each century. If you count all your taxes then you will understand that 2 out of 3 days of your life you work for someone else, for free, as a slave and then you need help with health/lose of job/accident/etc. and you must pay by yourself :)
if we had no federal taxes would the US government that rules over the states Would we still have Taxs in the USA
Boy if I could have all my tax's back and a tax free life going forward!
Please let it be
What If There Were No Taxes? then the world would not afford to stop us (:
To say Alabama is poorer than New Jersey by simply stating median household income is a very misleading statement. Cost of living needs to be factored in. NJ has a higher state tax, property taxes, etc.... This is in no way an apples to apples comparison.
No taxes, no war