How the Aztec Empire was Built by Spies

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
  • Check out A People's History of Native America here: • The Inconvenient Truth...
    In ancient Mesoamerica, an elite class of merchants helped build the Aztec Empire. How? By mastering the arts of spycraft, disguise, and self-sacrifice. These Pochteca acquired plenty of wealth and status and they traveled between cities to collect tribute, trade for valuables, and most importantly work undercover to gather information. But this wealth and power sometimes came at a deadly cost.
    Where exactly is Aztlán located? Is it a physical place or an ideological construction? Here is what we are listening and reading.
    Creating Aztlán : Chicano art, indigenous sovereignty, and lowriding across Turtle Island, by Dylan A. T. Miner
    Smith, Michael E.. The Aztecs, John Wiley & Sons, Incorporated, 2011
    Tales from Aztlantis (podcast)
    A note from the producer: The visual representation of Indigenous peoples in this episode relies heavily on the imagery contained in The Florentine Codex which was created by Fray Bernardino de Sahagún (1499--1590), a Franciscan missionary who arrived in Mexico in 1529, as part of the Spanish colonial project. Sahagún purported that he worked with Indigenous community members to ensure the accuracy of the imagery and that some of it was actually created by those community members. Sahagún’s claims are accepted by some scholars and disputed by others. It cannot be independently verified.
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:22 Who were the Mexica
    01:41 Pochteca, Merchant Ppies
    03:17 Imperial Martyrs
    04:22 Nose Lord
    06:18 Warrior's Death

Комментарии • 129

  • @tarawalker7193
    @tarawalker7193 4 месяца назад +95

    I love these PBS shows. Thank you for growing with us outside of our childhood. 😊

  • @dese4999
    @dese4999 4 месяца назад +140

    From the Colonial Virgin Islands. Thank you for continual focus on more than Eurocentric history💚💛❤️

    • @chideraalexanderdex547
      @chideraalexanderdex547 4 месяца назад +12

      It's truly a gift to be able to learn the great histories of all people on every continent and their history and achievements

    • @kkupsky6321
      @kkupsky6321 4 месяца назад +2

      Never heard of it. The virgin isles are just north of grimsby? Ohhh. Islands. I know. It’s sweet the French named a channel island after New Jersey.

    • @margaretmary-dj1ps
      @margaretmary-dj1ps 4 месяца назад

      Amen !

    • @penelopegreene
      @penelopegreene 3 месяца назад

      Say hi to Wilo Smith for us. He feels exactly the same way!

    • @jonathanwilliams1065
      @jonathanwilliams1065 3 месяца назад

      So are you British or American?

  • @eklektek5032
    @eklektek5032 4 месяца назад +15

    Their descendants are still around, except now they call them chismosos.

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead 3 месяца назад +3

      Jajaja.. 😆🤣

    • @xr2kid
      @xr2kid Месяц назад +1

      I'm screaming 😂😂😂😂

  • @auntkami
    @auntkami 4 месяца назад +25

    I feel like I need to slow down the playback speed and watch this at least eight more times to even begin to wrap my head around all this information. Wow! Thank you for preparing and sharing it!

  • @sizanogreen9900
    @sizanogreen9900 4 месяца назад +60

    Really interesting. I had heard of the Pochteca before but now I actually understand what they were about. Thanks for covering them:)

    • @palomapalacios6036
      @palomapalacios6036 4 месяца назад +10

      Same! I knew Pochteca were a merchant-class but I never knew why they were as revered as nobility and warriors until now. Thank you for shedding more light and context to this aspect of Mexica society. Can you do the same for more over ooked aspects of Mexica life and society like Pipiltin (nobles), artisans, farmers or hunters?

  • @madfx8058
    @madfx8058 3 месяца назад +5

    Growing up amongst Chicano Activist and seeing how the makeup of my community has become more indigenous over the past two decades (migrants who are Mixtec, Zapotec, Purepecha) its really interesting to learn this native history. I think Im really gonna dig this series!

  • @mandoandando8966
    @mandoandando8966 3 месяца назад +2

    These are the kind of mini documentaries that are necessary especially for those individuals wanting to know more about their roots.

  • @duck8dodgers
    @duck8dodgers 4 месяца назад +15

    Thank you for mentioning The Florentine Codex as your source for some of your illustrations for this piece in your description. The art in that book is amazing.

  • @Kittymancer78
    @Kittymancer78 4 месяца назад +7

    Thank you, thank you.
    At a time where the U.S. has managed to equate the word "Mexican" with the word "dirt", it's good to be reminded that that idea is not actually true.

  • @marieroberts5664
    @marieroberts5664 4 месяца назад +17

    Excellent work guys, keep these vids coming. I love Rogue History.

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 4 месяца назад +9

    Never knew about these people before! Fascinating

  • @DuizhangLu
    @DuizhangLu 3 месяца назад +3

    Fascinating parallels between pochteca and the Mongolian empires use of merchant spies

  • @mixiekins
    @mixiekins 4 месяца назад +30

    Ah, the Pochteca were among the wealthy and distinguished individuals which carried shields painted with feather mosaics. Many of the shields depicted in the codex shown in your video are thought to be the same kind, and the illustration shown at 5:25 is from one of the pages explaining the process. Feather painting was an extreme luxury, making use of the most prized plumage such as that from the Quetzals, worth more than gold. There are very few examples remaining today, the most famous being the coyote shield with flaming water (the symbol for war, as you mentioned) which is often mistaken as being a depiction of a dragon. The feather painting mosaics of that period continued to be practiced during the early colonial period (many conquistadors commissioned religious illustrations to send back to Europe) and is now only practiced by a handful of artisans. Around the 1500's it's thought that, due to overhunting of the birds causing scarcity of materials, the artisans were inspired to instead use an endemic grass, dyed in the zapotec method, to make their mosaics. The modern method, Popotillo, is theorized to have been inspired by Chinese traders that introduced a similar craft more like grass parquetry. Though, all of the history of the transition frrom feathers to the sporobolis wrightii grass is on shaky footing, as records from the period are very sparse, so take this with a grain of salt. At any rate, the art of that time was extremely unique and is critically endangered to this day. There hasn't even been a single book written on the subject of Popotillo, whereas there is one for the feather mosaics which is long since out of print but thankfully documents the construction, techniques, and materials.

  • @TheAmazingHuman
    @TheAmazingHuman 4 месяца назад +8

    Can we get an epic movie about this?! This is so interesting! Whoa... ❤❤❤ It's like a Roman historical epic with killer ninjas all rolled up in one!

  • @emen_98
    @emen_98 5 дней назад

    The lore of the Pochteca is MY Roman Empire, and they have been my favorite plot line/device in my alt history saga

  • @ponyote
    @ponyote 3 месяца назад +2

    Your pronunciation is so impeccable.

  • @metasamsara
    @metasamsara 4 месяца назад +6

    need more movies from their pov

  • @willmendoza8498
    @willmendoza8498 4 месяца назад +2

    These folks are fascinating. I feel like there should be at least a couple movies about them

  • @emperorsadrax7242
    @emperorsadrax7242 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for making a video on this, it really puts it into perspective how the Mexica used their resources at their disposal to gather intel and display power in the region.

  • @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369
    @stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 4 месяца назад +14

    Oh interesting
    A class of spies

    • @sizanogreen9900
      @sizanogreen9900 4 месяца назад +1

      spy-merchant-warriors. They also brought the luxuries for the rest of the elite.

  • @colinleat8309
    @colinleat8309 4 месяца назад +29

    Fascinating. I've always found the culture of the ancient people of the Americas interesting. Love these PBS channel's! More please! 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦🕊️

  • @user-if4nx2jn8r
    @user-if4nx2jn8r 4 месяца назад +5

    Very interesting, I've never heard of them before.

  • @Napkinatorz
    @Napkinatorz 3 месяца назад +1

    This is very interesting! Love learning pre-Columbian indigenous history

  • @prettypic444
    @prettypic444 3 месяца назад +1

    We need a full on movie about this!

  • @CDA129
    @CDA129 4 месяца назад +3

    This was very interesting. Things I had never heard before. Thank you for posting.

  • @dosmart
    @dosmart 4 месяца назад +2

    *takes notes for world building*

  • @I_dont_think_therefore...
    @I_dont_think_therefore... 4 месяца назад +10

    I liked this video. I think spies are cool, no matter from which culture. I would love to see an origin video on the Hashashim, aka assassins. They seem as mystical as Ninjas or the Knights Templar. Keep up the good work. 😊

  • @jakobraahauge7299
    @jakobraahauge7299 4 месяца назад +2

    That's just wonderfully insightful and at that even respectful! And potentially just as beautifully spoken as the first videos of "Journey Into The Microcosmos!" 😙 Lots of love from a new sub!

  • @Imperiused
    @Imperiused 4 месяца назад +3

    I love this series! Elite spies indeed.

  • @alex1112200
    @alex1112200 4 месяца назад +1

    Great Work!

  • @voluptuousvince6522
    @voluptuousvince6522 4 месяца назад +3

    Question, because this is endlessly fascinating to me - what are the sources for this account? Was all of this information gathered through native record keeping or oral tradition, or imperial observation from european colonists?
    I absolutely feel like because of the society and structure I was educated in, I have massive knowledge gaps when it comes to the native cultures of the americas and how we can trace their histories.
    The Aztec language is so fascinating to me, I'd kove to know if all this info was gathered through the study and eventual translation of their texts or otherwise.

    • @pottertheavenger1363
      @pottertheavenger1363 4 месяца назад +3

      Record keeping and conquistador chronicles. Mainly, friars made natives draw codices of their knowledge.

  • @GrandeSalvatore96
    @GrandeSalvatore96 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow, such a great and informative video on a niche topic. Would love to see more videos like this.

  • @NenetlAlt
    @NenetlAlt 4 месяца назад +1

    I loved this episode!

  • @windlessoriginals1150
    @windlessoriginals1150 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you

  • @maxdaly8185
    @maxdaly8185 4 месяца назад +1

    This was excellent.

  • @Chris-from-AZ
    @Chris-from-AZ 3 месяца назад

    Very great video

  • @Pottery4Life
    @Pottery4Life 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @rjstefani1
    @rjstefani1 4 месяца назад +1

    @Joel Cook, you're an awesome narrator.

  • @eacalvert
    @eacalvert 4 месяца назад +1

    Love this

  • @vengefulhero
    @vengefulhero 4 месяца назад +1

    I would like some more please.

  • @heraclesreborn
    @heraclesreborn 3 месяца назад

    Outstanding!!!

  • @sabrinasummers4814
    @sabrinasummers4814 4 месяца назад

    so cool

  • @anarey-oktay2683
    @anarey-oktay2683 4 месяца назад

    Good job with the names.

  • @mellissadalby1402
    @mellissadalby1402 4 месяца назад +4

    Mr. Joel, you sure do a good job pronouncing those screwy looking words that would take me a while to puzzle my way through them.

    • @georginaturner1237
      @georginaturner1237 4 месяца назад

      I was incredibly impressed at how well he managed ! 👏

    • @julioalberto2794
      @julioalberto2794 4 месяца назад

      ¡Pialli! ¿Amo titlatoa Nahuatl?

  • @landback1491
    @landback1491 4 месяца назад +12

    1:27 According to Statista site, there are ~450,000 active duty in the US Army, not including other services. That means the Aztec army was as big as the US Army today. And this is far, far larger than ANYTHING in Ancient Greece or European history in general (1100 AD). Yet, the Euro-centric history narratives focus Greek and Roman armies that pale in comparison. And Europeans call us (Turtle Islanders) primitive... 🙄 We won't be erased.

    • @joseph8762
      @joseph8762 3 месяца назад +2

      the mexica didnt have a standing army. most wars were fought in the winter when working men could mobilize and not worry about risking famine and mass starvation. also, a society does not need a highly organized standing army to not be primitive. our ancestors were cool and we dont need to compare them to europeans

  • @cerosis
    @cerosis 4 месяца назад +2

    ¡Viva Azteca! ¡Viva Nahual!

  • @icepick117
    @icepick117 4 месяца назад +4

    the link to the people's history of native america just links back to this video

    • @pbsorigins
      @pbsorigins  4 месяца назад +2

      Sorry about that. Fixed that, and here is the link: ruclips.net/video/dXJ4Ldy-hLQ/видео.html

  • @timothyrodriguez881
    @timothyrodriguez881 3 месяца назад +1

    More about the Aztecs please!?? Or mesoamerica

  • @TheRuanay
    @TheRuanay 4 месяца назад +1

    Joel Cook is the man!

  • @GajanaNigade
    @GajanaNigade 4 месяца назад

    Whoa... Immortal presenting history he probably lived through.

  • @RainFall2112
    @RainFall2112 3 месяца назад +1

    The more you learn about history, the more you learn that everyone was an oppressor and everyone took their turn.

  • @Zagar099
    @Zagar099 3 месяца назад

    Wish there were more and better quality graphics for this channel

  • @Kiraiko44
    @Kiraiko44 4 месяца назад +1

    One of the city-states that they tried to live under kicked them out because they flayed and sacrificed the daughter of their king when he tried to put her in charge of them lol kind of answers the question of why they didn't tend to be welcome for very long until they finally reached Atslan

    • @JuanSilva-ym9pf
      @JuanSilva-ym9pf 4 месяца назад +2

      The Tepanecs were one of the groups that made vassals out of the Mexica and forced them to fight as mercenaries for their empire. I’d say they got their revenge before being driven into Lake Texcoco. Even then, the Tepanecs assassinated Chimalpopoca, leading to war with the Mexica and the Tepanecs’ ultimate downfall.

    • @joseph8762
      @joseph8762 3 месяца назад

      no, that was done entirely as a show of force against the tepanecs who relegated the mexica to living in an inhospitable portion of land, and for using them as mercenaries in a highly unbalanced way

  • @acarrot589
    @acarrot589 3 месяца назад

    Thanks, really interesting. Im wondering, the part of the Aztec origins is historical or legendary ?

  • @kingmj87
    @kingmj87 3 месяца назад

    I can’t believe private commercial entities would sell their customers’ data to the state like that

  • @lucienarcos-palma3834
    @lucienarcos-palma3834 29 дней назад +1

    How often do you think about the aztec empire ?

    • @emen_98
      @emen_98 5 дней назад +1

      I think about mesoamerica as a whole SEVERAL times a day

  • @dimimegesis
    @dimimegesis 3 месяца назад

    this would make a great assassin's creed game

  • @MxIzmir
    @MxIzmir 4 месяца назад

    Totally stealing this for d&d

  • @Ollerismo
    @Ollerismo 3 месяца назад +1

    The first image looks more like Machu Pichu… inca empire…

  • @fernandoalvarez9613
    @fernandoalvarez9613 3 месяца назад +1

    so Pochteca were basically Mexica Ninjas

  • @krealyesitisbeta5642
    @krealyesitisbeta5642 4 месяца назад +1

    4:27 Usopp is real

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 3 месяца назад

    What happened to danielle?

  • @RaulHernandez-li8po
    @RaulHernandez-li8po 3 месяца назад +1

    Atlachinolli is more than war, those who know, know.

  • @kateroca8297
    @kateroca8297 4 месяца назад +2

    My Roman Empire is going to be the Aztec Empire

  • @kevincronk7981
    @kevincronk7981 3 месяца назад +1

    Whoah Joel over here just pronouncing these indigenous mesoamerican words like it's the easiest thing he's ever done. At least some of them, I've never heard Tenochtitlan pronounced rhat way, but maybe I've just always mispronounced it.

  • @nobodysanything2330
    @nobodysanything2330 4 месяца назад

    🇲🇽

  • @eduadelarosa
    @eduadelarosa 4 месяца назад

    Amazing info, but the graphics used resemble more the Andes region than Mesoamerica.

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 4 месяца назад +1

  • @mitzilinn
    @mitzilinn 4 месяца назад

    They did go to southamerica

    • @joseph8762
      @joseph8762 3 месяца назад +1

      the closest they ever got was nicaragua, and that only happened because the spanish used natives to fight in their wars of conquest

  • @user-jl8td7tb9y
    @user-jl8td7tb9y 4 месяца назад

    Ah yes the Pochteca, merchant Ppies😂 not including the intro it's the name of the second chapter.

  • @b43xoit
    @b43xoit 4 месяца назад +1

    Adapting local dialects, or adopting local dialects? Adapting them to what?

  • @user-wb8iu1hl6i
    @user-wb8iu1hl6i 3 месяца назад

    Basically Aztec shinobi

  • @LITMasonEdits
    @LITMasonEdits 4 месяца назад +1

    im seeing some paralells with jewish communities being cast as greedy because religious laws meant they where the only ones around allowed to lend money

  • @ksec27
    @ksec27 4 месяца назад

    Adopting local dialects

  • @Hudheifah
    @Hudheifah 4 месяца назад +1

    This gives off narco vibes

  • @martinrios4748
    @martinrios4748 3 месяца назад +1

    Aztecs came to aztlan, once they settled they became mexica. You got it backwards. 😅

    • @el5880
      @el5880 3 месяца назад +1

      No you do

  • @Roman.Leave.Me.2.My.Circles
    @Roman.Leave.Me.2.My.Circles 3 месяца назад

    The Jew is universal.

  • @prsimoibn2710
    @prsimoibn2710 3 месяца назад +1

    This is fascinating, unfortunately the Europeans burned all these civilisations down

  • @netroy
    @netroy 3 месяца назад +2

    It's a shame how much global cultural diversity and heritage got lost to colonialism, and cultural hegemony 😢

    • @P71ScrewHead
      @P71ScrewHead 3 месяца назад +1

      I agree, just look at how much USA destroyed in Iraq 🇮🇶 n Syria 🇸🇾.. 😢

    • @panterauntera77771
      @panterauntera77771 3 месяца назад

      skill issue

  • @arenasnefi
    @arenasnefi 4 месяца назад +1

    Central and South America? Shouldn’t it be North and Central America?

  • @joseph8762
    @joseph8762 3 месяца назад

    the pronunciations…😕

  • @Neldonax
    @Neldonax 3 месяца назад +1

    poch-TE-ca on god can any american get it right for ONCE? Seriously, it's not that hard, don't pretend to be correct by saying something even more wrong.

  • @friedfish69
    @friedfish69 3 месяца назад

    Not one word about sources. Not showing much respect for you listeners' curiosity.

  • @OptimisticSturmtruppen
    @OptimisticSturmtruppen 3 месяца назад

    They didn't build the empire

  • @sabastianlove1286
    @sabastianlove1286 4 месяца назад +1

    More from this presenter, please.

  • @lotslove2give
    @lotslove2give 3 месяца назад

    Using an Obama phone. This is djvicmando13. Great looking out. I'm Chicano and didn't know much of this. Thnx!

  • @kiaraditmasa
    @kiaraditmasa 3 месяца назад +1

    Finally history that is not centered in European myth and narcissism

  • @petermcaleer14
    @petermcaleer14 3 месяца назад

    Excellent content… if not a bit “SEP Secundaria” but nvm… 😅 dale gas ⛽️ mi Charolastras! 🦾😎🤌