Why One Historic Indian Boarding School is Now...Good?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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Why do so many Americans question Native’s existence? Why do 27 states exclude Native American history in K-12 schools? And what is up with all the Native American Mascots? This episode explores the dark legacy of Indian boardings, the failures of modern education, and the trauma, misconceptions, and racism endured by Native Americans as a result.
NOTE: A previous version of this video cited a survey statistic which could not be corroborated. The video has been updated to remove the mention.
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My mom was born on the Pine Ridge reservation in the 50s. Ok, she's my step mother but in reality she is my MOTHER and she kept me even after the divorce... So did her whole family, even though I was just this little white kid they kept me and loved me. I'm beyond proud to say my mother and sisters and aunties and uncle are Oglala Sioux and that these are the humans that taught me how to be a human.
Europeans not only committed a tragedy against all native nations but also against themselves - just imagine what kind of world we could be living in had these cultures been learned, understood, allowed to flourish and become part and parcel of today's culture...
Great story... Also, how did you get the hyperlink search for Oglala Sioux?
It would make my posts so much shorter if people could just search the words I type.
Lastly, your words are so true. The Latin alphabet is pretty universal only because Rome conquered the future colonists of the world. The Arabic numeric system is so universal because money good and Roman number system was bad... And Arabs/greater Muslim community controlled the trade route that linked Western Europe to Eastern Asia... Again money good.
How much better would the world be if we simply allowed the best ideas to dominate instead of the ideas of the people with the greatest appetite for violence and/or money.
This is a very simple situation where the only thing to do is to calm down and be normal. For today, the only education we need is to learn that when people say "Americans are not happy about their government", that The Act Of Saying That is a war deterrent (on the scale of a nuclear-capable ICBM which can pass through any defense system). As long as Native Americans stop "believing" that they're the only ones with any culture/tradition/history/etc, then all of the people who have been misinformed will go after the source of the misinformation (which is a group of people in the USA), unless they prevent me from continuing to inform you about heuristic techniques.
I mean, to be honest, kids are monitored for these things everywhere. However, we simply need to develop some refinement in the way that we judge kids [by judging the way in which each child is rebellious]. This is the first step toward allowing communities to exist where one's success correlates more directly with how severely one abuses his or her children than any other factor.
Just because some 1st-generation immigrants who've arrived in the US are abusing their kids and getting away with it doesn't mean that this is specific to any country. This is why, if for no other reason, the families who arrived in America on the first "waves" of immigration from "The Old World" are designated with merit around the world: because the newer immigrants are worse (and if they WEREN'T WORSE, then they would be experiencing RAPID "upward mobility", a side effect of which is Getting VERY WEALTHY VERY QUICKLY). In the past, things were better: good people could walk around saying, "Some DO Say the existence of a 'middle class' is itself a meritable ideal for one to have". Nowadays, it's a little rougher because we are CHOOSING families based on their past. That's all. Don't say you weren't warned.
Merely Being Disciplined By Members Of "One's Own Ethnicity" (as "any youth" is) DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY CLUES about ANY HISTORY/narrative in which ANY "culture" or group is doing ANYTHING.
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It's so weird how americans believe heritage is through blood and not culture...
Yes! What this nation could have been if willing to learn from native people.
What a sad tragedy.
I was living in Lawrence KS when Haskell made the transition from a junior college to a university. One contributing factor to its "low rankings" may be it initially only offered 4 year degrees in a few education and agricultural programs. The rankings favor schools with robust arts and sciences programs, and agricultural sciences are sometimes treated unfairly as a second class science.
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An interesting point…especially the devaluation of land-based knowledge.
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Lfk is such a unique place
I want to see one about Native American literature.
I feel like you could solve so many problems by paying modern Native Americans to make art pieces using traditional techniques for museums and then properly labeling them as such and giving credit to the individual who made each piece as well as that person's heritage. Because then people would still have a way of seeing this important part of American culture, but it would be grounded in the here and now. It would literally say, "We're still here" to anyone who views it.
Furthermore, it wouldn't be stolen. It would be bought from the people who made it and they would get to choose the content and could make it something that they are comfortable sharing with people rather than something sacred or private.
I'm not Native American, but I absolutely support their artifacts being repatriated. At the same time, I think it would be sad if the main way your average white American interacted with Native American culture was through whitewashed textbooks. We should put the ability to share their history and their culture in the hands of the people who created it.
Burke Museum in Seattle does this to a certain extent. Their exhibition of Native American culture prominently features modern Native American artwork done with traditional techniques and even showcases the history of what the modern artwork replaced. They even have a cafe featuring Native American inspired cuisine.
That would cause a disruption in a big way. We can't just "up and say that". I mean, sure, it's A COHERENT MESSAGE, but it's a little much. You're trying to just give a bunch of money to some weirdos who aren't really part of their community, rather than to try to "break the ice" with THEM. You're just giving oppportunistic weirdos a chance to become overpowered and put pressure DIRECTLY on Their Way Of Life. I don't know if I really "LIKE" them THAT MUCH, but you're clearly beefing with them Way More than me.
This is what I told them:
This is a very simple situation where the only thing to do is to calm down and be normal. For today, the only education we need is to learn that when people say "Americans are not happy about their government", that The Act Of Saying That is a war deterrent (on the scale of a nuclear-capable ICBM which can pass through any defense system). As long as Native Americans stop "believing" that they're the only ones with any culture/tradition/history/etc, then all of the people who have been misinformed will go after the source of the misinformation (which is a group of people in the USA), unless they prevent me from continuing to inform you about heuristic techniques.
I mean, to be honest, kids are monitored for these things everywhere. However, we simply need to develop some refinement in the way that we judge kids [by judging the way in which each child is rebellious]. This is the first step toward allowing communities to exist where one's success correlates more directly with how severely one abuses his or her children than any other factor.
Just because some 1st-generation immigrants who've arrived in the US are abusing their kids and getting away with it doesn't mean that this is specific to any country. This is why, if for no other reason, the families who arrived in America on the first "waves" of immigration from "The Old World" are designated with merit around the world: because the newer immigrants are worse (and if they WEREN'T WORSE, then they would be experiencing RAPID "upward mobility", a side effect of which is Getting VERY WEALTHY VERY QUICKLY). In the past, things were better: good people could walk around saying, "Some DO Say the existence of a 'middle class' is itself a meritable ideal for one to have". Nowadays, it's a little rougher because we are CHOOSING families based on their past. That's all. Don't say you weren't warned.
Merely Being Disciplined By Members Of "One's Own Ethnicity" (as "any youth" is) DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY CLUES about ANY HISTORY/narrative in which ANY "culture" or group is doing ANYTHING.
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Woof. I'm going to have to thank my parents for raising me in college-town hippy communities where indigenous people and minorities regularly celebrate their cultures, like the Native Nations Festival, Celtic Festival, Nikkei Matsuri, and the First Peoples Festival.
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Years ago, I worked with AMAZING Haskell University students on sustainable community development projects cross-culturally in Mexico. Lifelong friends who have helped me uncover my Indigenous Mexican roots allowed my native pride to flourish further.
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I'm sorry did he say 40% of people don't know Native people still exist???? How tf 💀
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This is true. My friend used to live in NY and had no idea Native people like me still existed. She was baffled after moving to Lawrence...
The statistic was removed from the video because it couldn't be corroborated (in the description for the video).
Most Natives live in remote areas in places most Americans don't care about. Same with Black Appalachian they're actually a lot of them and they are essential to the development of Appalachian culture particularly linguistic but people think everyone in Appalachia is white
@@anactualtree652 that's so sad to hear as someone with Cayuga ancestry. I grew up in Eastern WA on Yakama land and have never been to NY sadly, so idk how it is over there right now...
I'm so curious about this topic. The episodes of Reservation Dogs about the boarding schools were so powerful.
Yeah that's a gross way to put it.
@@lowwastehighmelaninsorry but whats gross about expressing curiosity about this? Curiosity is a good thing. More people need to be curious about the crimes that the United States helped commit. Thats what it takes to be educated about these topics especially when they arent widely taught
thank you @@ktk44man for encouraging me to express curiosity, I want to help uplift Indigenous people's causes by learning from Indigenous people. How odd that wanting to learn more about Indigenous issues is considered gross by some people.
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Current Haskell Indian nations university student here..... I love the way they included the history of a boarding school survivor. we have generations and generations of families that have came from this school, parents even meeting here.
Haskell Indian Nations University students have a great program to take some other courses offer at neighboring Kansas University in Lawrence. And KU students also have opportunity to take courses at Haskell that aren't offered at KU.
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I am not native american. I support the return of artifacts and the dead that are being paraded about as trophies as if they are from a long dead burried peoples back to where those people still live or whatever they wish done. I wouldl ike some exhibits to remain, or t obe created to educate but at the same time you are correct in that there is this perception and portrayal that native peoples are culturally if not ethnically... dead.
'We' (the US government) broke faith and treaty wit hthe native peoples time and time again. There needs to be a redress. This isn't 'Hey everyone who is on paper native american gets money' that is an empty gesture that does nothing but give conservitives a club to beat people with. There needs to be systimic change so that natives are given a fair seat at the table so their voice is heard where and how it matters most.
We've taken too much already, and even giving (what i consider an impossibility given the pushback) full voting rights, or enlarging and assisting in making the reservations more.... None of that will undo what has been done, but at this point doing more than just empty hand wringing would be nice.
"We The People' .... Well, you guys were here first. You are part of that 'We' and the rest of us should acknowledge that.
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Listening the these Indigenous Students’ Stories is heartwrenching.
I worked with Sherman Indian High School in Southern California last semester as an intern. Really eye opening experience in a place with an obviously very complicated history. I loved the students there!
I used to play Sherman in basketball! I'm from Cahuilla 🙌
I have two cousins from Pine Ridge rez who attend there now and many family members who have graduated from Haskell.
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My family went to some of the boarding schools in Wisconsin: Hayward Indian Boarding School (Lac Courte Oreilles), St. Mary's Indian Boarding School (Bad River), and Lac du Flambeau Government Boarding School. Two of them closed after the Great Depression, but the latter, Lac du Flambeau, at least rebranded with government funding from the BIA in 1975 for cultural and language restoration (I even remember going to my first Ojibwe language classes out there with the AODA program as a young one.) Now, I teach at one of the handful of Indigenous Alternative Education schools in the Nation, started by AIM, making sure the language is taught to our young ones.
Watching with tears in my eyes. My grandma went to one of the old style boarding schools. It was so terrible for her that I can’t even express it coherently. Thanks for shedding a light on this.
More please!!! These are the truth & that is what everyone needs now…. Actuality. The only way to atone for mistakes is to fully admit them imo.
I'm so glad you posted this video. A lot of us have heard of the boarding schools but we might not know all the details, or the larger context. Content like this probably helps more than you know.
Sherman Indian High School, which was a historical Native American boarding school, has a native mascot as well.
I was thinking about Sherman also. I was hoping this video would explain how boarding schools went from bad to good. It didn't. He just said Haskell was bad and now it's good. Somewhere along the line, people made some choices to change. That's where the important history lies, where we make choices to change for the better.
@tomwoods3026 I was hoping for an explanation of when they changed bc I heard from others how they were bad, but surprised, in the 20ish years, natives go to them voluntary now.
Went to the Autry Museum's exhibit on Sherman Indian School a few months ago. It was created in conjunction with the current school administration and it's graduates and it's amazingly informative (I believe it'll be there until May if anyone coming to LA wants to check it out)
the number of times my jaw dropped watching this equals how many tabs i opened. the work tai and co. produces is remarkable. i love learning here ❤❤❤
Thank you to making this series of videos. They are well done.
I have gone to a museum that has Native American artifacts displayed (I assume proudly) by the tribe on their land. Puget Sound area I think, but don't quote me on that. It was absolutely fascinating to learn about their past. It was also very refreshing and heartbreaking to learn how they have been treated throughout colonization and moder times. I went to the history museum in New York and just couldn't see it as anything besides a monument to colonialism and greed and discrimination.
Yes, I want to learn about Native Americans and their culture but I want to learn it from them, on their terms. Not from a society that has literally tried to make them go extinct.
this hurts too much for me to watch. Keep demanding the US compliance with treaties. Love to you all x
I used to know a Haskell TA, when I was a student at the University of Kansas. I was glad to see them attain their goal of becoming a 4 year college. He’s probably a professor by now.
EXCUSE ME a cemetery for the school... dang
It's going to be a really hard watch if you look into this further, but for the boarding schools in both the US and Canada, this was very common. Countless kids died at these schools and countless parents have no idea where there kids were buried. I believe there's been efforts to repatriate the remains of some of these kids in their ancestral lands with traditional burial rights.
@@carolynr4084Yeah the cemeteries often weren't marked so people are only starting to become aware they are even there at all
Not to mention the unmarked hundreds that were laid to rest in the surrounding wetlands to the South.
Yes and I was a student at Haskell in the late 1980s. We saw the cemetery at the edge of campus but when we asked about it, the administrators told us that it was just a symbolic memorial for the students who had died there since the 1890s when it was a boarding school. So dven the Native admins lied to cover up the problems. Haskell has a big investigation ongoing under the BIA/Bureau o Indian Education because of the SA that have happened on campus.
iz got 4 years attended BHSC in the 79;s for native studies minor, social sciences major not completed. mom taught Lakota Oral lititure and ended with phd education. set up curriculums for school districts. she helped get the old women stories into text from tape. i 2 semester of Lakota language, 1 course in minor just on Indian Education history. books by authors helped in studes used.ie Eredoes.
My great-grandma and her siblings all went to Genoa Indian boarding school, and her father went to Haskell. I have no idea what their experiences were, the only thing I could find were newspaper articles of my great-great-grandfather helping give some students a proper burial.
I wish I could listen to their stories. I’ll never stop trying to know what they went through, positive or otherwise.
Thank you for teaching me what my school wouldn’t.
keep 'em coming!
this world needs more of the wisdom that is *embedded* in native american culture.
more. than. ever.
Great short video it was informative and we'll-presented. It made me cry a little bit too.
It's interesting that the Commanders (Redskins) who were named to honor the four Native American players and designed their logo with a group from the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation eventually accepted the winds of change.
The word itself was deemed insulting. Linguistic changes since that time, meant using that word no longer seemed like a way to honor anyone. A lot of people did argue for keeping the logo for that reason, but the counterargument that it wasn't representing the *local* native people carried the day (as it should). "Commanders" is a name that represents what the city has become, while being inclusive of it's history too. It's a much better name for a sports team in DC overall.
Thank you for sharing your story, Ramona Klein! And, thank you Tai Leclaire for putting this together.
I can't imagine reliving these memories, but I truly learn so much and I truly appreciate both of you sharing your knowledge with us. 🧡🧡🧡
Oh hey, I used to pass Haskell all the time when I was living in Lawrence to go to KU!
Not often you hear references to ... much of anything in Kansas really
Thanks for this interview with Dr. Klein and sharing this history.
thank you for sharing this! My university is one of those school that is refusing to return artifacts and Native remains to their respective tribes, but at the same time we have strong Native representation on campus due to the Native American Student Union. They just had their 55th annual powwow this year which I went to! While we may have a strong Native student group and studies program there are still A LOT of classes/departments that have a ton of decolonization to work through.
This is my hometown, born and raised. Haskell is a great school, deep history and it's not appreciated enough. The wetlands is under threat until this very day, those are sacred lands that shouldn't be touched. I talk about the school as much as I can over the other university. And I didn't go to either schools but I understand it's important to appreciate the native land and elders.
My dad’s parents and my mom’s grandmother all went to boarding schools. I saw the different ways in which the schools affected the generations to come. My dad ended up being a very, very abusive and traumatized person, while my mom grew up with the love of her culture. I still live with the trauma of what happened to my VERY close relatives. I’m 21 and this horrific part of Indigenous history STILL effect generations and still might effect the next generations to come. It’s crazy the amount of people I meet that still have NO CLUE the atrocities our ancestors went through and most of us go through today. Yakoke to Dr. Klein for sharing her story and sharing her wisdom and warmth
"Continue to laugh." Brilliant. Just brillant.
I want to learn more about real American History and culture. Native pride.
These were not "boarding schools," they were internment centers. For children. A disgraceful portion of Euro-American history. We must do better.
While living in Lawrence KS, I greatly enjoyed the big powwow and art fair every August. It showcased amazing dancers, music, and arts. It shared native talents with the community.
I grew up in Alaska. I’m not native but I grew up learning about the culture…it only did good things for me. Everyone should learn about the native culture of where they live.
Thank you for posting this. I very much want to learn more about all of the cultures that the US has tried to erase. I really wish that I could afford to watch this program on PBS. Maybe one day.
this series is 🔥
Still begging Slate to issue a correction on a video where the journalist said we don't exist; she's Asian it was horrifying because it felt extra gross coming from someone nonwhite.
northeast asians are white af bro i mean they pale n vm the cultural shit
Which video are you referring to?
Really great video! But I would have liked for you to have interviewed any staff at Haskell?
Thank you!
Love from Lawrence, Kansas!
Hey I went to college on Lawrence! It always blew my mind how little intermingling there was between Haskell and KU students, I met more Haskell students through Lawrence townies than I ever did hanging out with KU classmates.
Haskell has a better connection to the Lawrence community than KU though, they host art festivals and sponsor several community events throughout the year. Stuff directed to local families and children. It's a nice campus too, I used to drive delivery to it.
Thankyou for this. I'm in Australia, and I sense echoes in the story of our First Nation Peoples, to those of the Americas. I wish we had a similar resource as you've made for Australia's First People's culture, and the impact of white colonisers, historical and ongoing.
More please
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This DNA folding is copied during cell duplication and even from parent to child.
Since stress, trauma, has been shown to change the epigenetics of your body, your cells.
There are studies theorising how in this way parents pass on their endured stress and the effect it causes on them, onto their children.
Utterly astonishing. Looking back at my own education I do see that this is true, and I can only think that it was my own imagination that made the Native Americans "real" - it can't have been anything in the standard educational curriculum. I grew up in western Texas, and you can bet there were plenty of misrepresentations of Native Americans. Even the attempts at positive images were flat out wrong, as I've learned now.
And yet I also vividly remember the day that an actual Navajo woman came to the school and taught us how to card wool, and told us stories. I remember when someone came and read "Arrow of the Sun" to us (a children's book based on Hopi legend, I think). I don't know the provenance of that story, or the author, or anything: but I remember VERY well how powerful the story felt to me, and how much I wanted to believe that the culture, the people, were real and alive and still in the world. I was very drawn to the romanticized versions of Native Americans.
The more I learn nowadays, the more respect and love I feel for all of these tribes. I haven't the faintest notion what to do to make things right.
So I will listen, and try to do what I can to make sure EVERYONE hears these stories and these truths.
Thank you for providing this information. So many people in USA do not know the history of native americans. Im Modoc, and when i tell people my tribes name they are so confused. Becuz sadly majority of people dont know natives outside of the key ones mention in history books (navajo, sioux, etc), let alone a west coast native. I wish people understood that natives are still here and tribes have had to indure for many 100 of yrs just to be allowed to live on their ancestors land and speak our language.
THE MOST racist word I know is ASSIMILATION . full stop .
WHY is anyone "expected" to become something that they are not? WHY should anyone give up their culture, language, ideals, faith and so much more, ONLY to STILL NEVER measure up to an invisible criteria? What right does any person have to EXPECT anyone to ASSIMILATE?
I was raised white. My skin is "white". And yet, I NEVER fit in, no matter how much I wanted to.
As it turns out, my paternal grandmother kept a secret. She was Native American. She was ashamed of this. She had 3 sisters that I never knew because SHE didn't want us to know her secret. HER SHAME denied me my heritage. I cannot forget that …
I have family out there that I'll never know.
You might try taking a DNA test from Ancestry or one of the other companies that offer them. You could possibly find unknown relatives that way. There may also be records that could help you do research. Good luck to you.
@@debbiej.2168 I wish I could afford DNA testing. I never realized just how "fixed" a fixed income was until now!
@@SpecialSP know what you mean.
My parents drove by Haskell every few weeks to buy groceries at Checkers , my whole childhood. Haskell always drew my attention.
Thank you
I actually grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, where Haskell is located. I knew it was a Native American school, but I didn't know it's history. The fact that I didn't kinda shocks me now, because the public schools in that town make a huge deal about teaching the local colonizers history, but this was never mentioned. Not surprised, but it hurts my heart. Now I'm sitting here thinking about how Langston Hues was sitting in my elementary school when it was still segregated and little native children being held just across town. Did they know the other existed? If Langston Hues had known, would that have influenced his poetry? I knew my home town was bathed in blood in it's earlier days, but I never knew this side.
I’m glad that I’ve grown up, learned more, been exposed to contrasting historical framing outside of the school system and popular enforced culture, and have enough balanced admiration for American Civilization that I now realize civilizing other peoples to a better culture is in fact awesome. Sure, the concept is somewhat “normal” throughout all of human history, unlike the more numerous accounts and non-accounts of people groups being wiped off the face of the Earth instead, but still unique. Nobody actually thinks it’s not. Historically that includes various tribes and tribal nations as well when it came to their neighbors who simply were not as good as them for any number of reasons. Conquest by another does not necessarily mean the other was better in all aspects, but sometimes that can indeed be the case, hence the reason they could have won out in the first place, but then also build upon such a conquest to something or continue something more long-term. Sometimes in the form of one’s group, a culture, or a civilization.
Today, I approve of both America and Canada’s old historic stated missions in terms of bringing a better and more beneficial civilization to other peoples. Historically and today, I will simply debate the pros and cons of various methods to go about doing so. While also simultaneously acknowledging that the concerns for doing so are based and inherent to the ethics of our Christian Civilization in the first place.
I would like to find a synchronizing balance that takes as much specific tribal Indian culture, values, and aesthetics as much as possible, and fuse it to American civilization! Where it is not compatible, it can be remembered, but not practiced and instead dropped. The history should be known in full. Various American cultures have always existed within the country, it must simply also be united by common American Civilization overall.
Boarding schools having abuse incidents are not unique to Indian boarding schools, and I’m tired of that important caveat never being mentioned.
Disease and subsequent fatalities, not only in boarding schools and for children, but in general was atrocious up into the late 19th and middle 20th centuries. The vast majority of the population of various native tribes and nations in the Western hemisphere didn’t disappear due to disease because they were all crowded together and boarding schools before such a thing was even being implemented. This issue was not unique to Indian children boarding schools.
Epigenetics
If you want to keep advocating for the erasure of iconic, valued, beloved, and or fun Indian images across American and Canadian pop culture and life in general, that’s fine. I appreciate it and would’ve appreciated others being made in the future, perhaps even more people liking. But if you’re pushing for more erasure, I won’t really get up in arms about it.
Even the people claiming to be preserving their culture live and take for granted beliefs in very “western,” or more accurately, American and Canadian Civilization values and material goods.
Nobody’s gonna get educated by watching this PBS series. To be fair that’s most of PBS in general.
My parents both went to KU and I've been to Lawrence numerous times, so yes I know Haskell
I loved Haskell, just didn’t like the mascot. It use to be a buffalo looking upward, but then changed to an Indian head. I will not wear anything with that mascot. It’s hard enough living in mainstream with stereotypical perspectives on natives. So I won’t encourage it. But I do love Haskell! Onward Haskell!!
Am I missing something? I don't see the 'last episode' about how natives used to educate there children. Genuinely want to learn and frustrated that the Playlist seems to be missing parts I also cannot find in general content
When I was in high school (public hs in Florida) we learned a little about Native Americans, including a fee by name such as Chief Osceola. However, it was never as extensive as learning the rest of US history.
Yeah, I've heard of Haskell University. I live five minutes away from it, after all. :)
My ex wives grandfather and grandmother were taken off the plains of Oaklahoma at the age of about 3 years old. Their own parent were killed by the US Calvary. This was about 1906 . They both ran away at the age of 15 and made it to California. The family homestead in California is still standing and they had a family that did well and had many grandkids of all mixed races. My children are descendants of people who went through the schools after loosing their parents to massacre. And now these grandkids hunt, fish, farm and go to pow wows too.
Another unfortunate product of boarding school is that there is a lot of indigenous people around today that have no idea they're indigenous because they were raised to not be
I'm curious for your thoughts on UIUC's Chief Illiniwek. At the time of his removal as mascot, the thought was that the representation was disrespectful to tribes, even though they had made sure to honor the legacy with respect and not treat that history cartoonishly. Natives I knew took it as a sign of Indigenous erasure to make for white comfort in a SJ sort of way. A "liberals gone wrong" episode, if you will.
You should bring this full circle and discuss indigenous Mexicans or the Incan equivalent...(Peru? Were they ever in Brazil...why don't I know this?!)
from the title, my immediate reaction was "I'm sure India has tons of good boarding schools"
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I remember learning about the kidnappings and forced boarding schools in an "Indian Law" course in law school in the early 90s. I was dumbfounded. I wanted to scream and broadcast this information to everyone I knew and I have when ever possible. That class was the first time I had ever thought of Native history as a history of American genocide bc we were never exposed to that idea. I knew of individual battles and killings but the dots were never connected to portray it as true genocide. And also that Natives are NOT just historic and are continuing to work to rebound from that genocide. It's embarrassing and shameful how much history has been buried of Natives and Blacks. I am really dedicated to learning as much as I can possible consume now and for the future.
Excuse me Tai, but as a (white) Australian, I was always taught to refer to the original/first people of a land as either 'indigenous-[insert country here]', 'first nations people' or 'native-[insert country here]'. I don't wish to be ignorantly offensive, so I'm here asking for clarification.
You very specifically use the word 'Indian' to refer to the collection of tribes that first settled the land that is now the US, and I remember you saying that it had to do with 'Indian' being a legal term with regards to the many Treaties and Reservations. Can you (or another commenter) please elaborate? Which names should I avoid, and which names would it be appropriate for an outsider to use?
It's like a little reminder of white man's ignorance, because they're so racist they called the natives "indian".
It's mocking this racism by embracing the term.
That's what I heard might be wrong/partial answer
THANK YOU for bringing up the KC Chiefs. I can't stand watching them win year after year with their ridiculous chant. People forced the Redskins and Indians to change, but everyone turns a blind eye to the team with Mahomes, Kelce, and Taylor Swift.
I think one major factor is population and viewing in popular culture. A majority of native people live in a few states. States that also have very low population amounts so many people in America just won’t interact with native people a lot. Popular culture and showing native faces and stories is a great way of countering things like with shows like reservation dogs on Hulu made by native people stating native actors as real characters
Re the statistic at 2:20 ish…. It such an egregious statistic that I had to look it up. I’m not able to find any record of that statistic actually being in that study’s report. Just a news article mentioning it…. Also seems to be a poor phrasing as it is asking 2 questions at once. 1. Do native Americans still exist and 2. are they discriminated against. i wouldn't consider this as a credible statistic
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So what do you folks think of Red Cloud Indian School (besides the buried remains debate😬)?
2:16 I noticed this at 9 years old in history class (I'm white) and have been pissed off about it ever since.
Not Canadian or American, but when I learned the story behind the Day for Truth and Reconciliation in Canada I felt so wtf, I don't have another way to say it
KU, which is in the same city as Haskell, still has the remains of native people.
The English celts were slatered and forced to assimilate into the Roman empire and then they forget about that history for hundreds of years then comes over to a foreign lands and conquer it and try to destroy the other culture. I didn’t learn of residency schools until I took an anthropology class and then I did a whole apa research paper on it because I was so heartbroken and filled with anger.
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This is an interesting topic to consider, partially because of the fact that, on my grandmother's side, and by her own admission, we have Cherokee blood. I don't usually bring it up, because iirc, people usually just claim Cherokee by default even if they're lying. But the topic of this video has just made me wonder; my grandmother wasn't the type to lie, not about things like this. She was a woman who was very proud of who she was, and this usually manifested in pride for our African American history, but she would occasionally bring this up as well. And after hearing the Professor speak, it just makes me wonder what her live and the lives of my immediate great grandparents would have been like if they were closer to their native american side.
The things white people take from you, it sucks that it can go as far reaching as inside your own genetics and soul.
Those university rankings don't really mean anything. The most used ones were specifically designed to make Harvard look good. It's easy to stay on top of a ranking, if you can make the rules.
I remember when the fighting souix got changed to the fighting hawks here in North Dakota and I was like I’ll never say fighting hawks and would especially say fighting souix around natives because I thought I was some sort of rebel but all I was was a racist.
I really desperately hope they're teaching about boarding schools nowadays. When I was being homeschooled in the 90s by my conservative mom I obviously had most of ACTUAL history kept from me or coated in a thick layer of propaganda. But I dont think any of my friends learned about this either. I've had to go back and learn about all this as an adult and I'm really grateful there are people willing to educate about it, but I'm just so put off and disappointed that mainstream education sweeps so much of history under the rug. I think if more people talked about not just the reality of how indigenous people have been oppressed, but how they have an entire completely valid system of values that we just decided didn't matter (laughable that white people thought that was even our call to begin with), maybe they would be a little less uncomfy with things like the land back movement or pipeline protests.
My father was made to be a shame of being Indian. As a result, myself and my siblings didn't know we were Seneca much less decedents of Cornplanter. Today my father is proud to be Seneca however, he does regret that my brothers and sisters and I had to learn late in life of who we really are.
Which brings up another subject. The many Indians who were not raised on the Rez. I have cousins that grew up in the Bronx, some in the Carolinas. And how much of this was by design of the U.S. government to "assimilate" the Indians?
Seriously: The athletic teams for Red Mesa High School in Red Mesa, Arizona, are known as the Redskins.
Meanwhile we have people trying to keep indigenous people from crossing our borders. It's sickening
I live in lawrence!
40%?!?!
why are people so cruel
Poor children 🥹so sad
“And when they think that they'd changed me
Cut my hair to meet their needs
Will they think I'm white or Indian
Quarter blood or just half breed
Let me tell you Mr. teacher
When you say you'll make me right
In five hundred years of fighting
Not one Indian turned white” -Drums by Johnny Cash
when i was a kid i get to meat Ironized Cody i have always had a love for the native Americans i have heard of them taking the kids away but not not much i was homeschooled so i learned a lot more about native Americans then most people. who every said you cant change history never saw public school history im part German i asked a 12 what he was learning in school he told me about the great German leader hitler i educated him on the horror that man did scary what they are teaching kids in school these days
Well there is one notorious offensive mascot that I had an idea that no one really took seriously why doesn't NFL team the Redskins keep the name Redskins but change the mascot and become the red skin potatoes. I'm actually quite serious about that because it wouldn't be any worse than the Green Bay meat Packers. I know of several mascots that when you hear them it's almost like how is that supposed to be tough. My local high school's mascot is the railroader. And my mom's high School mascot was the Dutchman. So telling someone hey your mascot should just be a redskin potato shouldn't be that crazy and you can certainly make a potato look tough just have eyes growing out all over the place in a monstrous way. Besides if someone wanted a tough mascot then why doesn't someone use one of the most dangerous, most violent living beings on Earth-- a disease. I've always said why doesn't anybody use a disease as a mascot at least somebody in Atlanta should have Ebola as a mascot.
The boarding schools stories sound depressingly similar to stolen generations in Australia. :-(
Why do these videos have such low views. Disservice.
What about the Hereford Whitefaces?