FUN FACT!:: The mountain range at the south end of Salt Lake City is named Ball Mountain. It's a formation known as a "transverse range" as it runs east and west. For some reason, people started calling Ball Mountain :Transverse Mountain" and the name stuck. "Point of the Mountain" is the name of the pass between Salt Lake and Utah Counties, around the tip of Ball Mountain. This is the location of the State Penitentiary, however soon to be moved to make room for development. HOWEVER, this means one could reasonably call the State Penitentiary "Ball Point Pen". Just a thought.....
Toy Man Television growing up in that area we always referred to "Ball" mountain as the widow maker. It used to be pretty popular with off road enthusiasts doing hill climbs.
I was there the day someone first made it to the top! For the most part, EVERYONE was drunk. Fights... Yelling. like 2K people watching the "race". Then one guy just made it to the top!! More yelling. More fighting. More drinking.
I lived along that line when I was a kid. Ore trains would travel to Geneva Steel along the line and taconite pellets would leak out of the hoppers . Those ore pellets were really dense and heavy and made great slingshot ammo.
I was a "Stationary" Boiler Fireman, 1967 to 1972, & during that time, we switched from coal.to oil. Didn't like to re-learn my job & went back to school, & earned an A.A. degree in Fire Science. Retired & among other things, have become a railfan. I enjoy your channel.
JerkRice just found out this was the main line to Los Angeles back in the early days. Then a new line west of the mountains made this more of a branch line.
Great job thanks again for your adventure those abandoned rails are beautiful there's a couple people on RUclips that makes pedal-powered speedsters they would work Wonderful on that line when I was a kid I used to take my VCR and hook it up to my stereo and record the stereo on Channel 3 on the VCR I did not know I was doing digital recording back then off the radio once again thank you for your adventures have a blessed day
When the Lehi Depot was being restored, they were talking about making it a future light rail station. John Rockwell, Lehi author and historian, was very instrumental in it's restoration.
Always love seeing old rail lines that once were a major part of this great nation. Also very cool to see that the line is going to be extended; very very pretty area of Utah you guys live in. And bang on job as always.
Another "Brilliant" episode. I couldn't help but notice near the end you spoke of the pioneering days of digital recording. When you flashed that LP jacket I realized, I have that very same vinyl LP. Vinyl verses CD's is long been argued. I gather progress can not turn back the clock. Thank you for sharing your adventure. Greg and Jeanne
HELLO!!!! That was one of their top sellers, the 1812. But they recorded hundreds. Later put them out on CD. One recording however, Symphony Fantastic, was recorded in Salt Lakes Symphony Hall with two recorders, Tom took his Sound Stream, and Reference Recordings came with their "direct to disc" recorder the cut the master for pressing vinyl. They could make about 1200 records from this master, so very limited release. At any rate, it gave a chance to compare the best vinyl to a 100% digital CD. INTERESTING. (I bought both) The most I can say is different. The vinyl was "warm" and detailed. The digital dynamic and noise free. Can't say either was "best". BUT the vinyl was soon named by the audiophile magazines as the best recording ever made. Hum....... Both are AMAZING recordings. ALSO interesting, the recordings of Dave Grusin were produced by David Geffin. He went on to partner with Speilberg and Joseph katzenberger to form Dream Works.... ALSO one of the guys working with John Warnock at the university of Utah, Ed Catmull joined with Steve Jobs and John Lasater to form Pixar. Amazing people, amazing times at the "U". I have hours of old 3/4 video tape of their original computer animations from about 1972. I used to have the camera they used to record these animations, but it was stolen. Hum.... should be a show I think.
Very nice. Wife and I went to Piedmont, WY last month, and this month we drove a portion of the CPR right of way. neat stuff! and in our new Outback Onyx, no less. Thanks,
Really enjoy your videos so far... love hearing your points of views on your finds and travels... your history data of points of local interest are FUN... it is sad to see that people are tearing up old historical sights and not giving any consideration to how valuable these places are to generations to come... as a child I was always asking my parents and grandparents what it was like, and it helped me secure my identity and who I think I may just be in our wonderful world... it would be easier not to repeat mistakes, but then it seems kids of every generation do not take in what granny was talking about until they are grannies and grandpas themselves... and that being said I can go around see how much has been destroyed as in the old factories disappearing but the rivers and streams seem to be clearing up... just for example... lol
Fun stuf to do. Love just getting out there exploring. Sudden finds.. Goofy stuff. Great people. Yesterday we went to see a back yard railroad and ended up sitting for hours on the patio with these two great and funny guys. Finally walked the tracks. Fun day.
Love your videos - always something new, interesting and surprising. Like this video starting right off with the restored reefer. It happens that I'm just finishing the first of three Branchline Blueprint kits of the ACF 40 ft. UTRX and NWX wood reefer kits. Not exactly this car but very similar. Last evening I just happened to be looking for some more examples of reefers of that general era. What a coincidence. I plan on posting a video of the second build. The first build is being used to debug the process - and there are a lot of bugs :) BTW: Car guy too - Started Ice Racing Corvairs and Fiats then moved on to race FC and FF in SCCA regionals and nationals back in the day. - Dave
dgwachtel I love refers and boxcars. Seems in the day most cars were box cars, perhaps refers in 2nd place. These days theses cars are becoming almost rare! Refer trucks have most of the loads and containers are killing box cars. My faves are the old wood cars.
Yeah, those old wood cars have a certain charm don't they. Iron men and horses but wooden cars. I went to elementary school across from a medium size marshalling yard. It was fascinating. I haven’t train watched since. I live in the Albany NY area so I should take the short trip down to the Selkirk yards and check out car counts - don't know if it's possible to get close enough to do so though. With virtual rail fanning, all I see are autotrains, intermodals and AmTrack with only the occasional mixed freight. As a little boy, I was lucky enough to catch the last few steam engines still in service. My mom took me to a place close to the tracks where steam headed consists went by every twenty minutes or so. The engineers would invariably blow the whistle and wave; still a vivid memory. An uncle was a conductor for the NYC but I got a ride, much to my disappointment. I'm restoring my old HO stuff from the early sixties and it's going well. Updates such as adding LCD lights and details as well as weathering and repair have been completed on most of the equipment. The printing and paint on much of the equipment is terrible so I have to strip and redecorate several of the cars - not looking forward to that task. There were an additional twenty or so junky cars that went into the bin years ago. They weren’t even worth storing, leaving only eight cars and five locos to restore. Oddly enough, the junkers had pretty good fully sprung metal trucks/wheels similar to KaDee's. Those I kept. I'm also adding new rolling stock as the budget allows. These ACF's are my first "new" cars since 1962 and my first reefers. Those blueprint cars are a bear to build, at least as difficult as the North Eastern/Ambroid Great Northern craftsman caboose kit I just repaired and completed. I have lot of video of the restoration and upgrade process that I will be posting to YT as soon as I can finish editing them. I just have a test track set up but a layout is possible in the next couple of years though. The downside is that the hobby has gotten very expensive since the sixties but on the upside the products are much better. Anyway - thanks for the vids and reply. - Dave
They keep recording later after other systems were available. But the 70's recordings were all Sound Stream. Not only were they $20, but that was when a burger drink and fries cost $2.
I really love your videos. You get a thumbs up from me every week! One thing I would really enjoy seeing is if you could add a map or some other description of where these outings are for out of towners like me. Through careful google mapping I've been able to figure a few out, but it is always a challenge for me, who's not from your area. But keep up the great videos. I look forward to every Sunday morning adventure.
good idea!! Heres a link to the Draper depot. In satellite you can see the tracks all the way south to Lehi. Except where they are missing... www.google.com/maps/place/12400+S+@+1115+E/@40.409949,-111.855872,35463m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8752875fb3ecb123:0x1adf99ee4ab000a1!8m2!3d40.525389!4d-111.859558
I live right there, I hike those tracks all the time! They are so pretty, the farm with the zebra is one of my old friends houses! I was there today riding my mountain bike on the porters trail! Brought over on the tracks a couple times. Always hope to avoid stickers!
The last time I took a train was when I travelled from San Francisco California to Tacoma Washington. I went on a road trip with a family member and we landed in San Francisco. When the day was over, one of us decided to take the Amtrak back to Tacoma while he went to visit other places.
Sometimes, one just has to go and do a thing... Like riding a train. It doesn't cost a lot... and it's a lot of fun! The best part is... You can sleep on the train.. get to your destination.. go do a little sight seeing... then hop back on the train again, and head back home! Even a short train ride! A day trip! Some of the most fun we have had, was a sudden out-of-the blue opportunity to ride a train, fly in a Ford Tri-Motor.. go to Lagoon amusement park. Some fun times just happen, and are not planned!! :D
This looks great!!! would love to hike the tracks...I had once walked the tracks near Central City in Colorado durning the winter time. When to the tunnel and turned back as if the train came through that tunnel, there weren't any not to get hit
The rail line also had a branch somewhere in Utah valley that came off went back to the north on the east side of the freeway to the Gravel Pit there at point of the mountain can't remember what this was called or exactly where it was but I do remember the tracks being there.
I live in Stillwater Minnesota. The Minnesota Zephyr tourist RR line used to go right by the house I'm in. That ended December 31 2008. The DNR bought the line and converted its 5.9 miles to a bike trail. It connects downtown Stillwater to a bike trail that goes to St.Paul. Either one could be converted to light rail some day. Minneapolis/St.Paul currently has two light rail lines with a third one approved and a fourth one teetering on build/delay or shelve it. Decades ago Minneapolis and St.Paul had I believe the most extensive light rail system in the US,, including a line here into Stillwater that was 1/2 miles from where I live. You really have a good speaking voice and if you didn't do professional voice work in the past, you could have. In the 90's I wanted to get into the talk radio business. A business that's really hard to get into, and even harder to make into a career.
Boyd W we love old abandoned lines, Better working railroads. Don't know why old tracks are beautiful but they are! Have not done much voice work but a lifetime of soundtracks. I did do the voice of a bear on NBC. ruclips.net/video/Rf8JBYp1HsE/видео.html
It would be a grand trip!! Need to get around the one crossing that out. About a mile from the Draper station to the missing crossing. About 5 more miles to where the tracks are out at the sand and gravel pit. About a mile more beyond that.
That was awesome .!!! I would like to know where you get a lot of your information about these abandon lines .. I live in pa where we have a lot of abandon tracks and I know nothing about them .. There is even an abandon tunnel somewhere close to me that people talk about , I've personally never seen it but would love to ..
Patrick Doran, Not all of Taylor Yard was abandoned. The East end of Taylor Yard is the main maintenance facility for Metrolink. The last part of Taylor Yard to be abandoned by the Union Pacific was the Locomotive Maintenance facility in the middle of the yard.
You should do a review of all the railroads that met in the Salt Lake City area before all the mergers took place and all the different yards and transferring of frieght between them and how it changed as the mergers took place and why some rails were abandoned and may soon be abandoned. Abandoned lines make me sad and wish someone would realize we should save them and use them. Southern Pacific, Union Pacific, Western Pacific, Denver & Rio Grand Western and I'm sure there were others YOU would know about living in the area. Thanks again for the video. Much railroad history in Utah. P.S. Along I-70 there is a long abandoned line with tunnels and is located across the river, can't remember if it was in Utah or Colorado, Utah I think.
My old HO layout modeled that. Grant Tower, west of the UP depot where the UP WP D and RG and Salt LAke garfield and Western interchanged. Mostly gone now, but make an interesting video for sure!!!!
Another great vid!!! I Don't get why they didn't turn it into a tourist route but at least there's a line there to reuse in the first place, so much better than the fate of most rail lines.
come to whats left of the port of tillamock bay rr but not all rail line unused Garibaldi, OR to rock away,Oregon used a lot in summer wheeler up to salmon berry,Oregon not as many trains run on that part of rail line the is own by ocs rr all to Enright,Oregon bay city Oregon Coast Railriders run rail bikes on thhe line to point north of wilson river then the rail bilkes around awesome right ?
Johnny Wilson I doubt it. So one starts at the top. First donate 100 bucks to the mayors reelection. Then Ask the mayor then work it backwards. When that fails just go do it.
When are you going to be buying a speeder? Great video, as usual. I so look forward to seeing you both every week. That's really interesting about the digital recordings particularly about Dave Grusin who has always been on the cutting edge of technology in music. thanks for that, see you next week
Okay I'll try this again the Provo Branch line was not so much a branch as part of the main line for the D&RG, it tied in with Union Pacific the line ran from Delta North along the highway going towards Tooele branched off at Lindell(?) and went over to Nephi then on North up through Provo into Salt Lake and eventually to the D&RG Station. Amtrak used this for a while till they pulled the stop in Provo. I also can remember the times running over the tracks in Provo and in Lehi and seeing the tracks wondering where they went to from Provo on South till I followed up and found them they do come out just north of IPP then continue on down into Delta they were in LA&SL track lines till D&RW. then Union Pacific. Union Pacific used on for a while then abandon them I know they were using them for a time when they built the power plant in Nephi as part of that power plant was hauled in on those rail lines and unloaded off of the flat cars there I watch them doing that also watch them drop one of those flat cars, or I shouldn't say flat cars one of the semi trucks they were using shuffling them around from the railroad to the plant, into the mud.
This never was a branchline. This was technically part of the main, connecting to the LA&SL route down south until 1982. The D&RGW main was embargoed in Davis/Weber counties due to the Great Salt Lake rising so they struck a deal with the UP and became a joint operation on UP rails north of SLC, and D&RGW rails through the SL Valley southward.
Just a factual correction - That's not a branch line, that was a very busy main line to Los Angeles until the UP and D&RGW were merged officially and UP started pulling out their own line due to the grade over Point of the Mountain. It was the original route through Milford until the LA&SL was built through Tooele and around the Bingham mountains through Garfield into Salt Lake City.
Check this out on Google Maps. 12400 S @ 1115 E I think this is Draper. It is a Google Maps stitching error showing the UP tracks literally disappear into the UTA platform at Draper Town Centre stop. It will not last more then a year. Things you find when your screwing around following someone else's screwing around.
You could go and see it. My Mom's sister gave me pictures of that abandoned railroad. The tracks were torn up and they were replaced with a hike trail. But there are signs there that would let you know that the Santa Fe, Prescott and Phoenix railroad used to run there. There's also a spike which is stuck on a rock. And there is a part that saids Colorado on it that can be found too.
Well sort of. YES this is the original line from 1868. Not the original tracks, but the same grade in places. They met at Promontory Summit north of the Great Salt Lake on May 10 1869.
YES!! Almost hate to see it. I love the look and feel of the single track trolley with passing tracks. Hope they don't go to the bigger cars and all. Low and slow in this case is great. I figure they will just put in double track and keep the same slow cars and the walking path as is. Hope so.
Just a thought, but... Silicon is used to make computer chips. Silicone is used to make fake boobies. Both are good things. Mechanics also use silicone to help make their gaskets seal better in their hot rod motors. Just thought I'd throw that tidbit of information out there. Great video guys! Looking forward to the next adventure. Cheers, Dan
Toy Man Television I don't have any, but there are plenty of pics on the Internet. The line starts in Kansas City, goes through Raytown and Lee's Summit, and eastward across central Missouri.
+ToyMan *Thanks for this story on some track that,* should the Union Pacific see need to reactivate it, will need some re-routing around light poles and other obstacles athwart the original tracks. In my native California, I'm still awaiting massive convoys of heavy equipment along Byron Highway, Tracy, San Joaquin County, to Brentwood, Contra Costa County - the currently defunct Mococo Line will have to be rebuilt from the foundations to current standards if it's to withstand the pounding of the currently-in-overhaul 4-8+8-4 American Single Expansion Articulated Class BSA-1 SerNo 69585; in the Southern Pacific era, the heaviest steamers run here were 2-8-2's and 4-6-2's, and Class BSA-1 has ten tons on the SP's own 4-8+8-2 Baldwin cab-forwards.
"There's no way anybody could get a train onto these tracks", now that is tempting fate if I have ever heard it! On a side note, how is nowhere coming along?
Brian Straight LOL! You are so right! That would be a sight! A little light house keeping here, is definitely in order! Otherwise, a train coming down those tracks would sound like we are being invaded by a T-Rex! Funny how fast vegetation takes over! :D
Looking GREAT!!! We will be covering painting the backdrop in a few weeks. Then, it mostly finished. As things go. Never really "finished". THEN back to the port and the lighthouse!
Toy Man Television haha, he just had to change it enough to mess with your video titles. I am very much looking forward to seeing the update, the videos that you have put out were one of the biggest influences for me to go On30 for my models. Thanks for the inspiration!
Oh to be a multibillionaire ; and have enough money to connect all these little railroads and abandon tracks together and make them cross the entire United States but, again, something similar to what the (“Southern Pacific’s Sunset Limited”) beginning and leaving from Jacksonville, Florida going through Houston, and San Antonio, Texas only to find that the end trip would be the Los Angeles and San Diego area !!! 🌊🐺
As of 2021, a light rail extension will not be built on this abandoned rail line. Utah Transportation Authority opted instead for bus lines instead. The cost of rehabilitating the rail line would be more expensive than building bus lines on already existing roads.
It would be neat if these old tracks were cleared of vegetation and permission obtainef to use speeders. Replace a few rails and it could be a lot of enjoyment.
oh, bow I think you might want to reconsider your pronunciation of 'silicon' slopes. I chuckled. see you when we see you, I wish you both the very best.
And keep in mind this is Utah County. Little known fact: Grand Tetons is a rude french expression for huge... Well you get it. ANYWAY. yea, need to not say implants when I mean computer.... Finally figured out how to say nuclear at least.
Another interesting, well done video, thanks from this subscriber who watches and enjoys all of your output. But as an old techie, I do have one little comment - the silicon in Silicon Valley is pronounced siliCON, not siliCONE. That added letter E makes a huge difference. SiliCON is an element used to make computer chips, but siliCONE is a soft mushy organic compound used to make things like breast implants.
That would be great if they would let people do that. I suppose people could just sneak and do it and nobody would say a thing, but getting permission would be virtually impossible.
If our World was indeed round how is it we can see those Mountains in the far distance that have to be at least 100 miles away?? Would they not be around the curve of the Earth?? just saying!!
Since I have been in Radio production and seconds count Adobe Audition is So Much Quicker to edit and save on the network when seconds count. Pro Tools was when we used in the recording studio, but Audition is my every day tool I can't live without.
Mr + Mrs Toy Man Yes it is Beautiful , I watched into just the beginning and spotted something . You are into History so about the Milk White Eggs Boxcar . The Word Despatch a Computer search would lead to , Despatch Jct is in East Rochester , N.Y . They Built Railcars There , and it was Named Despatch before it was renamed East Rochester . The story would end if I suggested the Box car was Built Here in Western , NY . The Box Car May have been built some where else Because it was a Large Company . It eventually Became Merchants Despatch Transport . A fleet of Railcars across the country ? You might have an Idea for another Video on the History of the Box car and or Company . I can Not build a good video with the History like you do , I just Do Abandoned 1875 Bridge coming down ? Thank you for the tour I will now finish watching you great Video .
We’ve had a couple people say that they were model in that exact car! I guess it’s a fairly common car around all over the United States. Sure a neat looking thing and I love that paint job
There's a huge difference between "silicone" and "silicon", much more than a single letter would seem to imply. Easily researched, so I won't bore you with it. Bottom line: "silicone" would NOT be applicable here, to semiconductors.
Toy man I want you and your wife got to western Maryland railway historical society on the western Maryland railway now it is western Maryland scenic railroad to Cumberland Maryland to frostburg Maryland western Maryland end in Maryland and West Virginia that nice place to go to website. Is www.wmsr.com nice ride on it I like your video s nice. And interested I am a big train guy to the railroad goes pass my littel home town call graceham Maryland train gose pass there Monday Wednesday and Friday it fright train the train comes out to union bridge Maryland in joy happy train look. Your friend Timmy
We did visit Maryland 2 years ago... on another mission. We were the film crew for a fellow that was making a documentary film in Washington DC. We were able to visit the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Museum... briefly.. as time did not permit much "fun" sightseeing. We stayed in Silver Springs Maryland during the course of our stay. We really want to return to that area again.. on our own time. The Maryland Railway sounds like it would be well worth the visit... and we will definitely be adding this destination to our list!! Thanks for the heads up!! :D
all those rails are long gone now its a paved bicycle/foot trail now as for the final light rail station at Adobe, it will never be because of the gravel pits and the truck traffic that crosses it and is too dangerous to do and UTA has decided its not worth the expense or liability.
FUN FACT!:: The mountain range at the south end of Salt Lake City is named Ball Mountain. It's a formation known as a "transverse range" as it runs east and west. For some reason, people started calling Ball Mountain :Transverse Mountain" and the name stuck. "Point of the Mountain" is the name of the pass between Salt Lake and Utah Counties, around the tip of Ball Mountain. This is the location of the State Penitentiary, however soon to be moved to make room for development. HOWEVER, this means one could reasonably call the State Penitentiary "Ball Point Pen". Just a thought.....
Booooo! :-)
Toy Man Television growing up in that area we always referred to "Ball" mountain as the widow maker. It used to be pretty popular with off road enthusiasts doing hill climbs.
Yes... Me too!
I was there the day someone first made it to the top! For the most part, EVERYONE was drunk. Fights... Yelling. like 2K people watching the "race". Then one guy just made it to the top!! More yelling. More fighting. More drinking.
same one could run rail bikes or Speer cars on the ex union pacific rail line
I lived along that line when I was a kid. Ore trains would travel to Geneva Steel along the line and taconite pellets would leak out of the hoppers . Those ore pellets were really dense and heavy and made great slingshot ammo.
I'll bet!!!!! For what it's worth, the switch lantern on the switch stand next to the door at Garagemahall is from the yards at the steel mill.
I was a "Stationary" Boiler Fireman, 1967 to 1972, & during that time, we switched from coal.to oil. Didn't like to re-learn my job & went back to school, & earned an A.A. degree in Fire Science. Retired & among other things, have become a railfan. I enjoy your channel.
I’ve always laughed at the expression stationary Steam engine. I always think really? Well then fix it
Enjoyed seeing the abandoned tracks. So much history if you know where to look.
JerkRice just found out this was the main line to Los Angeles back in the early days. Then a new line west of the mountains made this more of a branch line.
Another gem of a real neat exploration of history trip. Love it!
Love the old tracks. And the trip through time.
Another enjoyable video on the history of railroading in Utah. Thanks Dale and Karyn.
Gary Sumner thanks! This week we are working on our layout!!!
another great video guys!!!
Fun day out too!
Very cool thank you have a great weekend
Working on golden spikes shows. Several of them.
Very nice
Great job thanks again for your adventure those abandoned rails are beautiful there's a couple people on RUclips that makes pedal-powered speedsters they would work Wonderful on that line when I was a kid I used to take my VCR and hook it up to my stereo and record the stereo on Channel 3 on the VCR I did not know I was doing digital recording back then off the radio once again thank you for your adventures have a blessed day
Kevin Romas We did that... years ago. Thought it was so cool to record TV shows, back in the day...
Wow, those mountains look incredible! 😀
good video glad that the old rail line will be rebuild here most old rail lines become walking trails but a few were rebuilt
Beth Woodford been in development for 20 years!! Money.... but with Adobe asking nicely it will soon happen. Adobe has agreed to double their size.
When the Lehi Depot was being restored, they were talking about making it a future light rail station. John Rockwell, Lehi author and historian, was very instrumental in it's restoration.
LOVE to see that. We were thinking the same thing. They would need to get the tracks over the new highway to Alpine, but they could do an overpass.
Always love seeing old rail lines that once were a major part of this great nation. Also very cool to see that the line is going to be extended; very very pretty area of Utah you guys live in. And bang on job as always.
crystalrock18 just found out this was the UP main line to Los Angeles in the early days! Didn't know.
WOAH now that is freaking KEWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another great trip down railroading history. Thanks for sharing
Fun day out.
Another "Brilliant" episode. I couldn't help but notice near the end you spoke of the pioneering days of digital recording. When you flashed that LP jacket I realized, I have that very same vinyl LP. Vinyl verses CD's is long been argued. I gather progress can not turn back the clock. Thank you for sharing your adventure. Greg and Jeanne
HELLO!!!! That was one of their top sellers, the 1812. But they recorded hundreds. Later put them out on CD. One recording however, Symphony Fantastic, was recorded in Salt Lakes Symphony Hall with two recorders, Tom took his Sound Stream, and Reference Recordings came with their "direct to disc" recorder the cut the master for pressing vinyl. They could make about 1200 records from this master, so very limited release. At any rate, it gave a chance to compare the best vinyl to a 100% digital CD. INTERESTING. (I bought both) The most I can say is different. The vinyl was "warm" and detailed. The digital dynamic and noise free. Can't say either was "best". BUT the vinyl was soon named by the audiophile magazines as the best recording ever made. Hum....... Both are AMAZING recordings. ALSO interesting, the recordings of Dave Grusin were produced by David Geffin. He went on to partner with Speilberg and Joseph katzenberger to form Dream Works.... ALSO one of the guys working with John Warnock at the university of Utah, Ed Catmull joined with Steve Jobs and John Lasater to form Pixar. Amazing people, amazing times at the "U". I have hours of old 3/4 video tape of their original computer animations from about 1972. I used to have the camera they used to record these animations, but it was stolen. Hum.... should be a show I think.
Very nice. Wife and I went to Piedmont, WY last month, and this month we drove a portion of the CPR right of way. neat stuff! and in our new Outback Onyx, no less. Thanks,
Really enjoy your videos so far... love hearing your points of views on your finds and travels... your history data of points of local interest are FUN... it is sad to see that people are tearing up old historical sights and not giving any consideration to how valuable these places are to generations to come... as a child I was always asking my parents and grandparents what it was like, and it helped me secure my identity and who I think I may just be in our wonderful world... it would be easier not to repeat mistakes, but then it seems kids of every generation do not take in what granny was talking about until they are grannies and grandpas themselves... and that being said I can go around see how much has been destroyed as in the old factories disappearing but the rivers and streams seem to be clearing up... just for example... lol
Fun stuf to do. Love just getting out there exploring. Sudden finds.. Goofy stuff. Great people. Yesterday we went to see a back yard railroad and ended up sitting for hours on the patio with these two great and funny guys. Finally walked the tracks. Fun day.
Love your videos - always something new, interesting and surprising. Like this video starting right off with the restored reefer. It happens that I'm just finishing the first of three Branchline Blueprint kits of the ACF 40 ft. UTRX and NWX wood reefer kits. Not exactly this car but very similar. Last evening I just happened to be looking for some more examples of reefers of that general era. What a coincidence. I plan on posting a video of the second build. The first build is being used to debug the process - and there are a lot of bugs :)
BTW: Car guy too - Started Ice Racing Corvairs and Fiats then moved on to race FC and FF in SCCA regionals and nationals back in the day.
- Dave
dgwachtel I love refers and boxcars. Seems in the day most cars were box cars, perhaps refers in 2nd place. These days theses cars are becoming almost rare! Refer trucks have most of the loads and containers are killing box cars. My faves are the old wood cars.
Yeah, those old wood cars have a certain charm don't they. Iron men and horses but wooden cars.
I went to elementary school across from a medium size marshalling yard. It was fascinating. I haven’t train watched since. I live in the Albany NY area so I should take the short trip down to the Selkirk yards and check out car counts - don't know if it's possible to get close enough to do so though. With virtual rail fanning, all I see are autotrains, intermodals and AmTrack with only the occasional mixed freight.
As a little boy, I was lucky enough to catch the last few steam engines still in service. My mom took me to a place close to the tracks where steam headed consists went by every twenty minutes or so. The engineers would invariably blow the whistle and wave; still a vivid memory. An uncle was a conductor for the NYC but I got a ride, much to my disappointment.
I'm restoring my old HO stuff from the early sixties and it's going well. Updates such as adding LCD lights and details as well as weathering and repair have been completed on most of the equipment. The printing and paint on much of the equipment is terrible so I have to strip and redecorate several of the cars - not looking forward to that task. There were an additional twenty or so junky cars that went into the bin years ago. They weren’t even worth storing, leaving only eight cars and five locos to restore. Oddly enough, the junkers had pretty good fully sprung metal trucks/wheels similar to KaDee's. Those I kept. I'm also adding new rolling stock as the budget allows. These ACF's are my first "new" cars since 1962 and my first reefers. Those blueprint cars are a bear to build, at least as difficult as the North Eastern/Ambroid Great Northern craftsman caboose kit I just repaired and completed.
I have lot of video of the restoration and upgrade process that I will be posting to YT as soon as I can finish editing them.
I just have a test track set up but a layout is possible in the next couple of years though. The downside is that the hobby has gotten very expensive since the sixties but on the upside the products are much better.
Anyway - thanks for the vids and reply.
- Dave
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Great local flavor. Thanks for sharing.
Jon Heller grand day out.
Really great video and enjoyed the commentary about Adobe.
Love Adobe. Glad to see them back in Utah.
wow this amazing thank you😁
Great to learn about the origin of Telarc - I have many of those recordings from when they were released of CD - well over $20 each in those days!
They keep recording later after other systems were available. But the 70's recordings were all Sound Stream. Not only were they $20, but that was when a burger drink and fries cost $2.
Good stuff!
I really love your videos. You get a thumbs up from me every week!
One thing I would really enjoy seeing is if you could add a map or some other description of where these outings are for out of towners like me. Through careful google mapping I've been able to figure a few out, but it is always a challenge for me, who's not from your area.
But keep up the great videos. I look forward to every Sunday morning adventure.
Andrew Reehorst That's a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion!! 😊
good idea!! Heres a link to the Draper depot. In satellite you can see the tracks all the way south to Lehi. Except where they are missing... www.google.com/maps/place/12400+S+@+1115+E/@40.409949,-111.855872,35463m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8752875fb3ecb123:0x1adf99ee4ab000a1!8m2!3d40.525389!4d-111.859558
I live right there, I hike those tracks all the time! They are so pretty, the farm with the zebra is one of my old friends houses! I was there today riding my mountain bike on the porters trail! Brought over on the tracks a couple times. Always hope to avoid stickers!
Stookey-Scale-Modeling great place!!! O scale guy Mike niederhauser lives there too. Up on the ridge.
I've always loved the train. Whenever possible, I'd take the train. :)
Funner
I wish I could take the train from Gig Harbor Washington, where I live, to Silverdale Washington, where I live.
The last time I took a train was when I travelled from San Francisco California to Tacoma Washington. I went on a road trip with a family member and we landed in San Francisco. When the day was over, one of us decided to take the Amtrak back to Tacoma while he went to visit other places.
Sometimes, one just has to go and do a thing... Like riding a train. It doesn't cost a lot... and it's a lot of fun! The best part is... You can sleep on the train.. get to your destination.. go do a little sight seeing... then hop back on the train again, and head back home! Even a short train ride! A day trip! Some of the most fun we have had, was a sudden out-of-the blue opportunity to ride a train, fly in a Ford Tri-Motor.. go to Lagoon amusement park. Some fun times just happen, and are not planned!! :D
This looks great!!! would love to hike the tracks...I had once walked the tracks near Central City in Colorado durning the winter time. When to the tunnel and turned back as if the train came through that tunnel, there weren't any not to get hit
tjorgensen2007 can bec dangerous!! In this case there is a paved trail right along the side of the tracks for miles!!
The rail line also had a branch somewhere in Utah valley that came off went back to the north on the east side of the freeway to the Gravel Pit there at point of the mountain can't remember what this was called or exactly where it was but I do remember the tracks being there.
I live in Stillwater Minnesota. The Minnesota Zephyr tourist RR line used to go right by the house I'm in. That ended December 31 2008. The DNR bought the line and converted its 5.9 miles to a bike trail. It connects downtown Stillwater to a bike trail that goes to St.Paul. Either one could be converted to light rail some day. Minneapolis/St.Paul currently has two light rail lines with a third one approved and a fourth one teetering on build/delay or shelve it. Decades ago Minneapolis and St.Paul had I believe the most extensive light rail system in the US,, including a line here into Stillwater that was 1/2 miles from where I live. You really have a good speaking voice and if you didn't do professional voice work in the past, you could have. In the 90's I wanted to get into the talk radio business. A business that's really hard to get into, and even harder to make into a career.
Boyd W we love old abandoned lines, Better working railroads. Don't know why old tracks are beautiful but they are! Have not done much voice work but a lifetime of soundtracks. I did do the voice of a bear on NBC. ruclips.net/video/Rf8JBYp1HsE/видео.html
Boyd W jump to 6 minutes to see (hear) Bozo the bear. That was his real name, in the show he was Ben.
You need to get a speeder group to come and preserve it!
Carl Sorensen Wouldn't that be fun!!
It would be a grand trip!! Need to get around the one crossing that out. About a mile from the Draper station to the missing crossing. About 5 more miles to where the tracks are out at the sand and gravel pit. About a mile more beyond that.
That was awesome .!!! I would like to know where you get a lot of your information about these abandon lines .. I live in pa where we have a lot of abandon tracks and I know nothing about them .. There is even an abandon tunnel somewhere close to me that people talk about , I've personally never seen it but would love to ..
Mostly I hear stories. Some of which turn out to be true!!
At 11:47 are those the old San Jose LRVs that TRAX bought still in VTA colors?
Could be.... Not sure. Trying to get UTA to help us. Even to just say hello... Not response from them so far.
UTA executives are typically known to be highly corrupt.
I live in San Jose.
I’m a explore that train one day
I love your channel. Haven't made it thru all 200+, but have seen quite a few. BTW, time for another show at Steve's
LeonaTimberCompany yep! Village of knowwhere coming up! First a show on painting the backdrop for the village.
In California one spot that was abandoned for a long time before it was demolished was Taylor Yard which was owned by the Southern Pacific Railroad.
Something magical about old abandoned tracks...
Patrick Doran, Not all of Taylor Yard was abandoned. The East end of Taylor Yard is the main maintenance facility for Metrolink. The last part of Taylor Yard to be abandoned by the Union Pacific was the Locomotive Maintenance facility in the middle of the yard.
Rita Loy oh okay
You should do a review of all the railroads that met in the Salt Lake City area before all the mergers took place and all the different yards and transferring of frieght between them and how it changed as the mergers took place and why some rails were abandoned and may soon be abandoned. Abandoned lines make me sad and wish someone would realize we should save them and use them. Southern Pacific, Union Pacific, Western Pacific, Denver & Rio Grand Western and I'm sure there were others YOU would know about living in the area. Thanks again for the video. Much railroad history in Utah.
P.S. Along I-70 there is a long abandoned line with tunnels and is located across the river, can't remember if it was in Utah or Colorado, Utah I think.
My old HO layout modeled that. Grant Tower, west of the UP depot where the UP WP D and RG and Salt LAke garfield and Western interchanged. Mostly gone now, but make an interesting video for sure!!!!
Patrick O'Guinn ok planning the show! Shooting this week. Thanks!!
Toy Man Television I'll be watching. Thanks
3:33 note the original wooden road crossing under the asphalt.
Great look!
Maybe blue link will use the rail in the future because of the building going on! A somewhat silent sub now but still watching the videos!
Another great vid!!! I Don't get why they didn't turn it into a tourist route but at least there's a line there to reuse in the first place, so much better than the fate of most rail lines.
Jacob Oliver ..... Money.... Just a wild guess I guess.
Too true unfortunately. At least it's still there in the first place.
If you like this, you would LOVE Madison County (IL) Transit bike trails. 100% rail 70% canopy.
That sounds great! I love these old abandoned tracks overgrown. But when sounds like a real winner to
I’m surprised to see at 7:52 on that crossing has a NEW safetrain electronic crossing bell.
UP. Go figure. Tracks are great, but not used. There is a brick plant just north of here, not sure if they ever go down there, or?????
come to whats left of the port of tillamock bay rr but not all rail line unused Garibaldi, OR to rock away,Oregon used a lot in summer wheeler up to salmon berry,Oregon not as many trains run on that part of rail line the is own by ocs rr all to Enright,Oregon bay city Oregon Coast Railriders run rail bikes on thhe line to point north of wilson river then the rail bilkes around awesome right ?
That would be a beautiful 'Speeder' excursion.....wonder if they allow that
Johnny Wilson I doubt it. So one starts at the top. First donate 100 bucks to the mayors reelection. Then Ask the mayor then work it backwards. When that fails just go do it.
When are you going to be buying a speeder? Great video, as usual. I so look forward to seeing you both every week. That's really interesting about the digital recordings particularly about Dave Grusin who has always been on the cutting edge of technology in music. thanks for that, see you next week
Cool
I heard that the 3985 came in 1982 along those tracks.
Indeed. I have video of it. Like vhs but still I love it. Need to digitize more of it
Okay I'll try this again the Provo Branch line was not so much a branch as part of the main line for the D&RG, it tied in with Union Pacific the line ran from Delta North along the highway going towards Tooele branched off at Lindell(?) and went over to Nephi then on North up through Provo into Salt Lake and eventually to the D&RG Station. Amtrak used this for a while till they pulled the stop in Provo. I also can remember the times running over the tracks in Provo and in Lehi and seeing the tracks wondering where they went to from Provo on South till I followed up and found them they do come out just north of IPP then continue on down into Delta they were in LA&SL track lines till D&RW. then Union Pacific. Union Pacific used on for a while then abandon them I know they were using them for a time when they built the power plant in Nephi as part of that power plant was hauled in on those rail lines and unloaded off of the flat cars there I watch them doing that also watch them drop one of those flat cars, or I shouldn't say flat cars one of the semi trucks they were using shuffling them around from the railroad to the plant, into the mud.
Didn't know. Makes sense though. Ive often wondered why UP built this line, but knowing it's the old main, AH!!!!! I get it.
This never was a branchline. This was technically part of the main, connecting to the LA&SL route down south until 1982. The D&RGW main was embargoed in Davis/Weber counties due to the Great Salt Lake rising so they struck a deal with the UP and became a joint operation on UP rails north of SLC, and D&RGW rails through the SL Valley southward.
Just a factual correction - That's not a branch line, that was a very busy main line to Los Angeles until the UP and D&RGW were merged officially and UP started pulling out their own line due to the grade over Point of the Mountain. It was the original route through Milford until the LA&SL was built through Tooele and around the Bingham mountains through Garfield into Salt Lake City.
It's a branch line now...... Did you not see the trees???
When was the LA and Sl built? Didn't know that.
Check this out on Google Maps. 12400 S @ 1115 E I think this is Draper. It is a Google Maps stitching error showing the UP tracks literally disappear into the UTA platform at Draper Town Centre stop. It will not last more then a year. Things you find when your screwing around following someone else's screwing around.
There is another railroad that is abandoned it's the Santa Fe, Prescott and Phoenix railroad.
Want to see that
You could go and see it. My Mom's sister gave me pictures of that abandoned railroad. The tracks were torn up and they were replaced with a hike trail. But there are signs there that would let you know that the Santa Fe, Prescott and Phoenix railroad used to run there. There's also a spike which is stuck on a rock. And there is a part that saids Colorado on it that can be found too.
@Toyman Television You should've put a pump car on these tracks :)
That would be FUN
Toy Man Television :)
oh I would ride a Speeder on that branch!
microbusss Cool idea! But.... Until all those trees are cleared away, the branch you take, may have a few leaves! 😜
true or use a Handcar instead
I'd bring a saw anyway hehe
I saw that coming...
I hope so!!! Can't have Toy Man getting derailed!
Oops, didn't see the second branch... Anyone got a band aid?
So is this the original Union Pacific Transcontinental railroad? Where the Union and Central met in Provo?
Well sort of. YES this is the original line from 1868. Not the original tracks, but the same grade in places. They met at Promontory Summit north of the Great Salt Lake on May 10 1869.
PS. FYI Trains Magazine last week or so had a piece that said the Sugarhouse line had funding for some changes.
YES!! Almost hate to see it. I love the look and feel of the single track trolley with passing tracks. Hope they don't go to the bigger cars and all. Low and slow in this case is great. I figure they will just put in double track and keep the same slow cars and the walking path as is. Hope so.
Do these tracks still exist? If so how do you visit them?
Just a thought, but... Silicon is used to make computer chips. Silicone is used to make fake boobies. Both are good things. Mechanics also use silicone to help make their gaskets seal better in their hot rod motors. Just thought I'd throw that tidbit of information out there. Great video guys! Looking forward to the next adventure. Cheers, Dan
Danny Holt cats poo in it too
You ever see the old CRI&P line through Missouri?
Nope. Any photos?
Toy Man Television I don't have any, but there are plenty of pics on the Internet. The line starts in Kansas City, goes through Raytown and Lee's Summit, and eastward across central Missouri.
+ToyMan *Thanks for this story on some track that,* should the Union Pacific see need to reactivate it, will need some re-routing around light poles and other obstacles athwart the original tracks. In my native California, I'm still awaiting massive convoys of heavy equipment along Byron Highway, Tracy, San Joaquin County, to Brentwood, Contra Costa County - the currently defunct Mococo Line will have to be rebuilt from the foundations to current standards if it's to withstand the pounding of the currently-in-overhaul 4-8+8-4 American Single Expansion Articulated Class BSA-1 SerNo 69585; in the Southern Pacific era, the heaviest steamers run here were 2-8-2's and 4-6-2's, and Class BSA-1 has ten tons on the SP's own 4-8+8-2 Baldwin cab-forwards.
To think this was the old main to San Pedro. At least its still TRACK. Sure was great to see 3985 on it.
"There's no way anybody could get a train onto these tracks", now that is tempting fate if I have ever heard it!
On a side note, how is nowhere coming along?
Brian Straight LOL! You are so right! That would be a sight! A little light house keeping here, is definitely in order! Otherwise, a train coming down those tracks would sound like we are being invaded by a T-Rex! Funny how fast vegetation takes over! :D
Looking GREAT!!! We will be covering painting the backdrop in a few weeks. Then, it mostly finished. As things go. Never really "finished". THEN back to the port and the lighthouse!
PS. He's spelling it Knowhere.
PPS On lake Inferior.
Toy Man Television haha, he just had to change it enough to mess with your video titles. I am very much looking forward to seeing the update, the videos that you have put out were one of the biggest influences for me to go On30 for my models. Thanks for the inspiration!
Oh to be a multibillionaire ; and have enough money to connect all these little railroads and abandon tracks together and make them cross the entire United States but, again, something similar to what the (“Southern Pacific’s Sunset Limited”) beginning and leaving from Jacksonville, Florida going through Houston, and San Antonio, Texas only to find that the end trip would be the Los Angeles and San Diego area !!!
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This line will be re opened as part of the light rail. Some day. They say. But it’s sure a great hike for now.
ZOINK!
As of 2021, a light rail extension will not be built on this abandoned rail line. Utah Transportation Authority opted instead for bus lines instead. The cost of rehabilitating the rail line would be more expensive than building bus lines on already existing roads.
Well that sucks.
It would be neat if these old tracks were cleared of vegetation and permission obtainef to use speeders. Replace a few rails and it could be a lot of enjoyment.
That would be great. But no one is interested. Speeder groups would jump on it but UTA would see it as a pointless expense. To bad. It would be great
what are the plans for the adobe to provo?
Mel Perry they are doubling the size right now. Cool place!! Now if they can just get the light rail finished!!
Steam engine train on that line years ago of Union Pacific Railroad it’s was last used in 1959
The old main of the salt lake Los angles and San Pedro. Then UP. Now a light rail.
Toy Man Television I bee on that railroad tracks there 5 inch long railroad spikes in that track
oh, bow I think you might want to reconsider your pronunciation of 'silicon' slopes. I chuckled. see you when we see you, I wish you both the very best.
Peter Norkawich Hi. I once ordered a burger at a White Castle in New York. Guy just starred at me and said I can't understand a word you said.....
And keep in mind this is Utah County. Little known fact: Grand Tetons is a rude french expression for huge... Well you get it. ANYWAY. yea, need to not say implants when I mean computer.... Finally figured out how to say nuclear at least.
I've gotta come up to utah
Jonathan Kysar it’s a pretty great state. We live in Salt Lake City
The abandoned line is still there. The blue line did not continue, but the red line did. So sad, but they are still there.
Someday they will finish the line. And this will be gone. But for now it’s a beautiful walk.
I bet it is
Another interesting, well done video, thanks from this subscriber who watches and enjoys all of your output. But as an old techie, I do have one little comment - the silicon in Silicon Valley is pronounced siliCON, not siliCONE. That added letter E makes a huge difference. SiliCON is an element used to make computer chips, but siliCONE is a soft mushy organic compound used to make things like breast implants.
David G. Hawkins yes but corn is used to make corn chips. I only bring that up because we are a bit corny. I mis pronounce many things. Oops
SPEEDER RIDES ANYONE??? That's what just went through my head.
Abandoned rail with no connection to active rail, speeder time?
That would be great if they would let people do that. I suppose people could just sneak and do it and nobody would say a thing, but getting permission would be virtually impossible.
If our World was indeed round how is it we can see those Mountains in the far distance that have to be at least 100 miles away?? Would they not be around the curve of the Earth?? just saying!!
mike brabant it's just that I'm very tall.
I am an avid user of Adobe Audition to edit audio
talfacprez I'm a pro tools guy but audition is great! Ps pro tools started as sound tools based on Tom's software used at sound stream.
Since I have been in Radio production and seconds count Adobe Audition is So Much Quicker to edit and save on the network when seconds count. Pro Tools was when we used in the recording studio, but Audition is my every day tool I can't live without.
Damn it, you all are delightful...subbed, liked, here take my money... ; )
Just share with friends and get out there and have your own fun!!
Mr + Mrs Toy Man Yes it is Beautiful , I watched into just the beginning and spotted something . You are into History so about the Milk White Eggs Boxcar . The Word Despatch a Computer search would lead to , Despatch Jct is in East Rochester , N.Y . They Built Railcars There , and it was Named Despatch before it was renamed East Rochester . The story would end if I suggested the Box car was Built Here in Western , NY . The Box Car May have been built some where else Because it was a Large Company . It eventually Became Merchants Despatch Transport . A fleet of Railcars across the country ? You might have an Idea for another Video on the History of the Box car and or Company . I can Not build a good video with the History like you do , I just Do Abandoned 1875 Bridge coming down ? Thank you for the tour I will now finish watching you great Video .
We’ve had a couple people say that they were model in that exact car! I guess it’s a fairly common car around all over the United States. Sure a neat looking thing and I love that paint job
Another possibility of an excursion railroad
The would be great
I see a speeder on those tracks....
Would that be fun.........
Why is no one ever listening to what you are saying in person?
Ahhh..... The curse of the educator! We were both educators... hummmm...
Hey i changed my channel name remember my channel was goodkingstephen
Like the new name!!
@@ToyManTelevision thx
There's a huge difference between "silicone" and "silicon", much more than a single letter would seem to imply. Easily researched, so I won't bore you with it. Bottom line: "silicone" would NOT be applicable here, to semiconductors.
Just my mispronouncing.
And text-entry, in the description: i.e. "Silicone Slopes" twice, FWIW.
Toy man I want you and your wife got to western Maryland railway historical society on the western Maryland railway now it is western Maryland scenic railroad to Cumberland Maryland to frostburg Maryland western Maryland end in Maryland and West Virginia that nice place to go to website. Is www.wmsr.com nice ride on it I like your video s nice. And interested I am a big train guy to the railroad goes pass my littel home town call graceham Maryland train gose pass there Monday Wednesday and Friday it fright train the train comes out to union bridge Maryland in joy happy train look. Your friend Timmy
We did visit Maryland 2 years ago... on another mission. We were the film crew for a fellow that was making a documentary film in Washington DC. We were able to visit the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Museum... briefly.. as time did not permit much "fun" sightseeing. We stayed in Silver Springs Maryland during the course of our stay.
We really want to return to that area again.. on our own time. The Maryland Railway sounds like it would be well worth the visit... and we will definitely be adding this destination to our list!! Thanks for the heads up!! :D
all those rails are long gone now its a paved bicycle/foot trail now as for the final light rail station at Adobe, it will never be because of the gravel pits and the truck traffic that crosses it and is too dangerous to do and UTA has decided its not worth the expense or liability.