As someone who often change the tide of many battles as a bomber aircraft in this game, I support this video! The tips on the speed and sights is what made me a good bomber in the first place. I wish you all players a good flight and fight Edit: Also UFO at 3:36
3:36 Nice easter egg haha. For those of you who didn't notice, the UFO from war thunder's April Fool's day event can be seen taking of in the bottom left of the screen.
Good stuff, Gaijin and Darkflow. 👍 There are some additional things I'd love to see implemented for aircraft to improve the experience: -Friendly plane markers within the 3D game world as well as on the map/mini-map. -Ability to spot enemy aircraft. -Ability to take manual control of gunner positions. -Ability to set MG/cannon convergence distance. -Ability to set bomb fuse time and rocket detonation distance (separately for different types if the plane can equip more than one). -Suspended armament and MG/cannon belts selection (limited to what each plane was historically capable of being equipped with). -Ability to select specific suspended ordnance for use while in-mission (i.e. if your plane is equipped with multiple types of rockets, or multiple types of bombs). -X-ray and armor view functionality in the hangar. -Option to disable auto-roll for pointer controls. -Stable flight control when using a controller/flight stick (planes bounce, wobble, and drift _A LOT_ right now, making it impossible to do anything). Also, I have a few questions. Is the E13A going to get it's missing 3rd crewman? There is a variant of the P-47 in-game that erroneously has air brakes equipped (I don't remember which). Will it be corrected? And what about the planes currently labeled in-game as the _"FP-3",_ _"AP-1",_ and _"U-2"?_ I'm pretty certain they're actually the F4F-3 Wildcat, TBF-1C Avenger, and Po-2 respectively.
there are friendly plane markers aka the blue triangle over their plane, also you could just get better at recognizing planes as planes aren't that hard to tell apart
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName They don't always display within the game world, and there should be an aircraft specific marker akin to the ground vehicle markers. They typically don't show up on the map/min-map, either. Recognizing aircraft is easy, but at long range, it's a different matter.
I would personally suggest not slowing down to much in a dive. The rearming zone isn't that far and the more speed you have the faster you can bomb again. The bombs are still going to be very accurate, you just need to keep in mind that you need to pull up early enough. Also there will likely be enemy air occasionally and slowing down takes away most of your ability to defend yourself and makes you a sitting duck. This is mostly from my moscow experience. With faster planes later on you might want to slow down more. If allies are not spotting targets I found it to be useful to have a slightly less sharp angle on dives where you have to spot targets first. It allows for easier adjustments during the dive and gives a bit more time with how low you can get before having to pull up.
I just wish there was a way to see exactly where the bombs landed in the training map because it’s hard to tell if you hit where you wanted or not. Great video tho! Wonder what you will teach us next
as a warthunder player for years when I came to Enlisted back in the early access beta, I've committed mass devastation with bombs in this game, especially using the good old stuka
they must've changed something since the beta. I have 750h in War Thunder beeing a good bomber and attack plane and it works radically different in this game.
@@sergivega8291 feels like it works the same to me,if you are familiar to realistic ground forces in warthunder it's basically the same except you get in-air reloads, planes like the Ju 188 with it's 6x250kg bombs can be devastating, especially if you have a competent team who knows how to mark enemy tanks
Actually a solid guide 👍 Many nice tips. A few extra: Learn to use combat flaps its almost essentiel for dogfighting. Switch flaps on PC is default on key 2 and 1 When resuplying most planes should start u-turn 100m when nearing resuply to save time Do not kamikaze. I believe bombs dropped after a kamikaze are made much less effective. (You get respawn time penality) (If your team has tickets its a waste of a ticket /life)
Some unorthodox techniques for a figher-bomber (works great for fighters but may not work for slow bombers): 1. High speed shallow dive. After hitting a resupply start diving at the center of the map and keep yout throttle at max. You want 450+ kmph at the bomb release point. The bomb doesn't fall behind your nose, you can achieve an extreme level of precision and you have a lot of energy for a dogfight above the battlefield after a drop. On the other hand, you won't have time to spot ground targets, so you better use it when there's a marked enemy tank/gun position/you know a location where'd be a lot of infantry 2. Low speed shallow dive. Everything mentioned above, but cut your throttle and aim at 300-350 kmph at the release point. The bomb will fall below your nose, but you'll have some of time for spotting tracers. Precision isn't as high as in method 1 and you are pretty vulnerable for enemy fighters 3. Everything mentioned in method 2 but instead dropping a bomb you do a low pass to spot stuff, find a place where you want to drop a bomb, than go vertical, wait until your speed drops below 300, extend your flaps, hold s to turn around, cut the throttle and bomb at the steep angle. Extended flaps and low speed will help you pull out of dive. This technique gives you a lot of spotting time, but hitting from a vertical dive is hard and it leaves you super vulnerable for enemy fighters/aaa fire With little practice all these techniques will allow you to have a bomb dispersion less than 10-15 meters, while maintaining great situational awareness
It is problematic when enemies use a lot of cover. Otherwise you can spot gunfire around the cap and target there. Unless you're using a 12 in screen...
If you need markers from allies then is better to spend more time playing infantry, once you properly know the map you can bomb and get 10+ kills for each travel easily. People on ground are usually too busy being useful attacking and defending to have to spot for a newbie pilot as well.
One thing that I find really annoying about attack aircraft is the fact that the defences against other aircraft aren't really that effective. I mean sure there's a lot of fire power in attack aircraft, which is why I prefer them over five aircraft, seeing as they have less armament, but usually I get shot down when the enemy is usually attack from the below.
Someday it will be possible to use more than two planes and more than two tanks in combat?, and will it be possible to have the option of solo combat within a squad battle?
The devs have stated that they don't want to change the infantry/vehicle balance too much. It's unlikely that they'll ever let you bring more vehicles than now. They MIGHT do something with the rider class, but I wouldn't expect too much from that.
@@Danjiano It's a shame because if you add more vehicles and planes, you remove more squads, leaving in combat alone, you add 40 vs 40 you enlarge the gray area you give way to more strategies and better experiences.. in the end with the squad they see you coming because they are behind and it's not that the bots do much.. the cyclists would be fine
@@Droom_YT being able to spawn as a single soldier instead of a squad literally defeats the purpose of squads, if you want to spawn as a single soldier go play lone fighters
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName It is where I play, there is more level, it is played better as a team, you live in combat in another way with more tension when being alone I mean that experience, with the squadrons they are cannon fodder. By this I don't mean that I'm upset, but it's a humble opinion.
Nice tutorial except it doesn't work. Literally doing everything it says in the video and the vertical line is fine, but the bombs go horizontally wherever they please. I've been 35mins in the practice ground without two strikes in a row. My plane hates me :/
They must add the realistic sound When hitting someone/body with the actual shot /bullet and bring back bullets penetrating wooden cabins/houses because there is alot of campers inside houses/cabins make buildings/cabin completely destructable thats realistic bring night time in with tracer rounds and that special tanks with blinding lights and infantry with lights make it very realistic difficult to see at night when fighting that cool must see tracers and guns firing only please just try it players will like it.
People are wishing for specialised markers for planes but I’m simply wishing that someone would actually mark targets for once. It’s not that hard to see spammed “need enemy coordinates”.
Remember kids: You can bomb effectively without marks, and targets don't appear out of thin air for infantry that are trying to survive to mark! We just love it when the pilot constantly spams the communications with "Need Enemy Coordinates" instead of following the very obvious tracer rounds on the ground to see where the enemy is coming from, and calls the infantry actually trying to win the game by holding the point "idiots" or "retards"!
L take. The tracers can be very hard to see and infantry models draw distance is short. Having a mark will guarantee kills, and half the time, a squad wipe. And you dont have to circle 2 to 5 times trying to figure where people are. More efficient and effective. And as a certain CC said, bind your marks to LMB so you dont have to think twice marking.
@@WowJustWow100 suicide bombing is a waste of tickets and wastes a vehicle spot that someone who is actually good at it could be using, I've been suicide bombed so many times where the bombs did jack shit to my vehicle, you could just as easily go up to said tank with an anti tank soldier and kill it (don't use greyzone camping as an excuse not to I've had no issue killing greyzone tanks)
How about giving us a functional bomb sight? Bit absurd that a actual bomber with a full up sight system still has me guessing exactly when and were to drop my bombs. I am aware "dropping and hoping it lands within 4 blocks" was a real thing in WWII, but come on, if your ripping assets from War Thunder ( don't deny it, the XRAY cam is a massive sign) why couldn't you also rip the bomb reticle as well?
@@grudgebearer1404 lol people act like tigers are supposed to be invincible lol, the rockets have more than enough penetration to go through the roof of a tiger, you can even pen the engine vent with an m5a1 lol
The planes rockets are the only counter to grayzone camping Tigers. Free to play players shouldn't bother with the starter tanks and run the P-38 with rockets.
@@maineiacman Ah ys a fast Attack Plane with 10* Rockets 1* 500lp Bomb 8*12,7 mm Machine Guns is balanced by a slow Bober with 6*250kg Bombs and four Gunners that you have to unlock first.
The JU188 is a free paratrooper assaulter squad while also being a no fly zone with upgraded gunners. Just because you cant use it doesn't mean it doesn't have the same map wiping capacity.
The A20-G25 with its .50 cals and 2 drops of 2 500Lb bombs are not even close to being the same thing as the JU188. Only way it would be better is if it was the Tunisia one with 12 rockets.
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I love air to ground combat. I just hope the game had a bit more draw distance. Especially when going against infantry.
THIS!!!! Most important thing that needs to be improved for cas, especially since draw distance the other way around seems wayy further
I haven't had any issues with draw distance
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName really? I just wish there was low LOD units on the ground at the same distance you can see tracers.
That probably would be op if you have a big screen, seeing infantry from a kilometer away
You need intel from your team -> you are lost
As someone who often change the tide of many battles as a bomber aircraft in this game, I support this video!
The tips on the speed and sights is what made me a good bomber in the first place. I wish you all players a good flight and fight
Edit: Also UFO at 3:36
wow didn't notice that... maybe a hint for april fools?
@@Christ_is_King_zhn Nah, probably an inside joke
You don't change the tide of anything. You do nothing and think your helping because you have kills. Your the problem not the fix
3:36 Nice easter egg haha.
For those of you who didn't notice,
the UFO from war thunder's April Fool's day event can be seen taking of in the bottom left of the screen.
You guys turn my life as tanker into living hell. Thank you :P
if you can't beat them...
once the merge happens I'm gonna be using my flakpanzer and hope I don't get shit on by m13s or gaz 72k trucks lol
Ayyy the War Thunder guy! Nice! The snail is everywhere
Good stuff, Gaijin and Darkflow. 👍
There are some additional things I'd love to see implemented for aircraft to improve the experience:
-Friendly plane markers within the 3D game world as well as on the map/mini-map.
-Ability to spot enemy aircraft.
-Ability to take manual control of gunner positions.
-Ability to set MG/cannon convergence distance.
-Ability to set bomb fuse time and rocket detonation distance (separately for different types if the plane can equip more than one).
-Suspended armament and MG/cannon belts selection (limited to what each plane was historically capable of being equipped with).
-Ability to select specific suspended ordnance for use while in-mission (i.e. if your plane is equipped with multiple types of rockets, or multiple types of bombs).
-X-ray and armor view functionality in the hangar.
-Option to disable auto-roll for pointer controls.
-Stable flight control when using a controller/flight stick (planes bounce, wobble, and drift _A LOT_ right now, making it impossible to do anything).
Also, I have a few questions. Is the E13A going to get it's missing 3rd crewman? There is a variant of the P-47 in-game that erroneously has air brakes equipped (I don't remember which). Will it be corrected? And what about the planes currently labeled in-game as the _"FP-3",_ _"AP-1",_ and _"U-2"?_ I'm pretty certain they're actually the F4F-3 Wildcat, TBF-1C Avenger, and Po-2 respectively.
there are friendly plane markers aka the blue triangle over their plane, also you could just get better at recognizing planes as planes aren't that hard to tell apart
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName They don't always display within the game world, and there should be an aircraft specific marker akin to the ground vehicle markers. They typically don't show up on the map/min-map, either.
Recognizing aircraft is easy, but at long range, it's a different matter.
I would personally suggest not slowing down to much in a dive. The rearming zone isn't that far and the more speed you have the faster you can bomb again. The bombs are still going to be very accurate, you just need to keep in mind that you need to pull up early enough. Also there will likely be enemy air occasionally and slowing down takes away most of your ability to defend yourself and makes you a sitting duck.
This is mostly from my moscow experience. With faster planes later on you might want to slow down more.
If allies are not spotting targets I found it to be useful to have a slightly less sharp angle on dives where you have to spot targets first. It allows for easier adjustments during the dive and gives a bit more time with how low you can get before having to pull up.
I just wish there was a way to see exactly where the bombs landed in the training map because it’s hard to tell if you hit where you wanted or not. Great video tho! Wonder what you will teach us next
as a warthunder player for years when I came to Enlisted back in the early access beta, I've committed mass devastation with bombs in this game, especially using the good old stuka
they must've changed something since the beta. I have 750h in War Thunder beeing a good bomber and attack plane and it works radically different in this game.
@@sergivega8291 feels like it works the same to me,if you are familiar to realistic ground forces in warthunder it's basically the same except you get in-air reloads, planes like the Ju 188 with it's 6x250kg bombs can be devastating, especially if you have a competent team who knows how to mark enemy tanks
Actually a solid guide 👍 Many nice tips.
A few extra:
Learn to use combat flaps its almost essentiel for dogfighting. Switch flaps on PC is default on key 2 and 1
When resuplying most planes should start u-turn 100m when nearing resuply to save time
Do not kamikaze. I believe bombs dropped after a kamikaze are made much less effective. (You get respawn time penality) (If your team has tickets its a waste of a ticket /life)
....and the controls for those of us console folks...?
I believe you can see what the controls are in the control option@@Shinzon23
me in a bf110 outturning a p38 by using landing flaps lol
@@Shinzon23 the controls for console are fine, you can always change them too.
150m still good
We still need specialized plane markers so it doesn't confuse the infantry
hm, that'll be pretty dope. Such as a square; etc?
Gives us back Quad-Flak, IT WAS OURS GIVE IT BACK
Some unorthodox techniques for a figher-bomber (works great for fighters but may not work for slow bombers):
1. High speed shallow dive. After hitting a resupply start diving at the center of the map and keep yout throttle at max. You want 450+ kmph at the bomb release point. The bomb doesn't fall behind your nose, you can achieve an extreme level of precision and you have a lot of energy for a dogfight above the battlefield after a drop. On the other hand, you won't have time to spot ground targets, so you better use it when there's a marked enemy tank/gun position/you know a location where'd be a lot of infantry
2. Low speed shallow dive. Everything mentioned above, but cut your throttle and aim at 300-350 kmph at the release point. The bomb will fall below your nose, but you'll have some of time for spotting tracers. Precision isn't as high as in method 1 and you are pretty vulnerable for enemy fighters
3. Everything mentioned in method 2 but instead dropping a bomb you do a low pass to spot stuff, find a place where you want to drop a bomb, than go vertical, wait until your speed drops below 300, extend your flaps, hold s to turn around, cut the throttle and bomb at the steep angle. Extended flaps and low speed will help you pull out of dive. This technique gives you a lot of spotting time, but hitting from a vertical dive is hard and it leaves you super vulnerable for enemy fighters/aaa fire
With little practice all these techniques will allow you to have a bomb dispersion less than 10-15 meters, while maintaining great situational awareness
So much info in just five minutes 👍
The main problem is that you need your teammates to mark enemies, which they seemingly refuse to do half the time
It is problematic when enemies use a lot of cover. Otherwise you can spot gunfire around the cap and target there. Unless you're using a 12 in screen...
If you need markers from allies then is better to spend more time playing infantry, once you properly know the map you can bomb and get 10+ kills for each travel easily.
People on ground are usually too busy being useful attacking and defending to have to spot for a newbie pilot as well.
You can mark vehicles yourself as pilot too. And you can fire your MG to vehicle for additional position check.
When is the new progression system Coming out?
One thing that I find really annoying about attack aircraft is the fact that the defences against other aircraft aren't really that effective. I mean sure there's a lot of fire power in attack aircraft, which is why I prefer them over five aircraft, seeing as they have less armament, but usually I get shot down when the enemy is usually attack from the below.
Needed this like 2 years ago lol but good vid
you can also mark as a plane to spot ennemy armored vehicules in case they move a kilometer or 2 before your attack.
....uh....no, no you can't. I've tried. PC player?
yes pc @@Shinzon23
you gotta be in range of the battlefield for it to work also
@RECarms_Galia not a thing for console players. Same with opening the comms wheel. Even with it hot keyed, no worky
@@Shinzon23 then it's bugging for you, whenever I played on console I never had any issues with the comms wheel or marking from air
This is a very nice tutorial, games like Battlefield need this kind of tutorial too for jets and helis.
ya those are nightmer to fly in BF, im allways amazed how WT controls is 10 times better then any other AAA game.
Don’t forget to look in the controls menu for the actual control info
Very helpful guide! Thank you :)
Someday it will be possible to use more than two planes and more than two tanks in combat?, and will it be possible to have the option of solo combat within a squad battle?
The devs have stated that they don't want to change the infantry/vehicle balance too much. It's unlikely that they'll ever let you bring more vehicles than now.
They MIGHT do something with the rider class, but I wouldn't expect too much from that.
@@Danjiano It's a shame because if you add more vehicles and planes, you remove more squads, leaving in combat alone, you add 40 vs 40 you enlarge the gray area you give way to more strategies and better experiences.. in the end with the squad they see you coming because they are behind and it's not that the bots do much.. the cyclists would be fine
@@Droom_YT being able to spawn as a single soldier instead of a squad literally defeats the purpose of squads, if you want to spawn as a single soldier go play lone fighters
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName It is where I play, there is more level, it is played better as a team, you live in combat in another way with more tension when being alone I mean that experience, with the squadrons they are cannon fodder. By this I don't mean that I'm upset, but it's a humble opinion.
@@Droom_YT once you learn how to control your ai they survive a lot longer,
hi there war thunder narrator. good to have you here to!
I needed this, thank you.
1:02 YEAH BUT THEY NEVER DO MARK
Dear Fox,
we Need DEV blog, I watched it three times
Nice tutorial except it doesn't work. Literally doing everything it says in the video and the vertical line is fine, but the bombs go horizontally wherever they please. I've been 35mins in the practice ground without two strikes in a row. My plane hates me :/
I am on pc and its hard to turn but I got this but idk how to air brake or keep the landing gear up OR the flaps what button do I press
They must add the realistic sound When hitting someone/body with the actual shot /bullet and bring back bullets penetrating wooden cabins/houses because there is alot of campers inside houses/cabins make buildings/cabin completely destructable thats realistic bring night time in with tracer rounds and that special tanks with blinding lights and infantry with lights make it very realistic difficult to see at night when fighting that cool must see tracers and guns firing only please just try it players will like it.
And don't let dead bodies dissappear they must stay there right through a battle.
Apprecitate that a game publisher made a video guide for their gamers how to play the game
Very helpful thank you :)
People are wishing for specialised markers for planes but I’m simply wishing that someone would actually mark targets for once. It’s not that hard to see spammed “need enemy coordinates”.
Remember kids: You can bomb effectively without marks, and targets don't appear out of thin air for infantry that are trying to survive to mark!
We just love it when the pilot constantly spams the communications with "Need Enemy Coordinates" instead of following the very obvious tracer rounds on the ground to see where the enemy is coming from, and calls the infantry actually trying to win the game by holding the point "idiots" or "retards"!
L take. The tracers can be very hard to see and infantry models draw distance is short. Having a mark will guarantee kills, and half the time, a squad wipe. And you dont have to circle 2 to 5 times trying to figure where people are.
More efficient and effective.
And as a certain CC said, bind your marks to LMB so you dont have to think twice marking.
Should add a control setup wizard for console so they can connect a keyboard and mouse to switch there gameplay Wise
wow this was helpful
is this the same voice actor for the war thunder channel?
It would be so useful if axis could have actual descent bombs instead of shitty 50kg on figthers
This is stupid late but once I hit an absolute clip on a very distant plane using anti tank guns
They forgot too mention another great method....kamikaze
Doesn't count as progress with plane if your bombs kill something after you die
@@Shinzon23 does for me
@@Shinzon23 plus...I do it only for tanks
@@WowJustWow100 suicide bombing is a waste of tickets and wastes a vehicle spot that someone who is actually good at it could be using, I've been suicide bombed so many times where the bombs did jack shit to my vehicle, you could just as easily go up to said tank with an anti tank soldier and kill it (don't use greyzone camping as an excuse not to I've had no issue killing greyzone tanks)
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName bro chill it's not that serious.....
well shit ive always dopped all my bombs, never thought of hold on to a few :P
eminem has been real quiet since this banger came out...
ENLISTED I REALLY LOVE YOUR GAME CAN YOU PLEASE ADD THE B-29 AMERICAN 4 ENGINE BOMBER TO THE GAME PLEAAASSEEE
And if you did can you add them to the store for America
Sincerely from SirOnTheBurger
This shit is hard
bombing is pretty easy , but i suck with rockets
and so they don't hear you turn off the engine
Actually, I flick off my engine so I can listen for enemy engine noise
People need a tutorial on how to press spacebar?
i suck at bombing so i play fighter to make the experienced bombers's life way harder
wont be dropping bombs effectively when ur tail is cut off
Fun fact: Press Z, I got it from the tips but always not guaranteed
Buff the bombs and rockets. German planes, huge bomb and rockets, direct impact.. no penetration.
チームバランス改善しろよ エアプ運営
I hate that rocket are bouncing off from tonks
Planes are so much easier in enlisted vs battlefield
How about giving us a functional bomb sight? Bit absurd that a actual bomber with a full up sight system still has me guessing exactly when and were to drop my bombs.
I am aware "dropping and hoping it lands within 4 blocks" was a real thing in WWII, but come on, if your ripping assets from War Thunder ( don't deny it, the XRAY cam is a massive sign) why couldn't you also rip the bomb reticle as well?
If the server were stable, only then would the game mechanics work
👍
Great job, but please nerf HVAR rockets, you will get killed even trough bunkers
gib dev blog!!!!
We Want Modern Jetss🗣️
Balllssss
What kind of bad ballance it is that M8 Rockets and HVAR One Hit Tigers hgahahaha
Oh man, when you discover that 75m guns could and did disabled Tigers on the war you are going to be surprised.
Stay mad wehraboo
@@grudgebearer1404 lol people act like tigers are supposed to be invincible lol, the rockets have more than enough penetration to go through the roof of a tiger, you can even pen the engine vent with an m5a1 lol
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName Sure the game is realstic hahahah it should be balanced like the rest
@@DontStealMyNoEffortName I wonder how pilots in real life spot the tank without teammate marks literally appear on the screen, lol.
The planes rockets are the only counter to grayzone camping Tigers. Free to play players shouldn't bother with the starter tanks and run the P-38 with rockets.
Nerf the P 47
P47 is balanced by the JU 188.
@@maineiacman Ah ys a fast Attack Plane with 10* Rockets 1* 500lp Bomb 8*12,7 mm Machine Guns is balanced by a slow Bober with 6*250kg Bombs and four Gunners that you have to unlock first.
The JU188 is a free paratrooper assaulter squad while also being a no fly zone with upgraded gunners. Just because you cant use it doesn't mean it doesn't have the same map wiping capacity.
@@maineiacman So is the A-20G-25
The A20-G25 with its .50 cals and 2 drops of 2 500Lb bombs are not even close to being the same thing as the JU188. Only way it would be better is if it was the Tunisia one with 12 rockets.
Dope
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