Don't Buy the HoTone Ampero Stomp - The Stage is KILLER

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 104

  • @villentretheimert7789
    @villentretheimert7789 6 месяцев назад +49

    For me, Stomp is actually perfect form-factor, as it sits on my desk. I'm not using footswitches as much, 3 scenes are plenty, and with midi controller, u can also switch multiple effects at once, so u can use scenes for rather changing parameters of amp/drive and have effects taken care of by controller. I'm using midi controller because of the fact, that this thing sits on desk, and it works perfectly as is, so having more scenes for me is useless, and not justifiable paying 2x for bigger device. And also it's really portable, it fits everywhere without any problems

    • @noonsound4894
      @noonsound4894 6 месяцев назад +3

      Totally agree. Twice the price for the stage in Australia. Not worth it.

    • @QuickSticks8771
      @QuickSticks8771 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@noonsound4894twice the price for every damn thing in Australia

    • @noonsound4894
      @noonsound4894 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@QuickSticks8771 yeah, sucks. 😊

    • @lucioblues
      @lucioblues 6 месяцев назад +4

      In Brazil almost twice the price too. And why didn't came with a expreesion pedal? This would be a improvement that could justify this increase of price.

    • @villentretheimert7789
      @villentretheimert7789 6 месяцев назад +3

      and if u want more switches as stage has, just get midi controller for 1/4 the price of stomp (ampero control for example) and u're good to go with mostly same functionality

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 6 месяцев назад +9

    A good tip I got from Steve Sterlacci regarding not having enough Snapshots/Scenes in a single Preset is simply to duplicate the Preset and put it following the Main Preset. This will effectively give you access to more Snapshots/Scenes, a different set of Effects if you like, and Parameters, just by switching between the 2 adjacent Presets with the press of a single button.

  • @williamperez3781
    @williamperez3781 5 месяцев назад +1

    I had Fractal, Helix, Tonex, and other stuff... I've never been so happy with a unit as I am with Ampero Stage. It's not as good as Fractal, some will say... At the same time, it's easy to get a good tone out of it and fun to use. I sold everything else I had! Awesome all-in-one solution. I wish I could see more Ampero content on your channel. I bought it after watching your review! :)

  • @EbbeHundborg
    @EbbeHundborg 6 месяцев назад +2

    I bought a Stage after watching your previous video (you can tell that to Hotone if you want them to enorse you :D ), and yesterday I used it for my first Church gig - and it was quite awesome. The other guys really loved the sound. So thanx... Please post more videos on creating tones - I think you are an AWESOME player and you really have a gift for creating nice tones!

  • @22duke
    @22duke 6 месяцев назад +2

    I returned the Ampero Mini the other day, and got the Stage II instead. I was actually determined to buy either the Fractal FM3 or the FM9.
    But as my guitar skills is approximately on level-1, maybe 2 🥴
    I couldn’t justify the high price for the Fractal models.
    For the price. The Ampero Stage II just kills it, and fulfills my wildest beginner stage guitar dreams, with lush sounds. And it’s so god damn user friendly 🤘

    • @j.sherwoodowl4826
      @j.sherwoodowl4826 6 месяцев назад +2

      I think that's a good move. I tried all the big name modellers and the Ampero sounds best to me, esp when using your own IRs. The openess and dynamics are better and the effects, specifically the spring reverb are also better. That seems to be the mark for me: if the spring reverb sounds good, it's a measure of how great everything else will be.

  • @alrangelal
    @alrangelal 6 месяцев назад

    I gig my Stomp. It made me streamline my setups to stop my tap dancing, which can be distracting when you're singing as well. With scenes it will be even simpler.
    I used to put a Reverb/Delay and a Boost on the FX Loop to save in DSP, but now I only have a Digitech Drop pedal in the front and it's the most satisfied I've felt with a pedalboard. Not crazy fun, but easy fun.

  • @dd2222h-rz7ge
    @dd2222h-rz7ge 5 месяцев назад +1

    If your screen breaks in the middle of a tour, you'll be grateful to have other options for editing. Regarding the phone, you can keep it handy, at a certain height (for example, hooked to the microphone stand) and control effects without having to use switches, in case they are occupied or 100% in looper mode.
    btw sorry for my English, it's clear that I'm Spanish.

  • @chrisgmurray3622
    @chrisgmurray3622 6 месяцев назад +2

    That intro tone was cool, but a bit unforgiving in the high end, ( not the amp's fault, it's just rendering the sound of the guitar), whereas usually the actual inefficiencies and non linear parts of most tube -amps actually screen those harsh edges out. It was like "no-where to hide" similar , maybe to some smaller-bodied Martin acoustics that you have to play so cleanly and dynamically because they amplify even the smallest touch of the flesh, but wasn't a problem... All in a days work for JNC!!👍

  • @adriansoul7223
    @adriansoul7223 6 месяцев назад

    Glad to hear you also have this uncontrollable hiss and its not just me.

  • @fredriksandegren1948
    @fredriksandegren1948 6 месяцев назад

    I think that the Ampero II is perfect for the ones who doesn't need to reckord their own rig!
    I have a Valeton and Hotone is the same company (sort of). I"m really interested in this effect processor, seems like a good deal we talking money....

  • @occamseraser
    @occamseraser 6 месяцев назад +3

    Nice slippers man they look comfy.

  • @danielgreenberg4751
    @danielgreenberg4751 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful playing.

  • @DrThornton1
    @DrThornton1 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey John, long time subscriber to your channel and absolutely love your content and how you educate. I've gotten a lot of different equipment over the years based on your recommendations. Just recently purchased the Ampero 2 Stage and have seen some great demonstrations. I saw you do a "FREEZE" setting video for the stomp. But your hand covered a lot of the screen presses when you were demonstrating how to set it up. Could you PLEASE do a start to finish setup for the Ambient Freeze on the Stage???

  • @DylanODonnell
    @DylanODonnell 6 месяцев назад +4

    Bit of buzz in the last couple vids.. any idea where it's coming from? Wish I could afford the Stage... I'm really digging the stomp.

    • @electrolinks
      @electrolinks Месяц назад

      I have this buzz on mine too. I think theres an issue with the ground on the power supplies?

  • @beenay18
    @beenay18 3 месяца назад

    Only plus points - bigger screen and more buttons. Sounds, processing power, firmware in the same.

  • @werner77wda
    @werner77wda 6 месяцев назад

    This humming in your playing with single coil pickup I can also hear with my unit. Gets a little better with a gate, though I loose some dynamics. Have to find a sweet spot

  • @riklionheart23
    @riklionheart23 6 месяцев назад +1

    Top JNC tip: extra Moccasin tone 😎

  • @SamuelIrias
    @SamuelIrias 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think no that beginning demo/jam sesh there was some electrical buzzing from the stage. From an earlier video of yours I saw it was and issue for the stomp unit.

    • @joellebrodeur1015
      @joellebrodeur1015 6 месяцев назад +1

      You heard that, too? Same. I have the Stage (newly acquired) and there is buzzing. BUT, my house wiring is garbage and nearly every piece of kit I own hums. Outside the house rheyre silent. It may be his house and not using a power conditioner to squelch those issues.

    • @TheDarkEthereal
      @TheDarkEthereal 6 месяцев назад

      Same problem here and it's not the unit. Have a Valeton GP200 with the exact same buzzing noise.

    • @christopherjbutler
      @christopherjbutler 6 месяцев назад

      John has mentioned to me that there is worse buzzing in his house at a certain time of the day, he was theorizing that it might have something to do with the solar panel system on his house, it is usually toward the evening If I remember correctly so I was suggesting if it corresponded with when the street lamps in his neighborhood come on at sundown. Never really followed up on that. I have a 50's era house that had old two prong wiring which at some point was supplemented with new 3 wire romex grounded circuits, and I have found that the old receptacles with the old two wire runs were replaced with grounded outlets with their ground wires kind of stolen from the newer circuit runs, with junction boxes where individual ground wires go to the old receptacles all wire nutted to the ground coming from one of the new romex circuits.
      In my house, on many circuits, I can use my guitar and say a NUX Mighty Plug Pro headphone modeler with no buzz when I take my hands off the strings, if I use the headphone output and run that to a JBL Xtreme speaker line in jack, and it is running on batteries, same thing, no buzz. Plug the JBL into the mains power and buzz is over the top. Same thing running that headphone modeler into the line in on my blackstar fly 3 practice amp. Batteries no problem. Plug it in and buzz city.
      I knew there must be something inducing noise on the neutral or something because the jbl power supply is a non polarized AC plug on the mains side.
      I think the fact that the path to ground and the path to the neutral at the breaker box are different lengths for those spliced in grounds and a single path to ground is probably being shared across possibly multiple circuits / breakers is causing the issue. I am not great with understanding ground loops even within the same rack of gear much less the whole house, so for now, I have a pair of 20 amp dedicated home run circuits feeding the bedroom I renovated as my new studio room. The issue is still there but greatly reduced for any gear that has a 3 prong power plug and somewhat reduced otherwise.
      This stuff is maddening to deal with and old houses are tough or expensive as hell to fix.

  • @charlydaytona
    @charlydaytona 6 месяцев назад +2

    So.. I saw your previous Stage II review and thought .. excellent.. finally a really nice quick and easy interface. So I bought one to try. I’m used to the Helix/Stomp.
    So far I’m noticing that the actual effects side of the Hotone is more limited than the HX stomp. Eg no bitcrusher, proper octave fuzz,limited granular control of effect parameters.
    I’m still testing but ideally I’d like to replace the HX stomp with the Stage II but not sure yet.
    Have you found similar? are there ways to make comparable to the HX Stomp in terms of effects?
    Love both boxes and thank you for the reviews.

    • @joellebrodeur1015
      @joellebrodeur1015 6 месяцев назад +1

      There is likely more firmware updates coming. Hotone Stage is on firmware version 1.0.4. My unit shipped with 1.0.3, so first thing I did upon receipt was update the firmware.

  • @sherwinS_13
    @sherwinS_13 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gonna purchase the Stage!

  • @koyor4393
    @koyor4393 6 месяцев назад +2

    How did you know I was considering these two😂😂

  • @matibrandrock
    @matibrandrock 4 дня назад

    How are the sounds compared to the helix?

  • @VertigoGTI
    @VertigoGTI Месяц назад

    After trying both, I prefer the Stomp. The Stage’s screen isn’t really that much larger and no additional processing power makes justifying the $200 USD difficult.
    The separate tuner/looper switches and LED meter on the side take up real estate for a larger screen. With the software update, the tuner/looper long press issue is resolved, so the switches are kind of unnecessary.

  • @simaojoseph
    @simaojoseph Месяц назад

    The XLR connection glorification is one that came too late. Nowadays it seems like it’s one hell of a sales pitch but it actually came too late. Balanced jacks are perfectly fine nowadays. The balancing has nothing to do with the type of plug. As a matter of fact the canon X plug was once used for speaker connection, somewhere in the late 70s/80s and it has been rejected in favor of the jack because this one offers a more reliable connection. Independently of the balancing form, most modern stage boxes can handle the signal from these devices without noise issues.

  • @david_farmer
    @david_farmer 6 месяцев назад +1

    I should've listened to that little voice in my head saying wait on the firmware update to my Stomp. It all appeared to go well and it boots into the new display, but everything is frozen. I've rebooted it a dozen times, and unplugged USB. The app can't find it (USB connected of course), and it's unresponsive. I hope it's not bricked but it's certainly not usable in this state.

  • @jamesbennettmusic2154
    @jamesbennettmusic2154 6 месяцев назад +2

    The Stage is cheaper than the HX Stomp, whereas (Ampero) Stomp is half the price of the HX Stomp. They’re different budgets / sizes, so would personally recommend either.

  • @moroboshidan7960
    @moroboshidan7960 6 месяцев назад

    It's as Yngwie would say: "MORE IS MORE".

  • @Andrew-Hood
    @Andrew-Hood 6 месяцев назад +2

    I really enjoy watching your video and your playing is really amazing. Thank you

  • @chinnyhowie
    @chinnyhowie 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome playing! And love the tones! Could you share the preset?

  • @sojaded
    @sojaded Месяц назад

    Will it do the drop tune thing? Just need half a step! Ticks all my boxes otherwise.

  • @TheElrondo
    @TheElrondo 5 месяцев назад

    I own the Stomp II and was thinking of an upgrade to Stage.
    But i think it's not worth the money for my needs.
    And i was wondering why so many Stage Stomps are flooding the used market right now?

  • @rahovalce
    @rahovalce Месяц назад

    I know it is not the same, but, what would you prefer of any of this ampero II against the new nanocortex? In terms of price i dont a big difference

  • @worthmoremusic
    @worthmoremusic 6 месяцев назад +3

    Been debating whether to get the Hotone Ampero Stage or the Line 6 Pod Go.... can't decide. As always John, I love your playing !

    • @filtermat
      @filtermat 6 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve already the Pod Go, it’s a great unit but I think I will get the Stage too because of the extra features and higher number of effects on the chain

    • @jworks6320
      @jworks6320 6 месяцев назад +4

      Same, my stage 2 will arrive soon, I will let you know which is better

    • @worthmoremusic
      @worthmoremusic 6 месяцев назад

      @@jworks6320 It's not really about which is better..in my opinion anyway cause it's all quite subjective...it's more about does it meet your requirements...does what you want it to do..etc. Looking forward to your review.

    • @whanjos100
      @whanjos100 6 месяцев назад

      I've had Ampero II Stomp, and I now use a Headrush Mx5. Way better (built and sounds).

    • @swardmusic
      @swardmusic 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@whanjos100 really? Better fwel under hands? Were u a tube amp player?

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar 6 месяцев назад +2

    Please demo a Mooer GE300 if you can.

  • @igorhenrique835
    @igorhenrique835 6 месяцев назад +1

    13:34 WOW bro…

  • @MrNameless0shelter
    @MrNameless0shelter 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi John, what is your experience on srtting up hotone stomp ii with your own pedal board in four cable method? I tried setting up fx loop and with my board, ocd doesnot drive the same as the real amp, reverb (big Sky) does not sound that full either...how would i tweek it? Thanks a lot

  • @MrAntpre
    @MrAntpre 6 месяцев назад

    John, tks for the video. Did u check the lattest ampero 2 stomp firmware update... It would change the title if this video or will it not ? Interested in your opinion on this. But now they are almost on par with a few footswitches missing.

  • @10sassafras
    @10sassafras 6 месяцев назад

    I’ve just come here after listening to Robben Ford’s tone on TPS. Sorry, but it kinda reminded me how far modelling still has to go.

    • @BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender
      @BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender 6 месяцев назад +1

      Keep in mind, those were room mics in a very loud and acoustically catered room, where as john is going direct. I gig with moddelling and real amps all the time, 2 of the biggest tone factors is volume and the room

  • @thomaswhudson
    @thomaswhudson 6 месяцев назад

    What are your thoughts on this vs Line 6 stuff? Effects and amps good, better, best vs Line 6? Also for the money what is better do you think? I am looking for a multi effects, I am using tonex so I would just blend whatever I get but these seem really neat and Line 6 has their prices in the damn sky right now. Thoughts?

  • @jowen1096
    @jowen1096 6 месяцев назад

    Have you ever tried headphones out into a portable bluetooth or normal home speaker before? Just curious how that would sound as a practice set up when traveling. I used to bring my laptop with bias fx, and a cheap little speaker from walmart, or just plug into my car aux input when we'd take vacations and sounded just fine. Was wondering how it would work from a multi fx unit.

  • @TheAcoustic356
    @TheAcoustic356 4 месяца назад

    I checked your page but don't see the Ampero Stage presets... when will add them?

  • @AlainChatignon
    @AlainChatignon 6 месяцев назад

    Hello John, Are you going to update your Presets created for the Stomp, so that they are compatible with the Stage

  • @CiuciumisLuci
    @CiuciumisLuci 6 месяцев назад

    But between ampero stage and hx stomp or stomp xl? Which is better for you?

  • @macmusica
    @macmusica 6 месяцев назад

    The thought croseed my mind in looking at how I only may use the LINE6 Toneport UX2 for Vocals & Acoustic mics. However, does the STAGE have any good Mic PRE-AMP FX which the LINE6 does a good job of as you can Send Out with FX after to listen without latency even though all you may add on top of DRY to MONITOR is Reverb & Delay. It just avoids PC DSP and is a handy Audio Interface.
    Did you try Vocal Recording then?

  • @queeffersthrlnd1620
    @queeffersthrlnd1620 6 месяцев назад

    is this worth getting over the hx stomp xl?

  • @betoalvarez1248
    @betoalvarez1248 6 месяцев назад

    Hey John! I have my stage for two months now, im having issues on how harsh or bright this unit is. Had to cut top end on the global eq and use eqs on my chain, still there im finding to bright every drive, and also tone control on most drives does not respond well. Any advices?

  • @heycisco
    @heycisco 6 месяцев назад

    I love the unit. If I had to mention one fault it would be the pitch and harmonic effects, which are unusable. The engineers should be embarrassed to release a product that bad on a platform that is so good.

  • @g.e.a.2569
    @g.e.a.2569 6 месяцев назад

    The hotone ampero 2 stage or the mooer ge 300 lite?

  • @RafaelSanchez-s3f
    @RafaelSanchez-s3f 6 месяцев назад +1

    More functionality, but no more DSP!!! I could not justify the price just for that!!!!

  • @joellebrodeur1015
    @joellebrodeur1015 6 месяцев назад

    I'm very new to Stage. I got it Thursday and a bit overwhelmed by it. With the looper, does this unit retain loops recorded or does it erase when the unit is turned off?

  • @werner77wda
    @werner77wda 6 месяцев назад +1

    I wish I could hear sound difference between them

    • @oscarm4154
      @oscarm4154 5 месяцев назад +1

      Its the same

  • @jeale778
    @jeale778 6 месяцев назад

    Hi John: Do you have any strat guitar with H-S-S configuration?

    • @christopherjbutler
      @christopherjbutler 6 месяцев назад

      John just recently got a Yamaha Pacifica Professional which he did a video on 7 days ago. He really liked it, but he generally uses the coil split on the humbucker anyway.

  • @JRP3music
    @JRP3music 6 месяцев назад

    I rather have the stomp for the stereo loop and fx only.

  • @adriansoul7223
    @adriansoul7223 6 месяцев назад

    Did they fix the editor crashing?

  • @imri2541
    @imri2541 6 месяцев назад

    HX Stomp xl or the Hotone ampero stage? I think they are priced the same, both got 8 footswiches, the ampero has better UI with the touch screen, and the xlr input, but the line 6 is still better in my opinion, it's hard to beat the time that the line 6 stomp is existing, all the updates and the expirience of line 6 with modeling and the expirience of line 6's community.
    what do you think? for gigging and in general

    • @jnixo9900
      @jnixo9900 6 месяцев назад +1

      hx stomp xl. touch screen and bigger screens i think are an issue if using it live. Easy to damage.

    • @joethrelfall6370
      @joethrelfall6370 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thing is, if you go down the route of the other competitors is there a risk of not getting regular updates. You get that with the line 6 stuff.

    • @johnong2655
      @johnong2655 6 месяцев назад

      ampero stage has ground lift. Useful sometimes. Can go without a DI box. However, in general touch screen devices are slightly hotter in temperature.

  • @MySuperAnt
    @MySuperAnt 6 месяцев назад

    Chances of a review of the mini? Oops answered in the video.

  • @electrolinks
    @electrolinks Месяц назад

    Can hear the buzz issue I also have with mine 1:25

    • @Quetange
      @Quetange 10 дней назад

      Heard that too. Wonder If a noise gate pedal can solve that.

  • @Slayer10000
    @Slayer10000 6 месяцев назад

    Hotone Ampero 2 Stomp is on the money, Hotone Ampero 2 Stage is overkill.

  • @oscarm4154
    @oscarm4154 5 месяцев назад

    For me Stomp...way better size and the most important Thing....the sound...well its the same

  • @post-man23
    @post-man23 6 месяцев назад +1

    HoTone? Now I know how to pronounce correctly.

    • @pskim1282
      @pskim1282 6 месяцев назад +1

      hot one haha

  • @krissmith2396
    @krissmith2396 Месяц назад

    Stomp is better. It Has working midi in and out. The stage ii does not. I'd buy one but the haigh gain amps sound subpar. All the effects are outstanding and better than my kemper player cept the high gain amps sound like toy amps. If ampero could make a stomp or stage with capture it would be all over for the big boy companies imho

    • @transmundanemusic
      @transmundanemusic 10 дней назад

      Pretty sure both do capture now.

    • @Quetange
      @Quetange 10 дней назад

      @@transmundanemusiconly the stage has received capture so far.

  • @danielmelendez5938
    @danielmelendez5938 6 месяцев назад

    The topic must be , “I wouldn’t because etc etc “ no “Don’t buy” … it s the same product with the same quality , the difference is in the amount of footswitch 😉

    • @shanedinh4759
      @shanedinh4759 6 месяцев назад +1

      The stage has a bigger screen and does 5 scenes compared to the stomp’s 3 scenes.

    • @danielmelendez5938
      @danielmelendez5938 6 месяцев назад

      exactly ! More scenes and big screen. Both are amazing

  • @mehegama
    @mehegama 6 месяцев назад +6

    the single coil buzz is awful, destroys the performance

  • @TheCyberMantis
    @TheCyberMantis 6 месяцев назад +1

    Oh look... another "made in China" guitar computer.

    • @handyc77
      @handyc77 6 месяцев назад

      What does this even mean? Is this a political issue for you? Because this is a channel about guitars and effects we enjoy. Just because you’re bitter or need to condescend at such a trivial subject. Get out of the bedroom and go fight China!

    • @borasumer
      @borasumer 5 месяцев назад +1

      Show me one that is not made in China...

    • @TheCyberMantis
      @TheCyberMantis 5 месяцев назад

      @@borasumer Oddly enough, the Boss Katana is not made in China. Japan design, made in Malaysia.