WHICH AMPERO IS BETTER?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024

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  • @michaelbusuttil363
    @michaelbusuttil363 6 месяцев назад +10

    Got the Ampero Mini in Vanilla. Love it. The amp and cab sims soung great to me.

  • @flashingit
    @flashingit 6 месяцев назад +20

    I brought my Ampero II stage about a month ago. Awesome gear at a great price.

  • @joutynathan4168
    @joutynathan4168 6 месяцев назад +7

    I like my ampero mini ! I sometimes use it for cleans, but I now primarily use it as a multi-effect, or as my amp when I go on vacation

    • @lucianomateus351
      @lucianomateus351 5 месяцев назад +2

      I like Mine too. It's Very usefull to insert any effect at the pedalboard (guitar and also Bass).

  • @LegendarySnomann
    @LegendarySnomann 6 месяцев назад +4

    The stage 2 is the first multi effect unit that don’t make me think “ill just take my pedalboard because it’s easier” I love it so far

  • @JTB--
    @JTB-- 6 месяцев назад +8

    I've had the Stage II since right when it came out and it's excellent. I have a PRS Custom Piezo and go into Both Inputs to get really creative.
    Besides sounding good, I appreciate the Mic ability on the unit, the Looper AND Drum Machine. The Stage II really offers the Kitchen Sink

    • @bennyhill1105
      @bennyhill1105 6 месяцев назад +2

      I wish someone would do a video for the Mic/Guitar

    • @mangoesDB
      @mangoesDB 5 месяцев назад

      @@bennyhill1105 I have the stage and use it for guitar and mic. Mic sounds great

  • @ManuSDP
    @ManuSDP 6 месяцев назад +19

    Have had the OG Ampero for about 5 years now. Did and still do overseas or international gigs/tours with it and it holds up.
    Necessary to couple it with a good poweramp to use it with a cab and it never let me down.
    Maybe one day I will upgrade, but I’m happy with the old boy

    • @jaialaiwarrior
      @jaialaiwarrior 5 месяцев назад

      Can you just use a traditional head as the power amp into the amp's FX return?

    • @ManuSDP
      @ManuSDP 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@jaialaiwarrior yessir

  • @joebowbeer
    @joebowbeer 6 месяцев назад +3

    Ampero Mini sounds great in a low-power, intuitive, small form-factor pedal. I use a Xsonic AirSTEP (USB MIDI host) and an expression pedal for full control.

  • @iloveitall
    @iloveitall 6 месяцев назад +9

    The video we have been waiting for. Thank you!

  • @jordanprysmiki5361
    @jordanprysmiki5361 6 месяцев назад +4

    My ampero stomp 2 sounds amazing and has me playing more guitar in general.
    I get by without scenes. It's the best bang for your buck full stop.

  • @johngudgeon7454
    @johngudgeon7454 5 месяцев назад +6

    The Ampero Stomp II has just had a firmware upgrade so the unit now offers scenes (Same as the Stage but not as many)
    Hotone has also drastically altered the GUI.
    I'm not sure whether that's an improvement or not as I have yet to go through the Firmware update. (They always make me nervous)
    I will say that I bought and sold the full fat Helix twice before finally deciding that the Stomp II was much easier to drive at a fraction of the cost...

  • @joellebrodeur1015
    @joellebrodeur1015 6 месяцев назад +5

    I just got the Mini over the weekend to try out. For $170 from AliExpress, why not. Had the Mooer (hated it), Nux MG30 (too much shit to edit), Zoom G6 (too cumbersome) and G2x Four (not great and limited DSP and effects).
    I'm hoping I don't continue the string of gear that I keep flipping. I am curious about the Stage version.

    • @coppulor6500
      @coppulor6500 20 дней назад

      do you still have it/like it?

  • @CL_Audio_Tuning
    @CL_Audio_Tuning 6 месяцев назад +5

    I wonder if you set the 1st preset identically in all 3 devices, THEN, what would the difference be!? Using the exact same effects, settings, and amp, etc.

  • @JS-vz4je
    @JS-vz4je 28 дней назад

    great demo.. you played a great and fitting variety to each tone

  • @whazpoppin
    @whazpoppin 6 месяцев назад +5

    I got the 2 stomp for over a year and i love it. I‘ve tried the hx Stomp but the ui is an absolute nightmare ✌🏼

  • @kennethdarlington
    @kennethdarlington 6 месяцев назад +10

    My understanding before watching the video based on my research:
    Stomp mini - basically a regular Hotone Ampero in the formfactor of shrinked Ampero Stomp.
    Ampero Stomp - top of the Ampero current lineup in terms of sound. Better (than regular Ampero and Stomp mini) modeling, better IR etc.
    Ampero Stage - basically Ampero Stomp with extended IO, more knobs etc.

    • @gabrielrangel956
      @gabrielrangel956 5 месяцев назад +2

      Stage has scenes, wireless capabilities, a drum machine and some added on vocal effects

    • @RafaelSanchez-s3f
      @RafaelSanchez-s3f 5 месяцев назад

      @@gabrielrangel956 but no more DSP and the cab suite is not as tweakable as the line 6 stomp

    • @gabrielrangel956
      @gabrielrangel956 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@RafaelSanchez-s3f it has much more DSP than the HX Stomp tho and the cab problem can be easily fixed by using an IR. For me, the biggest advantage the HX Stomp has over the Ampero Stage/Stomp are the pitch/octave/harmony effects
      Scenes and the drum machine have been added to the Ampero Stomp as of the lastest patch, which was last week

    • @BezuMusician
      @BezuMusician 3 месяца назад

      @@gabrielrangel956 So is it worth selling off the HX Stomp and buying the Ampero II Stage in your view just for home playing and practice? I don't play live. :)

    • @stefandiedrich878
      @stefandiedrich878 2 месяца назад

      @@gabrielrangel956 The Stomp now has scenes too. There has been a firmware update! Regards

  • @CharLessMajor7Music
    @CharLessMajor7Music 6 месяцев назад +2

    I dont know with other models but I have the mini and what I don’t like about it is if you want to use it just a multi-fx and let’s say it’s bypassed or not engaged, the clean signal is kinda slightly tweaked EQ wise, going thru this unit makes the low end of your clean signal lesser. It’s not transparent when bypassed. It’s not drastic but it’s a thing to consider.

    • @joebowbeer
      @joebowbeer 6 месяцев назад

      How are you bypassing? Tuner in bypass mode is a clean bypass, right?

    • @CharLessMajor7Music
      @CharLessMajor7Music 6 месяцев назад

      @@joebowbeer i turn off everything, cabs, amps, fx, everything inside the ampero mini.

    • @joebowbeer
      @joebowbeer 6 месяцев назад

      @@CharLessMajor7Music AFAICT, Tuner in Bypass mode is clean.

    • @CharLessMajor7Music
      @CharLessMajor7Music 6 месяцев назад

      @@joebowbeer yea but in live scenario where your ampero mini is on stand by for modulation fx use, putting it on tuner mode isn’t proper for fx switching. Anyway, it’s going to be clean but there is a slight low frequency scoop that I’m hearing as soon as you plug anything to ampero mini.

  • @Renato_Cara
    @Renato_Cara 6 месяцев назад

    Very tasty riffs in the outro song. Nice video. I just wished you tested more the dynamic of the volume with some crunch gain settings. How it cleans out in lower volumes. This is the thing that for me differentiate good modellers from bad ones.

  • @Tone-Quest
    @Tone-Quest 6 месяцев назад

    HP, excellent video…as always. I enjoy the super detailed comparison. If the opportunity should ever present itself, I’d love to know your thoughts on the Valeton GP-200. I believe the software and/or sounds are licensed from Hotone.

  • @Civic.
    @Civic. 5 месяцев назад +2

    Until this video I was confused why they would still sell the old one but seeing the size in this video in comparison, it makes me wonder what it's like as just an effects modeller if you don't need amp modelling? It seems like a great form factor and price for that kind of thing if the effects sound good.

  • @johngudgeon7454
    @johngudgeon7454 5 месяцев назад +1

    Aand, I'll stick with the Stomp as I have external pre-amp/drive pedals before it and alternative external delays in the loops and afterwards.
    Pedalboard real estate is expensive.

  • @Proganaut1989
    @Proganaut1989 2 месяца назад

    Side note Ampero II stomp also does an input two for an acoustic if you want or a separate guitarist

  • @dominicgibson9529
    @dominicgibson9529 6 месяцев назад +2

    I assume you can ditch the amps so you can use it as a mini multi-effects unit, which is how I am thinking of using this.

    • @TheFrozenDesert
      @TheFrozenDesert 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's how I use it. One Tonex into the input. A second Tonex into the F/X return. Totally independent F/X chains. Enjoy.

  • @patrickpierson6079
    @patrickpierson6079 6 месяцев назад

    Hi
    Super Video🤘👍🎸
    Ich persönlich würde immer gerne wissen wie groß die Pause beim Presetwechsel ist. Gerne wenn es keine snapshots gibt.
    Cool wäre es wenn du einfach einen Akkord hälst und dann Mal so ein paar Presets rauf und runter schaltet... Aber gut. Bin anscheinend der einzige den das interessiert. Finde ich live halt irre wichtig.
    Prinzipiell finde ich sehr geil wir du immer Mal kurz ein Preset anspielst und dann sofort den richtigen Stil dafür parat hast und entsprechende Licks spielst. Richtig cool. 👍🤘🎸

  • @equinoxpete
    @equinoxpete 3 месяца назад

    I actually thought the Mini had better sounding presets. Nice playing. That's the one that I went with. Really great demo with the presets.

  • @VMinoda
    @VMinoda 4 месяца назад

    got a mini from Thomann for 160 on a sale a couple of months ago. for this price it is unbeatable

  • @kaindog1007
    @kaindog1007 3 месяца назад

    I have the Stomp 2 and added the Switch for $41 Aussie. So for not much money it’s upgraded to 5 switching options.

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 6 месяцев назад +1

    The cheapo/old one comes in 70th anniversary edition for 179 WITH foot thingy.

  • @jcugnoni
    @jcugnoni 6 месяцев назад +1

    I own the OG Ampero since a few years and Hotone did a great job (albeit a bit slow) to push updates (feature added + new amps etc). The sound quality is still really good with a good IR of your choice. The cab modeling is not as good as the Ampero Gen 2 but remains ok. Running the Ampero into a good power amp make it sound pretty close to the real deal. I did quite a bit of AB tests with Synergy (Friedman, SLO, Engl, IIcp) and other DIY tube preamps (Bogner XTC) and the Amperon sounds 99% there (albeit with slightly different EQ settings than the original amp). Biggest drawback: the presets are way to wet. My advice for this unit are 1. Load a couple of IR that you like. Adapt the Global EQ if needed. 2. Don't use the presets, start from a simple Amp + Cab/IR setup and add FX progressivelly. (This applies to most modelers by the way...)

    • @estuaic1
      @estuaic1 6 месяцев назад

      Except for the IR stuff, this is the same advice I got for every multi fx since my zoom 3030. EVERY manufacturer go for wow tones rather than useable I guess.
      Biggest drawback: the presets are way to wet. My advice for this unit are 1. Load a couple of IR that you like. Adapt the Global EQ if needed. 2. Don't use the presets, start from a simple Amp + Cab/IR setup and add FX progressivelly. (This applies to most modelers by the way...)

  • @s2apples207
    @s2apples207 26 дней назад

    Certyainly more confused than before, but for a positive reason :D, thanks for the video. Do you have any feedback on using ampero stage for voice?

  • @steveclark9934
    @steveclark9934 5 месяцев назад +1

    Well after today's major update it looks like this topic will have to be Revisited already❤😂

  • @kellecetraro4807
    @kellecetraro4807 5 месяцев назад +3

    This was a great video ✨🙏🏼🤘🏼

  • @ensoniq2k
    @ensoniq2k 5 месяцев назад

    I would've loved to buy an Ampero Mini, but at the price Thomann is offering the 70th Aniversary Ampero Silver I just had to buy two. One for gigs and one for practicing at home. Both together are still cheaper than the Zoom G9.2tt I bought 15 years ago. Too bad the Line 6 Pod is still stuck in 2007 with no update.

  • @Diijkstra
    @Diijkstra Месяц назад

    what I like about this is it's so minimalistic.

  • @LofiandChilloutMusic
    @LofiandChilloutMusic 4 месяца назад

    Awesome presentation , entertaining , informative and amusing

  • @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist
    @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist 6 месяцев назад +1

    I had the first AMpero (80?) here and found it too boxy sounding, Had the Ampero Stomp here, liked it but without external IRs i found it to brittle in many ways. The new Ampero Stage: that is a whole different thing, great sounds from the get go. And they are even getting better using External IRs (or the included Celestion ones). Not to mention the Layout and usability which is a dream. The Stage will stay with me for the next years for sure! Needed to go (back) was for example NUX MG30 + 400, NUX Trident (worst i've ever heard!), ToneX, Flamma FX200, Valeton GP200, Kemper Player, Boss GX100, Boss GT1000, Headrush Gigboard + Prime and so on and on.................................

    • @davidjeremiahb.salvacion1360
      @davidjeremiahb.salvacion1360 6 месяцев назад

      Hello having thoughts on whether to buy the ampero mini, nux mg-30 or valeton gp-200. Which do you think is best considering that I'm going to build on it with external drives and that i only care most for the sound quality?

    • @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist
      @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist 6 месяцев назад

      @@davidjeremiahb.salvacion1360 Invest in the Ampero Stage! If not take the GP200.

  • @wujBat
    @wujBat 2 месяца назад

    Great comparison!

  • @Dark0ne2099
    @Dark0ne2099 6 месяцев назад

    No cab mode is not on the helix but... It had extensive outputs and you can just turn the cab off anyway :)

  • @krailanuar
    @krailanuar 5 месяцев назад

    Different processor n stage best one if comparison with my Hotone Ampero One

  • @werner77wda
    @werner77wda 5 месяцев назад +2

    26:30 We should do a blind test to clear that up.

  • @svenandresen6494
    @svenandresen6494 6 месяцев назад +1

    i would love if you do a review about the St. Rock Amperium .... please please please :)

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  6 месяцев назад +1

      tell them that

    • @svenandresen6494
      @svenandresen6494 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@EytschPi42 i did but nothing happens 😮‍💨

  • @christoffertornquist3373
    @christoffertornquist3373 4 месяца назад

    is the stage worth it just for home recording? Thing will just sit on a desk. Also comparing this with a HX stomp. I know there might not be a right answer but just trying to gather as much information before any purchase.

  • @samsara107
    @samsara107 6 месяцев назад

    I got my Ampero Mini from star music in France. 199 and free shipping to Germany, or maybe 5€ shipping, I'm not sure. But definitely cheaper than Thomam and all colors available.

  • @MauricioGarcia-mk5bz
    @MauricioGarcia-mk5bz 6 месяцев назад +1

    Real question…..would you go out on stage with this unit? If you are touring would you consider this as your main unit???

    • @uweborsch1946
      @uweborsch1946 6 месяцев назад

      Not at all.

    • @hemordroidnz7908
      @hemordroidnz7908 5 месяцев назад +2

      Ive gigged with the mini and had zero issues. Sounded great stereo out to 2 amps , plenty of head room

    • @coppulor6500
      @coppulor6500 20 дней назад

      @@uweborsch1946 why not?

  • @hajienav
    @hajienav 6 месяцев назад

    Hi, Great video, thanks!
    Thomann now sell the silver addition of the Ampero for 179 Euro. Would you say it is a good alternative to the mini, for those of us on a limited budget?

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  6 месяцев назад +2

      same thing as the mini, but bigger

    • @ernest6831
      @ernest6831 6 месяцев назад

      Mini doesnt have on/off switch. For me that is a big difference :) Really.

    • @john_enx
      @john_enx 6 месяцев назад

      Somewhere I read it has like 6-7ms latency and it stooped me from buying it.

    • @ernest6831
      @ernest6831 6 месяцев назад

      @@john_enx not true. Buy the bigger one - its a bargain

  • @ΘανάσηςΔημητρίου-ξ8χ
    @ΘανάσηςΔημητρίου-ξ8χ 4 месяца назад

    for violin the ampero mini effects, octave, chorus, delay, repeat and equalizer are good?

  • @Matvey_Arkhipov
    @Matvey_Arkhipov 5 месяцев назад

    Gentlemen, I need your opinions. I have ampero one, it works well for me. But... Should I upgrade to next generation of ampero?

  • @nuaz55
    @nuaz55 2 месяца назад

    Is there a way to eliminate the bypass feature on the stomp ii. If you double tap any of the three buttons on the bottom. the unit goes into bypass which i find very frustrating

  • @manologomez4345
    @manologomez4345 3 месяца назад

    Hello, can you edit preamp and power amp separately? I want to use ampero mini like DI for a victory preamp.

  • @Falestal
    @Falestal 6 месяцев назад

    Nice vid. But.. It would've made more sense choosing the "same" sound for comparison between the models instead of just the first preset. Instead of showing the first sound you're presented with... unless they were the same?😮 Whatever. Great video. Thanks

  • @soundafterfall
    @soundafterfall 3 месяца назад

    How do you get the custom title ? When i rename it, I only see "P01-1" and my title is small under it

  • @peterschermers
    @peterschermers 6 месяцев назад +1

    PLEASE BE AWARE BEFORE BUYING A HOTONE AMPERO II STAGE:
    1. MIDI OUT is not working (yet). I contacted Hotone about this but they can't confirm if this 'feature' will be fixed anywhere in 2024.
    2. You cannot RENAME Scenes to 'Intro', 'Chorus' etc. It will just be 'Scene 1', 'Scene 2', etc.
    Just so you know.
    Thanks for your videos Henning 👌🏻👌🏻

    • @markdouglas8073
      @markdouglas8073 5 месяцев назад

      WHAT? If MIDI Out (Thru) does not work, that is a major flaw). It does work on my Ampero II Stomp.

    • @peterschermers
      @peterschermers 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@markdouglas8073 Actually, MIDI Thru does work. I’m referring to sending MIDI CC to other pedals, which you can’t. So it’s Thru only (even though the MIDI port says it’s Out / Thru)

  • @sampereira1267
    @sampereira1267 2 месяца назад

    Hi, is anyone using this with vocals? What affects can you use and how does it sound? I can’t find a list anywhere. Thanks a lot!

  • @bassman12
    @bassman12 5 месяцев назад

    Kannst du sagen wie gut das stage II für Bass ist?

  • @chiquinhohoogerdijk1337
    @chiquinhohoogerdijk1337 4 месяца назад

    im thinking of buying the ampero stomp. but i need 2 external pedals in the fx chain. do you know if you can connect 2 pedals using trs to 2 ts cabbles to route 2 pedals in the fx loop? i see in the manual tha you can choose l in and r in separately.

  • @strumminronin
    @strumminronin 4 месяца назад

    I snagged an OG Ampero in PINK when Thomann was selling them a fair bit less than the normal black version. Though it was a bit over budget, I thought, it's a deal still because it's cheaper than the black OG. It's a bit big for my cup of tea, granted it was a rebound reaction after a Nux MG ___ was DOA. Anyhow, the pink Ampero works fine for me. It sounds not entirely perfect but neither is my playing by a very long shot.
    It can do way more than I can ask of it, but a simpler unit sounds even more fake, so trading it makes zero sense. It had better "stay alive" so I don't have to look into yet more new tech! I actually am still very fond of tubes/ valves! Apartment living however dictates usage of headphones, hence the Ampero.
    Should have waited for THAT Dream '65!

  • @ESP77769
    @ESP77769 3 месяца назад +1

    Isn't Valeton the same company as HoTone, with the exact same effects? And the Valeton Valeton GP-200LT has way more features for $30 more than the Ampero Mini!!

    • @charliecordoba943
      @charliecordoba943 3 месяца назад

      No del todo, ademas si investigas bien es mejor la calidad de los amps del mini.

  • @PooNinja
    @PooNinja 6 месяцев назад

    5:19 I’m also externally triggered . What a wonderful world for guitarists.

  • @marcoheerema540
    @marcoheerema540 3 месяца назад +1

    How to use the Ampero line in a bandsetup? All I see is the programming part of the Ampero and... For sure... I like to be the musician instead of a programmer

  • @vaughnwebbermusic
    @vaughnwebbermusic 6 месяцев назад +1

    The ii Stage sounds better to me too

  • @Supermansdead81
    @Supermansdead81 2 месяца назад

    Stomp for me!

  • @StudioChimiel
    @StudioChimiel 6 месяцев назад

    The left one is the best one.

  • @joelleklokkers4124
    @joelleklokkers4124 6 месяцев назад

    How is the latency on these things. I have had a Headrush MX-5 once and the latency was terrible.

    • @joellebrodeur1015
      @joellebrodeur1015 6 месяцев назад

      Oof... Really? I heard other things about them having issues.

    • @joelleklokkers4124
      @joelleklokkers4124 6 месяцев назад

      @@joellebrodeur1015I have had more of those amp modelers. They all sound thin over studio-speakers or do have a terrible latency.

  • @mars6433
    @mars6433 6 месяцев назад

    I need the Stage to replace my RP360XP. Here's my address .....

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 6 месяцев назад

    Is it me or do you sound different in this video?

  • @fraenkiboii
    @fraenkiboii 6 месяцев назад +4

    The best is the one from Neural-DSP 🤪😇

    • @PXR5-PXR5
      @PXR5-PXR5 6 месяцев назад

      So?

    • @fraenkiboii
      @fraenkiboii 6 месяцев назад

      @@PXR5-PXR5 So, that’s the best Ampero.

  • @donniejean
    @donniejean 2 месяца назад

    I thought that was a real dog until they switched views

  • @LajosJunghaus
    @LajosJunghaus 6 месяцев назад

    Flanger Things 😅

  • @bruceharding4986
    @bruceharding4986 6 месяцев назад

    The foot switches are too close together !!!! Pedal builders stop doing this.

    • @EytschPi42
      @EytschPi42  6 месяцев назад +1

      or just have smaller feet?

    • @PooNinja
      @PooNinja 6 месяцев назад

      @@EytschPi42foot binding wrap patterns available upon request.
      Shrink your feet to convenient bite sized bundles.
      ⚠️Ability to walk without assistance may be compromised

    • @pskim1282
      @pskim1282 6 месяцев назад

      I feel the same way. Id like to remove 2nd and 4th button to use only 1 3 5

    • @damonwalton5153
      @damonwalton5153 6 месяцев назад +1

      Wear cowboy boots...

  • @leondantas
    @leondantas 6 месяцев назад

    As I posted on the A2Stage review, Hotone has a major problem with their terrible support. They promise a lot of features on future updates. Those "future updates" were never delivered. Ampero II Stomp are waiting for scenes and gapless transitions effects for more than an year now. The terrible stomp mode switch that terrifies everybody that use the unit to play live are also a promised fix.
    Both Ampero 2 units share the same DSP power but Hotone support was really bad and never delivered what is being promised.

  • @davidfaustino4476
    @davidfaustino4476 6 месяцев назад

    They all have unacceptable latency so none of them.

    • @pskim1282
      @pskim1282 6 месяцев назад

      If you use IR instead of cab sim, latency won't matter.

    • @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist
      @Worlds_Worst_Guitarist 6 месяцев назад +2

      Wow............................. i honestly don't feel any Latency on the Ampero Stage!

    • @estuaic1
      @estuaic1 6 месяцев назад +1

      Can you not stand any latency? From testing I seen on that wee Italian chap's channel, the Stage compares really well to the best out there

  • @uweborsch1946
    @uweborsch1946 6 месяцев назад

    One thing I learned in life: If the price is mentioned more than once, the gear will not be satisfying more than a few weeks.

  • @macmusica
    @macmusica 5 месяцев назад

    Why no bloody VST included oh ffs!!!
    No WDM Drriver????? Jesus

  • @flashpadxxx
    @flashpadxxx 6 месяцев назад +1

    As there appear more and more great preamps on the market it would be cool more pure multi-effect units without amp modelling would be available....with stereo INS.And outs , stereo fx loops etc... like the Hx effects