I just bought the f/4 version after owning the f/2.8. Loved the 2.8 but the weight was still too much for being used over a few hours walking around. I still wish Canon would make a RF version of their 70-300mm L lens. The new f/4 is a keeper though! Keep the vids coming
Glad to know I'm not the only one! I I haven't followed rumors as much since this was announced but I'm suspecting the long list of things they had for 2021 might shift back a little..
Same here. The F4 seems very nice for travel. I need more time with both of them but damn, the f4 just demands to be taken anywhere. And just found out, the weather elements can’t harm the red rings, so that’s also great!
How about between the F2.8 24-70mm vs. F4 24-105mm? Having owned both focal lengths, which one would you recommend? One has the low light advantage, the other has an extra reach plus it's significantly less expensive. I do a lot of event/ night-life photography.
@@sonicvboom I’ve owned both. 24-105mm is amazing lens for my travel/vacation and for that extra reach at 105mm especially. But if you’re mainly event/lowlight then your best bet is the 24-70mm. 2.8 is critical so you don’t have to boost up the ISO to really high levels.
This is exactly what I was looking for. I feel like even shooting weddings, with today's cameras, F4 is just fine. I think the biggest factor here that sells me is the fact that this lens is a bit more versatile, and able to be lugged around much easier for any kind of shoot. Subbed! I like your channel!
@@chamberhartphotography this is absolutely true, I think too many people get caught up with what other people say on youtube and forget that it's all art, and it's all about what YOU like and enjoy at the end of the day
I can totally relate. I bought an F2.8 EF 70-200mm when I first started photography 15 years ago. Absolutely hated launging that piece of HEAVY glass to every event shoot; Found it an absolute *CHORE* to use that lens. Canon has definitely come a long way with regards to prioritizing/ catering to their user experience - especially in the weight department. I believe I may come to like the 70-200 focal length if and when I do pick up the new RF lens 🤓🤓
Love your content! I guess the best thing is that you go straight to the point instead of wasting time on pixels peeping. Audio on the vids is also great - including the fact that your voice is nice and calm - I'm tired of all the frantic self-assuring technical expert ted-talky voices out there. Feels I'm listening a trusted friend honestly advising me about some seriously expensive stuff I want to buy. Got the RF 70-200 f/4, btw. Thanks for the help! Oh, and the photos you take are beatiful. Love to that kind of great material instead of the usual "stuff I shot on my backyard minutes before recording for my YT channel" ppl usually do
Thanks for such detailed feedback! I'm not even close to full time and I'll rarely be first to review so I'm just trying to carve out a little less technical niche. I figure most people are like me and are probably already watching 10 reviews that are about the same. Coming up with enough sample shots that I like for these is definitely the most time consuming, but it's the most fun. And for the rentals it makes for a frantic challenge to dive in as deep and as fast as possible. Hopefully you'll love it as much as me! I'm hoping to make a longer term review for end of year like I did with the 24-105 but it has been my favorite since getting it.
Great video! Got my F4 70-200 copy almost 2 weeks ago. I couldn’t be more happy with my purchase. Much better than I expected. You’re one of the first videos out about this lens. Great video! Keep up the great content!
"Much better than I expected" nails it! And I was expecting pretty good. Haha I was hustling to get it out! Were you coming from an older version of any of the 70-200's?
@@DanYosua upgraded from the 90D and got the R6 last month. Got the RF 24-70 2.8, RF 50 1.8 and this is my first 70-200. I’ve never owned the EF so I can’t compare. But my kit is complete with these lens and the 70-200 is more that the cherry on top!
If you love the 24-105 then this really is almost the same thing, different range. Depending on what else you might need this would probably make a great lens to work towards in the future!
I just got back from a tiny trip and it was even more reinforcing that f4 was good for me. Not too heavy for lugging around for a few hours of moderate hiking and that's a huge benefit anytime you're shooting landscape shots at f8+ and would never know the difference.
Thanks for the review! I'm tracking my RF 70-200mm f4 L delivery and expecting it to arrive tomorrow for my RP. Your image stabilization comparison at 200mm on RP vs on the R6 is like the seal for me from being potentially dissapointed by the IS at longer end. I'm getting more excited to use it! Now waiting for the rumorred RF 14-35mm f4 L IS USM to be out, meanwhile working to get the budget ready for it.
I forgot where I heard it, but the new RF 70-200mm f4 has about the same magnification as the older EF 70-200mm f4 II even though the MFD is closer on the newer lens. I believe this was because there's a good amount of focus breathing when focusing closer so you get a similar magnification. This would probably be far off from the magnification you could get on a dedicated macro lens - but I guess just depends the type of work you do. I have the first EF 70-200mm f4 IS with my EOS R, and still love the lens especially for the price. The RF version looks awesome and would love to use the same 77mm filters, but really can't justify upgrading for the price I'd be paying. Going to check out your comparison between the RF 70-200 f2.8 and f4 version, cheers!
Really good point about the upgrade... if I had an existing one I would probably be excited about this new lens but also would likely just hold onto the one I had.
Great review! You are right about how expensive these lenses are. Here in Canada the F4 70-200 is 2000$ while the F2.8 is 3600$ lol! Going to be getting the F4 for my eos RP. Thanks !
Subbed. Thanks for making this video. Just found your channel. I ended up selling my 24-105 because it wasn’t fast enough for family photography and weddings. Kids man kids. But yeah I rented the 70-200 2.8 for a wedding and honestly I felt like the 35mm 1.8 and 70-200 2.8 is the only Lenses you need for most photos. I ended up grabbing the 15-35mm instead since I needed something for videography too.
I can only imagine with their movement you'd want something faster 🤣Thanks for sticking around! I think in theory I would consider consolidating my 35 and 14 into the 15-35... but I like how both are smaller so I'm not sure. Will definitely try to rent the 15-35 someday to check it out
When you say the F4 24-105mm wasn't "fast" enough, are you referring to its low light performance in relation to the F-stop? Or are you talking the lens being not able to actually capture speed *speed* ? For me personally, I would have preferred having a *RF* combo of F1.8 50mm, F4 25-105mm, and F4 70-200mm for event/ wedding shoots. L-series glass are hella heavy and expensive. If I can save money and most of all, weigh less during my 12-14 hour gigs, I'd be a very happy man 😁😁. On the flip side, if money is no object, I'll admit I probably opt for the holy trinity of F2.8 lenses, with the 50mm and 85mm L-series primes on the side 😛😛
I'm just gonna say it because I doubt anyone else will tell you........that joke...about the moisture avoiding the lense just because it has a red ring.....that was really funny and I appreciated it. Thanks for including that, really, doing youtube research on a lens can be boring AF. Gerald Undone, Gaston Shutters, etc, c'mon man you know how they are. I'm subbing, keep it up! Thanks lol.
Lol, appreciate it. Was one of those off script moments that I let stay. Ideally as I keep getting more comfortable on camera, there will be more embarrassing, awkward humor. At least that's the goal 🤣
I have viewed a few of your vids over the last year and finally just subscribed. I'm in between shoots and have to take off now, but I'm curious if you still have the f4 or went to the 2.8. My money maker is the 15-35 RF. My second RF lens is the 24-70 22.8 which is nice, but not used as much. Debating on 70-200 f4 or 2.8, but leaning towards F4 because I want light. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I'm slowly working on a one year review, because I've had this comment a few times. Still f4, and still my favorite! But I think the context is important too - I'm not using this to make money at indoor events or weddings. It's more of a personal lens and even when I was still freelancing full-time, only half my income was from photography. I still use this occasionally indoors at the coffee shop I shoot at, I've used it for ice hockey if you saw that video. I would maybe swap for the f2.8 if I was doing paid portraiture/weddings/events often. I'm usually using it for hiking/landscape/candids/casual sports... and in all of those scenarios, spending on the 2.8 doesn't make that much sense because I'll happily bump the ISO and the look from 2.8 to 4 isn't THAT much different. With the money I saved, I added the Samyang 85mm f1.4. And 1.4 to 2.8 at 85 does start to look much different. So unless I get into more paid work and need to save some space in the bag and combine, I think the combo does better for me 😀
@Dan Yosua good to hear. It's a hard decision because I bought the 24-70 and I don't use it as often as I wished. Again, I'm a full-time architectural photographer so 15-35 lives on my r6.
@@JaredHoyman That was my worry about the 24-70 early on too, so that and price drove me to build around the 24-105. I think I may consolidate to the 15-35 one day... but I'm sitting on cameras/lenses for a bit. Good to hear another person loving that lens though!
I try my best to take a short trip, shoot something new, or at the very least hit a few local spots before making a vid. Glad it was helpful and thanks for sticking around!
I love the way you review lenses Dan!! It is so great that you talk about lenses in terms of practical use case and experience rather than specs like most others that review lenses. How do you like this lens for video? My channel is a variety of tech videos, but I do a lot of 60fps 1080p product broll and I am considering adding this lens for those shots.
Thanks! Unfortunately, I might not be the best to weigh in on video with this lens yet, especially for that product use case. I am trying to test some video in prep for a longer term review, though. I'll have these clips in an upcoming sports video but in the meantime, this is some 4k60 and 1080p120 I shot just the other week: ruclips.net/video/NSa62DnxQE8/видео.html
I have this lens, and back when I bought it think I watched this very review. So spill the beans, did you keep the f4 or did you switch it up for the 2.8?
Love this - thanks for coming back, super cool to get a comment like this. Still my favorite lens! I made a quick video since where I shot ice hockey. F2.8 would have been nice there, but I'm still really happy with the images at 6400. I shot causally at some friends wedding, at night I needed faster for sure. F2.8 would have helped, but really I should have just rented an 85 f1.2. So a few instances for me where I wanted faster, but not nearly enough to spend the extra or go with the heavier lens (because I love using it on hikes). Unless I start shooting paid sports or events this is likely one I'm going to keep many years!
Your photos are great! What camera are you using for your talking head setup? I find your videos to be super relaxing and engaging. I am currently shooting both photos and videos with a Canon M50 and I want to upgrade to fullframe this year, therefore I am really torn between the R6 and the Sony A7IV. Good to know more about lens choices.
I'm using the R6 for this this, 4k 24, with the 35mm macro, maybe 4-5 ft away. It's a big upgrade video-wise over the RP that I was using the previous videos. The biggest thing is no crop and the AF in 4k is much, much better on the R6. The RP would noticeably fall off my face fairly regularly. Would love to test out the Sony stuff some day on the channel 🤞🏻
@@DanYosua i use it first on my EF 85mm 1.4L and it performs 95% like the 100mm 2.8 L macro and now I use it on the rf 24-105mm L and in the future also on the rf 70-200mm L
The sunstar produced by the 2.8 is much... much better at both, the longer and the shorter focal length. So landscape f4... yes, except you want a nice sunstar :)
I'm curious if the size difference between that and the 24-105 would be as dramatic as it is on the EF versions. Also would be interested to see how they price it. I could be wrong but I would try to keep your expectations low and hopes high for a release date on that 😅given what they still want to get out this year and given that the 24-105 is pretty solid
@@DanYosua the ef 24-70 was cheaper, lighter and sharper than the ef 24-105. shorter zoom range translates to better resolution, and every 100g of weight counts when hiking / traveling with multiple lenses :) i prefer nikons z mount launch strategy of more practical f/4 lenses (eg.24-70 and 14-30).
@@jhellier Like meaning that they started with those on the new mount? That is interesting, I feel like they both chose the right strategy for their respective brands in that case. Meanwhile Sony is like "here, have a new body, we'll release a new one each and every month" 🤣
@@DanYosua True. im surprised how quickly Canon has closed the gap on Sony. very curious to see what the R1 and R5s will bring to the table. exciting times ahead!
My dog! Howzit, I got the EOS R with the RF24-105 F4 usm and love it. But, But on my last trip to Oahu, I needed a little more reach. So I'm looking at the RF 70-200 F4, and would like the Rf 14-35 F4, to complete the trinity. I would like to know your thoughts on the F4 Trinity I know they all have the same size and weight comparable, with same size filter thread, so its seems like some canon has in mind...The good, the bad, and the ugly????
This is my favorite lens for my personal shooting since getting it. I haven't used the 14-35, but expect it to be as strong as this and the 24-105. If you need the cleanest shots for paid gigs maybe look at the 2.8, otherwise even without IBIS this will be great and it's a lot easier to travel with. The one down side of the 14-35 F4 for me would be that it won't be fast for astro. Still probably usable at the widest end in a pinch, but not ideal.
I've spent a week thinking about whether to move the 100mm or not. I think I will miss it occasionally but do plan on listing it for sale soon. I use the 35mm macro for most of the shooting that I need to get close up now, I have other weather sealed lenses now (whereas the 100mm used to be my only) and I've been steadily embracing minimalism as I cut down on possessions before moving in the next few months. If you are like me and were using it more for the reach over the macro... it's probably a fine move.
Really depends on your definition of "macro". If it's not 1:1 then I would get a lens that zooms out as far as possible. Then you could pair extension tubes to do real macro shots. For me I would want a macro lens for macro shots but on the cheap side I use tubes.
Good point, I'll double down on that part again - I was rarely using the 100 to it's full macro capabilities so if you are, swapping this for 70-200 is not going to be as easy of a trade.
Jeez! The aperture stops down to f/32!! That's like medium format range! That's crazy.....maybe that's a typo? Perhaps f/22? Talking about the photo at the exact 5 minute mark.
It goes that low! I did just double check that particular image to make sure and indeed it was. Normally I wouldn't ever shoot that buttt it's a handy hack for long exposure stuff.
How is the dust sealing on this particular RF lens? I've heard photographers having a nightmare with Tamron and Sigma's current 24-70 due to dust getting sucked in to the lens due to poor sealing on the extending lens barrel. To your knowledge, does the RF F4 70-200mm L have a filter between the extending barrel and the main barrel to prevent dust from getting sucked into the lens? Or in your extensive use of the lens, have you detected any issues with dust [long term use]?
I haven't had any issues yet with this and the 25-105 I've had longer. I'm not sure about a dust filter specifically, but there certainly is weather sealing. I usually wipe any visible water once inside, and then gently rest the lens (while extended) to air dry.
Do you think the space/weight savings and other native lens benefits will be worth it for owners of EF70-200 F4 mark II who can adapt it to an R5 body?
This is a tough one - if I had the prior it would depend on how much I could sell it for. I've been doing some hiking in Colorado the past month and it's been nice to have the lighter stuff for longer hikes and especially stuff at elevation that I'm not used to. So if you use it a ton and don't have other pressing wants, then it could be a nice upgrade. Otherwise, if it were me I'd probably keep the EF II.
Hey dan are you finding the 70 200 f4 useful. I spoke with you before about having a 35mm and 70 200 Then there is the 24 105 to consider as my second purchase I wondered how your getting on seen as you have all those lenses? I just have the budget and interest to have one more. Either the 70 200 or the 24 105 to go with the 35mm 1.8 Hope your well.
Thanks for checking back in! I’m still loving the 70-200, would consider it my favorite lens. I honestly don’t think you can go wrong with either but… if you feel you often want wider than the 35, I would go with the more well rounded 24-105. Otherwise, the 70-200 is gonna be better for portraits and will offer some new shooting if you haven’t been shooting long lately
@@DanYosua yes its such a hard call. I can see why the 70 200 is your favourite.. Its a very good lense and focal length for many things. I think the 70 200 could be the one Is it used often enough though for you?. Whats your most used lense now dan? I mentioned before i have taken 8000 images in the last months all with the 35mm I would say i could get away with it as my main focal for sure. But yes i have wanted wider but its hard to say how many times..it wouldnt be that much id say..
I do use the 70-200 most right now. I often reach for that, the 24-105, the 100, then the 14 in that order. At least typically. And then for the 35 I film most of the video stuff with that + I will pair it with the RP when I'm trying to stay small.
I just practiced shooting some hockey for the first time this weekend with this combo! I was sorta overwhelmed with how different this was, but I was happy for a first effort. Would have liked a f2.8 indoors, but f4 held up well with the R6. I cover this in my comparison video but for me personally, I’d need to be shooting lots more indoor sports or weddings to upgrade. Shot almost everything at 1/1000, f4, 3200-6400. Then brought up exposure and shadows a bit in LR with a noise reduction of 20. Pretty happy with how they look from a noise perspective. You can see some samples on my Instagram/Twitter. I’m shooting casually at a wedding for the first time next month… I imagine if you shoot a lot of those you may want the 2.8 but maybe others can chime in on their wedding experience with it.
@@DanYosua actually let me take that back, I will be using the rf 70-200 f4L strictly for weddings only. Dancing shouldn’t be an issue for this lens right?
@@royaltykidstv I would think you could get away with 1/250 or less for slower dances maybe? So if you don't mind shooting those at 1600-6400 you should be ok.
I just bought the f/4 version after owning the f/2.8. Loved the 2.8 but the weight was still too much for being used over a few hours walking around. I still wish Canon would make a RF version of their 70-300mm L lens. The new f/4 is a keeper though! Keep the vids coming
Glad to know I'm not the only one! I I haven't followed rumors as much since this was announced but I'm suspecting the long list of things they had for 2021 might shift back a little..
Same here. The F4 seems very nice for travel. I need more time with both of them but damn, the f4 just demands to be taken anywhere. And just found out, the weather elements can’t harm the red rings, so that’s also great!
@@davetv8171 lol you heard it here first 🤣
How about between the F2.8 24-70mm vs. F4 24-105mm? Having owned both focal lengths, which one would you recommend? One has the low light advantage, the other has an extra reach plus it's significantly less expensive. I do a lot of event/ night-life photography.
@@sonicvboom I’ve owned both. 24-105mm is amazing lens for my travel/vacation and for that extra reach at 105mm especially. But if you’re mainly event/lowlight then your best bet is the 24-70mm. 2.8 is critical so you don’t have to boost up the ISO to really high levels.
Can feel the last sentence of the video!🤍
Haha I stuck with the F4 myself, currently working on a long term video. The F2.8 hurts the wallet 🤑
Just got this lens and love everything about it. It’s the tiniest 70-200 I’ve ever owned and is very sharp
Cheers to the form factor! It’s lovely
This is exactly what I was looking for. I feel like even shooting weddings, with today's cameras, F4 is just fine. I think the biggest factor here that sells me is the fact that this lens is a bit more versatile, and able to be lugged around much easier for any kind of shoot. Subbed! I like your channel!
Ditto, loved seeing your hiking stuff!
@@DanYosua thanks man! I appreciate it!
With today's cameras, boosting the iso high with a f/4 and still get great images.
@@chamberhartphotography this is absolutely true, I think too many people get caught up with what other people say on youtube and forget that it's all art, and it's all about what YOU like and enjoy at the end of the day
I can totally relate. I bought an F2.8 EF 70-200mm when I first started photography 15 years ago. Absolutely hated launging that piece of HEAVY glass to every event shoot; Found it an absolute *CHORE* to use that lens. Canon has definitely come a long way with regards to prioritizing/ catering to their user experience - especially in the weight department. I believe I may come to like the 70-200 focal length if and when I do pick up the new RF lens 🤓🤓
Love your content!
I guess the best thing is that you go straight to the point instead of wasting time on pixels peeping. Audio on the vids is also great - including the fact that your voice is nice and calm - I'm tired of all the frantic self-assuring technical expert ted-talky voices out there. Feels I'm listening a trusted friend honestly advising me about some seriously expensive stuff I want to buy.
Got the RF 70-200 f/4, btw. Thanks for the help! Oh, and the photos you take are beatiful. Love to that kind of great material instead of the usual "stuff I shot on my backyard minutes before recording for my YT channel" ppl usually do
Thanks for such detailed feedback! I'm not even close to full time and I'll rarely be first to review so I'm just trying to carve out a little less technical niche. I figure most people are like me and are probably already watching 10 reviews that are about the same. Coming up with enough sample shots that I like for these is definitely the most time consuming, but it's the most fun. And for the rentals it makes for a frantic challenge to dive in as deep and as fast as possible.
Hopefully you'll love it as much as me! I'm hoping to make a longer term review for end of year like I did with the 24-105 but it has been my favorite since getting it.
Great video! Got my F4 70-200 copy almost 2 weeks ago. I couldn’t be more happy with my purchase. Much better than I expected. You’re one of the first videos out about this lens. Great video! Keep up the great content!
"Much better than I expected" nails it! And I was expecting pretty good. Haha I was hustling to get it out! Were you coming from an older version of any of the 70-200's?
@@DanYosua upgraded from the 90D and got the R6 last month. Got the RF 24-70 2.8, RF 50 1.8 and this is my first 70-200. I’ve never owned the EF so I can’t compare. But my kit is complete with these lens and the 70-200 is more that the cherry on top!
Nice, that is sounding solid. It's definitely a good feeling mentally to be ready for anything when the bag is packed like that!
I just sold my ef 70-200 , it was the best lens I ever used! Can’t wait to get the rf version
Prepare to fall in love
I have an rp, and then bought a 24-105 f4, that I love.
I am very interested in the 70-200 f4. It definitely has me intrigued moving into the future.
If you love the 24-105 then this really is almost the same thing, different range. Depending on what else you might need this would probably make a great lens to work towards in the future!
I have an RP and getting the lens, still waiting the shipment. I am glad I get the lens after seeing your video.
Nice, have fun shooting with it when it comes!
Great video with amazing shots as always, mate!
It’s amazing the F4 version is only slightly bigger then the 24-105 F4
Thank ya! It's crazy, very much looking forward to the day I can pack it on a longer trip 🏔
F/4 is definitely good enough for me. On my wish list.
I just got back from a tiny trip and it was even more reinforcing that f4 was good for me. Not too heavy for lugging around for a few hours of moderate hiking and that's a huge benefit anytime you're shooting landscape shots at f8+ and would never know the difference.
Thanks for the review!
I'm tracking my RF 70-200mm f4 L delivery and expecting it to arrive tomorrow for my RP. Your image stabilization comparison at 200mm on RP vs on the R6 is like the seal for me from being potentially dissapointed by the IS at longer end.
I'm getting more excited to use it!
Now waiting for the rumorred RF 14-35mm f4 L IS USM to be out, meanwhile working to get the budget ready for it.
I forgot where I heard it, but the new RF 70-200mm f4 has about the same magnification as the older EF 70-200mm f4 II even though the MFD is closer on the newer lens. I believe this was because there's a good amount of focus breathing when focusing closer so you get a similar magnification. This would probably be far off from the magnification you could get on a dedicated macro lens - but I guess just depends the type of work you do.
I have the first EF 70-200mm f4 IS with my EOS R, and still love the lens especially for the price. The RF version looks awesome and would love to use the same 77mm filters, but really can't justify upgrading for the price I'd be paying. Going to check out your comparison between the RF 70-200 f2.8 and f4 version, cheers!
Really good point about the upgrade... if I had an existing one I would probably be excited about this new lens but also would likely just hold onto the one I had.
Did this human just called us a bunch of "dogs"? 😅😄😂🐶
Absolutely NOT 😜 "dawgs"
Great review! You are right about how expensive these lenses are. Here in Canada the F4 70-200 is 2000$ while the F2.8 is 3600$ lol! Going to be getting the F4 for my eos RP. Thanks !
Oh boy, that looks even more unfriendly in CAD 🤣
Maybe the ef 70-200 f2.8 II or III is better. still good af performance with the adapter.
Subbed. Thanks for making this video. Just found your channel. I ended up selling my 24-105 because it wasn’t fast enough for family photography and weddings. Kids man kids. But yeah I rented the 70-200 2.8 for a wedding and honestly I felt like the 35mm 1.8 and 70-200 2.8 is the only Lenses you need for most photos. I ended up grabbing the 15-35mm instead since I needed something for videography too.
I can only imagine with their movement you'd want something faster 🤣Thanks for sticking around! I think in theory I would consider consolidating my 35 and 14 into the 15-35... but I like how both are smaller so I'm not sure. Will definitely try to rent the 15-35 someday to check it out
When you say the F4 24-105mm wasn't "fast" enough, are you referring to its low light performance in relation to the F-stop? Or are you talking the lens being not able to actually capture speed *speed* ? For me personally, I would have preferred having a *RF* combo of F1.8 50mm, F4 25-105mm, and F4 70-200mm for event/ wedding shoots. L-series glass are hella heavy and expensive. If I can save money and most of all, weigh less during my 12-14 hour gigs, I'd be a very happy man 😁😁. On the flip side, if money is no object, I'll admit I probably opt for the holy trinity of F2.8 lenses, with the 50mm and 85mm L-series primes on the side 😛😛
I'm just gonna say it because I doubt anyone else will tell you........that joke...about the moisture avoiding the lense just because it has a red ring.....that was really funny and I appreciated it. Thanks for including that, really, doing youtube research on a lens can be boring AF. Gerald Undone, Gaston Shutters, etc, c'mon man you know how they are. I'm subbing, keep it up! Thanks lol.
Lol, appreciate it. Was one of those off script moments that I let stay. Ideally as I keep getting more comfortable on camera, there will be more embarrassing, awkward humor. At least that's the goal 🤣
I have viewed a few of your vids over the last year and finally just subscribed. I'm in between shoots and have to take off now, but I'm curious if you still have the f4 or went to the 2.8. My money maker is the 15-35 RF. My second RF lens is the 24-70 22.8 which is nice, but not used as much. Debating on 70-200 f4 or 2.8, but leaning towards F4 because I want light. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I'm slowly working on a one year review, because I've had this comment a few times. Still f4, and still my favorite! But I think the context is important too - I'm not using this to make money at indoor events or weddings. It's more of a personal lens and even when I was still freelancing full-time, only half my income was from photography. I still use this occasionally indoors at the coffee shop I shoot at, I've used it for ice hockey if you saw that video. I would maybe swap for the f2.8 if I was doing paid portraiture/weddings/events often. I'm usually using it for hiking/landscape/candids/casual sports... and in all of those scenarios, spending on the 2.8 doesn't make that much sense because I'll happily bump the ISO and the look from 2.8 to 4 isn't THAT much different. With the money I saved, I added the Samyang 85mm f1.4. And 1.4 to 2.8 at 85 does start to look much different.
So unless I get into more paid work and need to save some space in the bag and combine, I think the combo does better for me 😀
@Dan Yosua good to hear. It's a hard decision because I bought the 24-70 and I don't use it as often as I wished. Again, I'm a full-time architectural photographer so 15-35 lives on my r6.
@@JaredHoyman That was my worry about the 24-70 early on too, so that and price drove me to build around the 24-105. I think I may consolidate to the 15-35 one day... but I'm sitting on cameras/lenses for a bit.
Good to hear another person loving that lens though!
Have you had any experiences with the RF24-240 F4?
Not yet, though I'm hoping to try that as a sole lens on a trip next year, with some comparisons to the two f4 L zooms.
Lots of images sample , dope video . This was helpful . New subscriber
I try my best to take a short trip, shoot something new, or at the very least hit a few local spots before making a vid. Glad it was helpful and thanks for sticking around!
I love the way you review lenses Dan!! It is so great that you talk about lenses in terms of practical use
case and experience rather than specs like most others that review lenses.
How do you like this lens for video? My channel is a variety of tech videos, but I do a lot of 60fps 1080p
product broll and I am considering adding this lens for those shots.
Thanks! Unfortunately, I might not be the best to weigh in on video with this lens yet, especially for that product use case. I am trying to test some video in prep for a longer term review, though. I'll have these clips in an upcoming sports video but in the meantime, this is some 4k60 and 1080p120 I shot just the other week: ruclips.net/video/NSa62DnxQE8/видео.html
I have this lens, and back when I bought it think I watched this very review. So spill the beans, did you keep the f4 or did you switch it up for the 2.8?
Love this - thanks for coming back, super cool to get a comment like this.
Still my favorite lens! I made a quick video since where I shot ice hockey. F2.8 would have been nice there, but I'm still really happy with the images at 6400. I shot causally at some friends wedding, at night I needed faster for sure. F2.8 would have helped, but really I should have just rented an 85 f1.2.
So a few instances for me where I wanted faster, but not nearly enough to spend the extra or go with the heavier lens (because I love using it on hikes). Unless I start shooting paid sports or events this is likely one I'm going to keep many years!
Your photos are great! What camera are you using for your talking head setup? I find your videos to be super relaxing and engaging. I am currently shooting both photos and videos with a Canon M50 and I want to upgrade to fullframe this year, therefore I am really torn between the R6 and the Sony A7IV. Good to know more about lens choices.
I'm using the R6 for this this, 4k 24, with the 35mm macro, maybe 4-5 ft away. It's a big upgrade video-wise over the RP that I was using the previous videos. The biggest thing is no crop and the AF in 4k is much, much better on the R6. The RP would noticeably fall off my face fairly regularly. Would love to test out the Sony stuff some day on the channel 🤞🏻
Try the Close Up lense Form Nisi !!! This makes a macro lense Out of Every lense
That looks super interesting! What do you use it on?
@@DanYosua i use it first on my EF 85mm 1.4L and it performs 95% like the 100mm 2.8 L macro and now I use it on the rf 24-105mm L and in the future also on the rf 70-200mm L
@@trollfalfa Nice, I would definitely give this a look in the future, thanks for mentioning it!
That’s my lens rotation right now; 35/ 50/ 70-200mm.
I’ve got the latter two on my trip right now
Quality video man
Thanks, appreciate it! 👌🏻
The sunstar produced by the 2.8 is much... much better at both, the longer and the shorter focal length. So landscape f4... yes, except you want a nice sunstar :)
As it turns out I don’t have sun star money 😩😩
i hope Canon makes an rf 24-70 f4 to compliment this and the upcoming 14-35 f4.
I'm curious if the size difference between that and the 24-105 would be as dramatic as it is on the EF versions. Also would be interested to see how they price it. I could be wrong but I would try to keep your expectations low and hopes high for a release date on that 😅given what they still want to get out this year and given that the 24-105 is pretty solid
@@DanYosua the ef 24-70 was cheaper, lighter and sharper than the ef 24-105. shorter zoom range translates to better resolution, and every 100g of weight counts when hiking / traveling with multiple lenses :) i prefer nikons z mount launch strategy of more practical f/4 lenses (eg.24-70 and 14-30).
@@jhellier Like meaning that they started with those on the new mount? That is interesting, I feel like they both chose the right strategy for their respective brands in that case. Meanwhile Sony is like "here, have a new body, we'll release a new one each and every month" 🤣
@@DanYosua True. im surprised how quickly Canon has closed the gap on Sony. very curious to see what the R1 and R5s will bring to the table. exciting times ahead!
The r5 makes any lens work beautiful
hope to get my paws on one someday
@@DanYosua yea get one ASAP, with the ibis and the stabilization from the f4 lens you can take real good pics using a slower shutter speed
haha well it won't be ASAP after getting the R6 earlier in the year 😅
My dog! Howzit, I got the EOS R with the RF24-105 F4 usm and love it. But, But on my last trip to Oahu, I needed a little more reach. So I'm looking at the RF 70-200 F4, and would like the Rf 14-35 F4, to complete the trinity. I would like to know your thoughts on the F4 Trinity I know they all have the same size and weight comparable, with same size filter thread, so its seems like some canon has in mind...The good, the bad, and the ugly????
This is my favorite lens for my personal shooting since getting it. I haven't used the 14-35, but expect it to be as strong as this and the 24-105. If you need the cleanest shots for paid gigs maybe look at the 2.8, otherwise even without IBIS this will be great and it's a lot easier to travel with. The one down side of the 14-35 F4 for me would be that it won't be fast for astro. Still probably usable at the widest end in a pinch, but not ideal.
Great video! I am also debating replacing my 100mm macro with the 70-200 f4 , what are your thoughts after using it a bit longer?
I've spent a week thinking about whether to move the 100mm or not. I think I will miss it occasionally but do plan on listing it for sale soon. I use the 35mm macro for most of the shooting that I need to get close up now, I have other weather sealed lenses now (whereas the 100mm used to be my only) and I've been steadily embracing minimalism as I cut down on possessions before moving in the next few months. If you are like me and were using it more for the reach over the macro... it's probably a fine move.
Really depends on your definition of "macro". If it's not 1:1 then I would get a lens that zooms out as far as possible. Then you could pair extension tubes to do real macro shots. For me I would want a macro lens for macro shots but on the cheap side I use tubes.
Good point, I'll double down on that part again - I was rarely using the 100 to it's full macro capabilities so if you are, swapping this for 70-200 is not going to be as easy of a trade.
Jeez! The aperture stops down to f/32!! That's like medium format range! That's crazy.....maybe that's a typo? Perhaps f/22? Talking about the photo at the exact 5 minute mark.
It goes that low! I did just double check that particular image to make sure and indeed it was. Normally I wouldn't ever shoot that buttt it's a handy hack for long exposure stuff.
How is the dust sealing on this particular RF lens? I've heard photographers having a nightmare with Tamron and Sigma's current 24-70 due to dust getting sucked in to the lens due to poor sealing on the extending lens barrel. To your knowledge, does the RF F4 70-200mm L have a filter between the extending barrel and the main barrel to prevent dust from getting sucked into the lens? Or in your extensive use of the lens, have you detected any issues with dust [long term use]?
I haven't had any issues yet with this and the 25-105 I've had longer. I'm not sure about a dust filter specifically, but there certainly is weather sealing. I usually wipe any visible water once inside, and then gently rest the lens (while extended) to air dry.
Do you think the space/weight savings and other native lens benefits will be worth it for owners of EF70-200 F4 mark II who can adapt it to an R5 body?
This is a tough one - if I had the prior it would depend on how much I could sell it for. I've been doing some hiking in Colorado the past month and it's been nice to have the lighter stuff for longer hikes and especially stuff at elevation that I'm not used to. So if you use it a ton and don't have other pressing wants, then it could be a nice upgrade. Otherwise, if it were me I'd probably keep the EF II.
Hey dan are you finding the 70 200 f4 useful.
I spoke with you before about having a 35mm and 70 200
Then there is the 24 105 to consider as my second purchase
I wondered how your getting on seen as you have all those lenses?
I just have the budget and interest to have one more. Either the 70 200 or the 24 105 to go with the 35mm 1.8
Hope your well.
Thanks for checking back in! I’m still loving the 70-200, would consider it my favorite lens. I honestly don’t think you can go wrong with either but… if you feel you often want wider than the 35, I would go with the more well rounded 24-105. Otherwise, the 70-200 is gonna be better for portraits and will offer some new shooting if you haven’t been shooting long lately
@@DanYosua yes its such a hard call.
I can see why the 70 200 is your favourite..
Its a very good lense and focal length for many things.
I think the 70 200 could be the one
Is it used often enough though for you?.
Whats your most used lense now dan?
I mentioned before i have taken 8000 images in the last months all with the 35mm
I would say i could get away with it as my main focal for sure.
But yes i have wanted wider but its hard to say how many times..it wouldnt be that much id say..
I do use the 70-200 most right now. I often reach for that, the 24-105, the 100, then the 14 in that order. At least typically. And then for the 35 I film most of the video stuff with that + I will pair it with the RP when I'm trying to stay small.
Will this lens do well with weddings and sports? I will use it with an r6.
I just practiced shooting some hockey for the first time this weekend with this combo! I was sorta overwhelmed with how different this was, but I was happy for a first effort. Would have liked a f2.8 indoors, but f4 held up well with the R6. I cover this in my comparison video but for me personally, I’d need to be shooting lots more indoor sports or weddings to upgrade. Shot almost everything at 1/1000, f4, 3200-6400. Then brought up exposure and shadows a bit in LR with a noise reduction of 20. Pretty happy with how they look from a noise perspective. You can see some samples on my Instagram/Twitter. I’m shooting casually at a wedding for the first time next month… I imagine if you shoot a lot of those you may want the 2.8 but maybe others can chime in on their wedding experience with it.
@@DanYosua actually let me take that back, I will be using the rf 70-200 f4L strictly for weddings only. Dancing shouldn’t be an issue for this lens right?
@@royaltykidstv I would think you could get away with 1/250 or less for slower dances maybe? So if you don't mind shooting those at 1600-6400 you should be ok.
@@DanYosua thank you
I’m going to lose my L series virginity to this lens. ❤️
Do it!!!!
I have the canon rp with this lens I have a noise not sharp
What are your typical settings and focus modes?
@@DanYosua f5.6 iso 300
Hmm, if you’re already shooting at fast enough speeds and using servo there may be some issue
precipitation and red ring lolol
🤣
theres so many f4 videos do you think i can just place an honorary f4 sweep comment here and get like partial credit