Born in Uk, lived in UK, educated in UK as an Islamic scholar what a beautiful thing. As a Turkish Muslim I find this idea so fascinating and I hope that this happens in every western country.
Paul Williams: "Jesus did not teach Christianity. He taught Islam." _I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Jesus is the Messiah and the Messenger of God._ - John 17.3
W'Salaam Alaikum. Something I forgot to mention in the interview with Paul is this: The evil of racism and social stigma (the two are often intertwined) falls away when it comes to the Salah (prayer). Suddenly the Adhan (call to prayer) happens and we all file into the masjid (mosque), as I have just done here in Oman, and we file in line regardless of race, status, money, knowledge, age, etc..... I could literally be praying next to the poorest man on one side of me, and the richest man on the other....THIS is the beauty of Islam, the beauty of what our beloved Prophet (pbuh) spoke. We all, more than ever, need to be reminded of this. Alhamdulilah
NO “ladies’HIJAB” found in the Quran. The word HIJAB is used in the Quran but not for ladies. Check these Ayath/verses that they say have Hijab in them. (But not found) In Quran 33.59 - “ … JILBAB over themselves…” in Quran 24.31 - “… Khimar over the Jayb..” The word is KHIMAR in the Quran.24.31 - Root Meaning of KHIMAR is just a COVERING, it can also be a neck scarf, any scarf, dupatta, chadar, etc. There is no head, hair, veil, niqab or any such importance in the Quran, transliteration of Quran 24.31: “yadribna bi’Khumur’ihinna ala juyoob’ihinna” [Plurals : khumur, juyoob] Quran 24.31 (see the part of the verse they say has hijab ) // *..put forth the Khimars OVER THE JAYBs…*// KHIMAR = COVERING and JAYB just means OPENING - like an opening in a dress, deep-neck, like shirt pocket - is a jayb To verify from the Quran check this example in //Quran 28.32 (part) “…. yadaka fee jayb’ika …”. // “… put your hand in your Jayb..” (clearly a pocket or opening in the dress) (or) some people translate it as chest/ bosoms coz that’s where the Jayb is. Look at where the importance is in the verse: “COVERING over the Jayb” - but the EXPLANATIONS of ‘Sect’ /Firqa leaders promoted the concept of ladies’HIJAB - by adding it in books written much later after the Quran AND by adding words with brackets in translations and explanations - gradually shifting the importance of COVERING the Jayb - giving importance away from the Jayb seems like distraction from the main emphasis. - AND also these Firqa leaders wrote the Dictionary centuries later to push their meanings - please ask them : when and who wrote the Dictionary that they show their meanings from? We should not accept new meanings to the words after the word is used in the Quran - in the present era the meanings can be understood by checking the same word usage within the Quran - see where the word is used again. QURAN is it’s own DICTIONARY within it - (by using the important words in other verses and locking the meanings). They should know when the same root word is used for intoxicants even then it’s used for “COVER” - - any intoxicant or alcohol COVERS the ability INSIDE THE MIND - - Please NOTE : khumur /intoxicants/ALCOHOL does NOT cover the HAIR or outer-head. How can a religion claiming to be for the whole world - promote desert clothing for far off freezing lands? They’re Spreading culture and calling it religion - They took the desert clothing that is needed in sand storms and called it religion OTHER religious groups were ALREADY wearing it in the desert. IF anyone wants TO FOLLOW WORDS OF ALLAH then they should verify with the Quran - coz every secondary source should match with the Quran AND they should not add words in translations. JILBAB: Means any decent OUTER CLOTHING worn above the under-garments - it’s plural is JALABIB The verse in the Quran 33.59 is about JILBAB - it’s about wearing outer clothing - where it also says that “they can be RECOGNISED and NOT HARASSED” So the condition is to be recognised : how will anyone RECOGNISE if you cover fully? - So avoid tight clothing - it’s really simple as per Quran. Wearing clothes that the security personnel and other people are scared of coz they cannot recognise the person inside - as a result you face difficulty and then that results in feeling harassed. Check the verse Q.33.59 below and remember that some translations or interpretations have added words in brackets - so look at Arabic /or word-to-word translation to VERIFY, yes VERIFY. “… alay’ihinna min jalabib’ihinna… “ -- //Quran 33.59 O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their JILBAB over themselves . In this way it is more likely that they will be RECOGNISED and not be HARASSED. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful// -- Notice it’s only talking about properly covering themselves - there is NO emphasis on head, hair, face covering in this verse also. - Some of them will not VERIFY what is in the Quran - word by word. And you may get to see how they will jump to start calling IGNORANT and names to the person showing them the research.
Oman seems so lovely. We want to have a family holiday in Salalah in shaa Allah. Oman is being slept on. Its traditional with amazing architecture unlike some other gulf countries who have gone crazy with modernism lol
MashAllah sister, that is very nice to know! I met my wife in London. Tell your husband he is very blessed to be married to a Nubian Egyptian :) Where did you meet? And do you live in Europe/US ....or elsewhere? Salaam
MashaAllah, hello fellow Egyptian sister, I'm from Cairo, may God bless your life, the examples of revert Muslim men and women I've seen are such wise educated people, although their journey was not easy but they value their faith more than most of born Muslims in my opinion. رزقكم الله الخير والبركه
@@rogston39 Thank you so much for replying, I saw your reply to the Nubian sister but didn't realise you're the guest of the episode himself, I've started watching Dawah channels and revert Muslim stories only a short while ago and this really affected me. I actually aspire to reach that level of wisdom and knowledge that leads a person to change his faith and his entire path. God bless you and your beautiful family
The brother’s comment about how strong the Islamic community is reminded me of someone said that we, Muslims, we might have dysfunctional countries, but don’t have dysfunctional societies. As Islam has a powerful way of establishing strong communities and bring people together through daily prayer, marriage, funerals, Ramadan etc etc. and encourage people to look out for each other. People are suffering enormously from isolation and getting into depression in the Western countries. Islam has so much to offer if people have the humility to look into it.
So very true, so very true. I have just returned from a trip to Pakistan; politically, so much is wrong, but as a society founded upon , and proud of, their Islam, it was a deeply humbling experience. I left feeling a stronger Muslim, and all because of the countless "ordinary" people I met. Alhamdulilah
Asalamalaikum from the US 🇺🇸 This was an insightful 2nd interview with Yusuf Ogston. Thanks for sharing, Paul. Keep up the great work. 🇵🇸 Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Thank you Yusuf Ogston (Rev Russell Ogston) for sharing your journey as a muslim: You made very important distinctions. Born Muslims must unlearn their bias: Agreed with you on their social behavior: Palestine is a living example of Bias and injustice of our times.
Thank you Mr. Williams for having Mr. Ogston. I think we need someone, who have embraced Islam, to remind us about the issue of the dominance of the social-driven attitudes over faith when it comes to treating others based on their skin color or social status! Very valid point.
Im from Malaysia & always follow Bro Paul discussion on Islam, I value your knowledge & research on Islam. It has enhancement my knowledge on Islam eventhough I am born muslim. Continue good discussion & dakwah. May Allah bless you sir….
Your great guest speech is very clear I live in America and most of the time I struggle with British accent but he speaks very clearly I hope you make him a regular guest in your wonderful vlog
Brother Paul, I am so glad you talked about this racism in Islam (more of cultural nature). We should take this menance heads on and keep challenging it until it's gone. (May not be fully eradicated but reduced to a point where it's not a norm) Alhamdulillah!
This channel is a breath of fresh air for us muslim westerners embarrassed of our country’s leader’s. Islam is the hope of the decadence of the west. Alhamdulillah!
May اللہ bless both of u & your families & all the people around u.... & keep all of your generations to come on this right path....huge huge respect from pakistan....
Am so happy Paul that you got brother Russell again, I remember the previous episode because it touched me very much very well spoken warm hearted person. I just want to affirm that there is unspoken racism found among Muslims, but its a very wrong action, Islam as a religion is very clear in that, and no matter how racist a person is in his heart Islam brings him down to his face right next to a person of all colors in Mosques. Islam IS perfect. Muslims arent :) Thank you again Paul for a very nice conversation.
I grew up in the UAE, a very multicultural society. As per my experience, there is no discrimination based on the colour of one's skin in and of itself. We have indigenous Iraqi, Syrian and Palestinian Muslims who are blonde with gray eyes, and sometimes even ginger. And we have other Palestinian, North African and Gulf Muslims who are mostly brown, some Muslims from thy gulf are black, while Muslims from Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Mali etc too are black. So it really isn't easy to say so and so is an "English Muslim" just by looking at someone. Honestly, if I didn't know the two of you, and I saw you brothers at a mosque in UAE, I'd assume you both to be from Levant or Gulf. Unfortunately, there is sometimes discrimination based on language or based on nationality, but not based on race. (My experience) May Allah bless us all and forgive us for our shortcomings.
Bro in UAE as per my experience it’s white skin regarded as noble and higher Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi are outcasts and blacks are untouchable. It happened to me because of skin color the Arabs didn’t even entered in the elevator if they find me alone in the elevator but it wasn’t the case when find a white person. We Muslims have tendency of putting the issues under the rug.
@@maaz87 LIke the brother said, it's not so much about color but more about ethnicity.There are a lot of brown, deep brown and black Arabs and they don't get that treatment. It's ethnicity and also economic class. It's more of a Gulf issue (but not only a Gulf Arab issue) and certainly not all Gulf Arabs are like that. And yes, White European converts do have preferential treatment.
Please, let’s be honest. Racism does exist among Muslims in Muslim countries and among those who settle in the West. As an African-American I am no stranger to the feel and scent of racism and very much experienced it in Saudi Arabia for the nearly four years I resided there. There is a toxic, distasteful color consciousness that exists among Muslims and we can pretend it doesn’t exist because we know it shouldn’t but it is there and it is palpable.
Br Yusuf what beautiful words i can listen to you all day long, Allah bless you for the beautiful heart and integrity you have. Please continue these amazing discussions.
May Allah bless him and you both and the rest of humanity on the earth and wish him success and happiness in his life and your life, best of luck in his journey towards humanity, freedom, justice, equality , especially justice for Palestinians in Palestine ❤❤❤.
Assalamu alaikom Such a beautiful surprise to see u again Yusuf, and hear parts of your journey to Islam, that really put a smile on my face and brought incredibly beautiful memories me and my husband had in Oman with u and ur beautiful wife and lovely children (May Allah bless u all) Its quiet fascinating that u have detected cracks in yhe system early on before even becoming a Muslim, as its a sad reality in the west how enslaving people become the norm u der the illusion of fake freedom and so called democracy, which led to many vicitms that u have witness throught ur work as a priest May Allah reward u as u r a very descent person along with ur family Hope to see u and ur lovely family again soon in shaa Allah
Alaikum Salaam to you both :) Thank you so much for your kind words, and indeed you are right...."the illusion of fake freedom and so called democracy...." . Every blessing to you there :)
Mashallah brother Paul bringing us closer and closer to Allah with these videos may Allah reward you with good deeds and jannah to you and yo all of us ameen
As salaam o alaikum brothers Paul and Yusuf, thank you for this deeply stimulating conversation. I just wanted to add my two cents on the subject of racism and deep set prejudice that brother Yusuf felt living in the Middle East. I am a Muslim, born and raised in Pakistan, who then got the opportunity to move around a bit.. lived in Malaysia for 5 yrs, then Bahrain for another 7 years, and Canada for the last 4 yrs. Throughout this journey, I experienced Islam in various colors. In South Asia, there is a deep social divide that transcends color, I believe. So, growing up, at home, we had domestic helpers who were treated in many ways, similar to what Brother Yusuf described. But they were Pakistanis, brown and muslim like us. The same pervasive class system I witnessed in the Arab world. The only difference was probably that Middle Eastern Arabs seem to suffer a superiority complex towards all other non-arab muslims of color..be they from Egypt, Sudan, or Bangladesh. It was in Southeast Asia that I actually felt Islam, in the real sense. We had muslims from Pakistan/India, Iran, Sri Lanka, Jordon, Scotland, Indonesia, and surprisingly, we were all treated with same deference and politeness. I am no scholar but maybe these varied experiences are more a reflection of the social system of these regions that somehow supercede their belief system?
Seeing many Christians convert to Islam, despite their different cultures and degrees of education, some of them are priest, pastors and theologians, and not seeing an equivalent of this on the Muslim side, even among those who live in the West who are supposed to be influenced by the environment and the cultural pressure, with the media attacking Islam that doesn’t stop, is something for Christians to think about. “It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allāh dislike it.” (9/33)
Like example, Priest Vladimir Ugryumov from Russia, Gould David from Australia, Hilarion Heagy from America, and brother Paul himself is a respected theologian.
Yes, we need to raise our voices for peoples interest. We need leaders to stand beside less privileged people. Compassionate and Enlightened ones must come forward in politics.
It’s heart filling to listening to these beautiful stories of our bro/sis in Islam❤ I lived most my life in UK (London) got married and moved to Birmingham. Lived in Birmingham over 10years since 2010. My children are thus brommies🎉 Finally live now in egypt 🇪🇬 I have many connections with Brother Yusuf. May Allah keep us all firm in this beautiful faith (a gift from the Almighty) aameen.
W'Salaam Alaikum, thank you so much for your kind words. I lived in Birmingham and studied there. I lived near the University and then in Handsworth :) Great memories. I was in Cairo in 2011 - 2012; an amazing time....not always easy but if you can thrive in Cairo, you can thrive anywhere :)
MashaAllah Very balanced and a sincere deep thought provoking articulation of affairs and behaviors. We are struggling to understand but also express the worldwide cross cultural “new islam” encounters, and you both discussed it very clearly, un-apologetically “ours and theirs ” !! In muslim and non muslim countries. Duas and thanks
Even after decades as christians ..reading My Wise Quran would convince you that Islam is the religion of truth . Flawless.. Vivid descriptions of Paradise.. and a hundred more. Using Scientific facts to convince the readers..so adjectives you would need over a hundred to describe this Majestic book.. authored by the lord of all the worlds unknown to mankind... since only about four percent of this universe is known..six others to baffle you into obedience. Salam and congrats brother. So only people of knowledge would revert to My Religion Islam. Almighty Allah the sole Creator and Giver of eternal life
the science in the quran has been discovered hundreds or even a thousand years before by scientists who wrote down all their findings. Like that the moon reflects the sun.. has been discoverd by Anaxagoras (500 BCE to 428 BCE). Only to then later had his discovery put into the quran. What is so special about a book that copies works from other people. this basically proofs that it copied findings from other people to mislead people into following islam.
As a person who was born and grew up in the Middle East, having lived in GCC and Levant contries, racism, classism, and sectarianism do most definitely exist. I have experienced it first hand as a non-Arab. Different countries and societies have different prejudices. However, because the teachings of Islam strongly prohibit prejudice, this prejudice isn't expressed overtly. Muslims aren't perfect, no one is, but for the most part they try their best to adhere to those teachings.
The first interview was an absolute treat and the second video is so interesting. I’m travelling to Oman for the first time this month for holiday. I can’t wait.
As a palestinian, I never forget the role of Great-Britain in helping to estahlish a jewish state in Palestine till the official creation of the state of Israël in 1948, along with the creation of multiple arab tyranic states affiliâted to the West till today
Why are you attacking 2 muslim men, what have they got to do with that. We stand with Palestine but not on the expenses of other Muslims . We all are struggling differently brother. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Maybe the Muslims of Arabian territories in the Ottoman Caliphate should not have rebelled against their Muslim brothers & joined with the British in WW1z
Its rather tragic and we all are saddened by that but you cant hold a grudge against these 2 gentlemen for decisions made by others several decades ago.
Allah intends Islam for all of humanity with all its cultures. Islam need not be Middle-Eastern in culture. I sincerely believe in Islam to the absolute core of my being (with Allah's help and mercy). But to be honest I grew up in the West and never really took to Middle-Eastern culture, though I am sympathetic to it. I sincerely believe and pray that the West can become Islamic while keeping the unique and positive aspects of its heritage. In fact I look forward to it.
يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ (13) O, people! We created you from a male and a female, and We made you races and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. The best among you before Allah is the most righteous. Allah is Knowing and Aware. As a Muslim, I was born and raised in Morocco until the age of 17, and for the past 30 years, I have been living in the West. I deeply appreciate the significance of this verse. Over the years, I've embraced the richness of both Moroccan and Dutch cultures, and I strive to instill this appreciation in my children, encouraging them to navigate and embrace the best of both worlds.
Wonderful discussion, thanks both. Both of you discussing ‘colour’ is fascinating and shows how education and interaction can allow us to overcome this, one of the oldest ignorance and prejudice between humans and a source of colour based discrimination.
And thanks for highlighting Racism in Muslim countries.Because a lot of the people think Racism is white and black problems. So mentioning that with those sad examples will open the eyes of a lot people. Thanks again Allaah Bless you and your families ALLAAHUMMA AAMIIN
I do not agree with Mr Yusuf saying at 32:53 " Islam sadly is not an exception of racism". The truth is " Muslims are not an exception of racism", not Islam. As you know Paul, there is not a single evidence that Islam supports Racism. When Muslims do not apply their religion, it is their problem, not Islam's problem. Please inform Mr Yousef of that, as I feel he has a solid belief in what he said.
Salaam Alaikum; thank you for your comment, and yes, I should have been clearer in my words; yes, the actions of some Muslims betray the beauty of Islam, especially in regard to race and the evil of racism. May Allah guide us all.
Born in Uk, lived in UK, educated in UK as an Islamic scholar what a beautiful thing. As a Turkish Muslim I find this idea so fascinating and I hope that this happens in every western country.
Every Westerners I hope....
Thank you very much for your comment, my Turkish muslim brother.
Turkish people are the best. ❤ From an Indian Muslim brother.
May Allah swt fulfil your wish. Aameen.
Paul Williams: "Jesus did not teach Christianity. He taught Islam."
_I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Jesus is the Messiah and the Messenger of God._ - John 17.3
W'Salaam Alaikum. Something I forgot to mention in the interview with Paul is this: The evil of racism and social stigma (the two are often intertwined) falls away when it comes to the Salah (prayer). Suddenly the Adhan (call to prayer) happens and we all file into the masjid (mosque), as I have just done here in Oman, and we file in line regardless of race, status, money, knowledge, age, etc..... I could literally be praying next to the poorest man on one side of me, and the richest man on the other....THIS is the beauty of Islam, the beauty of what our beloved Prophet (pbuh) spoke. We all, more than ever, need to be reminded of this. Alhamdulilah
Alhamdulillah. I have subscribed to your channel.
Love from your brother in faith.
Malaysia
Islam is so perfect, but it is the Muslim people who are at faulty. Your observation as regards the prayer in the nosque is spot on.
Beautifully said.
That is true of just about every religion because they want converts. You will not socialize with these people when you leave the mosque
NO “ladies’HIJAB” found in the Quran.
The word HIJAB is used in the Quran but not for ladies.
Check these Ayath/verses that they say have Hijab in them. (But not found)
In Quran 33.59 - “ … JILBAB over themselves…”
in Quran 24.31 - “… Khimar over the Jayb..”
The word is KHIMAR in the Quran.24.31
- Root Meaning of KHIMAR is just a COVERING,
it can also be a neck scarf, any scarf, dupatta, chadar, etc.
There is no head, hair, veil, niqab or any such importance in the Quran,
transliteration of Quran 24.31: “yadribna bi’Khumur’ihinna ala juyoob’ihinna”
[Plurals : khumur, juyoob]
Quran 24.31 (see the part of the verse they say has hijab )
// *..put forth the Khimars OVER THE JAYBs…*//
KHIMAR = COVERING
and
JAYB just means OPENING
- like an opening in a dress, deep-neck, like shirt pocket - is a jayb
To verify from the Quran
check this example in
//Quran 28.32 (part)
“…. yadaka fee jayb’ika …”. //
“… put your hand in your Jayb..” (clearly a pocket or opening in the dress)
(or) some people translate it as chest/ bosoms coz that’s where the Jayb is.
Look at where the importance is in the verse:
“COVERING over the Jayb”
- but the EXPLANATIONS of ‘Sect’ /Firqa leaders promoted the concept of ladies’HIJAB
- by adding it in books written much later after the Quran AND by adding words with brackets in translations and explanations - gradually shifting the importance of COVERING the Jayb
- giving importance away from the Jayb seems like distraction from the main emphasis.
- AND also these Firqa leaders wrote the Dictionary centuries later to push their meanings
- please ask them : when and who wrote the Dictionary that they show their meanings from?
We should not accept new meanings to the words after the word is used in the Quran
- in the present era the meanings can be understood by checking the same word usage within the Quran
- see where the word is used again.
QURAN is it’s own DICTIONARY within it - (by using the important words in other verses and locking the meanings).
They should know when the same root word is used for intoxicants even then it’s used for “COVER”
- - any intoxicant or alcohol
COVERS the ability INSIDE THE MIND - -
Please NOTE : khumur /intoxicants/ALCOHOL does NOT cover the HAIR or outer-head.
How can a religion claiming to be for the whole world - promote desert clothing for far off freezing lands?
They’re Spreading culture and calling it religion - They took the desert clothing that is needed in sand storms and called it religion
OTHER religious groups were ALREADY wearing it in the desert.
IF anyone wants TO FOLLOW WORDS OF ALLAH then they should verify with the Quran - coz every secondary source should match with the Quran
AND they should not add words in translations.
JILBAB:
Means any decent OUTER CLOTHING worn above the under-garments - it’s plural is JALABIB
The verse in the Quran 33.59 is about JILBAB - it’s about wearing outer clothing - where it also says that “they can be RECOGNISED and NOT HARASSED”
So the condition is to be recognised :
how will anyone RECOGNISE if you cover fully?
- So avoid tight clothing - it’s really simple as per Quran.
Wearing clothes that the security personnel and other people are scared of coz they cannot recognise the person inside - as a result you face difficulty and then that results in feeling harassed.
Check the verse Q.33.59 below and remember that some translations or interpretations have added words in brackets - so look at Arabic /or word-to-word translation to VERIFY, yes VERIFY.
“… alay’ihinna min jalabib’ihinna… “
--
//Quran 33.59
O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their JILBAB over themselves .
In this way it is more likely that they will be RECOGNISED
and not be HARASSED.
And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful//
--
Notice it’s only talking about properly covering themselves - there is NO emphasis on head, hair, face covering in this verse also.
-
Some of them will not VERIFY what is in the Quran - word by word.
And you may get to see how they will jump to start calling IGNORANT and names to the person showing them the research.
brother yusuf living in Oman for 10 years it makes me happy because that's my home country what a wonderful guest thank you dear teacher ❤️
Oman seems so lovely. We want to have a family holiday in Salalah in shaa Allah. Oman is being slept on. Its traditional with amazing architecture unlike some other gulf countries who have gone crazy with modernism lol
Very interesting both are converts
Ngl I'm looking to get nationality for OMAN 😂😂
I lived in Oman in 1997-2000. Age 8-12. Malaysian boy meets Arabian life. Wonderful times. How i miss Oman
@@Ahmed4zmidoes that happen?
Happy to listen as a Bangladeshi Muslim from Bangladesh.
I am also from Bangladesh
Hey, ma shaa'Allah ! I'm Nubian Egyptian sister with a white convert husband too! May Allah bless you and your beloved wife, ameen. ❤
MashAllah sister, that is very nice to know! I met my wife in London. Tell your husband he is very blessed to be married to a Nubian Egyptian :) Where did you meet? And do you live in Europe/US ....or elsewhere? Salaam
MashaAllah, hello fellow Egyptian sister, I'm from Cairo, may God bless your life, the examples of revert Muslim men and women I've seen are such wise educated people, although their journey was not easy but they value their faith more than most of born Muslims in my opinion.
رزقكم الله الخير والبركه
Thank you SO MUCH ! Cairo Um A'Dunya....mother of the world ! Salaam to you and everyone you love :)@@h.saied12
@@rogston39 Thank you so much for replying, I saw your reply to the Nubian sister but didn't realise you're the guest of the episode himself, I've started watching Dawah channels and revert Muslim stories only a short while ago and this really affected me. I actually aspire to reach that level of wisdom and knowledge that leads a person to change his faith and his entire path. God bless you and your beautiful family
The brother’s comment about how strong the Islamic community is reminded me of someone said that we, Muslims, we might have dysfunctional countries, but don’t have dysfunctional societies. As Islam has a powerful way of establishing strong communities and bring people together through daily prayer, marriage, funerals, Ramadan etc etc. and encourage people to look out for each other. People are suffering enormously from isolation and getting into depression in the Western countries. Islam has so much to offer if people have the humility to look into it.
So very true, so very true. I have just returned from a trip to Pakistan; politically, so much is wrong, but as a society founded upon , and proud of, their Islam, it was a deeply humbling experience. I left feeling a stronger Muslim, and all because of the countless "ordinary" people I met. Alhamdulilah
I'm a Bangladeshi.. I'm glad to know a Bangladeshi women had impact on his journey to islam❤
Haseena is a fasciste
Я родом из Таджикистана. Очень рад что вижу белые Мусульман. Пусть всевышний Аллах. Удволйт
Brother our skin color is have no relation with islam this religion is for human not for particular skin type people
Have a good day brother❤
@@ahteshamahmed4316 Perhaps because the majority of Islamophobes are white, he is happy that there are whites who convert to Islam
Asalamalaikum from the US 🇺🇸 This was an insightful 2nd interview with Yusuf Ogston. Thanks for sharing, Paul. Keep up the great work. 🇵🇸 Free Palestine 🇵🇸
wa alaikum assalam
আলহামদুলিল্লাহ। আমি একজন গর্বিত বাংলাদেশী মুসলিম❤❤❤ 🇧🇩🇧🇩 আপনাদের উভয়কে আল্লাহ উত্তম জাযা দান করুন।
Ameen
BD is a good country
Thank you Yusuf Ogston (Rev Russell Ogston) for sharing your journey as a muslim: You made very important distinctions. Born Muslims must unlearn their bias: Agreed with you on their social behavior: Palestine is a living example of Bias and injustice of our times.
May Allah SWT bless both of you and all of your families.
I feel so fortunate to listen to these two noble leaders of Islam .
Thank you br Paul for all you do
Thank you Mr. Williams for having Mr. Ogston. I think we need someone, who have embraced Islam, to remind us about the issue of the dominance of the social-driven attitudes over faith when it comes to treating others based on their skin color or social status! Very valid point.
Im from Malaysia & always follow Bro Paul discussion on Islam, I value your knowledge & research on Islam. It has enhancement my knowledge on Islam eventhough I am born muslim. Continue good discussion & dakwah. May Allah bless you sir….
Kan, bagus cara dakwah dia. Penuh berlimiah dan ketenangan, kalau di Malaysia ceramah agama kinda boring, ayuh berguru sama Brother Paul
Kan, bagus cara dakwah dia. Penuh berlimiah dan ketenangan, kalau di Malaysia ceramah agama kinda boring, ayuh berguru sama Brother Paul
Iklim agama di Malaysia berbeza sedikit....huhu😅
Your great guest speech is very clear I live in America and most of the time I struggle with British accent but he speaks very clearly I hope you make him a regular guest in your wonderful vlog
ALLAHU AKBAR ALHAMDULILLAH WHAT A BEAUTIFULL LIFE ALHAMDULILLAH YA ALLAH🤲☝️
What a great conversation with two great intellectual persons. Very interesting and informative. Thanks a lot.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Brother Paul, I am so glad you talked about this racism in Islam (more of cultural nature). We should take this menance heads on and keep challenging it until it's gone. (May not be fully eradicated but reduced to a point where it's not a norm)
Alhamdulillah!
This channel is a breath of fresh air for us muslim westerners embarrassed of our country’s leader’s. Islam is the hope of the decadence of the west. Alhamdulillah!
May اللہ bless both of u & your families & all the people around u.... & keep all of your generations to come on this right path....huge huge respect from pakistan....
Jazakumullah khayran
Am so happy Paul that you got brother Russell again, I remember the previous episode because it touched me very much very well spoken warm hearted person. I just want to affirm that there is unspoken racism found among Muslims, but its a very wrong action, Islam as a religion is very clear in that, and no matter how racist a person is in his heart Islam brings him down to his face right next to a person of all colors in Mosques. Islam IS perfect. Muslims arent :) Thank you again Paul for a very nice conversation.
May Allah bless you br. Yusuf.
Ma shaa Allah! Allah Gudie whom He wills without account.. welcome to Islam
I grew up in the UAE, a very multicultural society. As per my experience, there is no discrimination based on the colour of one's skin in and of itself. We have indigenous Iraqi, Syrian and Palestinian Muslims who are blonde with gray eyes, and sometimes even ginger. And we have other Palestinian, North African and Gulf Muslims who are mostly brown, some Muslims from thy gulf are black, while Muslims from Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria, Mali etc too are black. So it really isn't easy to say so and so is an "English Muslim" just by looking at someone.
Honestly, if I didn't know the two of you, and I saw you brothers at a mosque in UAE, I'd assume you both to be from Levant or Gulf.
Unfortunately, there is sometimes discrimination based on language or based on nationality, but not based on race. (My experience)
May Allah bless us all and forgive us for our shortcomings.
Bro in UAE as per my experience it’s white skin regarded as noble and higher Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi are outcasts and blacks are untouchable. It happened to me because of skin color the Arabs didn’t even entered in the elevator if they find me alone in the elevator but it wasn’t the case when find a white person. We Muslims have tendency of putting the issues under the rug.
@@maaz87 LIke the brother said, it's not so much about color but more about ethnicity.There are a lot of brown, deep brown and black Arabs and they don't get that treatment. It's ethnicity and also economic class. It's more of a Gulf issue (but not only a Gulf Arab issue) and certainly not all Gulf Arabs are like that. And yes, White European converts do have preferential treatment.
Please, let’s be honest. Racism does exist among Muslims in Muslim countries and among those who settle in the West. As an African-American I am no stranger to the feel and scent of racism and very much experienced it in Saudi Arabia for the nearly four years I resided there. There is a toxic, distasteful color consciousness that exists among Muslims and we can pretend it doesn’t exist because we know it shouldn’t but it is there and it is palpable.
Alhumdulillah for Islam ❤, May the Creator grant us Jannat Al Firdaus, May we Meet there!
Aameen Ya Rabbul Alameen
May Almighty Allah Bless and Reward Both of You in this Life and in the Hereafter.
MASHA ALLAH MABROOK
Welcome 2 Islam brother from your sister in America !
Br Yusuf what beautiful words i can listen to you all day long, Allah bless you for the beautiful heart and integrity you have. Please continue these amazing discussions.
What a beautiful episode
May Allah bless him and you both and the rest of humanity on the earth and wish him success and happiness in his life and your life, best of luck in his journey towards humanity, freedom, justice, equality , especially justice for Palestinians in Palestine ❤❤❤.
I just love such videos. Thank you for these videos. Keep going
Interesting conversation.
May allah protect and keep him steadfast ❤
Hafeez from Malaysia here. I like how brother Yusuf speaks very clearly and crisply to me as a non native speaker.
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
Assalamu alaikom
Such a beautiful surprise to see u again Yusuf, and hear parts of your journey to Islam, that really put a smile on my face and brought incredibly beautiful memories me and my husband had in Oman with u and ur beautiful wife and lovely children (May Allah bless u all)
Its quiet fascinating that u have detected cracks in yhe system early on before even becoming a Muslim, as its a sad reality in the west how enslaving people become the norm u der the illusion of fake freedom and so called democracy, which led to many vicitms that u have witness throught ur work as a priest
May Allah reward u as u r a very descent person along with ur family
Hope to see u and ur lovely family again soon in shaa Allah
Alaikum Salaam to you both :) Thank you so much for your kind words, and indeed you are right...."the illusion of fake freedom and so called democracy...." . Every blessing to you there :)
Thank you for sharing this beautiful video
The reverts are so precious ❤
Salaam Aliakum waramotullah wabarakatuh, jazakallah khayran, love you both, Islam is beautiful, 🙏
I really appreciated the informative content in that episode, it was great! . May Allah increase us in the knowledge of His deen🤲🏽
"You cannot replicate human compassion with systems" 40:30, great quote!
I am from Malaysia...
I appreciate your kuliah and input too
Masha Allah; may Allah bless him.
I great you my big brother in the name of allah you chennal always i get something to be happay my allah bless you
Mashallah brother Paul bringing us closer and closer to Allah with these videos may Allah reward you with good deeds and jannah to you and yo all of us ameen
Excellent video thanks a lot 😊 🙏
Once you are a muslim, the pulling of brotherhood starts. Prophet p.b.u.h said, "pulling one another "❤
SUBHAANALLAAH that’s so Amazing to see both of you, May ALLAH GUIDE us all to the straight path Aammeen 🤲🏼
As salaam o alaikum brothers Paul and Yusuf, thank you for this deeply stimulating conversation.
I just wanted to add my two cents on the subject of racism and deep set prejudice that brother Yusuf felt living in the Middle East. I am a Muslim, born and raised in Pakistan, who then got the opportunity to move around a bit.. lived in Malaysia for 5 yrs, then Bahrain for another 7 years, and Canada for the last 4 yrs.
Throughout this journey, I experienced Islam in various colors. In South Asia, there is a deep social divide that transcends color, I believe. So, growing up, at home, we had domestic helpers who were treated in many ways, similar to what Brother Yusuf described. But they were Pakistanis, brown and muslim like us.
The same pervasive class system I witnessed in the Arab world. The only difference was probably that Middle Eastern Arabs seem to suffer a superiority complex towards all other non-arab muslims of color..be they from Egypt, Sudan, or Bangladesh.
It was in Southeast Asia that I actually felt Islam, in the real sense. We had muslims from Pakistan/India, Iran, Sri Lanka, Jordon, Scotland, Indonesia, and surprisingly, we were all treated with same deference and politeness.
I am no scholar but maybe these varied experiences are more a reflection of the social system of these regions that somehow supercede their belief system?
wa alaikum assalam
How lovely to see two revert brothers having an enlightening discussion, thank you for sharing your experiences 🙌
May Allah bless you and sunnah of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him warm our hearts ❤
“You cannot replicate human compassion with systems” perfectly describes modern western society
Seeing many Christians convert to Islam, despite their different cultures and degrees of education, some of them are priest, pastors and theologians, and not seeing an equivalent of this on the Muslim side, even among those who live in the West who are supposed to be influenced by the environment and the cultural pressure, with the media attacking Islam that doesn’t stop, is something for Christians to think about.
“It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allāh dislike it.” (9/33)
Like example, Priest Vladimir Ugryumov from Russia, Gould David from Australia, Hilarion Heagy from America, and brother Paul himself is a respected theologian.
Yes, we need to raise our voices for peoples interest. We need leaders to stand beside less privileged people. Compassionate and Enlightened ones must come forward in politics.
سبحان الله 🕌
الحمدالله 🌺
لا أله ألا الله 🕋
الله أكبر 🌺
لا حولا قوة ألا بالله 🕌
استغفر الله 🕋
Thanks!
Many thanks
Very informative.jazakAllah to the teo brothers
Thanks so much for your doing your part and showing the way of the truth
Masha allah that is good decision
Welcom to the islamic nation brother 🇲🇦🇵🇸🇲🇦🇵🇸🇲🇦🇵🇸
AlhamduliLlah.....hopefully consistent in Islamic belief 🤲🤲🙏
It’s heart filling to listening to these beautiful stories of our bro/sis in Islam❤ I lived most my life in UK (London) got married and moved to Birmingham. Lived in Birmingham over 10years since 2010. My children are thus brommies🎉
Finally live now in egypt 🇪🇬
I have many connections with Brother Yusuf. May Allah keep us all firm in this beautiful faith (a gift from the Almighty) aameen.
W'Salaam Alaikum, thank you so much for your kind words. I lived in Birmingham and studied there. I lived near the University and then in Handsworth :) Great memories. I was in Cairo in 2011 - 2012; an amazing time....not always easy but if you can thrive in Cairo, you can thrive anywhere :)
Thanks!🙏 for all you do
Many thanks!
Thank you again Paul, you look really tired i hope you're healthy and happy. Take care of yourself❤
MashaAllah
Very balanced and a sincere deep thought provoking articulation of affairs and behaviors. We are struggling to understand but also express the worldwide cross cultural “new islam” encounters, and you both discussed it very clearly, un-apologetically “ours and theirs ” !! In muslim and non muslim countries.
Duas and thanks
❤❤❤welcome back
Enlightening discussion. Thanks to both of you.
Even after decades as christians ..reading My Wise Quran would convince you that Islam is the religion of truth . Flawless.. Vivid descriptions of Paradise.. and a hundred more. Using Scientific facts to convince the readers..so adjectives you would need over a hundred to describe this Majestic book.. authored by the lord of all the worlds unknown to mankind... since only about four percent of this universe is known..six others to baffle you into obedience. Salam and congrats brother. So only people of knowledge would revert to My Religion Islam. Almighty Allah the sole Creator and Giver of eternal life
the science in the quran has been discovered hundreds or even a thousand years before by scientists who wrote down all their findings. Like that the moon reflects the sun.. has been discoverd by Anaxagoras (500 BCE to 428 BCE). Only to then later had his discovery put into the quran. What is so special about a book that copies works from other people. this basically proofs that it copied findings from other people to mislead people into following islam.
I love both of those sirs in the sake of Allah , may Allah give them the highest paradise
Interesting conversation❤
Allah huma bareek, amazing
Iam proud to see such great Muslims with great idea mashalah welhamdulilah.
MashaAllah brother for accepting and REVERTED to ISLAM congratulations ALHAMDULLILLAH AMEEN
May allmighty Allah bless you.
😁.. MashaAllah.. Allhamdulillah..
Thanks for your sharing..😍👍🏽
Salam from Jakarta..✍️🇮🇩
As a person who was born and grew up in the Middle East, having lived in GCC and Levant contries, racism, classism, and sectarianism do most definitely exist. I have experienced it first hand as a non-Arab. Different countries and societies have different prejudices. However, because the teachings of Islam strongly prohibit prejudice, this prejudice isn't expressed overtly. Muslims aren't perfect, no one is, but for the most part they try their best to adhere to those teachings.
Alhamdulillah it's so beautiful explanation
mashaallah what a guy may Allah bless both of u
The first interview was an absolute treat and the second video is so interesting. I’m travelling to Oman for the first time this month for holiday. I can’t wait.
La Hawla Wa La Quwatta Illa Billa
May Allah strengthen our minds like these gentlemen scholars, ameen.
Sahadetin Mubarak olsun Allahin secilmis kulu
So wonderful really
Inspirational journey; very nice to listen to♡.."Unlearning in order to learn"
As a palestinian, I never forget the role of Great-Britain in helping to estahlish a jewish state in Palestine till the official creation of the state of Israël in 1948, along with the creation of multiple arab tyranic states affiliâted to the West till today
what does that have to do withy the video
Why are you attacking 2 muslim men, what have they got to do with that. We stand with Palestine but not on the expenses of other Muslims . We all are struggling differently brother. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@@lisaa19861 exactly
Maybe the Muslims of Arabian territories in the Ottoman Caliphate should not have rebelled against their Muslim brothers & joined with the British in WW1z
Its rather tragic and we all are saddened by that but you cant hold a grudge against these 2 gentlemen for decisions made by others several decades ago.
Allah intends Islam for all of humanity with all its cultures. Islam need not be Middle-Eastern in culture. I sincerely believe in Islam to the absolute core of my being (with Allah's help and mercy). But to be honest I grew up in the West and never really took to Middle-Eastern culture, though I am sympathetic to it. I sincerely believe and pray that the West can become Islamic while keeping the unique and positive aspects of its heritage. In fact I look forward to it.
يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَاكُمْ شُعُوبًا وَقَبَائِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوا ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ اللَّهِ أَتْقَاكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌ (13)
O, people! We created you from a male and a female, and We made you races and tribes, so that you may come to know one another. The best among you before Allah is the most righteous. Allah is Knowing and Aware.
As a Muslim, I was born and raised in Morocco until the age of 17, and for the past 30 years, I have been living in the West. I deeply appreciate the significance of this verse. Over the years, I've embraced the richness of both Moroccan and Dutch cultures, and I strive to instill this appreciation in my children, encouraging them to navigate and embrace the best of both worlds.
Alhamdulillah and welcome Thanks Brother ❤
Wonderful discussion, thanks both. Both of you discussing ‘colour’ is fascinating and shows how education and interaction can allow us to overcome this, one of the oldest ignorance and prejudice between humans and a source of colour based discrimination.
Love you brothers for the sake of ALLĀH Alone....
And thanks for highlighting Racism in Muslim countries.Because a lot of the people think Racism is white and black problems.
So mentioning that with those sad examples will open the eyes of a lot people.
Thanks again Allaah Bless you and your families ALLAAHUMMA AAMIIN
New subscriber. Regards from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
MASHAALLAH ❤❤
Freedom for Palestine and Gaza ❤
I do not agree with Mr Yusuf saying at 32:53 " Islam sadly is not an exception of racism". The truth is " Muslims are not an exception of racism", not Islam. As you know Paul, there is not a single evidence that Islam supports Racism. When Muslims do not apply their religion, it is their problem, not Islam's problem. Please inform Mr Yousef of that, as I feel he has a solid belief in what he said.
Salaam Alaikum; thank you for your comment, and yes, I should have been clearer in my words; yes, the actions of some Muslims betray the beauty of Islam, especially in regard to race and the evil of racism. May Allah guide us all.
As a French white Muslim , would you say that there are more and more white Muslims in Uk ?
Thans for shering
May Allah swt grant you and all of us jannat ul firdaus