Oh and RIP to Mount Mutombo. He was one of the players I got into basketball watching when he was in Denver and he was such an inspiration to not only kids here in America but in his homeland in the jungles of the Congo. Go block some shots in heaven big guy.
It’s weird how quickly great players can fall out of peoples good graces so quickly. Do we all forget what he did to the lakers first round? Guy’s a killer.
He has had his series no doubt, but you can't have multiple overpaid players with today's cap. AG or MPJ is likely gone by the deadline or they lose AG for nothing, and if they try to keep all 4 of the top 4 they'll only have $25m about to stay under the 2nd apron. Who do you pay to get rid of, on top of being unable to use the MLE because it's likely too expensive.
@@malooch if you have $100 dollars total to spend on groceries this month what are you willing to give up eating to keep yourself eating as balanced of a diet possible for the entire month to stay healthy? It's just budgeting, you only have so much money to spend. I have a more detailed breakdown on another comment of why the cap is about to destroy the Nuggets.
His series against the Lakers in round 1 was absolute TRASH. Like, one of the worst volume shooting series of all time. The games were only close because Murray was absolutely terrible. They damn near almost lost the series because he started damn near every game 3-18. Just say you didn't watch it and know he hit game winners bro.
My issue with that contract isn't necessarily with Murray, its that the Nuggets will have 3 guys for around $140 million, and 2 of them can't stay healthy in Murray and MPJ. Then add in AGs next deal that will likely be $35m, he is more valuable than MPJ is to me by far, and you're around $175 on what is likely a $200m 2nd apron on the cap. So then you look at Braun for $5m, Watson at $4.3m, Holmes at $3.2m and Strawther at $2.6m for a total of $15m added to the $175m above is $190m for just 8 guys. So you have to basically sign 7 undrafted rookies to fit under that $10m each for just over $1m and pay to trade away Nnaji, Pickett, and Tyson because you cant afford them or go into the 2nd apron which takes 1st round picks they traded away till 2031. Also means they can't use the MLE which Saric is on or keep Westbrooks vet minimum deal past this year. So you're betting on Jokic carrying them, Murray and MPJ staying healthy, and Gordon past 30 also staying healthy? To go with Braun, Watson, Holmes, and Strawther who would need to make big jumps by next season and pray a couple of undrafted kids can contribute if anyone is injured? This new cap means you can only have 1 bad salary before you lose a lot of depth and the Nuggets have MPJs bad salary on the books, which he recently said was distracting him from the game of basketball. So MPJ or AG is gone likely by the trade deadline, or Denver risks losing AG for nothing.
Let me just give an example from football, did you know Brady took pay cuts most of his career in New England so he could have a better team around him? But MPJ is complaining he got paid and it's distracting him from playing his best.😂
It's also a garbage contract. Dude has already burned arguably 3, but not arguably 2, years of Jokic prime already. Dude can't run a bench unit and looks terrible when Joks not on the floor. Unironically he was hardly better than Reggie Jackson running the second unit. Dude hasn't played over 65 games in FIVE YEARS, and 2 of those he was just straight injured for the season. Hes injury prone, and already looks to be slowing down due to those injuries. Hes also the first player in NBA history to be given two max contracts without ever making an all star team. There's no other team in the NBA, especially under the new cap, who would even think about giving Murray $50m a year. Its a joke, and the Nuggets have burned a top 10 player all time's entire prime strapping him to a #2 who should be a #3. Jok will never play with another true all star, absolute failure team management. Also that whole "playoffs merchant" shit is fake and really didn't show up last season. Dude had one of the worst volume shooting playoffs in NBA history, has no burst, nothing.
All those guards you compared Jamal with that are getting to the FT line much more than him have one thing in common. Never got seriously injured before like Jamal did. Before ACL injury he was not hesitant at all to attack the rim like he is now. Also, he is not as athletic, so even when he makes those type of moves, usually they end badly with bunch of blocked shots rather than fouls because he is not as qucik/agile as he was.
My interest in the NBA dwindled over the years, and thus I've been following a lot less channels that cover it; but I love your content and never miss it.
Well... We'll see, I suppose. I usually like your videos and agree with you on most things - however, I've lost my faith in Jamal during the past 15 months. I was rooting for him for years and wanted him to really become that "2nd star" we all hoped he'll be. But, the past 15 months told me something about him that makes me think he'll never get there. He came to the season completely unprepared, out-of-shape, overweight... and with ZERO positive change in his attitude (watch his pressers over the years and you'll see an arrogant, big-headed child). He thought he'll get in shape by playing, but he's just NOT that material - and injuries ensued. Never got in proper shape, was always completely exhausted in 1st qtr, and lost all his quickness and speed. And his shooting followed. Between DNPs, restricted minutes, poor plays when available... his "game" completely disappeared. The way he played in the POs and in Paris were just a continuation of a steep trend of degradation - ending with a CLEAR g-league profile/contribution. I hope you're right. I'm not betting on it, but I hope you're right. Jamal has mental and character issues - and I'm not sure that he can fix them in short 2 months. Or ever.
You get it, man. Dude doesn't have the right mentality and I think he bought into the hype about "playoff merchant." I also think he's kind of abusing the position he and the Nuggets organization is in. There is not a single other team who would even think about giving Murray $50m, ESPECIALLY in the new cap. Its an absolute tragedy that Jokic entire prime will be strapped to this dude, and Jok will never play with another true all-star. Just brutal. He has everything to be a top 10 (and not 10) player all-time, but he'll never get there due to team management. Murray is the first player in NBA history to get 2 max contracts while not making an all-star team. The first one. All this coming off a season he was out of shape and it led to him having built up injuries and throwing YET ANOTHER season of Jokic prime, making it three seasons now. To make it worse he's playing terrible and ends up throwing shit on the court and at refs during the game. That attitude is because hes an egotistic dude who doesnt work hard, and ofc is rewarded with $50m a season. If Jok wins another ring, fans will never understand how monumental an achievement that would be with this dude as his number 2. Again, tragic.
@@daddyfuse50 yes. all true. Nuggets owners/FO and the puppet GM are wasting Jokic's prime. Just throwing it away. TBH - they insulted Jokic, and us fans, at the end of the last season with LIES like "when you have the best player on the planet, you have to go for it" (kroenke) and "im the steward of Jokic's prime" (booth). They LIED to him, they LIED to us. It's so disappointing that Jokic is in this franchise. But, I'll try to be optimistic. Who knows - maybe Jamal will mature and figure it out quickly - and become what we all hoped he'll be. Maybe... Slim chance, but maybe. I decided not to watch Nuggets games and not give a single cent to Kroenkes - no subscriptions, no tickets, no merch... ZERO. I'll watch Jokic, AG, RW and MPJ highlights on youtube. I hope RW has a great season.
My issue with Jamal is that he got a issue with understanding went to switch it up and just stop relaying on jump shooting. Like surely you can the human touch, but if those nights where the shots aren't going in i want him to identify that, adapt his game and start attacking the basketball and look for those free throws. Get and take the easier shots and one he get himself going off that he can go back to shooting to see if he revived his flow. Jamal is all star, but he's just bad adapting his game mid way and is bad taking what the game is giving him. You see Jokic try some 3's. Didn't go in?. Cut it off and attack the basket. If the basket is rough that night he adapt and start taking mids and 3's. Jamal just need to learn adaptation.
The Nuggets had no other option. If they don't resign him, they are still over the cap and can't sign anyone. If he is cooked, then they can't trade him for value. The Nuggets just need Murray to get healthy, and ball out. If he doesn't or can't, they lose that value in any scenario.
Also the main reason Denver was down every game against the Lakers. Started damn near every game 3-18. Lost the Wolves series almost by himself. We'll that, and MPJ forgetting how to shoot as well.
That's true but are we going to let 1 series and 5 games in the olympics erase 3 years of playoff and regular season basketball that suggests he's a very good point guard? This is exactly what I mean when I say people are wrong about Jamal. 10 games vs 200 games
@@6manYT it's never about what you did before. It's not even about where you are right now. It's about WHERE YOU'RE GOING. Jamal's trajectory/trend in the past 15 months is the only thing we can rely on. And it's not going in the right direction.
Oh and RIP to Mount Mutombo. He was one of the players I got into basketball watching when he was in Denver and he was such an inspiration to not only kids here in America but in his homeland in the jungles of the Congo. Go block some shots in heaven big guy.
I love this man because he glazes some of my favorite players in the NBA
It’s weird how quickly great players can fall out of peoples good graces so quickly. Do we all forget what he did to the lakers first round? Guy’s a killer.
He has had his series no doubt, but you can't have multiple overpaid players with today's cap. AG or MPJ is likely gone by the deadline or they lose AG for nothing, and if they try to keep all 4 of the top 4 they'll only have $25m about to stay under the 2nd apron. Who do you pay to get rid of, on top of being unable to use the MLE because it's likely too expensive.
@@FrankM-u1w I’m too dumb to understand or care about all that. I know basketball and I know dude can hoop. But I’m sure you’re right as well.
@@malooch if you have $100 dollars total to spend on groceries this month what are you willing to give up eating to keep yourself eating as balanced of a diet possible for the entire month to stay healthy? It's just budgeting, you only have so much money to spend.
I have a more detailed breakdown on another comment of why the cap is about to destroy the Nuggets.
@@FrankM-u1w I gotcha
His series against the Lakers in round 1 was absolute TRASH. Like, one of the worst volume shooting series of all time. The games were only close because Murray was absolutely terrible. They damn near almost lost the series because he started damn near every game 3-18. Just say you didn't watch it and know he hit game winners bro.
He deserves more credit than he gets. Only Joker and him were the two interesting players in denver before their championship.
Still overpaid given the new salary cap rules.
100% agreed, MPJ is also way overpaid and he complains that payday is distracting him...😠
@@FrankM-u1wI think they are gonna trade him eventually. Someone has to go from the roster.
My issue with that contract isn't necessarily with Murray, its that the Nuggets will have 3 guys for around $140 million, and 2 of them can't stay healthy in Murray and MPJ. Then add in AGs next deal that will likely be $35m, he is more valuable than MPJ is to me by far, and you're around $175 on what is likely a $200m 2nd apron on the cap.
So then you look at Braun for $5m, Watson at $4.3m, Holmes at $3.2m and Strawther at $2.6m for a total of $15m added to the $175m above is $190m for just 8 guys.
So you have to basically sign 7 undrafted rookies to fit under that $10m each for just over $1m and pay to trade away Nnaji, Pickett, and Tyson because you cant afford them or go into the 2nd apron which takes 1st round picks they traded away till 2031. Also means they can't use the MLE which Saric is on or keep Westbrooks vet minimum deal past this year.
So you're betting on Jokic carrying them, Murray and MPJ staying healthy, and Gordon past 30 also staying healthy? To go with Braun, Watson, Holmes, and Strawther who would need to make big jumps by next season and pray a couple of undrafted kids can contribute if anyone is injured?
This new cap means you can only have 1 bad salary before you lose a lot of depth and the Nuggets have MPJs bad salary on the books, which he recently said was distracting him from the game of basketball.
So MPJ or AG is gone likely by the trade deadline, or Denver risks losing AG for nothing.
Let me just give an example from football, did you know Brady took pay cuts most of his career in New England so he could have a better team around him? But MPJ is complaining he got paid and it's distracting him from playing his best.😂
yap it up
ag and mpj are not leaving lol
It's also a garbage contract. Dude has already burned arguably 3, but not arguably 2, years of Jokic prime already. Dude can't run a bench unit and looks terrible when Joks not on the floor. Unironically he was hardly better than Reggie Jackson running the second unit. Dude hasn't played over 65 games in FIVE YEARS, and 2 of those he was just straight injured for the season. Hes injury prone, and already looks to be slowing down due to those injuries. Hes also the first player in NBA history to be given two max contracts without ever making an all star team. There's no other team in the NBA, especially under the new cap, who would even think about giving Murray $50m a year. Its a joke, and the Nuggets have burned a top 10 player all time's entire prime strapping him to a #2 who should be a #3. Jok will never play with another true all star, absolute failure team management.
Also that whole "playoffs merchant" shit is fake and really didn't show up last season. Dude had one of the worst volume shooting playoffs in NBA history, has no burst, nothing.
@@kachigakachiga please finish school so I don't laugh when I see your preschool education.
12 minutes and only 110 views only. Bro fell off. Jk
I admire the courage it took you to turn on face cam 🔥
Regardless of his skill set and exceptional contribution to the Nuggets, 208 million dollars is absolutely absurd.
I'm not sold on Murray, but I want to be proven wrong.
1:07 face reveal?
All those guards you compared Jamal with that are getting to the FT line much more than him have one thing in common. Never got seriously injured before like Jamal did. Before ACL injury he was not hesitant at all to attack the rim like he is now. Also, he is not as athletic, so even when he makes those type of moves, usually they end badly with bunch of blocked shots rather than fouls because he is not as qucik/agile as he was.
My interest in the NBA dwindled over the years, and thus I've been following a lot less channels that cover it; but I love your content and never miss it.
0:33 nothing about his game is regular (season), it's all post
Bars
I will hear no Jamal slander! Nug 4 lyfe.
Thx for the vid
It's easy to guard when opponent knows what you gonna do... bro need to add more to his arsenal
jamal is a great player, hes underrated now, love your vids 6man
Facecam 🔥🔥
Thanks for putting some respect on this man’s game
face cam and murray prop wow im spoiled, Christmas came earky
Minor spelling error
Hahaha goat
Let’s come back to this video in 12 months….
Well... We'll see, I suppose.
I usually like your videos and agree with you on most things - however, I've lost my faith in Jamal during the past 15 months.
I was rooting for him for years and wanted him to really become that "2nd star" we all hoped he'll be.
But, the past 15 months told me something about him that makes me think he'll never get there.
He came to the season completely unprepared, out-of-shape, overweight... and with ZERO positive change in his attitude (watch his pressers over the years and you'll see an arrogant, big-headed child).
He thought he'll get in shape by playing, but he's just NOT that material - and injuries ensued. Never got in proper shape, was always completely exhausted in 1st qtr, and lost all his quickness and speed. And his shooting followed.
Between DNPs, restricted minutes, poor plays when available... his "game" completely disappeared.
The way he played in the POs and in Paris were just a continuation of a steep trend of degradation - ending with a CLEAR g-league profile/contribution.
I hope you're right. I'm not betting on it, but I hope you're right.
Jamal has mental and character issues - and I'm not sure that he can fix them in short 2 months. Or ever.
You get it, man. Dude doesn't have the right mentality and I think he bought into the hype about "playoff merchant." I also think he's kind of abusing the position he and the Nuggets organization is in. There is not a single other team who would even think about giving Murray $50m, ESPECIALLY in the new cap. Its an absolute tragedy that Jokic entire prime will be strapped to this dude, and Jok will never play with another true all-star. Just brutal. He has everything to be a top 10 (and not 10) player all-time, but he'll never get there due to team management.
Murray is the first player in NBA history to get 2 max contracts while not making an all-star team. The first one. All this coming off a season he was out of shape and it led to him having built up injuries and throwing YET ANOTHER season of Jokic prime, making it three seasons now. To make it worse he's playing terrible and ends up throwing shit on the court and at refs during the game. That attitude is because hes an egotistic dude who doesnt work hard, and ofc is rewarded with $50m a season. If Jok wins another ring, fans will never understand how monumental an achievement that would be with this dude as his number 2. Again, tragic.
@@daddyfuse50 yes. all true. Nuggets owners/FO and the puppet GM are wasting Jokic's prime. Just throwing it away.
TBH - they insulted Jokic, and us fans, at the end of the last season with LIES like "when you have the best player on the planet, you have to go for it" (kroenke) and "im the steward of Jokic's prime" (booth).
They LIED to him, they LIED to us.
It's so disappointing that Jokic is in this franchise.
But, I'll try to be optimistic. Who knows - maybe Jamal will mature and figure it out quickly - and become what we all hoped he'll be. Maybe... Slim chance, but maybe.
I decided not to watch Nuggets games and not give a single cent to Kroenkes - no subscriptions, no tickets, no merch... ZERO. I'll watch Jokic, AG, RW and MPJ highlights on youtube. I hope RW has a great season.
Ah yes.. his pull-out game is strong 2:56
My issue with Jamal is that he got a issue with understanding went to switch it up and just stop relaying on jump shooting.
Like surely you can the human touch, but if those nights where the shots aren't going in i want him to identify that, adapt his game and start attacking the basketball and look for those free throws. Get and take the easier shots and one he get himself going off that he can go back to shooting to see if he revived his flow.
Jamal is all star, but he's just bad adapting his game mid way and is bad taking what the game is giving him. You see Jokic try some 3's. Didn't go in?. Cut it off and attack the basket. If the basket is rough that night he adapt and start taking mids and 3's.
Jamal just need to learn adaptation.
Completely agree with you Romnys
The Nuggets had no other option. If they don't resign him, they are still over the cap and can't sign anyone. If he is cooked, then they can't trade him for value. The Nuggets just need Murray to get healthy, and ball out. If he doesn't or can't, they lose that value in any scenario.
finally someone who understands
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He’s the main reason they lost the series against the Timberwolves and the main reason Canada lost to France in the Olympics
he was injured bruh
Also the main reason Denver was down every game against the Lakers. Started damn near every game 3-18. Lost the Wolves series almost by himself. We'll that, and MPJ forgetting how to shoot as well.
@@daddyfuse50 d1 hatee
That's true but are we going to let 1 series and 5 games in the olympics erase 3 years of playoff and regular season basketball that suggests he's a very good point guard? This is exactly what I mean when I say people are wrong about Jamal. 10 games vs 200 games
@@6manYT it's never about what you did before. It's not even about where you are right now.
It's about WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
Jamal's trajectory/trend in the past 15 months is the only thing we can rely on. And it's not going in the right direction.