PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER RIPS MY PHOTOS TO SHREDS!!! (The Truth About Photography)
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I asked Professional Baseball Photographer Brand Mangin to critique some of my latest baseball photos. We went from the approach that he was a photo editor for a magazine and was going to tell me what's good, what's bad and what's great. This is how a critique is done!!! Very few photographers will open themselves up to a critique and share the entire process with you, I will. I do this to help everyone learn and get better.
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PRO PHOTOGRAPHER Told Me MY Photos SUCKED!!!
Professional Photographer RIPS MY PHOTOS TO SHREDS!!!
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Thanks everyone for watching this video. Yes I sure do blab on and on and on. Sorry about that! I tightened it up a bit for the part two video from Wrigley Field. I had a blast doing this with Jared. Takes lots of guts for someone with such a high public persona like Jared to bare is soul in public like this for the sake of education on his RUclips channel he he was a great sport about everything. I absolutely love talking about photography and teaching. What you see on this video is real- that's me. I aint gonna sugarcoat anything but I really was not hard on him- we were having fun talking about pictures. This is how we all learn. You would shit if you heard some of the stories of what photographers used to go through getting their work critiqued before the world became so "nice." Anyway- this is all about having fun and tryin g to learn to take better pictures. I have been shooting big league ball since 1987 and still learn every single day I shoot a game. I am not kidding. Keeps it fun and exciting. Have fun out there. And move around. Go up. Go down. and remember what the great Walter Iooss always said, "I look around to see where all the other photographers are- and I go someplace else."
Your insight is priceless, and your delivery appears honest and genuine. THANK YOU. I’ll be re-examining some of f my galleries as well as refining my approach.
This is great! Baseball and photography… could listen to you guys for hours!
No apologies needed. Even when you were “blabbing” you were dropping gems. 💎 As a sports photographer I enjoyed every minute of it!
Hey Brad what camera system do you use?
@@truthkeeperfilms I shoot Canon.
These are the type of videos that most photographers will never show you. The ones where we let you behind the curtain to see how the bread is made. In this case, I selected images for Brad to critique and let him go to town on them. Enjoy.
This is why I like your videos. Seeing stuff like this is rare.
You're not gonna like what I have to say but try to stop yourself from trying justifying why you took the photo the way you did because it's making Jared not want to critic you as harsh as he was. At the end of the day its up to you to decide if its an amazing photo. That all being said to put this online brings the photography game to the next level!! Learnt so much from this video so thank you!!
Thanks! Can't wait for pt 2
You've put yourself out there Jared. Full respect.
… that was a hard learning lesson in sports photography. 😏
"All my cameras are 10yrs old" - 💀 I loved that.
Just proof that it’s never been about the gear. Dollars to donuts, you got something made after 2012… it shouldn’t be in the way of you making a great photo.
If this makes any sense, I'm only 12 minutes in, and this is already the most true feeling of real photography talk I've ever seen on RUclips. Can't wait for the critique👍👍.
Dude, Brad Mangin gave you a killer assignment. 4x5 portraits of the players is such a great idea that I would pre-order that book yesterday
So damn keen for this.
Gotta say… absolutely one of my favorite shows. Keeping Brad focused was a real chore. I learned quite a bit. Would love to watch a similar for Landscaping, Portraits, Bird Watching, Street Photography etc. Putting yourself out there was really cool! And that’s why I’ve been watching your program for 3 years. That’s why you add incredible value to your channel. Not afraid to put things on the table.
Just getting started watching this and I'm going to listen to the rest on my way to the ballpark. Brad speaks my language. This might be my favorite video you made as it speaks volumes to me as primarily a pro baseball photographer. I'll be watching this over and over for days. God, I'd love to have a critique from Brad.
I love this because the reactions Jared has to his critiques are how I feel many people feel when getting critiqued. Glad to know I’m not the only one that wants to give some context and reasoning when getting looked at. Thanks for sharing this video!
And Mangin makes the great and necessary point that no one cares about the context of the challenges the shooter faced. All that matters is, does the photo work or not? It’s THE hardest lesson to learn.
Him saying "I'm not a big gear guy, I'm all about the pictures".... that says a lot to me, Wow.
Dude I've been watching your videos for a few years and learning. You're a bad ass photographer and it's cool that you can still get on here and still take critique from somebody. That's the stuff other guys won't show. This was dope
Terrific conversation with a grizzled pro. I was fascinated by his encyclopedic knowledge of the habits and motions of individual players and the flow of the game. Similar to wildlife photography where you have to know your subjects thoroughly, he does the same. Fantastic insights. Thanks for doing this.
This was so good. Learned so much. Remembering how batters hit just wow. The foresight and knowledge needed really shows.
Jared, the gear reviews are fun to watch. This was so real. I don’t have a love for baseball but after this, I have a new appreciation. Thanks for putting yourself out there and sharing with us. It takes balls to go out and do this. Nice job.
Wow. This is a fantastic video in so many ways. First of all, as a budding photographer, there is a ton of great information to be dissected here. Secondly, as a current public school (middle school) educator, I fully appreciate you willingness to accept and learn from appropriate critique and feedback. I truly appreciate the long form conversation that is happening with both of you because it allows the viewer to view both of you in a deeper and more meaningful light. Humans and Art are complex, and 4-12 minute videos can be helpful, but they miss a lot. Thank you for digging deep, and thank you for valuing educators by explaining how critiques should work from both sides. Cheers on a job well done!
This is so great. I really appreciate you putting yourself up to something like this. You are obviously a very good photographer but it is always eye-opening to see the viewpoint from someone who makes their living from doing it every single day. There is just a greater attention to the smallest details. They’ve stepped up from is it technically proficient and a good capture to what’s the last 5% - 10% that they can squeeze out of the image.
There wasn’t a single bad shot in your portfolio but he let you know where you can be better which is the most valuable kind of critique.
This is my second favorite video of yours right behind the Mike Kelley critique.
Of all genres, pro sports is something I’d never attempt. You did a lot better than me out there JP! I love hearing from experts who love what they do and love to talk about it.
It’s interesting how baseball photography is so much more than just a nicely framed shot. Like, who the player is matters. I don’t care for baseball, so I wouldn’t know that the player in the first photo you showed is known for a big personality, so that’s something you’d want to try and capture.
Similarly, I do equestrian photography (my wife rides). If you don’t know the sport, you won’t know that riders prefer the horse’s legs to be in a certain position, or for the rider to be in a certain position in their seat during the stride. So many nuances to each sport/subject.
Great video!
Jeremy Parr I m just photography this as taught me a lot. Some photographers will say you take the photo before it disappear or weight for the right moment to come this video has been very helpful thank you for showing this. yours truly Jeremy
I truly enjoyed this, Jared. Huge respect for being critiqued by a legend and showing humility & the desire to learn. I love your schtick but this is the content I’m here for. #igotthisfar
This is great stuff, I think every photographer wants to improve and this is what it takes in my opinion. Getting information from someone who has been doing it for years is priceless. Thanks for this Fro!
I like the different perspective.
While all of fro’s photos are technically gorgeous in an objective photo eye, but through the eye of an actual baseball photographer, it’s a whole different ball game.
I like how even a really good picture can be shit under the right circumstances and viewpoints.
In this medium, context matters, like when fro said he had artistic photography teachers that did not have an eye for photojournalistic photography. They’re very different mediums.
You are brave. I never saw youtuber's photos being critiqued. Awesome. This video proves one more time that a great photo has nothing to do with our camera gears. With today's technology, everyone can easily take a sharp, clean and noise free photos. But not everyone can take a great photo.
Thanks so much for posting this full length, Brad is a legend in sports photography and he really passed on great info about what makes a sports photo valuable and well executed. Getting critiqued by him isn't the same as others...looking forward to the Wrigley discussion.
This is so good. These guys are goldmine of info and genuinely passionate about what they shoot. Knowing how to photograph is 5% knowing your topic is the key. He is intimate with every detail of his subject matter so he anticipates every big photo. Love it.
Excellent critique. As a concert photographer, I love the parallels of the little things to look for and anticipate on on to create a great photo.
Jared, I chuckled when you were explaining the reasons for including certain pictures and he cut you off with, no one cares.
I spent a long portion of my career as a news photographer for various publications and when I was about 22 or 23 in the early 1980s I landed my first interview with a photo editor. He was professional, decently pleasant, but as he silently flipped through my work at a too-rapid (for me) pace, I started talking about this angle and that angle and why I took a particular picture. He put my portfolio down, looked at me for a verrrry long two seconds, said "Shhh! Your pictures should be doing the talking." I felt humiliated. I did not land the job, but I learned a lot.
Great video. It's so interesting and valuable to hear the wisdom of a guy who's been doing this for 30+ years. I've been trying to get down in the front row around first and third base with my 100-400 at local minor league parks to try to dip my toe in shooting baseball games. It's been a lot of fun and learning a lot each time out.
While not my area of interest, I really enjoyed "seeing" how pros in other fields of photography operate and what they look for. Very interesting! I'd love to see a critique from Hardcastle, Heaton or one of those guys on any landscape work you might have!
love to see what editors are looking for in sport photos. Jared clearly goes for the cool fun shot like in concerts, what they want is perfect action and plays to show what happens and it's the intensity more than the special cool pics
I see what you saw in the B. Harper shot, 14:19+. Cropped in with the ball, bat and head it is a phenomenal capture. The intensity of his focus on the ball and the calmness in his expression and the contrast between the two is off the scales.
Love this! I have a good friend that is a sports photographer.. he gets flown everywhere.. I shoot families a pet's when we hang out we shoot Wildlife and never talk shop.. this gives me insight to what his world is like and it is not as I thought it would be. He like you creates incredible images, but I never considered how much the re-sale value dictated the composition of his photos.. Thank you Jared
What a brilliant idea learned so effing much. Thanks for putting yourself out there, Jared!
Fantastic, can see this guy who has been there from the beginning of camera and seen the change over the years. Stories and experience is 2nd to none.
I couldn’t imagine the waiting game to see if the film/memory cards arrived in one piece off the plane lol
Awesome share! It is very eye opening to hear both your comments on why the photo was shot the way it was and his comments on why it worked or not as a story-telling photo. You are a gifted photographer and I can tell from the videos I have watched that your first love is photojournalism. Each of your photos conveyed the story as you wanted to tell it. Yes, many of them in this video would not work as a baseball photo but that was not what you were going for.
Don't change your style because of this. Take the nuggets and improve where you feel you need to and keep shooting Fro-style.
BTW, my new R6 with the 24-105 f4.0 arrived today! I cannot wait for the battery to be charged and I can start taking photos with it. I bought it based on your reviews. I almost bought an RP and am so glad I didn't. (-:
This was the closest I've ever been to the mind of a sports photographer. I don't usually watch hour + RUclips videos but I enjoyed almost every minute of this conversation. It helps that I love baseball but there are take a ways here that apply to all sports. Keep up the great work Jared and keep shooting America's pastime. Can't wait to see more pics.
This is one of your best videos! I love the raw honesty on both your parts. So much info for us to learn from you both! I took away a ton just listening. Love it!!!!!
Made me think how I select keepers from sports and how many I might choose because they are technically good.. rather than what the photo is showing.. loved the section about the missed strike.. I bet I have plenty of those.
Very very wonderful video! More of these please - great also on how open the both of you are, Brad with being authentic and real and you, Jared, being open and eager to evolve! LOVE IT!
One of your best videos ever. Love seeing Jared’s humility!
Hello guys -- I allways really enjoy the type of content where there´s two people interacting, chatting, sharing thoughts etc. Even though I´m from Germany and can´t really contribute much to the topic of baseball, the things you discuss are universal for photography. I actually miss this kind of format and I wish you could find some time to produce more like it. A couple of years ago you had this thing going with a colleage or pal of yours, both of you sitting around a round table in a studio room and discussing photography. It was cancelled for some reason -- but I do believe it wouldn´t be only me who´d be thrilled to be able to have something similar to watch on your channel in the future. Until then, heads up and keep on shooting (photos). Heiko
This is a great video from both of you, please do more of these!!! AWESOME
Hey Jared.. great video..!! Aside from the technical critique of your images in the "tweener" moments you mention, the absolute gems from this conversation with Brad that every noob rookie tog should take away are the "know the what why where and for whom you are shooting" points he made plus knowing the business from the publishers' side.. something that is harder now than ever especially from the freelancers perspective who might not have the inside track on a brief/storyline to shoot for at any particular game or event and whose photos end up being a bit generic because of that.. the main key takeaway though (in my humble opinion) to shooting this kind of sport, and which can only be acquired with time and the requisite passion for the game, is to KNOW the sport and the players. Hope you do make the Chicago crit with Brad..! all the best to you.. g #igotthisfar
Informative for you, this is friggin Informative for everyone no matter what sport. Loved it and can't wait for part 2!
I would love to see Tony Northrup and The Angry Photographer portfolios destroyed by real pros too...
From what I understood, his advice was more towards you need to learn the game and the players to get the great shots. Knowing how a player stands when he could potentially make a great play or hit a home run. Or knowing when a player is going to steal a base or make a great catch. Those photos that catch that one of a kind action is what gives the photo the feels. For example, the photo you caught of Shwarber watching his ball leave the stadium, his bat in his hand still, that is the photo that gives you the feels. Those are the great photos. That is what I understood from what he was saying.
#igotthisfar I thoroughly enjoyed Brad's perspective on the purpose of the shot, what story it told, or who would buy it. It was a great reminder that many of the shots Jared shared wouldn't make an SI print, but they served the purpose of showing what a lens can capture. I liked the reminder that a photo isn't inherently 'good' or 'bad' but that the purpose or story it conveys is what brings it value
I totally understand Brad’s point of view when it comes to shooting baseball. It seems to be a whole different ball game (no pun intended) than it is shooting other events. However, I really do enjoy Jared’s style. The photojournalistic nature grabs my attention more and tells a great story of what it’s like to be at one of those games.
Wow, This is one of the best youtube video you have posted. Earlier I love to see the portrait challenges with David Hobby and others. I miss those type of stuff now. (Around 2005 to 2010 may be)
Of course he does , you asked him to . Also he called you a rookie , meaning he wants you to learn these players ways . Honestly did you expect to gain 20 years of experience in a specific sport in just a few sessions ? nope you didn't . I take away from this video that he respects your "track record" , he's a good man
Taking photos to please others is a losing battle. I can't imagine trying to deal with clients trying to please them for money to make a living. I'm not interested in pleasing anyone but myself as far as photography goes.
That's a good point!
While I can understand your viewpoint. I have to disagree. I love improving, and receiving and integrating critiques can develop your technical proficiency and artistic eye. There’s always room for a difference in taste. But if you can take pride in the journey instead of the destination I think it is ultimately more rewarding.
Different strokes for for different folks. Just because you can't imagine shooting for clients to make a living, doesn't mean that thousands of other photographers, including myself, feel the same way. It's definitely not a losing battle
@@chamberhartphotography I only speak for myself and was stating my opinion for my photography only, to me the latter was implied.
I was doing that, and I almost quit this job...
This video was AWESOME. I would love to see a series like this. Any professional rock and roll photographers you know?!?!?
I’m not a big baseball fan but, #igothisfar and really appreciate this video. I like how you and Brad came to an agreement about more artistic and photojournalistic shooting. I’d love to see the second video as well, no matter the length.
I love these type of videos. I really enjoy seeing how you shoot and hearing your thought process behind how you shoot. It helps me get better too.
No one likes criticism! You did a great Job in this video. I've been a pro photographer for 37 years, and I know first hand how hard this would be to make.
so great. some of these things are so obvious when told but so eye (mind)-opening . love this kind of videos !!!
Great critique. Looking forward to part two.
The point he made about the picture of the guy missing his shot, with the ball on top of the bat, sort of got to me. He says no one would use this, other than to demo a camera. I spend so much on camera gear, and my girlfriend, using 10 year old gear, still takes better images then me. The emotion you convey and capture in the image is so much more important than the technical aspects of photography. You're telling the story, illustrating it. Good to get a reminder of that now and then. My A1 getting the 20-30 FPS is awesome, but it doesn't matter if I shoot the wrong moments.
#igotthisfar
This is why I subscribe to your channel. We shoot different gear. Our professional focus is different. But you are superb in presenting a photography program. Some got it, some don’t. You got it.
it`s true. It's a very long video but it doesnt have waste of time. All the time you are learning, from the basis of the game to the very core of what magazines /especially those sports magazines/ are waiting in a photograph. Thanks for share your knowledge Brad.
#Igotthisfar Man I could watch this guy all day, his experience and energy is just wonderful.
I don't even have a camera and I was binging videos going all technical about the cameras and their capabilities. Not saying anything wrong with that, but this one reminded me that gear is what you shoot it with, not what you shoot. "You are the art director". Also I never thought about it from an assignment PoV and the thought process that goes behind clicking GREAT photos, and not just "I was there and I got this". Loved this video, very informational!
This was an excellent video - dragged at times of course, but that's the nature of uncut dialogue. So many great "never thought about that" moments for both shooting and how the business works behind the scenese. Look forward to the Wrigley vid!
So many people saying Jared was making excuses. In order to have a productive dialogue you need to discuss the thought process behind each shot, what you were trying to achieve, what you liked about each photo in order to choose it, etc. If he just listened and said nothing what would be the benefit?
Excellent session with Brad. Some great insight coming from the man. I've weathered critiques too and there is something great about your editor, and mentor dishing it out without ego. Just telling it like it is and then expecting the photog to get back out there and produce. I give it to ya Fro, You didn't shoot this as an assignment so it's almost crazy to open yourself up like this. I think it would be AWESOME to have one of your friends give you an assignment and then get a critique. Boom! Thanks for a great episode!
Loved this. It is hard to hear sometimes when you pick your A1 photos and someone finds something wrong with it. Just have to remember to apply those thoughts to your next shoot. Thanks for this video Jared!
Shoulda picked the Z9 photos instead 😁
@@ncmetalfan5267 A1 as in “very good” the phrase 😂 not the camera lolol
@@Rcmathis 😂😂 just a little ribbing
Thanks for doing this it was very informative. You were right the info between shots is priceless.
I'm so glad I pay for RUclips and don't have commercials.
I notice that the bokeh of SOME of the newer lenses look more digitized than my F mount glass. (Look at the crowd in the stands) I was gonna sell it off and now I'm keeping it.
Great Video. I don't like baseball, (more of a football guy) but this is intriguing. Good Job Fro. 👍🏾
I had the same thought. Weird looking grainy bokeh. Not smooth at all
This was FANTASTIC! Really enjoyed the critique and Fro setting up the shots with the backstory etc.
This is so good this is what really motivates me calling Allen’s and jump back into talking pictures just think if you have a disaster fire flood what do you save the photos you’re family your history your story thank you I enjoy your videos
This is a must watch video. One of your best. Learned a lot, I will watch it again to make notes
I appreciate You for making this Awesome video to help us All Learn to be a better Videographer/Photographer. I understand your reason for the Great photos you took. I will be grateful for the 2nd edition in this series. Thanks and keep helping us all.
Always great to watch your videos, I try to gather as much information as possible to become a better photographer. I would like to see you shoot a professional motocross race. There is one coming up at Unadilla MX. Berlin NY. I always like to see a real professional at work. Keep up the great work.
What's really interesting about this is it shows how an experienced photographer who obviously is very successful in his field has so little care about gear. Jared mentioning using X camera or lens on shots and he couldn't look any less interested. It's the photo that matters to him and it should. Obviously Jared has a long long way to go to be an accomplished baseball photographer and having the top gear and being able to shoot X amount of shots a second or nail tack sharp images means nothing if the images aren't anything that's been seen a million times before. Put the gear Jared uses in most photographers hands and they will get alot of these photographs. You need that next level and part of that is forgetting the gear and focusing on the image. This is a message I have been trying to push with a lot of friends recently after selling all my modern gear, buying older cheaper stuff and pocketing the profit and finding my photography now is still way better. Experience and skill to see an image will always trump gear. Good to put yourself out there though it isn't easy and from the many 'faults' it has given you some valuable insights to improve. However the one message that should be heard by all who watch this is gear does not matter if you don't capture anything captivating with it.
@@antoniog8276 yes he suggests that as a project (which would actually be quite cool to see) however I still stand by he couldnt care less about the gear. It's interesting how Jared constantly goes to 'well I was testing the xxx' or 'here I was using the canon xxx' and again you can see the guy doesn't care which is how it should be. Jared is a gear head, nothing wrong with that as it's obviously a part of his love for photography and it is what has given him a platform to share his work and get bookings etc. however it doesnt detract from some of these photos being weak in the eyes of someone with experience. Yes he comments on how technically they are perfect (although again shooting with what Jared does it's not too difficult to nail focus etc) but it's that next level he is missing. I was once part of a photography club and it's a trend that older, more experienced photographers really don't care what shoots an image they just want to see nice photographs whereas more up and coming photographers are all about the gear in their hand. My own message to people isn't about practice as obviously the more you do something the better you get it's about even if you have a 10-15 year old camera you can get fantastic results (although obviously older gear does have some limitations and you will struggle in certain scenarios) and you don't need a Nikon Z9 for example if you do street photography.
That's pretty cool for him to do this. Great stories and point of view from an old school guy. He was fair and you took it well. Can't wait for Part II #Igotthisfar
This was fantastic! I shoot with the Worcester Red Sox. SO many great takeaways. Like a free workshop! Looking forward to part 2
what i'm getting from jared's photos is that he shoots more cinematically. i can see why old-school photogs might be rough with him because he thinks about foreground and lighting differently than the classic 80's film shooter. digital lets you play with your angles more.
please describe cinematic in a photo?
I watched it ALL! Even though the talk sometimes drives me NUTS! Good stuff. Sport photograper me? Probly not. But I can sure hear what I need to about the preparedness and awareness that make good photo or video story happen! Thanks. Can't wait to watch part 2.
That was great to watch! Especially being a California guy. Thanks for sharing Jared and Brad!!
"I am not a big gear guy, I am all about the pictures." that's how it should be!
Man I'm enjoying this: a specialist pro completely in his comfort zone, Jared you must have learned so much.
The Yellich shot is awesome, especially with the broken bat
I thought I was going to watch in two parts but I couldn’t stop, great video with great information
Before I fell in love with Technology ( I am a retired IT guy) I was a stringer for the AP. I beat the crap out of My F-1, and made bank. The iPhone made me lazy, so I decided to look into today's digital gear. Your videos have brought me up to date, and I have the old desire back. My son was looking at my old kodachromes " Dad How did you take such great pictures?" I took him to the basement, opened the closet there is a huge box filled with my slides... I said " Those are the bad ones"
What a blast to watch, old vet's advice sooo damn useful. Jared getting a lucky one on one today, what a privilege. Nice!
Have been wanting to get good photo tips for sports, because I am wanting to get into the sports photography world. This was a goldmine!! I learned so much and can’t wait to get some good glass and start shooting. (I just sold basically all of my stuff and now only have a rf 35mm with the R6) I might have to rent some gear to get started.
I'm not at all interested in shooting sports, but MAN! this was fascinating and mega informative. Thank you, Jared and Brad!
Hard to put yourself out there like that. A lot of photographers have a lot to say about "reviewers" but are not posting critiques like this. Much appreciated and everyone who watched is better for it.
Don’t think I have ever watched a RUclips video that is this long, but this was fantastic! As soon as I saw it was Phillies photos I knew I was in for the long haul.
Jared with a great question on the Bryce Harper bunt, “What are you looking for?” Brad,” unless the story is Bryce Harper is a horseshit bunter, this picture means nothing.” Awesome question, and awesome answer.
I don't even like baseball but wow I might like it now. This dude is electric and passionate. I loved his energy and insight.
I would love to grab a beer with this guy and talk about photography! What a cool and wise dude.
Hey Jared, Jose from Puerto Rico. Some nuggets I saw were fascinating. What I picked up is when he told you to get low to the ground and get dirty. Make Bryce Harper look majestic as he's walking by; make him larger than life. He referred to Aaron Judge and how he'd get low to make him look like Paul Bunyan or something heroic, especially with the season he's having. The guy definitely shoots like he talks: He's a storyteller, and his photos tell a story.
Jared, I really enjoyed Brad’s explanation of old school methods and editing. He never mentioned what type of equipment he used and how long he used it. Don’t beat your self up about his comments, you are always demoing new equipment for our benefit and that means you might miss some shots due to being unfamiliar with the new features of the equipment. Do you ever take photos of grounds keepers doing their job and give it to them? Thank you for putting yourself under the microscope!
Loved the video. Love the long format and can't wait till part two! Thanks for the great content!
Also, I am a Nikon shooter and always appreciate your honest reviews!
#igotthisfar the biggest takeaways for me were that context is of great significance, and it's very important to make sure the subject of the photo is as distinct as possible from the background. Great video gents!
Great video. Critiques are so important. Learn so much even if you don’t agree with the critique.
I know that most people don't like having their photos critiqued and I think to an extent, that's normal and a typical reaction. We only want to hear the good stuff, not the bad. But a photographer who really wants to grow as a photographer will listen to both and work on the "bad" and that's what really signifies someone that is growing or has grown as a photographer. The "bad" photographer will continue to blame, or make excuses, whereas the good photographer will take the potentially negative feedback and use it to improve their work. It's hard, and sometimes the critiques can be brutal, but if you find a good person who really knows what they're talking about and can give a good unbiased critique (tell you what you need to hear -- both good and bad -- and not what you want to hear) that's key.
This is awesome, thanks for sharing Jared👍
I am not involved in shooting sports, but I really enjoyed watching this video.
Good Job -- lifting the curtain is very interesting, which is why I enjoy the Behind the Shot vids Steve Brazill issues on RUclips.
What most do not understand is what it takes to have a Photo Editor to pick your shot - any shot out of the masses they receive.
It is so far beyond just getting accredited access and taking shots. AND as your guest said - unless you are just building a stock of shots - there is no point shooting someone "no one knows" - no faster way to get an image spiked and your parentage questioned.
How pros have to tag, label and annotate every shot they submit often in real time via WIFI/FTP to their desk and then on to the outlets or agencies they are shooting for.
If one shoots at a major event (like The Open) or even just a regular association football match accredited shooters have access to WIFI and dedicated Ethernet everywhere. As a result they will have encoded both team sheets and all key officials and expected celebs, "key action events" etc all in Photo Mechanic 6 - set up their shortcuts for fast tagging, together with all the information they "have to include" on every shot.
Before they "post" a shot - they "have to add a voice memo" with each shot so their desk can turn this into copy.
All within a few seconds of the action occurring.
Look at just how fast images from the Crash at the start of The British Grand Prix were on line - these were great shots and only got better as the photographer and their team worked on them and the facts became clearer.
No such thing as a bad photo. If one person likes a photo, its a good photo.
Or it’s a photo only you like but everyone else hates and you refuse to acknowledge why it’s bad. There are plenty of photographers out there like like that. It’s nonsense to believe you only need to like a photograph yourself to make it good. I’ve seen some photos the photographer is pleased with and I’m crying out to say why it’s bad, or at the very least could be better. I hate it when you see a rubbish picture and hear someone else walk up and say ‘hey, that’s nice’. It makes me cringe. There are plenty of photographs out there that could be thought of as great that someone else disagrees with, but it’s not difficult to spot rubbish.
@@philfyphil a photographer should never judge his own photos. He may hate one and delete it losing possible sales. One should show photos to others to get a different thought.