I don't subscribe to many channels but this was just so informative and answered all my questions. I'm a new hiker entering into a nomadic lifestyle. I'm keen to learn but I also end up with buying mistakes! Thank you for sharing your experience!
friendly reminder for everyone, if you have a sawyer and its been sitting in the cupboard dried out since your last trip, soak it overnight before you head out bush otherwise i might be hard push the water through. great vid kate! love the coupling.
I do similar for biking..but with a tube on the bottom to another bag on bike . One thing...if you have no air in the lower bag ...no need to leave a gap for air to escape ie rolled up. Nice system! Great vid.
This is super helpful, I’ve struggled to find a reliable system. I started with a UV water purifier - wouldn’t work reliably with my rechargeable batteries, and I don’t want to use disposables. So I moved to a hand-pumped filtration system. Part of the plastic pumping mechanism broke while out camping, cutting my trip short. Super irritating. Thanks to your explanation I’ve just ordered the filter and water bags you’ve recommended. Really appreciate you sharing.
So glad it helped. Yeah I stuffed around for ages too with different techniques. Best of luck with it. One thing I’ve heard from the community here are not to let the filter freeze (maybe snuggle up to it on super cold nights).
Amazing, this is pretty much the same system I use. Lightweight and simple, though I tend to use the narrow 1l plastic bottles. Good to show folk how to stay safe - perhaps a vid with navigational safety tips?
Thanks Kate. As someone new to water filters, I found this really useful. I've mostly winged it drinking untreated water from favourable sources, with chlorine tabs as back up if things look dodgy (as if you can tell for sure). I added a Squeeze to my kit recently. The supplied bits and bobs allow for a few configurations but all seem a bit clunky. That coupling nut is - literally - the missing link. Cheers!
So good to hear Tom, it absolutely is hey. Wish i had found it years ago. Yes I tend to treat everything as I just cant imagine an upset tummy while out hiking. Thanks for your support. CHeers
Hey Kate. I got out overnight in Namadgi this week. Nothing speccy but good for body and soul and first chance to try this water treatment method in the wild. Really good! I got much better flow into a bladder than a bottle so I just did that and decanted into bottles. (Maybe I didn't get the loosening of the nut right.) I like that the dirty water cnoc also serves as extra carrying capacity for dry camps, etc - fill all your bottles with treated water then fill the cnoc again to treat later. Thanks again for the advice.
Hi Kate, love the video (as always). I've been rocking a very similar set up for my filtration for the last couple of years. Except I've added 1m of Racespec type cord (from Tiergear), a dutch hook and a nama claw to hang the setup easily from any tree and get it adjusted to a good height. I use the same 2l cnoc bag, with sawyer inline adapter, 10 cm of tube, a HydroBlu Versa Flow filter and 2 * 1.5l Evernew water carries. Gives me 5l of capacity, all which gets stored in one of Ultralight Hiker's small dyneema stuff sacks. Doing the filter back flush exactly the same as you shows. Also I have found if the filter is slow to start filtering (been happening for last six month or so for me), doing a back flush with the bottle your filling, leaving the bottle and filter connected and then reattaching to the cnoc bag, works brilliantly to get the setup flowing at max. again.😀
Nifty set up there Kate. I'm loving the Platypus Gravity Works 4L system for most of my trips, it weighs a bit more, but is so easy to use and does a big batch in one hit. When I go lighterweight, I use the Platypus Quickdraw and extra Evernew or Platypus ultralight bladder.
Kate, thanks for the tip on cranking back the coupler to let the air escape from tge bottle bring filled. I'm glad you shiwed the Sawyer Sqeeze being used as a gravity filter, yep totally agree, save your energy and enjoy the nature all around.
thank you!! came here after watching you on alone: australia. I'm just getting back into tramping after a 10 year+ hiatus and it's amazing how much technology has improved. this video is super helpful and while I can't rush to buy everything, it's good to have the knowledge for the future.
So great to hear. Welcome to the community. Thanks for joining. Best of luck in your tramping pursuits. Hopefully some upcoming vids will help too. Cheers
Great setup. I love the Cnoc and have the sawyer. But I find the bfree is so much faster and versatile for me. with my sawyer as a backup. Either way are great systems. Good advice. Also having a small light plastic cup for using to scoop from smaller water sources is handy.
Hey Kate Just when you take water from a stream, point the container downstream not upstream when filling it, that way you won't get as much sediment etc when you go to filter the water. Good idea to show others what to do. Look forward to the others. See you out there!
thanks kate, i'm using a grayl bottle at the moment but it's definitely not ultralight! maybe one day when I'm more of a dedicated hiker i'll look into getting some lighter things.
I use a cnoc bag but with a beFree filter; it’s slow! After watching this, I might need to get onto the sawyer squeeze! Thanks for sharing. Great video as usual :)
Great advice in this one! I used to use a Steripen but that died and I recently switched to Lifestraw bottles for the South Coast Track. I'm looking for something lighter long term so this gives me a few ideas, particularly when hiking with the family
Thanks mate. Yes its a great set up when treating for larger groups. I just treat into a 3l CNOC so you dont have to change it so often. Happy hiking to you. I'm excited to see what you get up to next. I have been checking out your website dreaming of my next adventure.
@@KateGrarock I'm filming the Cape to Cape Track next week, was gonna be a father-son hike with my Dad but he and I both had COVID and he's too sick to do all of it after a rebound case, so may be a solo outing in the end. Also hopefully Kiandra to Kosciuszko at the end of the year but I'm having some trouble organising transport that doesn't cost $1000!
@@thelongwaysbetter oh so cool re cape to Cape love that trail. Sorry to hear about the Covid. So good to hear you are coming over this way. Sing out if you are in Canberra would love a beer
One of the things that scare me about multi days and stopping me from going more than 1 night - water!! (And being alone at night lol). I will definitely need to look into this and trial at home a few times before taking the next step! Thanks Kate, your videos are always so helpful and reassuring for a noob like me! X
Thanks anne. Yeah being alone takes a bit of getting used to and isn’t for everyone. When starting out it’s often nice to do hikes where there is tank water so at least it’s reliable and easily treated. Best of luck with your hiking. There is nothing wrong with an overnight hike. I think they are some of my favourites.
Thank you for another video and thank you for the $2.88 saving on the Sawyer coupling i didn't know about but is now on the way along with a couple of banana breakfasts that sound way too good and probably won't even make the trail. I like Ultralight Hiker. Thanks again, Ray.
Thanks Kate. Enjoy watching your videos. Really answers some of those niggly questions you have when trek planning. Love the multi use of the cleaning coupling. Watch all your videos.
Yes, I'm a Katadyn BeFree user. But the CNOC Sawyer Squeeze set-up looks pretty good. It will be hard to choose when I need to replace/upgrade... lol. Looking forward to your new venture, and hoping that I can connect with you on the hike service. That'd be cool!
For me it's a sawyer squeeze and a couple of pump water bottles from the shops. 2 clean one dirty. Just works in my side pouches and really dislike the idea of bladders in my pack or in my mesh front pocket where I keep my wet weather gear.
don't have major problems filtering and making safe, it's just finding the stuff in Oz. So much YT is in th USA with snow run off from coast to coast and 95% of stuff is dealing with cold or snow, well stuff that, but at least they have water and it's real heavy to hike in/with.
Was recommended to your channel by Geotericks outdoor australia , who comes on my livestreams on friday nights here in the uk , great channel , will work my way through your content 👍🏻🏕
*_Hello Kate... when doing activities in the wild, it is very important that we bring a water filter, especially during the dry season, so that the water we consume remains safe when adventuring in the wild..., greetings from Indonesia_* 👌👍
Blowing the water out might be ok after backwashing but I'd assume your hands would have dirty water on them as would the sawyer. Contamination is a thing. I use the same system.
Hi! Great vid! Do you find that your Sawyer blocks up a lot? I just froze two on a very chilly Namadgi hike a couple of weeks ago 🙄 and was looking at a bfree because these have slowed down a fair bit and I need to backwash every use… do you have a suggestion for storage? Thanks!
Wowzers that’s no good. Na I very rarely have to backwash. If they freeze with water in them they get damaged I think they are no longer any good. I’ve read it’s best to keep them in a ziplock bag and maybe put near your body at night in freezing conditions. I think the befree has the same problem. Is the water you are treating really dirty? If so I like to use a bandanna to stop the chunks getting in the cnoc bag. But yes sounds like you have a filter problem if you need to backwash. I only do it maybe once every 20-50L
@@KateGrarock definitely should have slept with them, rookie error - but deffo didn’t expect it to be -10! The blocks have been happening to both, used in different hikes, different people, different water. But, I wonder if it’s because I’m (we?) are not blowing it out after use and the H2O leftover blocks it up a bit? I’ll give it another crack - I loved mine!
@@rachaelq9542 yeah so weird it has happened to 2 filters. thats getting expensive. i only blow the water out to save weight haha they would dry naturally if you air them out. but i guess the blow out method may help with freezing too. best of luck
Totally agree! Tablets are the ultimate ultralight though. But yes have avoided for many years now. But good point re backup. I might throw a couple of tablets in just in case
No. I never got that kind of flow. It ran fast initially but after two or three uses the flow rate was seriously slowed. Yes I back flushed multiple times. People often don't discuss how the water practically needs to be pristine already in order to filter. I spent 20 to 30 minutes to filter 3 liters of water until finally I said screw this, yeah weight is a precious commodity but so is time out there on the trails. I broke down and bought the MSR Guardian, toss a tube over the bank never having to get wet and super charge that same 3 liters in 3 minutes flat and the water is completely excised of viruses which the Sawyer does not do. Its friggin junk and inexplicably everyone puffs it up. It's a $40 filter and it functions like a $40 filter. Garbage
Oh yeah I so want to do one. Had a heap of gear changes. Would love to do a gram counting big one. Have my eye on a few trail but yeah gotta find time.
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Just brilliant upload, the attention you pay to each video is fantastic and you explain everything so beautifully in the smallest details. 👏
Thank you very much! Love this.
I don't subscribe to many channels but this was just so informative and answered all my questions. I'm a new hiker entering into a nomadic lifestyle. I'm keen to learn but I also end up with buying mistakes! Thank you for sharing your experience!
That’s so wonderful to hear. I hope to put out a heap more content on hiking gear and skills next year. All the best and happy hiking
Thanks Kate. I use the BeFree gravity filter. Totally agree that the ‘set and leave it to do it’s thing’ is the way to go. Saves so much time!
Absolutely!! Thanks for watching. Happy hiking
friendly reminder for everyone, if you have a sawyer and its been sitting in the cupboard dried out since your last trip, soak it overnight before you head out bush otherwise i might be hard push the water through. great vid kate! love the coupling.
Wow cool thanks Dave. I wasn’t aware of this issue but so good to know. Cheers.
@@KateGrarock Maybe I'm storing mine badly! Do you do much to clean yours after coming home and store it?
@@davef5916I normally just dry it on the windowsill for a couple of days. So is yours really slow to work if it’s totally dry.
@@KateGrarock yeah me too! Yeah if the filter has dried out completely I struggle to even get a few drops through, totally fixed after a soak though.
@@davef5916 so interesting. Thanks heaps love always learning. Appreciate the banter. Happy hiking to you mate.
I do similar for biking..but with a tube on the bottom to another bag on bike .
One thing...if you have no air in the lower bag ...no need to leave a gap for air to escape ie rolled up.
Nice system! Great vid.
So good. Thanks mate. Yes I did wonder if that would work ok. Great to hear. Cheers
This is super helpful, I’ve struggled to find a reliable system.
I started with a UV water purifier - wouldn’t work reliably with my rechargeable batteries, and I don’t want to use disposables.
So I moved to a hand-pumped filtration system. Part of the plastic pumping mechanism broke while out camping, cutting my trip short. Super irritating.
Thanks to your explanation I’ve just ordered the filter and water bags you’ve recommended. Really appreciate you sharing.
So glad it helped. Yeah I stuffed around for ages too with different techniques. Best of luck with it. One thing I’ve heard from the community here are not to let the filter freeze (maybe snuggle up to it on super cold nights).
Amazing, this is pretty much the same system I use. Lightweight and simple, though I tend to use the narrow 1l plastic bottles. Good to show folk how to stay safe - perhaps a vid with navigational safety tips?
Thanks mate. Yes yes I have to make one of those. Thanks a lot. I was thinking 2 parts compass nav and phone nav
Thanks Kate. As someone new to water filters, I found this really useful. I've mostly winged it drinking untreated water from favourable sources, with chlorine tabs as back up if things look dodgy (as if you can tell for sure). I added a Squeeze to my kit recently. The supplied bits and bobs allow for a few configurations but all seem a bit clunky. That coupling nut is - literally - the missing link. Cheers!
So good to hear Tom, it absolutely is hey. Wish i had found it years ago. Yes I tend to treat everything as I just cant imagine an upset tummy while out hiking. Thanks for your support. CHeers
Hey Kate. I got out overnight in Namadgi this week. Nothing speccy but good for body and soul and first chance to try this water treatment method in the wild. Really good! I got much better flow into a bladder than a bottle so I just did that and decanted into bottles. (Maybe I didn't get the loosening of the nut right.) I like that the dirty water cnoc also serves as extra carrying capacity for dry camps, etc - fill all your bottles with treated water then fill the cnoc again to treat later.
Thanks again for the advice.
Hi Kate, love the video (as always). I've been rocking a very similar set up for my filtration for the last couple of years. Except I've added 1m of Racespec type cord (from Tiergear), a dutch hook and a nama claw to hang the setup easily from any tree and get it adjusted to a good height. I use the same 2l cnoc bag, with sawyer inline adapter, 10 cm of tube, a HydroBlu Versa Flow filter and 2 * 1.5l Evernew water carries. Gives me 5l of capacity, all which gets stored in one of Ultralight Hiker's small dyneema stuff sacks. Doing the filter back flush exactly the same as you shows. Also I have found if the filter is slow to start filtering (been happening for last six month or so for me), doing a back flush with the bottle your filling, leaving the bottle and filter connected and then reattaching to the cnoc bag, works brilliantly to get the setup flowing at max. again.😀
So cool. I’m literally googling a few of those things. Love the hang idea. Sometimes hard to find just the right tree. Thanks a lot.
Nifty set up there Kate. I'm loving the Platypus Gravity Works 4L system for most of my trips, it weighs a bit more, but is so easy to use and does a big batch in one hit. When I go lighterweight, I use the Platypus Quickdraw and extra Evernew or Platypus ultralight bladder.
so cool Eric the platypus gravity works is what got me addicted to gravity treatment. love the look of the evernew. cheers mate hope you are well.
Kate, thanks for the tip on cranking back the coupler to let the air escape from tge bottle bring filled. I'm glad you shiwed the Sawyer Sqeeze being used as a gravity filter, yep totally agree, save your energy and enjoy the nature all around.
Thanks Rosemary. A lot of trial and error to get to this point. Love love love gravity filters. Thanks for watching and the lovely comment
thank you!! came here after watching you on alone: australia. I'm just getting back into tramping after a 10 year+ hiatus and it's amazing how much technology has improved. this video is super helpful and while I can't rush to buy everything, it's good to have the knowledge for the future.
So great to hear. Welcome to the community. Thanks for joining. Best of luck in your tramping pursuits. Hopefully some upcoming vids will help too. Cheers
Great setup. I love the Cnoc and have the sawyer. But I find the bfree is so much faster and versatile for me. with my sawyer as a backup.
Either way are great systems. Good advice.
Also having a small light plastic cup for using to scoop from smaller water sources is handy.
So good to hear. Yeah great point re the small cup. Thanks for watching
Hey Kate
Just when you take water from a stream, point the container downstream not upstream when filling it, that way you won't get as much sediment etc when you go to filter the water.
Good idea to show others what to do. Look forward to the others.
See you out there!
Thanks for the tip! Will remember that one. Cheers
thanks kate, i'm using a grayl bottle at the moment but it's definitely not ultralight! maybe one day when I'm more of a dedicated hiker i'll look into getting some lighter things.
Thanks Amanda. Yeah sounds like a plan. No need for all the gear if you don’t need it. Happy hiking
Your channel is exactly what i have been looking for!! Thank you so much for uploading this content! Subscribed!
Awesome, thanks and welcome. Happy hiking
I use a cnoc bag but with a beFree filter; it’s slow! After watching this, I might need to get onto the sawyer squeeze! Thanks for sharing. Great video as usual :)
Glad it was helpful! So interesting to hear. I’ve always wondered about befree. Thanks for watching
Great advice in this one! I used to use a Steripen but that died and I recently switched to Lifestraw bottles for the South Coast Track. I'm looking for something lighter long term so this gives me a few ideas, particularly when hiking with the family
Thanks mate. Yes its a great set up when treating for larger groups. I just treat into a 3l CNOC so you dont have to change it so often. Happy hiking to you. I'm excited to see what you get up to next. I have been checking out your website dreaming of my next adventure.
@@KateGrarock I'm filming the Cape to Cape Track next week, was gonna be a father-son hike with my Dad but he and I both had COVID and he's too sick to do all of it after a rebound case, so may be a solo outing in the end. Also hopefully Kiandra to Kosciuszko at the end of the year but I'm having some trouble organising transport that doesn't cost $1000!
@@thelongwaysbetter oh so cool re cape to Cape love that trail. Sorry to hear about the Covid. So good to hear you are coming over this way. Sing out if you are in Canberra would love a beer
One of the things that scare me about multi days and stopping me from going more than 1 night - water!! (And being alone at night lol). I will definitely need to look into this and trial at home a few times before taking the next step! Thanks Kate, your videos are always so helpful and reassuring for a noob like me! X
Thanks anne. Yeah being alone takes a bit of getting used to and isn’t for everyone. When starting out it’s often nice to do hikes where there is tank water so at least it’s reliable and easily treated. Best of luck with your hiking. There is nothing wrong with an overnight hike. I think they are some of my favourites.
Thank you for another video and thank you for the $2.88 saving on the Sawyer coupling i didn't know about but is now on the way along with a couple of banana breakfasts that sound way too good and probably won't even make the trail. I like Ultralight Hiker. Thanks again, Ray.
Haha thanks mate. Yeah a great little shop of practical lightweight gear. Cheers mate.
Thanks Kate. Enjoy watching your videos. Really answers some of those niggly questions you have when trek planning. Love the multi use of the cleaning coupling. Watch all your videos.
Tim thanks so much for the comment I very much appreciate it. Thanks for watching, im planning a big series this year. Thanks for the support
Yes, I'm a Katadyn BeFree user. But the CNOC Sawyer Squeeze set-up looks pretty good. It will be hard to choose when I need to replace/upgrade... lol. Looking forward to your new venture, and hoping that I can connect with you on the hike service. That'd be cool!
Thanks so much mate. So excited to get out there soon. Some very exciting things in the pipeline. Can’t wait to get them out. Thanks a lot
Just got my Sawyer squeeze, thanks for this great video Kate 🙏😊
So cool. Hope you love it
For me it's a sawyer squeeze and a couple of pump water bottles from the shops. 2 clean one dirty. Just works in my side pouches and really dislike the idea of bladders in my pack or in my mesh front pocket where I keep my wet weather gear.
Sounds like a good setup. Cheers
don't have major problems filtering and making safe, it's just finding the stuff in Oz. So much YT is in th USA with snow run off from coast to coast and 95% of stuff is dealing with cold or snow, well stuff that, but at least they have water and it's real heavy to hike in/with.
yeah nothing worse than running low on the H2O
Was recommended to your channel by Geotericks outdoor australia , who comes on my livestreams on friday nights here in the uk , great channel , will work my way through your content 👍🏻🏕
Awesome thank you! How great is Geotericks. How do you find th elife streams? I've alsways been interestend in doing some.
*_Hello Kate... when doing activities in the wild, it is very important that we bring a water filter, especially during the dry season, so that the water we consume remains safe when adventuring in the wild..., greetings from Indonesia_* 👌👍
Absolutely mate
@@KateGrarock 🤝🙏
@@KateGrarock 👌👍
@@KateGrarock 👌👍
That’s the system I’ve been using for a few years too, so easy
So much easier hey. 😀
Really good video Kate. I like it a lot. Thank you for sharing 😊
Thanks so much! 😊 I appreciate the support
Blowing the water out might be ok after backwashing but I'd assume your hands would have dirty water on them as would the sawyer. Contamination is a thing. I use the same system.
Yeah good point. I’ll keep this in mind and perhaps push a smidge of clean before doing it.
Hi! Great vid! Do you find that your Sawyer blocks up a lot? I just froze two on a very chilly Namadgi hike a couple of weeks ago 🙄 and was looking at a bfree because these have slowed down a fair bit and I need to backwash every use… do you have a suggestion for storage? Thanks!
Wowzers that’s no good. Na I very rarely have to backwash. If they freeze with water in them they get damaged I think they are no longer any good. I’ve read it’s best to keep them in a ziplock bag and maybe put near your body at night in freezing conditions. I think the befree has the same problem. Is the water you are treating really dirty? If so I like to use a bandanna to stop the chunks getting in the cnoc bag. But yes sounds like you have a filter problem if you need to backwash. I only do it maybe once every 20-50L
@@KateGrarock definitely should have slept with them, rookie error - but deffo didn’t expect it to be -10! The blocks have been happening to both, used in different hikes, different people, different water. But, I wonder if it’s because I’m (we?) are not blowing it out after use and the H2O leftover blocks it up a bit? I’ll give it another crack - I loved mine!
@@rachaelq9542 yeah so weird it has happened to 2 filters. thats getting expensive. i only blow the water out to save weight haha they would dry naturally if you air them out. but i guess the blow out method may help with freezing too. best of luck
Awesome. Where did you get the coupler? It's a great idea!
How bloody good is it. Sawyer coupler bit.ly/KATEBACKWASH
Thanks. Ordered. 😁
@@BlackshacksBushcraft so good. Hope you love it
I get caught up in your enthusiasm. You are a great ambassador.
@@cordellkent4790 haha thanks mate
Thanks this is awesome
Cheers. Happy hiking
Tablets are great for back up but the taste is definitely unpleasant. This is a lovely system.
Totally agree! Tablets are the ultimate ultralight though. But yes have avoided for many years now. But good point re backup. I might throw a couple of tablets in just in case
ps I always wonder about CNOC because cnoc is the word for hill in Irish but no one ever pronounces it like that...
@@mammyrambles2197 oh so cool. I wondered too. Maybe it is. Would love to hear it pronounced properly
It's a hard K sound at the start and the n can be pronounced n or r depending on dialect. So cnoc = Knuc or kruk
@@mammyrambles2197 so cool. Thanks
Kate you are calling them woollies bottles . do you just mean any PET bottle we buy soft drinks in like solo coke etc ?
Yep that’s the ones. Pet bottles. Haha
Or you can use a sawyer squeeze.
Absolutely. I just get frustrated with the time it takes. If rather be bird watching
No. I never got that kind of flow. It ran fast initially but after two or three uses the flow rate was seriously slowed. Yes I back flushed multiple times. People often don't discuss how the water practically needs to be pristine already in order to filter. I spent 20 to 30 minutes to filter 3 liters of water until finally I said screw this, yeah weight is a precious commodity but so is time out there on the trails.
I broke down and bought the MSR Guardian, toss a tube over the bank never having to get wet and super charge that same 3 liters in 3 minutes flat and the water is completely excised of viruses which the Sawyer does not do.
Its friggin junk and inexplicably everyone puffs it up. It's a $40 filter and it functions like a $40 filter. Garbage
Interesting are you hiking in Australia? I’ve never had issues with it here.
When are we going to see another epic Thru hike.
Oh yeah I so want to do one. Had a heap of gear changes. Would love to do a gram counting big one. Have my eye on a few trail but yeah gotta find time.