Reacting to IGN's ABSURD Elden Ring PvP Build Guide
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"If dodging isn't your thing", perfect sentence to describe BHS lmao
Yeah lmao, it literally shows how broken this game is. If the core mechanic that made this game so balanced in the first place isn't your thing, just use the broken and stupid exploit instead!
Bloodhound’s step is an evasive move, complaining about it won’t help y’all catch us
@@mioko9796 Yeah and it's completely broken, I have not met a single BHS user that knows how to actually dodge, BHS spammers literally handicap themselves by using this, because instead of actually learning they would rather instantly die once their FP runs out
@@TheHandofDestiny id be real curious to see how good theyd be if bhs got locked to like 5 uses instead of 500
“If you can’t perform the most basic and central mechanic to the game, consider cheating” is what it translates to
IGN and it's consequences have been a disaster for literally every game ever
I think it's more an issue of community's getting bigger and less centralized. Older DS games survived because they had a smaller and very tight-knit community that kept the games alive between steam sales.
ER is a big, popular game, but that means having to deal with an even bigger and more casual crowd than before. There are so many of them, they're drowning out and replacing a lot of the long-time fans, undermining the community from under our feet.
DS3 had this a lot, too. The influx of awful people who chase away all the old fans. ER is just another step of that progression, but now the DS3 fans get to feel what it was like for the rest of us to experience the shitshow that was DS3!
*IGN and it's consequences have been a disaster for mankind
This. Dark souls pvp is one of my favourite enjoyments ever. In elden ring im over in a month where i havn't even enjoyed pvp because of the connection issues and balance problems. Enjoy the poise, dual naginata, bhs, rivers of blood, etc.spams the casual comminity is promoting, the enjoyment if any won't las long and the pvp comminity will be dead soon. Rip fromsoft pvp, waa a fun ride
It's weird but inevitable but I'm 36 and remember the very early days of the ign website. It was a damn small website that I would go to for news about the upcoming N64 launch and Mario 64. It was cool then.
@@monsieurdorgat6864 sometimes a bit of gate keeping is necessary
''How DARE you dodge in a Player vs Player match! That's it, you're getting the glitch.''
He’s hacking! I can’t hit him WTF!
That’s it! I’m going to bring out the exploit because he’s hAcKInG!!! 😡
/sarcasm
Shh, don't tell them about the WASD (or joystick for console players and controller users) hacks
lmao
Finally, a competently made build guide. Now I can punish those maidenless tarnished when they spam dodge and try to escape my powerful roll catch tech! 🔥🔥🔥
🚫; 🔥 + 🩸 = 💀
I pray this is sarcasm
@@Wurthier of course it is
@@Wurthier i hope
@@Wurthier it is.
"Maidenless tarnished who spam their dodges" is Redditorspeak that roughly translates to English as "WAAAH I'M BAD STOP MOVING AND GET HIT BY MY ATTACKS" with an underhanded vitriolic sentiment.
Ash spammers who never learned how to fight figuring out FP isn't infinite...
Most annoying thing about the L2 spam weapons is how annoying they are to fight against in ganks, in duels they are pretty easy to deal with. Though that might just be because the players are terrible in a 1v1. I don't think invasions should be fair on the invader but the fact that almost every invasion is against 3 people with this shit is just boring. You wait for a couple min, hope you don't get a connection error and either win the fight in one second or get put in a Dragon breath Rob blender.
Moonveil mage is really strong in the hands of a good player.
RoB is shit in PVP right now, anyone with functional brain can destroy RoB scum. But something like moonveil or connection sword is unwinnable in ganks
@@108strawberry connection sword hahaha, they should actually state that it scales with ping in the item description.
@@108strawberry Which one is the connection sword?
@@TheMuffunmaan don’t tell them. I don’t even know what the connection sword is but the last thing we need is another glitch lol
Jee's best reactions 🤣 😂 😆
2:39 Don't do this...😰
3:12 Spam Wave of Gold w/ high poise...🙃
7:09 IGN: use attacks that are hard to dodge... Jee: that's true...😏 IGN: RoB... Jee: Nevermind...😒
10:47 Every Souls PvPers' bane of existence...😡
15:54 Fingerprint... 😑
26:58 Radagon's Soreseal viable!? *gasp*😱
45:31 Maidenless Tarnished!? 👀👀
Yeah about the Radagon soreseal, is it worth using? Iam level 85 faith strength (no buff build with malikeith blade)
@@quangdungpham6276 maybe im wrong but I don't think it's worth it except if u need some stats for welding some weapons but as jee said you'll take a LOT more damage so yea (just lvl up)
@@quangdungpham6276 only worth at low levels like maximum 60 and no more
The soreseals are definitely not worth it lategame it's nice to have midgame but after that point just learn to dodge level and make a more well rounded build that is good and suits you. I was using Radagons soreseal at around lvl 150+ when I was fighting Radagon/Elden beast I took it off and I was tanking hits way better (this is obvious). However I didn't expect it to make that much of a difference since I only had 50 vigor, being able to survive hits from late game bosses is worth the damage trade off since you most likely already have a high enough damage output.
@@quangdungpham6276 This is 2 months old but, essentially it’s only good early game. Once you start having the actual stats to wield your weapons you should probably unequip it, the extra damage that you take just starts be detrimental. Sore seal makes you take a percentage damage increase, so the further you get into the game the more and more damage you will already take from the enemies.
TLDR; only use it to wield weapons you normally can’t and especially only do it early game.
Something I feel has been an issue since DS3 is the fact that there is no benefit for wearing light armor sets.
DS1 has quick rolls, and wood grain rolls if you were feeling toxic. DS2 had it so that the distance you rolled AND your stamina recovery both scaled with your carry weight percentage.
In both, it was a legitimate strategy to pump up your carry weight, not to wear beefier armor, but to better benefit from your light armor. You had a real choice: less poise, but better movement and stam, which was great for quick weapons, or more poise and defense, which worked well with bigger, slower weapons.
The loss of both this, and the fact bigger weapons do barely any more damage than small weapons, and do LESS than stanced light weapons, has really gimped build diversity. And I hate it.
BB did the same thing, but infinitely better. It got rid of weight altogether, which also removed dodge distance modification and Regen based on weight percentage. But at the same time, armor was mostly cosmetic, and you wore what you liked, and used any weapon you enjoyed. Soooooo much nicer than what we have now.
Good comment 👌 A good analysis of that problem.
Simplest solution is to add a new equipment load type, like 40%-60%, with either different invincibility frames, more rolling distance, or slightly increased stamina regeneration. Wouldn’t be hard to implement. Would be nice if leveling STR also slightly increased max equip load for heavier armors.
Well No Theres a build called a flynn bud where you hit like a truck and all you can wear is master attire + a light weapon
Sure you sacrifice and ring slot but you only really need +sword ring and Favor+3 you have an extra slot for whatever
@@justasalamander2621 there’s the low equip load Flynn builds and the high equip load tanks, but no benefit for staying in between.
@@drakebloodknight7981 depends what Soul level you're talking about.
Really low level? Like 1-30? You want a balance
40-60? Balance
70-80 is when you really start wanting higher load or less and so on
i love how he called others maidenless after using a glitch to kill them
they even steal the humour without regard to its actual meaning
Let’s face it souls games have gone too mainstream
Lmao, noticed how he used the bleed aoe exploit in order to kill the boss that drops Bhs? 💀
It’s really funny listening to people saying that you shouldn’t care what people do in pve, this is what happens, ultra cancer pvp guides from people who couldn’t beat mist noble
@@vmk2466 I mean you shouldn’t, but at the same time if you beat elden ring with BHS you played the game on journalist mode.
@@joshuapeters3998 someone called me a masochist for saying that using the carian retaliation glitch against malania was a brain dead move
@@vmk2466 I mean I don’t blame you, Malenia is a boss that straight cheats anyways.
@@dekkan_0771 cope
I still cannot believe something like “BHS” exists in a souls game…
Yeah it’s pretty sad, at the least it’s useful against people who spam. Most definitely a love-hate relationship.
Fromsoft really be like: "Hmm, quickstep is pretty strong but what if we create a stronger version that travels 5 times the distance and makes you completely invincible while spamming it. To balance it out it costs 2 more fp. That seems fair."
Wonderful job done by them, we’re highly swift, also it reduces the chances of us getting caught by attacks. A Win-Win in my eyes
@@mioko9796 ... are you copping to being a shitty exploitative player
@@mioko9796 Yeah a item that literally makes the game a joke in pve and pvp is good and fair 🙄
"If youre a melee player, you really only need 10 Mnd-- if you're a Bloodhound Step user, you can crank that to 99"
This is officially my favorite G9 quote ever 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
45:30 Jee's reaction really speaks for itself. That was pretty insane.
Yeah that pissed me off
The Audacity
It’s literally the core mechanic of pvp… what tf does the ign guy think you’re supposed to do, take every single hit without trying anything?
@killbill8921this is bait
"... and it's good at chipping away at their health"
*proceeds to instantly delete the guy with RoB L2 spam*
In Elden Ring, anything that takes more than 2 hits to kill the target is considered chip damage
This the same ign that suggested wooden shield in bloodborne 💀
Pvp guide: how to get insulted by everyone you meet in elden ring
When people said this game was gonna be like ds2 I didn’t realise they meant all the bad parts
This has none of the bad parts of DS2, that being Soul Memory and no unlimited invasion item. It also doesn't have any of the good parts of DS2, that being everything else related to the PVP.
Yeah DS2 has its own giant batch of problems on all levels.
@@ebonslayer3321 it has the "bad to terrible" boss rooster, borrowed directly from base Ds2
@@filippogrimaldi7228 We're talking about PVP here aren't we? Either way, both games do have good bosses, as they do bad ones. All of these games do, these 2 just have the most bosses.
@@filippogrimaldi7228 DS2 bosses are infinitely worse overall but Elden Ring's worst bosses are x50 worse than the worst DS2 bosses, like the gank fights or the ulcerated tree spirits for example.
The best bosses in ER are infinitely better than anything in DS2 though so it balances out lol.
13:41 I find it funny that the only parry footage they have is against themself lol
Can’t believe IGNorant forgot about the helmet swap glitch. How would I ever ‘git gud’ at PvP?
7:05 the comedic timing is immaculate
Other "gaming" media outlets have done this as well as afk farming methods
Wait... AFK farming? You mean that dumb rune thing?
@@rigrog5777 ye
If you needed any more reason to dislike IGN…
You haven't been invading people Jee, you've been invading IGN
I ran into that "Fires deadly sin+ bloodflame blade" glitch last night. Wasn't aware it existed. I smashed the host several times when dueling and I didn't recognize the buffs the last time he summoned me. I was disgusted.
@Abdulrhman sea There's a new one that stacks FDSs and bloodflame blade instead of the eclipse shotel death blight stack.
@Abdulrhman sea They only patched it for Deathblight, it works fine for other status.
@Abdulrhman sea They did for death blight. Me and my friend do taunter tongue and we have a rule. My friend is a little over leveled so he dumped his points in things he don't use like int and endurance. There is one exception. If we see a sepuku bleed build or this bs. He immediately uses law of regression. This incantation removes all buffs and effects so goodbye greese and fires deadly sin.
i'm not defending what they're doing but! what if you think of it this way: the fact that the ign tools are helping spread this nonsense means more people start using it, which in turn will help highlight all the flaws and stuff that is wrong with elden ring's pvp which should hopefully mean it forces fs to step in and start adjusting shit sooner rather than later, or risk having the pvp in this game turn into a clown fiesta
the more obvious it is that the pvp is broken (the more people complain because they got shit on), the faster they have to act. videos like the one by ign should in theory just speed up the process... at least that's what i'm hoping, and this is all assuming fs even cares about pvp, which, based on my experience, doesn't always seem like the case
On the other hand it can mean that people would think that getting 1-2shotted is ok because they can do the exact same thing, so they will get tired really quickly and leave, it is one thing, then if there will be no balance patches before dlc elden ring imo will be doomed to die in like 2 years?(i already dont see very bright future for it considering how little testing was done to balance pvp and pve in general)
fromsoft have a history of not caring
@@holmesholmes.8784 That does change, though, with sales! DS1 - almost no updates (you needed mods to make PtD edition work on PC), DS2 did have some patches that were very much needed, but maybe not as many as we'd like.
DS3 was SAVED by the patches. DS3 at launch was just as bad as Elden Ring at launch. Over the course of a year, DS3 got patched until it was at least balanced (still boring, but balanced)!
During the DS3 era, Bando-Namcai had an English-language community manager named Kimmundi who was absolutely essential for getting feedback back to the devs. Sadly, we don't have them anymore, but Fromsoft's history of patching their games has typically improved over time.
Ah yes, Accelerationism.
IGN playing 5-D Underwater Chess to fix Elden Ring 😂
Honestly I really hate the looks of the heavy armor sets, so out of spite I've started wearing nothing but the Marais Robe to dunk on people with a blue dancer talisman'd 2h Shamshir :)
Lol doge. I am planning on making a paper mache melee mage that wears nothing. Although it's currently only for pve, so I'm going with a whopping 9 vigor.
@@hunterlg13 You deserve either praise for the guts to make the attempt, or veneration for being chad enough to pull it off. Real gamers don't get salty, they git gud.
Please turn this into a regular thing you do. There are so many shit build clickbait videos out there with large amounts of views that have so much bad information, and sometimes even straight up misinformation. This kind of content is desperately needed!
Rage gaming weirdos
@@ephemeralnihilist ragegamingvideos' clickbait probably minted half the rivers of blood spammers online today fr so many people just take some tryhard build off the internet and make it everyone else's problem.
@@ephemeralnihilist rage gaming to me are ok, they still make mostly good content but promoting tryhard bs is not good
If I see Bloodhound Step in a duel then I'm just leaving. I'm there to duel not chase you around the arena until all your fp flasks are depleted. At least with invasions using stuff like BHS makes sense because your goal is to survive and win at any cost. BHS in a duel is just disrespectful of people's time.
That is dueling... Learn ranged attacks and status effects exist. It'll get easier.
@@rigrog5777 The guy you were watching was complaining about it... also bloodhound in this state was invincible pretty much, there were almost no frames to get an attack in if they spammed it so unless your a mage with stars of ruin or some other obscure spell have fun waiting for their fp to run out.
I can’t believe fromsoft brought back the tranquil walk of death in Elden ring.
IGN guides are casual guides for casual folks who don’t feel bad about using Stars of Ruin and BHS. Shouldn’t expect anything more honestly.
Exactly. You can’t expect everybody to play a game the way you want it to be played. Lol
Actually you can.
By setting up a tournament discord server and forcing players who participate to abide by a ban list.
In my opinion, this is a good way to reinforce a community-driven PVP player base. Respect for players who respect others by not using dishonourable exploits or game-breaking ashes of war.
@@DaPerfecto57 actually you can’t, not everybody who plays this game uses discord/Reddit or any of that other shit, some people-believe it or not play the game casually and don’t care about PvP the way you people do. It’s an afterthought to most people especially casuals
@@PSNMirru Then why are you here? Go play the game "how you want" and everyone can just sever when you BHS across the arena when you start losing.
Anyone who feels bad about BHS instead of sorry for anyone using BHS is a scrub. Period. Real gamers don't die to a damageless dodge. If you can't figure out the multitude of solutions (parry, retaliation, ranged, dots, even just managing terrain), nerfing the game until you win isn't the solution. That just ruins the game. You need to adapt to the game rather than demanding the game adapt to you. Git gud or get out. Period.
WHAT NO MENTION OF BEASTIAL SLING INTO HONED BOLT GLITCH CASTING??!!
dunno if that’s a glitch, spell combos have always been a thing.
now the dragon incantations, idk about those
@@broduel just pointing out they didnt mention it since its busted and everyone and their grandmas does it…and well they are promoting everything busted soo
It's not glitch casting unless you do 2 bestial slings and then honed bolt, 1 sling into honed bolt is just chain casting
@@sonfgodla5508 he’s L2 spamming do you think he has any of the skill to pull of those combos i bet these scrubs aren’t even claw gripping in these matches
@@BBBerti ive played over a thousand duels…have won id say 75-80% using off meta weapons i mostly mained serpent bone blade until it was too easy..just to tell you my rob is level 1 because ive never touched it..THEY ALL DO MORE THEN ONE BEASTIAL SLING INTO HONED BOLT
It's funny he tries to explain the op stuff to win pvp easy but barely mentions bhs and actually doesn't speak about dual wield specially dual naginata nor broken non legendary weapon arts that would requiere some skill like giant hunter
If it requires some skill it's not for ign my friend 😅
LMAO... BHS? You mean the 1.5x dodge that burns FP, blocks useful ashes and LITERALLY DOES ZERO DAMAGE!?! Come on, man... Who dies to that trash? Just slap a few poison darts on the idiot or manage terrain and move on.
This IGN guide is the reason we need dislikes back.
You know it’s funny. I played a meta build for a while. High poise, royal knight’s resolve lance, meta level, multiple buffs, offhand BHS (before I realized how broken it was), but it doesn’t compare to the fun I’ve had just playing whatever build I want. I grabbed a Partizan, maxed it out and slapped on spinning slash and am using it like the DS3 partizan and I’m having so much more fun. IGN isn’t just peddling broken stuff that makes you a bad player, but I guarantee the players using that stuff are not going to have as much fun as using a regular build and experimenting. Not only are they making the PvP scene worse, but they’re robbing any player who tries this of real growth, developing a specific playstyle, and having actual, engaging fun.
Videos like IGN are why I use "Return RUclips Dislike" addon.
@@TizerakYT I didn’t even know about that, thanks for telling me. I’m gonna have to check that out
@@maxdrags3115 They’re quite literally recommending cheats and weapons/ashes that are entirely broken. Whether or not they do it on purpose doesn’t matter, it’s the fact that they clearly didn’t bother to do any actual research and just did a surface level search on how to win, and not how to make a useful build or how to improve as a player. It’s a mishmash of broken things with zero regard for how it might impact people who are new and want to get into PvP. Not only is it bad for the health of PvP and the experience of new invaders and duelists, but a lot of the information shown is just completely incorrect. Whether or not it’s on purpose doesn’t matter when it presents falsehoods as facts and encourages exploits and abusing broken mechanics
This almost tops their ridiculous Bloodborne guide.
Do i want to watch that even if it is only for laughing or it will make me angry instead???
@@Santi.Ocampos Watch Zero Lenny's playthrough that follows the Bloodborne IGN guide.
@@Sharkamfss thanks king, i will
@@Santi.Ocampos He also did one for Demon's Souls (from 2009)
"Ideal for chipping away at your enemy"..... as the screen shows 1497 damage....
The sheer lack of effort, it took to get this much wrong, is staggering. I mean, the sheer amount of resources that he would have to ignore is impressive. Fextralife, Chrightt's entire channel, and any number of web articles authored by people who did their research. No evident efforts to consult actual pvpers, this is the epitome of half-assed work.
Or... oh I dunno... actually playing the game (pvp) for 5-10ish hours?
Fextralife does get some of the things he mentioned wrong, like how the bull goat talisman works and is generally a poor source to get accurate information. For IGN this was actually pretty passable, especially effort-wise. Which is actually quite sad, now that I think about it.
Game journalists aren't gamers... This isn't new.
>plays a souls game
*"if dodging isn't your thing"*
It's so funny whenever you see a tips and tricks type video for a new game (especially multiplayer) just boil down to "pick a top tier or something straight up busted" as if that's helpful for anyone. Just encouraging players to find a crutch is so anti-fun.
its not only IGN there are so many content creators sucking this game off for shitty PVP . creating these brain dead straight-go builds . its irritating
@@julesgallaway1937 You mean mister scream and powergame, but have negative skill?
I member the wolf ring used to give you a flat 40 poise and you can wear whatever you want (Not to mention toggle escape is a thing)
Turtle build also wont be such an annoyance if dead angle or guard break attack (from ds2) is still a thing
Sucks how the one thing that adds poisr in this game talisman wise works by percentage instead of a flat boost.
@@hongkong8907doesnt the bullgoat talisman actually reduce poise damage taken by 25%?
People are trying their hardest to sweep this exploit under the rug until From fixes it.
Meanwhile IGN: LOOOOL LOOK AT THIS EPIC BUILD WE JUST DISCOVERED
Every dev at fromsoft should do 10 invasions each at meta and fix the game based off of their conclusions. They just need to experience it.
That's called playtesting, and they already do that.
@@rigrog5777 1 month later but no they dont really, not for PvP in the slightest and PvE on release was COMPLETELY broken. They playtest to make sure the game FUNDAMENTALLY works, not for actual bugs. For PvP? They could care less.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 Meh... Don't care, already moved to other games, won't buy more from that company. Glad I finished it before the nerfs, but would not recommend.
Over level 200 and using soreseal lmaooo
god I fucking miss DS3 where I would get pissed at gankers in anor londo for roll spamming, now when I see someone fucking ROLL instead of using BHS I breath a sigh of relief because thank god I can play the game today
I like how G9 turned a 12 minute video full of bullshit into a 50 minute video of calling out all the bullshit
27:13 if you use the "build" IGN has concocted, please use this. You won't get one shot. I promise :)
This is just depressing. The average elden ring pvp player just has 0 idea. I don’t think theres another game in which the general community is so clueless
Nerf beggers... Sad... Used to be git gud or get out, now it's "the game should adapt to us, not us to the game". Damned toxic casuals...
It's game journalists, what did you expect? Of course they would take the easy way out because they lack any sort of real skill. It just speaks more to the fact that more people that play games these days are, no meme intended, casuals. These types of guides are meant for the casual player who lacks real skill and more or less depends on glitches, exploits, or whatever is over powered to feel like a winner.
Are they still a winner? Up for debate. I think using exploits or way overpowered stuff takes away any kind of victory. Some people will say a win is a win.
Those people didn’t learn didn’t improve and had a hollow victory
I wouldn't care if someone has fun by using glitches and exploits in PvE. It's absolutely unforgivable if they do that in PvP tho, as they're basically getting an unfair advantage against their opponent.
Pve wise? Who gives a shit, shadows of yarhnim was shit fight so yeah i did the exploit and jumped into the arena, it took platforming skill. If From cared they would take that out like they did with the original way to get into the nox duo at sellia. In pvp it doesnt count as a win obviously.
Don't care, but it affects rest of multiplayer community, and in quite a negative way.
Some people are wrong.
Decided to main whips in elden ring and oh boy what a wonderful decision it was, once you really learn the weapon you'll no longer worry about armor, just wear anything you want for fashion, it's all about knowing your matchup range and positioning
"Look a that! Every frame that we stop in has a meme on the screen", almost choked in laughter at the comical absurdity of all of this
When Elden Ring players get to DS3:
"Wait. What? Every single movement here can be punished? Weapon-art does lower damage than the whole HP bar? Quickstep is punishable by timing?"
IGN has also promoted pirating Metroid Dread on PC not even a week into its release. They really need to cease to exist as a company.
How brazen do you have to be to advocate theft of another's property to an audience and expect nothing to happen to you?
Feels like from is abandoning their pvp scene, even though that’s what keeps their games alive. I regretting wishing away ds3 while it was still active. That was far more fun just based on the better balance between builds. Hopefully they will iron the balancing in ER within a couple of years lol
I fully anticipate FromSoft announcing that their next game just won't have PvP at all. It's very clear that they think it's more trouble than it's worth.
@@Cloudberry_1 will be pirating every non-pvp from soft game onwards if they do that
@@Cloudberry_1I think that is the right move. PvP ruins everything. FromSoftware clearly can't handle the balance between the main game and the PvP but also, let's be honest, the souls PvP community is the worst. We don't deserve a good PvP game. Everyone, hosts and Invaders go out of their way to be deplorable people. Also, the one time FromSoftware made a fully single player game, it turned out to be a masterclass in video game combat, so...
@@MrMetalhorse wtf are you talking about
@@MrMetalhorse No man.
Ds2 was fair and balanced.
I am a mediocre player, i stick to duels, don't particularly love invasions, i avoid the meta in any way possible in any game i play...
Despite this i managed to win rows of 10-15 duels on the bridge in ds2, parrying with any weapon and even spanking some ganks (people ganked summoned reds back then)...
Most of my builds in these games are quality (rarely perfectly equal str and dex) + elemental (be it magic with int, lightning with fth or darkness/fire with both, so nothing specialized or optimized, as i like using many weapons with every character) and they always worked well up to ER.
Ds2 was the best souls' pvp imo, despite the game's blatant pve flaws.
Ds1, ds3 and ER pvp scenes are pretty unbalanced if compared.
Everyone and their grandma are always shitting on Tanimura and team2, but they should be given control over the pvp aspect, because it's clear to me that Miyazaki only cares about story, looks and mood of the game...
I can't wait for rivers of blood to get nerfd so I can finally try it out
They won’t nerf it because they would lose 3/4 of their player base before the DLC drops
I’m hoping they buff the damage and range so I can 2 shot Rahdan from Limgrave
I would love a (or multiple) real educational video from you. Touching the topics like Weapon recommendations for learning spacing at the beginning, Spacing in general or maybe weapon specific, How to handle latency, How poise works / refills, How to remove or apply agression etc.
Fun fact: at the moment of writing this comment the ratio of Likes and Dislikes on IGNs vid is 370 to 1.4k
As someone who uses radagon soreseal at level 11, I can tell you this. You better have some buffs to offset the increased damage you will take
1. gives "build" tips
2. no actual builds seen
3. RL+200
4. is duelling
5. fatrolls
6. recommends BHS
7. recommends glitches
8. calls other players "maidenless" for literally dodging
9. edge walks on wins
10. gg
Also, it's stuff like this that makes me wonder if solo invasions would have destroyed the casual fandom. The carnage would be insane. Or maybe these people would balance each other out. Mhm...
I wish poise wasn't so important. I still prefer to fashion souls/theme build even if I'm at a disadvantage. I'm not hating on people that feel they need the high poise armour but would be nice to see more diversity.
That was nice in DS3
Poise is for people who get hit...
either looking stupid and tank attacks or get interrupted constantly by a tiny toothpick with good fashion.
the duality of souls player.
I think Jee should follow the IGN guide in the next tournament but only using allowed weapons
i have a mod for my firefox with i still see dislikes, now its 721 dislikes so far
edit: 1.4K atm
It's not patched? Thought they fixed that last time or was that just for the death blight one?
Also; Seeing them recommend bull goat and veteran armor makes me happy as then less people will wear the best fashion armor that is the banished set
The FDS exploit was fixed for death blight, poison, sleep, normal bleed, scarlet rot, and frost. However, blood flame and black flame (incredibly useless BTW) still work.
Ah i found another, did you spend 10 hours grinding the armour?
@@vmk2466 the unaltered version
@@panopticonsdeath are you on Xbox, i have a spare
@@vmk2466 Yes, for the scarf helm and the caped chest and it looks glorious
I'm so frickin mad I fell asleep during this segment! I even fought against AND alongside Jee and could have done so even more but I had to screw up and fall asleep! It was fun while it lasted at least. I even got to fight 2 other guys who summoned me during the wait. Gg's to the both of them, whoever they may be...
"Baby Ring, have your 2 level 500 summon body guards carry you to the elden ring" *title music intensifies*
Today I made like 10 invasions in a row. Without lying the host always had to phantoms with him and all of them were using one of the OP katanas. Today sucked hard
Stealth, bow and status buildup...
I’m new to souls games elden ring is the first one I played, my main goal was to get rivers of blood, but when I got it and how powerful it was and how it was just Lt spam it ruined the whole mood. I went into a boss fight where I was just getting stomped, barely getting any damage in but as soon as I equipped rivers of blood it was a cake walk and it didn’t feel like I did anything to beat them, I use colossal weapons and halberds stuff like that love the bonk.
Watchdog staff is cool
There is no difficulty in between. Either piss easy, or tedious with difficulty that feels artificial. That's my experience anyway. Still a great game, but without pvp or bossfights that feel addicting, I don't have a reason to play.
Remember miyazaki's own words of focusing on players feeling satisfaction after defeating a challenge ? Wonder wtf was going in their minds making this game
First run, duel daggers... Stun locked bosses, pretty much abandoned the character... Tried again with one starting game katana... Stun locked Renalla... Sad. Seriously, why isn't there a stun lock immunity build up after stunning? They have poison build up, just do it the same: Stunning should add to the bar, do too much too fast and they get temporary immunity for a bit...
Improved title: IGN teaches you how to be a meta slave NPC with no original thought
You can't spell ignorance without IGN.
Wonder when the IGN chainsaw guide comes out xD
18:21 look at his buffs lol he even has Fias debuff ahahahahhah
I'm thinking about making a STR/INT zwei/darkmoon build is that good or
The guide is absolutely laughable overall. The little informed points they make during the video are completely and ultimately overshadowed by a lack of game mechanic knowledge (fire's deadly glitch) and creativity (recommending RoB, stars of ruin, bloodhound step, poise monster armor mostly, bloodhound fang, moonveil, dragon communion incantations, etc. I did not see 1 single thing that the meta isn't already using/abusing. There are hundreds of weapons and spells on the game with more creative movesets and different casts etc but they resort to the 1-shot, infinite dodge, spammy meta.
30s in and i can tell this is gonna be great lmao
5:34 it’s more than just that I use a carian knight build using the carian knight armor and do just fine
honestly fire's bloody sin does punish dodge spamming, because you have to run away, he'll catch up if you spam roll
Dung Eater was right...
I actually like to use Moonveil on a low poise fashion set up to bait people into thinking I'm a moonveil noob when really I'm a combo mage. You can cast spells while moonveil is sheathed with no penalty to casting speed, so I like to act like I'm tossing out a moonveil but then quickly throw out a Gavel of Haima or a Glintstone Arc to rollcatch. Maybe do the old carian slicer into piercer rollcatch, they almost never expect it too cause everybody is so conditioned to expect the moonveil slice to come out the instant that they sheath.
Dude, you are a hero to me. Almost all moonveil users I have seen only do AOW then roll then repeat over and over and over, it is so boring.
I once faced a dude with a moonveil that did 90% of my hp 55 vigor and no bling, if I ever hit him then he would just BHS away from me and spam moonveil somewhere else, I was a dude with a club and alone, just a long club.
The dude was an invader, I often use TT to fight invaders solo to see how their builds work at certain RL or just to have some fun fighting.
@@cristhianalmendares8276 if you do AOW and roll wouldn’t you just run out of mana and die? I mean i would love fighting moonviels if they are all like that.
@@dudeiii2069 I could try, but… I simply don’t have the patience to dodge moonveil 9-11 per flask for arround 10 minutes. And also, people are smart, there is going to be a point where mindlessly spamming the AOW is going to have a real cost.
Have you tried the ruins greatsword yet, Jeenine? It may seem scummy, but it feels so good to launch gankers into the air with its weapon art. Many people underestimate how fast the weapon art is or it’s range or just don’t know how to dodge it which makes the weapon art hit hard and often
56 MINUTE VIDEO??? LESGOOO!!!
The bottom feeders of IGN straight back at it. What even surprises you 😂
the very original blood build!
Jee's reactions are priceless, clicked on this reaction video immediately, was satisfying!
"We recommend the fingerprint stone shield"
My sides!
I have only watch like 2 minutes of the video and I feel like this is all a joke to troll people like us who know of unoriginal this and how stupid some of their ideas are.
Not refering to Jeenine of course, I am talking about the IGN clip.
I truly hope that slowly the E.R player base comes off the Copium and accepts the game is not that good.
PvP is bugged, PVE scaled ludicrously, Hell Malenia had that glitch that made her insta die in phase two, so what does From do?
They make it so she can’t be put into phase 2 by ripostes or status, and haven’t dropped a patch since.
The Souls saga is over boys. “This spot marks our grave.”
Elden ring is just worse dark souls in every way other than map size. But that seems to be ignored by the 80% of Er players that never played souls before.
Havent we had a few balance patches though
Dude, you probably didn't see DS2 and 3 in their early days. ER is certainly not worse, and yet not better than it's predecessors. It's the same kind of bullshit. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, just google videos with hexes, infinite stunlok by broken swords, horrendous hitboxes in both games that were wider than fucking Big Smoke.
Btw, no copium. It's just funny to see the exact same reaction of Souls community to new games for more than a decade.
@BadlandsChugs_20 You’re entitled to your opinion but I disagree. It has the best aesthetics and world building sure, but it has 100% the most egregious level of bullshit I have ever seen in the series. I never said you can’t play it or have fun with it either, as if you do that is great. However I am still going to stand by my opinion that this is by far, at least in terms of replaying the game or engaging in PVP, the worst in the series. Bar none.
The solution to Bloodflame Fire's Deadly Sin: Swap the cast duration and speed of Blackflame and Bloodflame, and keep the Deadly Sin effect. Bloodflame is already better than every other weapon buff with its duration and bleed effect, shorter duration would require more FP to be spent on it while giving only a shorter duration buff to apply the burning bleed. This also would make Fire's Deadly Sin decent with Black Flame which saps health but isn't as sudden or as much damage as Blood Loss triggers. If you don't have these effects, Deadly Sin has little use besides popping bubbles which can be done with a consumable.
Stacking poise will only help you so much against the win button your enemy is mashing. You just need to know how to use the moves that break poise.
I've learned a few things from watching you and i try to apply them to the best of my ability when i play.
But this IGN vid quite literally shows why i stopped playing elden ring pvp it's just exploits and 1 to 2 shot galore with no real skill behind it.
Hope the game gets a proper patch some day till then i'll continue to watch and enjoy your content.
2 shot is two too many...
Congrats on more views then the original
maybe they can fix poise by making poise determine your movement speed or attack speed?
I enjoy the cleanrot set it’s kinda a middle of the road for poise and weight and it just looks awesome
ign gives zero fucks about fun or longevity, its all about the clicks bb.
2:50 or check out jeenines guide 💀
I think the best way to balance RoB is make you lose health when using the skill like all the other blood AoW
Should we go back to DS3 sword an board spam?
IGN moment
Sometimes I wonder if I have the willpower to organize a decent build guide, but really couldnt give worse advice and info than this. Could I?
I remember when I was using the Soreseal and everything was oneshotting me. I looked at my stats and noticed that shit had me in the negatives for damage negation. I already play on hard mode (aka style over effectiveness) but that was a little too much.
When you play naked with 9 vigor, every shot is a oneshot...
ty for this video I was dying w laughter all the way through it omg soreseal at 209 the chat was killing me ! LOLS
what's the bet this guy thinks AFK Farming is a hi-IQ big-brained PvP strat 😂😂