EXPOSED!! Double Brokering Caught Red Handed!
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- EXPOSED!! Double Brokering Caught Red Handed!
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Can you BELIEVE this??
One of the primary issues with brokerages, and consequently why they are held is much low esteem, is the act of double brokering! Double brokering is the ILLEGAL act of a broker or carrier transferring a load to another trucking company WITHOUT notifying the shipper.
In a legitimate shipper-broker agreement, the broker assigns loads to carriers, and those carriers pick up and deliver the loads according to the terms of a broker-carrier agreement.
Join Ronen as he unveils a double brokering scheme!
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📚 Chapters
00:00 Introduction: Call With Double Broker
02:30 Situation Breakdown
04:03 Diving Deeper: Contacting Our Accounting Department
06:08 Our Discoveries and Steps To Take Against Them
07:15 Looking At The Companies In Carrier411, Exploring The Scheme
10:29 Reporting To DAT, LoadLink, Leaving Reviews, Following Up With The Broker
18:52 Conclusion
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As an Owner/Operator myself, the rule of thumb is, if the person calling me about my availability has an Indian accent, hang up the phone. This is the single best way to protect your business.
Simple but potentially highly effective
I have been following this rule for years!
I send them a fake link with my info, when they click on the link it tells me their ip address and guess what! Most of them are in Pakistan.
The new “I don’t speak English” is “bad connection”
Ah yes the "English is no good" line. Always hear that.
Yeah
I think the government should get involved about these scams.
Some would say the government is a scam
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-Newsthe government needs to scam the scammer
The government has gotten involved now as of just a couple of weeks ago.
@monsterpke857 really?
@dimab8753 because of all the fraud. In 6 month how we do trucking will not be the same. New MC number laws. New laws to be on a spot market, New 1099 laws that will make 90% of truckers w2 drivers now.
We need more videos like this , I love it!!
Thanks for exposing this bastard! Thanks for the content! Keep it up 🎉
This was fantastic Ronen 😂😂😂
Thank you for watching
marco pablo is tha mexican version of marco polo when they go swimmin
Very informative and useful not to get in trouble with scammers. I get a lot of phone calls from scammers to move some freight or dispatch service who probably scammers as well. We need more videos like this for sure to prevent carriers to trust people and getting in trouble
We hope others catch these signs earlier than we did
First rule of being a con artist. Deny deny deny. Guilty. If he was innocent he would try to help figure out what happened
Truth there
Love your Channel and thank you for all the content!!
Thanks for watching!
This was awesome! Great video !
Thank you very much
This is why I screen everything through my factoring company OTR SOLUTIONS
100% the best decision you could've made
Sometimes that doesn't even work, If a new company, I always Google and call them back.
@@DavidTrucker-lo4bs if they are not approved by OTR Solutions I don’t even consider them. I’ve been blessed to never worry with OTR
Thank you for the content
Thanks for doing this!!! These guys are destroying the induatry
Thank you for everything you do 🙏
Thanks for watching. Hopefully others notice these signs much earlier than we did
Your prohibition on reselling loads is great. If you don’t already, your contract should stipulate damages it a load for s double brokered.
It's not even about the prohibition, double brokering in and of itself is illegal
A shame this happens, makes it hard to, like you said, for brokers to give out freight to new carriers and for legitimate companies to operate
Yes it does!
I'm just glad the carrier didn't get stiff! With NO PAYMENT. JUST BE CAREFUL OUT THE FELLOW TRUCKERS!!!
Always gotta be careful
Honestly I have driving for the last 22 years and seen this stuff like this more times than can count. You are doing a excellent job with you contest. It nice to see someone that actually a shit. Thanks you
Thanks for watching!
Schneider tanker yanker here Ronen expose em all ! I respect 🫡 keep the content love it homie
We'll definitely ensure to expose any and all double brokers that we come across
Holy crap, that's literally a few miles from where I live from that LLC info you got on carrier 411...
Wow
I love watching your videos u are a very very smart man and you really do now want u are doing keep up the good work
Thank you for watching
Great job exposing these criminals Romen👍
Thank you very much for watching
Great job!!!
Thank you very much
*****Your report is always good and this one that was super thank you very much! Greetings from Switzerland
We appreciate it!
Wow.. outstanding again thnx bud
Thanks for watching!
I love the attitude change 😂😂
From us or from him?
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Him. when he realized he was busted he started to get defensive lol
Been a long while since I had to care about prices out of Canada but $5,600 US seems like a good rate. So, I'd expect a trucker to be pretty excited with that rate and be willing to take a bit of risk with a rate con backing them. To put any of your burden on the carrier would be borderline reckless. As you said there is ways to get paid. Clearly the bigger risk is to the original broker/customer if the carrier is knowledgable and persistent. Absolutely fine by me if brokers need to do more work to loadboard freight. This gives them a lot more incentive to find good carriers and continue to work together! In the case of pathetically low rates though, 100% the truckers fault.
Things like this happen to often, these companies that do nothing making money off the trucking companies and there drivers by answering the phone and reselling the load to somebody else, it needs to stop and put the money back into the trucking companies and their drivers pocket
Way too often
Great job
Thanks for watching!
This broker is located overseas. The double ring at the start of the call means it is in Europe or southern asia
Good to know, thank you very much!
This is good this is good news it's really helping
Happy to hear that
Good Morning, Finally an executive with some BALLS. The hell with being PC, it’s about time we police our own ranks because if we don’t nobody else will.
This also shows he has the finger on the pulse of his business at the grass roots. How many honestly how many would jump into the weeds like this, I’ve seen it personally folks very very few.
So with that said, let me vent now:
- Drivers STOP parking on the shoulder PLEASE. This is getting out of hand and 30 years ago this just didn’t go on.
- You work for me and park on the shoulder for anything other than a breakdown.
I will free your future up immediately.
- Parking on the shoulder, “ so are you trying to commit murder suicide or both?”
Expose more folks like this our industry needs people willing to do what you are.
Stay safe.
We will expose any and all double brokers we come across.
Excellent video
Thank you for watching
The first time I heard that about Triple brokerage things 😳
Crazy world we're living in
Bravo good job 👏👏👏👏
Thank you very much
The limousine business is double and triple brokered however our business has that built in from the beginning. As long as each end operator has proper permits, insurance, licenses and business structure. These documents are verified by each link in the chain.
At that point, is there still a need to double or triple broker? If the first and third person on the "chain" will also have the same info and whatnot, what's the actual benefit to double brokering there? In the case of trucking, it's to stiff the carrier, but since you describe this as legitimate, I'm curious of what the limo industry stands to gain by double and tripe brokering. Enlighten me if you will
Surge transportation just came out of bankruptcy and screwed thousands of drivers, but now they are posting on Dat and have a rating of a 'B' on my factoring company guaranteed by triumph. You can't trust anyone.
Wow
Kru Rivers Trucking will run loads for you.. we are out of Jacksonville Florida
I was just online in diferent plataforms and poeple commenting they do double brokerage. Good job got them on time
People boldly admitting to being a double broker? Wow.
Thank You for exposing these pos
My pleasure
Is all double broke ring illegitimate I'm just asking cuz I'm curious and would like to know or is it always a scam
You are the best man❤
No, you are!
This is why I’m for full transparency brokerage. I don’t think loads should be be brokered more then 1-2 times
Loads should be brokered once.
Ty 🙏
Just doing our job!
Central analysis bureau has a great tool to avoid double brokering (chameleon carriers)
We'll check them out!
The government should be doing all this , I mean why do we pay them 4 ???????
At this point, why do we?
USUALLY BROKERS ENDED UP in this situation because that's the guy who called offering the cheapest price to move the load, that happens every day just another day in trucking
Sigh, just another issue that we have to deal with in the trucking industry
Easy way to deal with this particular load.
Pay the delivering company what is on their load confirmation, deposit the remainder into an escrow account, give the broker 30 days to provide all necessary paperwork to your satisfaction.
After 30 days and you are not comfortable with the paperwork, deny payment to the brokers and pay the remainder of the escrow to the delivering carrier.
Just make sure you back up everything about the brokers.
I like how you think
@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
I do too!
I don’t understand how people give loads to such entities and how others book loads with such a bad MC😢 Do your research before getting into shady business
True that
Good job
Thanks
You can even hear from hes voice is not american and also by the phone ringing you can see is eay out of Canada and Usa haha . I live this video hahaha
I hear you
this is a never ending history.
sistem is broken, this over sea intermediary and companies training call center guys that try to be independients after learning the triks.😂😂😂😂
Sigh
That’s crazy man
Crazy is indeed the word to describe this
Your guys should have never given that guy the load in the 1st place, I see some shady ass looking loads on DAT too , tough out here with everyone trying to take advantage of truckers
Fortunately, we caught it just in time
Another reason why I don't use dispatch services
That's understandable
Hello Ronen big fan of your channel !
Would love to invite you on a less informal audio only podcast sometime Trucking Tendencies on Spotify, Apple podcast, etc
Thank you
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His Owner op should be using his MC and PARS. Period. If not it's a carrier whether it's a 1 truck guy or a fleet and then it's double/multi brokering.
Yes, indeed
This must be a big reason why manufacturers are dropping brokers in general. They won't have to worry about this if they work direct with companies they know and trust.
That's why I'm a fan of shipper to trucking company. No middle man ..
It's far easier to work with a dedicated carrier than trusting a broker to find a reliable carrier for you. With brokers, you can't confirm that you'll have your freight carried by the best. We can inform a manufacturer of what we offer and provide them with the security of knowing that they WILL be receiving those features
😂😂😂😂 you're not clear, your phone is cutting. Classic
The new "I don't speak English"
Well Done . You should pay direct to the driver and nothing to that idiot
That's the plan
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News well done. This idiots need to be out
So still didn't understand how the o/o truck that did the work got paid 🤷🤷🤷. 😎👍🚛🇺🇸
Huh?
Sounds like super ego and how the double brocket. And say there paying 88% which they are after the take a grand off the top
Sigh.
Dont mess with anything with a 708 area code i was told too,youll never get paid
Nice work 🤙🏽🔱
Thank you for watching
Soon as supreme court rejected hearing the broker transparency case, my broker dropped rates, increased their percentage and changed the pay tiers.
Why do we have to use brokers?
I do everything myself, I can find n book loads also. What purpose do these places serve?
Brokers are what you consider middle men. When a carrier is completely unable to find their own loads and a shipper is completely unable to find carriers for their loads, rather than finding a way to educate themselves on how to achieve what they want respectively, they instead find a product/service that can make that task easier. That is a broker. A broker is just a middle man that knows how to find loads and knows how to find carriers and since they are doing relatively easy work, they can easily determine how much money they want the load to go for and how low they want to lowball a carrier to ensure that the difference they pocket is easily 30, 40% profit. As long as everyone involved educates themselves, brokers wouldn't be needed.
I would like to know; what would have needed to be done to stop this from happening again?
Unfortunately, you just have to be able to spot the signs ahead of time and report them accordingly
hi brother,
If a broker hasn't made payment, How can I pursue payment from the shipper ? BOL ACT ?
Take legal action
A bad google review? Shouldn’t they be charged for fraud for not paying the actual carrier??
Until they are charged, we need others to know ahead of time not to trust them. A review from a reputable source will achieve that
Ronen has to tell us how much BSC transport was supposed to receive from this Genetics broker... I wonder how much Viva was making in profit for the deal...
Undoubtedly a lot
What will happen to the actual carrier that completed the load? Will you do another part 2 of this?😬
They’ll get paid by Ronen’s company. He said they caught it in time and the payment wasn’t released to the fake brokers. Ronen is a pretty stand up dude
@@Joe_Hunt_Music that’s awesome! Thanks for your comment! You rock!
We will be able to pay them directly. Had we not caught this in time, they would have been ripped off.
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News it’s nice to know there’s a few honest folks left in the industry. You definitely did the right thing by calling them out in the video. Thank you!
This video will be a saviour for beginners I am wondering if this is the right time to jump in? With limited investment?
It's seems like person on phone also got scammed as he is actually not know what happened to him
Maybe...
You should try verifying with the driver who’s the carrier
We figured it out yeah
His name definitely wasn't frank
We figured as much as well
That’s his Canadian name we have indians at my company with names like sunny and Ann
That's not just double brokering, that's straight up scam. Good thing you cough them, report them to DAT and FMCSA. Good job
Double brokering in and of itself is a scam, yes
How come there isnt a voice signature tms platform being developed?
Fair point, maybe this is a sign for you to develop one
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News people would pay big$ for a tool like that right now.
Thats why i dont even bothered with loads that are co brokerd theres to many hands in these loads
There isn't even supposed to be, it's ridiculous
Don't use JRC they double broker all the time
Thanks for alerting us!
Are they out of CT up near Massachusetts
please help, we did a load that was double brokered and the client already paid the broker who is now not answering us. how can we get paid?
You need to report this
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News where can we report it and what can we fo to get paid?
Buddy buddy, actually I learned a lot.
Glad you did
Dispatching services is nothing more than double brokering
You think so? We personally don't offer such services
Yeah, I do think so. If one broker gets it, takes a %, then another company gets it, and takes a %.....that's called double brokering...no matter if you do define it as a "dispatching service".
@@skyeram what you just explain there is the definition of what a broker is?
I don’t see how you do it dealing with these type of people
You know... Ronen has a skill. I don't know how he does it either but it impresses me every time. Me personally? I would go insane dealing with that everyday.
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News exactly me too as well
What a headache
Indeed it is
He is skimming off the top
Sigh
Thank u buddy c’mon
Thanks for watching! Here's to hoping other people will be able to notice the signs as well
And i forgot they want to track you too boot
Just another reason to find direct customers and stay away from the spot market
100%
You messed up by giving load to brokerage and the carrier that did the load messed up by taking the load from that brokerage. Nobody double checked.
Fortunately, we caught it in time and withheld the pay
So these clowns,want wverthing from the company, drivers license, insurance, truck and trailer numbers, driver s color or race, and then give you a 1.00 a mile load
Why you giving loads to fake carriers then ?
It was obviously not intended
“Frank”
Frank
You do know his government name isn't Frank right ?
I don't doubt that
If a carrier or broker has a thick Indian accent, you should think twice before doing business with them.
Stay clear of them people. They are trouble.
And Africans
Guess that's what we'll have to start doing indeed
What about the company you are working for, they all double broker they book the shipment under one name and sell it back to them selves then take more off the top them give the shipment to the o/p.
Huh?
Something funny I heard Ronen say about calling LoadLink customer service 🤔 🙄 really do they care?
I mean, it's their job? They can also be affected if people stop using their service due to double brokers, so they will ban and bar users from their platform to ensure that people still rely on them
I heard Verified Carrier catch a lot of double brokering
Oh? Good on them. Do they expose them too? They should.
This is why Bitcoin invested to build trust issue in the world . But honestly, government is not bringing to the world because they will be the first caught red handed
Government turning a blind eye so they don't get caught with the hand in the cookie jar
Let’s talk about carrierfoul one one .
What about it?
This industry is cracked. I got to get out.
Do what be a doctor?
Damn brother
Thank you for watching
Trucking is the worst career anymore,too many crooks,lawyer scams,elogs,etc