When you want to adopt a dog at the spca or a similar organization, you have to go through all kinds of home checks, character checks, and whatever else. Its much easier to have children than getting a dog.. how unfair is that. I wish there could be some or other law that allows you to have children only when certain requirements are met. For instance, if there is an element of domestic violence, questionable or unstable employment, drug usage, shady debts and deals, previous convictions and so on, then you are not allowed to have children. I know it is far fetched, but it would help ensure that children are being protected by parents who are actually able to look after and care for them.
A seemingly stable family could lose stability quite quickly or just be a family of sociopaths. Frankly, I think bringing innocent, unsuspecting children into this world, in its current state, is a questionable act, regardless of how would-be-parents appear. Most, if not all, procreation is extremely self-centered, especially in a world where orphans are not preferred and people just want to see miniature versions of themselves but can't guarantee them a good life.
Two humans can't create a dog from nothing but they can create a child from nothing, hence the difference in ease between becoming a dog owner and a parent.
The fact a 6 year old walks by herself to the spaza shop is already a problem for me. This cannot be allowed. They are not old enough to stand up to adults.
@@kellyalexander7347 There are no means to get someone to watch chokdren 24 hours while trying to fend for a family. The problem with that is crime not struggling parents and I'm not a parent but I can't imagine watching a whole human being 24 hours. We grew up running around without being "policed" by parents. Parenting has become very very hard!
@@dot510 parenting is hard and in our society today where children are stolen Murdered etc one cannot allow your children out your sight...sorry a 6 year old does not walk to a shop by itself and time all stopped this.
@@janinecaramanus1392 Hear me very well. I am not saying parents should let children be by themselves. All I am saying is for struggling responsible parents I understand their plight, dangerous as it is. Imagine a mother/father who works a 12 hour shift, who is relying on child care and relatives to help her raise her children, maybe she also tried to find a different job but she just can't. As much as she would like to have time to watch her children, circusmatances are just too hard for her. Blaming her while I am not helping make her situation better is just burying her alive. It's easy to watch your child 24 hours when you are priviledge enough to choose to work part-time or be a stay at home mom or have supportive resposible family members. The only thing I can say is some Gen Z youth is getting it right when they choose to be child free. We just have to encourage them cause this is no longer working at least for most people.
We have an huge issue with addiction & women get there faster then men- they sacrifice the most to keep this vicious cycle rolling ... Its a very sad case
I pray to the almighty that the woman who gave birth to Joslin truly doesn't know where or what has happened to her child. Lord grant help to those searching to find Joslin 🙏 ❤
Well, we experiencing an influx from a group that still belief in things like muti etc. Bussed in for the 1994 elections and gron since then. Not referring to those that belief in modern norms. Go ahead vote for the groups that are actually responsible for this and suffer the consequences later.
Alot of people. You might find some the muthi from body parts operating underground in the traditional medicine markets. They believe it will give them influence and wealth so people in politics, churches and others. They are probably operational here in SA and our neighboring countries. There are documentaries about human body parts markets in Africa.
@@GeraldNagel-q8u your comment has very racial connotations. First of all do you know what muthi is? Know what you are talking about before you talk. Educate yourself please. Children/human trafficking, organ harvesting, and even slavery is at an alarming rate in this country. Don't you dare use this case to display your ignorance and show how racist you are. We have private hospitals doing this, and it's not just limited to "sangomas" and black people and their beliefs. It's easier to label this ring leaders to a certain group of people. Drug lords, pimps, and traffic ring goes up to the most richest and power people in the world. Research it and stop making it an political issue. Disgusting!
@@hloniphasibabalwengubo2405 you are also perpetuating ignorance and stereotype here. The black market is not a traditional healer with a black face. Explain to the people in detail what the operational ring leaders are doing instead op spreading ignorance and stereotype. Ukuthwala is not traditional healing, as a black person you should do better on educating people or just keep shut.
harming the vulnerable and innocent, especially women and children, must carry serious consequences - at least life in prison. If govt and the justice system don't drive this message through at grass roots level - this evil will continue.
Besides the child's parents, every grandparent, uncle, and aunt shares responsibility for what happened here. Neither distance nor financial situation is an acceptable excuse to avoid responsibility, especially in the case of the biological father.
If all communities can stand together like the Saldanaha community, when children get South Africa, it will be a safe place and country for children. We'll done to the community
The Nation is crying plz let the mother tel the truth in Jesus name it’s going through my whole body just to imagine how that little angel is afraid without knowing whuts gona happens to her plz I beg u whoever have het bring her home 😭😭😭😭
This goes deeper than what we see. If money is involved then poverty deepseated poverty is the overriding factor. This is the level our country has sunk to . We can try and rightsize with all our might but the problem goes beyond desperation . Today at 83 wheel chair bound i tried to find someone in the Western Cape health department . There is no such department
Stephano apparently implicated them. His story kept changing and he was nabbed first. When they said that they have someone in custody for questioning who gave credible leads and that two more arrest will follow I knew it was stephano who implicated them. He mentioned being assaulted by the police while being questioned even before his arrest. In the interrogation in SA the police use torture tactics to get you talk. That's why the arrests were made so quick after they got him.
Human trafficking is a huge and serious business in the world. Unfortunately this stems from laws that have been allowed to be passed that effects family life. Sex workers and drug rings and shabeens have destroyed the moral codes in SA specifically. It’s all about money and lack of policing in a corrupt environment
I never have high expectations of people when it comes to child safety. Kids need to be taught early to know what's acceptable or safe and what isn't. As well as to know no matter what, they don't need to keep "secrets" and have someone preferably more than 1 person they can tell issues with or run to and be protected even if it's from ourselves. Child safety is all our responsibility worldwide.
We need to develop laws where adult suspects can be legally subjected to physical interrogation if the information they are hiding can save the life of a child.
Are you seriously calling for legalised torture? If so, don’t you think that it would be abused? Who exactly would decide when it’s “appropriate” to torture “adult suspects”?
@user-in3yq9fx8z finally a person with a brain 👏🙏 these people have no idea what they're asking for 😅 they actually want legalized torture in a country run on crime and corruption 🤭🙊
This is so sad! Where is she tho, who has her ? We need a new goverment so we have someone that cares. Try call child welfare today Noone answers or they pass you on from pillar to post, it's not always easy getting help
Total wrong end of the stick. Government should more in social development to encourage a nucleas family. Children raised in these unconventional structures take the power out of the family hands. Joslins mom is a product of desperate conditions, unforgivable but speaks to a structural violence. Kids shouldnt be raised in fear, it's more so parents who need to be given authority to defend their kids by any means necessary.
This is a symptom of rapid moral declining society, in which the lack of values that enhance a culture of Agape (Including charity, empathy and unselfish service to our brothers and sisters, striving to live by the spirit of morals , laws, values etc. that will effectively address the moral woes of society ) is lacking by many in Leadership positions. It can be argued that this is very Utopiac . But at least we can try to impede the decline. My many years of observation in the schools and their environment , I have come to realize that the education systems are often faced with as dilemma, in that the schools are a reflection of the society they serve, and the society is a product of education.
You have hit the nail on the head. The events are shaped by the moral fiber of its nation. Right now we are failing dismally, we have no respect for each other, the spirit of uBuNtu is replaced by individualism, instant gratification, and hatred. We have no peace, no we don't aspire to peace, we're so far removed from God, even the devil got nothing on us at this point. Nothing is sacred to us, our communities are is chaos, our leaders are murderous, children have no parents, parents are doing yolo, and people are violent. There's a lot going on... 💔💔💔🥺
Mothers are working night shifts,wotking weekends this is mostly when children needs to be protected....make a strong law..child neglect gets life imprisonment..former years oir childt were protected by parents..in todays life they have babies like water out of the tap because they get sassa..theydrug it out nd dnt care what happens to the children.. GOVERNMENT MAKE A STAND FOR OUR CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I heard iSangoma I was already sick to my stomach not only at the title of this evil person, just knowing the possibility of what that innocent child has had to go through, might be going through, what we will find out... It's nauseating. That witch is no healer, I don't even know what to say about the mother. Just the other day I was feeling so bad like I was being judgemental, and also bashing her, I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt hoping I'm wrong, only for Herr to be arrested just as I suspected in my guy. It's sickening! 🥺🥺🥺💔💔💔💔💔💔
The black market thrives because of our love for money, greed and fame. These people sell their souls for a dollar and a fix, they sell their children off for instant wealth, they are willing to kill to have this life and that is why the market exists.
We teach our children not to talk yo strangers or go to them when they called 💔😭but there is cases where someone known to you are also evil especially killing them because the children knows them 🤬🤬 what a sad world we living in 😢😢😢
These social workers are talking rubbish, children are not suppose to protect themselves, where have you heard this, the Government are suppose to step in and protect children with parents like this, but again with everything in this country collapsing where lawlessness prevails and criminals are protected what do you expect.
Complete breakdown on the society that is south africa today. Its not just bout thia child , there Have been thousands of kids taken murderer, abused. How do we protect ourselves or pur kids today ? If we find someone creeping on our child Nd we handled them we would ve arrsted for gbh.if someone breaks in ur house n threatens u and ur kids , u protect ur home ul prob be arrested. Asking us and the children to do the jobs of authorities is another' slap in the face. If criminals had consequences for their actions i do believe it would enforce a little bit of help. There is a huge issue with organ sales here . No one wamts to talk bout it cause its a taboo.
The little girl must be found no matter what!!!;, unfortunately I don't believe this will be a cause for celebration for us when Joooslin is found. It another sad lesson for all of us. We need to ensure that any possible harm to a child is reported immediately to the police and social workers and schcol/teachers. Was this ever done .by the people that had contact with the Joslin and her family, as surely this was already evident that something was amiss. Absolutely heartbreaking 🙏
What about Mozambique children What about the children of Africa Horrendous and atrocious acts creating a future where cruelty and brutality reigns among humanity as mental illness and AI takes the lead We are fast forgetting what it truly means to be human. The future looks frightening very very frightening.......
Waar was die ander 2kinders? Weet hulle nie dalk meer van wat gebeur het nie. Hulle moes tog ook iewers daar gewees het. Niemand nog daaraan gedink om hulle te vra nie. Die 2kinders sal meer kan vertel wat se soort man of pa stiefpa is!
😢 Heartless mother! This is extremely disturbing 😢😢😢
Dont just learn your children about strangers, teach them that family and close house friends are just as unsafe as strangers!!
Sad reality! These are no longer children but prisoners. Hayi this parenting thing is no longer...
When you want to adopt a dog at the spca or a similar organization, you have to go through all kinds of home checks, character checks, and whatever else. Its much easier to have children than getting a dog.. how unfair is that. I wish there could be some or other law that allows you to have children only when certain requirements are met. For instance, if there is an element of domestic violence, questionable or unstable employment, drug usage, shady debts and deals, previous convictions and so on, then you are not allowed to have children. I know it is far fetched, but it would help ensure that children are being protected by parents who are actually able to look after and care for them.
You would have to literally take control of and micro-manage women's reproductive rights to do that.
A seemingly stable family could lose stability quite quickly or just be a family of sociopaths. Frankly, I think bringing innocent, unsuspecting children into this world, in its current state, is a questionable act, regardless of how would-be-parents appear. Most, if not all, procreation is extremely self-centered, especially in a world where orphans are not preferred and people just want to see miniature versions of themselves but can't guarantee them a good life.
Two humans can't create a dog from nothing but they can create a child from nothing, hence the difference in ease between becoming a dog owner and a parent.
You are right ❤
Many kids like joslin are living in so called stable homes
Parents are narcissists
This happens when its too late
The fact a 6 year old walks by herself to the spaza shop is already a problem for me. This cannot be allowed. They are not old enough to stand up to adults.
That happens in all townships sadly
@@kellyalexander7347 There are no means to get someone to watch chokdren 24 hours while trying to fend for a family. The problem with that is crime not struggling parents and I'm not a parent but I can't imagine watching a whole human being 24 hours. We grew up running around without being "policed" by parents.
Parenting has become very very hard!
@@dot510 parenting is hard and in our society today where children are stolen Murdered etc one cannot allow your children out your sight...sorry a 6 year old does not walk to a shop by itself and time all stopped this.
@@janinecaramanus1392 Hear me very well. I am not saying parents should let children be by themselves. All I am saying is for struggling responsible parents I understand their plight, dangerous as it is.
Imagine a mother/father who works a 12 hour shift, who is relying on child care and relatives to help her raise her children, maybe she also tried to find a different job but she just can't. As much as she would like to have time to watch her children, circusmatances are just too hard for her.
Blaming her while I am not helping make her situation better is just burying her alive. It's easy to watch your child 24 hours when you are priviledge enough to choose to work part-time or be a stay at home mom or have supportive resposible family members.
The only thing I can say is some Gen Z youth is getting it right when they choose to be child free. We just have to encourage them cause this is no longer working at least for most people.
We have an huge issue with addiction & women get there faster then men- they sacrifice the most to keep this vicious cycle rolling ... Its a very sad case
This is exactly why some countries remove children from the care of parents who are addicts.
What a sad story.. very disturbing 😢😢..Lord Please intervene. Help us find the little girl 😢
Amen and amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Still no remorse on kelly face 😱😱😱
Yes she is so guilty. Not even ashamed, she is disgusting 😔😮😮😮
This is a very heartbreaking story, whn a mother is involved in her child desepairing 😭😭😭,only god cn help find this innocent child alive..🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yeah neh! When she was asked about her boyfriend and her response said it all i quote "i dont want to answer that' something all those lines, 😢,
Thats when I knew the mother is hiding the trueth ..and Im NOT a policewoman / man 😢
How many children stay with druggies in SA??
Unfortunately too many.
Too many and it's a conversation we are not ready to have...
Who wants responsibility....
No one cares
Now its too late
I pray to the almighty that the woman who gave birth to Joslin truly doesn't know where or what has happened to her child. Lord grant help to those searching to find Joslin 🙏 ❤
Who makes muti from human parts ffs? What is the muti used for.. who sells it? Who buys it.. this is fkn scarey
Well, we experiencing an influx from a group that still belief in things like muti etc. Bussed in for the 1994 elections and gron since then. Not referring to those that belief in modern norms. Go ahead vote for the groups that are actually responsible for this and suffer the consequences later.
Alot of people. You might find some the muthi from body parts operating underground in the traditional medicine markets. They believe it will give them influence and wealth so people in politics, churches and others. They are probably operational here in SA and our neighboring countries. There are documentaries about human body parts markets in Africa.
Savages make this muti, sell it to their fellow savages
@@GeraldNagel-q8u your comment has very racial connotations. First of all do you know what muthi is? Know what you are talking about before you talk. Educate yourself please. Children/human trafficking, organ harvesting, and even slavery is at an alarming rate in this country. Don't you dare use this case to display your ignorance and show how racist you are. We have private hospitals doing this, and it's not just limited to "sangomas" and black people and their beliefs. It's easier to label this ring leaders to a certain group of people. Drug lords, pimps, and traffic ring goes up to the most richest and power people in the world. Research it and stop making it an political issue. Disgusting!
@@hloniphasibabalwengubo2405 you are also perpetuating ignorance and stereotype here. The black market is not a traditional healer with a black face. Explain to the people in detail what the operational ring leaders are doing instead op spreading ignorance and stereotype. Ukuthwala is not traditional healing, as a black person you should do better on educating people or just keep shut.
harming the vulnerable and innocent, especially women and children, must carry serious consequences - at least life in prison. If govt and the justice system don't drive this message through at grass roots level - this evil will continue.
Besides the child's parents, every grandparent, uncle, and aunt shares responsibility for what happened here. Neither distance nor financial situation is an acceptable excuse to avoid responsibility, especially in the case of the biological father.
Heartbreaking for this little innocent child 😢😢
If all communities can stand together like the Saldanaha community, when children get South Africa, it will be a safe place and country for children. We'll done to the community
Absolutely
Well done GAYTON MCKENZIE... YOU HAVE MADE A MARK!
The Nation is crying plz let the mother tel the truth in Jesus name it’s going through my whole body just to imagine how that little angel is afraid without knowing whuts gona happens to her plz I beg u whoever have het bring her home 😭😭😭😭
Is she still alive though after so long?💔💔💔
It’s heartbreaking just to think what’s going through her mind 😭😭😭😭if u can’t trust you mother who can u trust 💔💔
This goes deeper than what we see.
If money is involved then poverty deepseated poverty is the overriding factor.
This is the level our country has sunk to .
We can try and rightsize with all our might but the problem goes beyond desperation .
Today at 83 wheel chair bound i tried to find someone in the Western Cape health department .
There is no such department
How did they get to the decision to arrest the mother and everyone else?
Stephano apparently implicated them. His story kept changing and he was nabbed first. When they said that they have someone in custody for questioning who gave credible leads and that two more arrest will follow I knew it was stephano who implicated them. He mentioned being assaulted by the police while being questioned even before his arrest. In the interrogation in SA the police use torture tactics to get you talk. That's why the arrests were made so quick after they got him.
Human trafficking is a huge and serious business in the world. Unfortunately this stems from laws that have been allowed to be passed that effects family life. Sex workers and drug rings and shabeens have destroyed the moral codes in SA specifically. It’s all about money and lack of policing in a corrupt environment
I never have high expectations of people when it comes to child safety. Kids need to be taught early to know what's acceptable or safe and what isn't. As well as to know no matter what, they don't need to keep "secrets" and have someone preferably more than 1 person they can tell issues with or run to and be protected even if it's from ourselves. Child safety is all our responsibility worldwide.
We need to develop laws where adult suspects can be legally subjected to physical interrogation if the information they are hiding can save the life of a child.
Are you seriously calling for legalised torture? If so, don’t you think that it would be abused? Who exactly would decide when it’s “appropriate” to torture “adult suspects”?
100%
@user-in3yq9fx8z finally a person with a brain 👏🙏 these people have no idea what they're asking for 😅 they actually want legalized torture in a country run on crime and corruption 🤭🙊
One thing they must rot jail 😭
30 Years of 'The Better Life for All' and this is how these people live? And mind you, that is WITHOUT A WAR.
This is so sad! Where is she tho, who has her ?
We need a new goverment so we have someone that cares.
Try call child welfare today Noone answers or they pass you on from pillar to post, it's not always easy getting help
Total wrong end of the stick. Government should more in social development to encourage a nucleas family.
Children raised in these unconventional structures take the power out of the family hands. Joslins mom is a product of desperate conditions, unforgivable but speaks to a structural violence.
Kids shouldnt be raised in fear, it's more so parents who need to be given authority to defend their kids by any means necessary.
I agree with Dr Shaheda Omar very sad my heart goes out to Joslin Smith I understand and fully agree with Dr Omar the children are always the victim
This is a symptom of rapid moral declining society, in which the lack of values that enhance a culture of Agape (Including charity, empathy and unselfish service to our brothers and sisters, striving to live by the spirit of morals , laws, values etc. that will effectively address the moral woes of society ) is lacking by many in Leadership positions. It can be argued that this is very Utopiac . But at least we can try to impede the decline. My many years of observation in the schools and their environment , I have come to realize that the education systems are often faced with as dilemma, in that the schools are a reflection of the society they serve, and the society is a product of education.
You have hit the nail on the head. The events are shaped by the moral fiber of its nation. Right now we are failing dismally, we have no respect for each other, the spirit of uBuNtu is replaced by individualism, instant gratification, and hatred. We have no peace, no we don't aspire to peace, we're so far removed from God, even the devil got nothing on us at this point. Nothing is sacred to us, our communities are is chaos, our leaders are murderous, children have no parents, parents are doing yolo, and people are violent. There's a lot going on... 💔💔💔🥺
Yip !
Mothers are working night shifts,wotking weekends this is mostly when children needs to be protected....make a strong law..child neglect gets life imprisonment..former years oir childt were protected by parents..in todays life they have babies like water out of the tap because they get sassa..theydrug it out nd dnt care what happens to the children.. GOVERNMENT MAKE A STAND FOR OUR CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly ...they even to lazy to go the the local community clinics to get family planning help and preventitive medication
Disappointing 💔
Umm..no we've become so desensitized that 'it doesn't matter if it's a body that we find ' this from department of social development
It's disgraceful that she could say that, and so offhandedly. 😢😢
Kelly is quit someone hey .....my gosh . Yoh the devil at work
When you have an evil equation of drugs, mhuti, and money on one side and innocent children on the other side, expect the worst.
When I heard iSangoma I was already sick to my stomach not only at the title of this evil person, just knowing the possibility of what that innocent child has had to go through, might be going through, what we will find out... It's nauseating. That witch is no healer, I don't even know what to say about the mother. Just the other day I was feeling so bad like I was being judgemental, and also bashing her, I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt hoping I'm wrong, only for Herr to be arrested just as I suspected in my guy. It's sickening! 🥺🥺🥺💔💔💔💔💔💔
Its so sad that we as parents must live in fear for our children..why cant the black market be stoped the sell and kill for muti that is so cruel 😢
The black market thrives because of our love for money, greed and fame. These people sell their souls for a dollar and a fix, they sell their children off for instant wealth, they are willing to kill to have this life and that is why the market exists.
We teach our children not to talk yo strangers or go to them when they called 💔😭but there is cases where someone known to you are also evil especially killing them because the children knows them 🤬🤬 what a sad world we living in 😢😢😢
Tik Koppe !!!!
These social workers are talking rubbish, children are not suppose to protect themselves, where have you heard this, the Government are suppose to step in and protect children with parents like this, but again with everything in this country collapsing where lawlessness prevails and criminals are protected what do you expect.
I'm suspecting joslin'mom and her boyfriend are main actors on this
Complete breakdown on the society that is south africa today. Its not just bout thia child , there Have been thousands of kids taken murderer, abused. How do we protect ourselves or pur kids today ? If we find someone creeping on our child Nd we handled them we would ve arrsted for gbh.if someone breaks in ur house n threatens u and ur kids , u protect ur home ul prob be arrested. Asking us and the children to do the jobs of authorities is another' slap in the face. If criminals had consequences for their actions i do believe it would enforce a little bit of help. There is a huge issue with organ sales here . No one wamts to talk bout it cause its a taboo.
The little girl must be found no matter what!!!;, unfortunately I don't believe this will be a cause for celebration for us when Joooslin is found. It another sad lesson for all of us. We need to ensure that any possible harm to a child is reported immediately to the police and social workers and schcol/teachers. Was this ever done .by the people that had contact with the Joslin and her family, as surely this was already evident that something was amiss. Absolutely heartbreaking 🙏
Bring jocelyn back home😢😢😢😢😢
Who are children going to trust now Trust only the Lord🙏
😭😭😭😭so true who do they trust can’t even trust your own mother that is just heartbreaking
Children can’t even trust the person who birthed them in this evil world
The mother knows wat she has done to here own child, some parents are not fit to be parents
Where's Joslins biological father
What about Mozambique children
What about the children of Africa
Horrendous and atrocious acts creating a future where cruelty and brutality reigns among humanity as mental illness and AI takes the lead
We are fast forgetting what it truly means to be human.
The future looks frightening very very frightening.......
Where is Joslins biological
Im from Ladysmith nkr and the people in my place were wee live bring jocelyn back home
Waar was die ander 2kinders? Weet hulle nie dalk meer van wat gebeur het nie. Hulle moes tog ook iewers daar gewees het. Niemand nog daaraan gedink om hulle te vra nie. Die 2kinders sal meer kan vertel wat se soort man of pa stiefpa is!
Cursed name Kelly
😂😎
Please hey get a life