Orbán in Hungary: the rise of populism - Docu - 2018
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2018
- Populism is on the rise in central and eastern Europe, including in Hungary where George Soros lead the post soviet dictatorship transition towards an open society with democratic values. Hungary under Prime Minister Viktor Orbán means there's a no migrants policy, and that the press and the George Soros university have been declared enemy of the state.
In Budapest, the Central European University has been founded and funded by the billionaire George Soros to propagate the values of an 'open society'. But these Western European values, such as the separation of powers, free media and freedom of education, are under pressure in the run-up to the elections on April 8.
It is generally assumed that the seated popular and populist Prime Minister Orbán will win by force majeure, but nothing is certain. The atmosphere in Hungary has changed radically since the fall of the wall in 1989. Billionaire, speculator and philanthropist George Soros then conceived the plan to shape and financially support the transition from the Soviet dictatorship to an open, democratic society. He saw an important role for a university that was to be set up: the Central European University in Budapest. He recruited students from more than twenty former Soviet states for this. They were to form the future intellectual elite that would protect and shape democracy and an open society in the former communist countries.
Now, a quarter of a century after its launch, the Central European University and George Soros have been declared public enemy in particular by the nationalist government of Orbán. Recently, 70,000 Hungarians took to the streets to protest, but Orbán has not yet been blocked by Europe. The struggle of the nationalist government against an institution that advocates an 'open society' is typical of the broader development in Central and Eastern Europe. Even in Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Bulgaria, nationalist parties win the elections. It raises the question of what went wrong. Has the West underestimated the desire for an own identity and populism in Central Europe?
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Credits:
Director: Jos de Putter
English, French and Spanish subtitles: Ericsson.
French and Spanish subtitles are co-funded by European Union.
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The English subtitles have been corrected and updated. We apologize for the inconvenience.
We understand that a lot of you are pro Orbán and unhappy with this documentary. We will hear your opinion, however, please do not comment with links or insults. You will better be heard if you keep it constructive. Thank you for watching.
Than why aren't you here?
After all Germany is such a bad country, you better come back home.
From Romania to poland every east eu country has a growing economy.
Our growth rate is actually lower than the neighbour countries.
325 Ft = 1 Eur lol
In Hungary
Every 3rd Marriage ends up with divorce.
Every year we are 20 000 people shorter, because birthrate is low.
The most children are born in Szabolcs-Szatmár Bereg county, but still more people die, and less people are born every year.
Of course there is no terror (Bőnyi rendőrgyilkosság)
The political scene is stable, partly because the opposing parties are useless (I mean really)
I think it's a good docu.
Umm... When I watched ZML clip about Sargentini&Orban, then I realized what happened in Hungry. Oeps.. Hungary.
Why didn't you include the PROVEN FACT that Soros worked with the Nazis to confiscate land&property from Jews?
@Márk Bányai Whom exactly was killed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels ?
Don´t you think that their theory was misinterpreted? I mean, have you ever read something of them besides two lines in an hungarian newspaper?
And if Hungary was such a great place to live since 2010, then why the hell would around 500.000 young people, most of them well educated, leave the country towards the "liberal" countries like Germany, Austria and GB?
If that globalist part of the treacherous brethren... smiles and is happy to send out his newly graduated minions brain washed and ready to spread their filth all over the world.... then guaranteed that its 100% wrong and should be stopped. Like the west which is now in 2019 infested with this insane agenda and destruction of literally everything! This garbage ,this so called soros institution needs to be shut down! Indoctrination, ideologies and sick perversions have now even infiltrated our schools and have pointed our children BUT the resistance is alive and battling this insane global sexual perversion ideologies along with the rest these institutions produce and try to spread world wide. Hungary is doing great keep fighting the open borders agenda and the fight to keep out parasites from illegal states trying to gobble up everything from within as the jobbik party has stated clearly who and what they are and where they come from!
Politics aside, Hungary is an awesome country with fantastic, open-minded, beautifull and intelligent people. Im from South Africa but Ive been living in France for years, so Im lucky enough to be able to travel. Hungary is definatley one of the better European countries, and it far outshines most of the eastern block.
I can't remember anywhere in the documentary that anybody was claiming the opposite Kevin, unless you include the young emotional Hungarian student (in the pub) at the end of the programme ;)
😂😂😂😂😂
You have to be popular to become elected. This is nothing new. Calling people Populists as if they are something out of the Nazi war years, because you do not like their politics is ridiculous. A populist could be from the left, or the right, all elected governments are popular with the voters, thats how they got the job.
So you think FIDESZ is just as populist as any other government?
Left or Right, who decides what is extreme ? Protecting your borders, controlling immigration is not far right, its common sense.
laurejon
Dont know what that has to do with my question or why you commenting that, other than that being the standard go to populists answer to any question to the FIDESZ...
Márk Bányai
It does not at all:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism
Like wiki says, its close to demagogy... which of course makes you think its "what the populace wants" if you fall for it, so its quite funny that you interpret it like that.
Of course there is countless ways how you can formulate what "people want", like telling them what they should want in the first place or just asking only the questions that will get the most yes answers....
@@laurejon Controlling the borders has little to do with it, you cannot have a one party state that is not a dictatorship and that is what Hungary has.
I support anyone and any country who is against George Soros.
If I'm far right and racist for protecting my family and community from animals that want to rape and kill then yes and thank you because I'm not going to back down
No, you are just and idiot who fall for populism and recently even for cult of personality...
Please be respectful of other human beings in your comments, or I'll have to take them down. If you want to make a point, please do so in a respectful manner.
@@vprodocumentary what would you call people who follow a religious beliefs that say child marriages and putting people in cages to burn them alive?
Maria Schick
I wonder if you would be the one against such thing if you would be in such community or you would just act along your leaders?
+Maria Schick the actions of a few are not to be blamed on a whole religion. Christians do not have a clean slate either.
The english subtitle is not right.
Thank you for telling us, we are working on it right now.
Hey VPro I think you put the wrong English Subtitles for this video. They don't match up with whats being said on the screen. Just an FYI.
Thank you for the heads-up, we are going to rectify this as soon as possible.
VPRO has revealed its agenda in this documentary.
Moral panic, that's actually an accurate diagnose, expressed by Ivan at the 15th minute. I've never thought about it, but moral panic is exactly what Britain finds itself at nowadays. Gosh!
Kedves Molnár polgármester úr. Én is szégyenlem magam, hogy magát egy magyar anya szülte. Szegény, nem tehetett róla.
God Bless Victor Orbán....Please Pray for him he is a Great defender of our Culture and heritage ❤❤❤
Maria Schick imadkozok erte hogy magahoz szolitsa mihamarabb a joisten
kertitorpe
@@evellinnpink en meg hogy teged te senkihazi!
Not anymore
"As you sow, so shall you reap"
Subtitles?
More precisely for the parts that are spoken in hungarian. Thx for the upload!
We apologize but we have uploaded the wrong English subtitles in the Closed Captions. We are working on getting this fixed ASAP.
"Liberal values" = nowadays meaning. Open borders, Giving loads to the EU and making people depending on the government.
Firstly, Hungary is in Central-Europe ... just to clarify the geography ...
Secondly, I hope you are dealing with the rise of populism in your own country as well, while it is being fueled by the mainstream EU politics just like it does all over in the EU. Yes, rise of populism is an big issue, but not just in Central Europe, but all over the EU. It is very hard to keep it under control, and your country, the Netherlands, is quite an example of this!
Thirdly, what kind of a manipulative biased thing is this?! Even the subtitles are messed up ...they have nothing to do with what is being said on the video!!! Interviewing a mayor, who even admits himself that his town was almost not hit at all by illegal migratory waves, but he is obviously having a hostile political position towards the Hungarian Government?! The Two Tailed Dog Party?! WTF?! Talking to the CEU but not to other prestigious universities, from which some are older than the USA?! I mean, come on! At least pretend to be objective! This "documentary" is so biased, that it is insulting. Shame on you VPRO!
The rise of commonsense more like
I think the English transcript is for a different video. They don’t make sense.
Thank you, We are going to check it out.
The French will take all the migrants and refugees they are a welcoming warm and generous people and the French have a lot of wealth so they don't mind if you need government benefits.
they paid with blood for that, i am sad about French, very sad...because they will pay for that in many french blood
This is not true. 9 million people are poor in France. France refused to grant access to a boat full of refugees.
defending essential values = who doesn't want to work, doesn't get to eat
Wrong title: correct title should be: the reawakening of common sense
Interesting documentary, thank you VPRO for uploading it. I guess there is still hope for Hungary if a mayor, as shown 27:00 ~ 30:00, can voice his opinion freely without repercussions.
Thank you windmill1965.
He can voice his opinion, but it will reach almost nobody in the current state of Hungarian media... (About 90+% of media are in the hands of FIDESZ)
"UNIVERSAL LIBERAL DOCTRINES " ????? come on now ??? What does that even mean???
This March the US University of Norte Dame, Indiana and the Pázmány Péter University of Budapest conclude a new education agreement, within the framework of which the University of Notre Dame will be launching faculties in Budapest in 2019, while the courses of the Pázmány Péter Catholic University, which are also accredited by the Vatican, will also be on offer at the Indiana institution,
I guess the world renowned Notre Dame does not provide an opportunity for ‘free thinking’, only George Soros’ private ideological incubator does.
Quick questions, are Hungarians Europeans, I met a Hungarian women a bit darkish (more tanned than Slavs or Swedish) and was surprised she was Hungarian, are they descended of Attila the Hun or Ghenkis Khan, I was more curious and went to RUclips and searched Hungary and Turkey, and Hungary and Mongolia, the comments where reseptive ,like us Hungarians and Turks are the same blood, or us and Mongols have the same ancestors
Very biased. Vpro, Hungary built it's border based on common sense and a desire for law and order, not fear. Thumbs down.
Conservative America stands with Hungary. On a side note: Gender Studies?! Hahahahahahaha
Lol it’s literally like the liberals say Orbán is populist and dictator and conservatives say it’s biased and lie to say that.
There’s no right or wrong opinions, but just because of your personal political stance.
Populism comes from word: people. So, basically, populism is the best democracy.
"populism"... What exactly is "populism".... I can tell just by the title of the video this will be biased.
See the fact you don't know that, shows you're too stupid to understand a complex political situation. Btw populism doesn't exclusively mean right wing.
@@Just_LiqouriceThat's exactly what im saying. But people are using it today as another word for right wing.
@@MrAkurvaeletbe right but name one case of current left wing populism.
Who owns this channel?
23:25 OMG - radical artists to the rescue - please tell the workers how they ought to be thinking - you are truly marvelous - thank you for the "gift" to the people and for your ethical superiority - i am sure your profound wit and insights will make a difference.
suprisingly good documentary. i especially found Ivan Krastev's comments very interesting
Thanks, nemzetirock4ever - why surprisingly?
@@vprodocumentary foreign videos i watched about Hungary are usually horrible is some.way or an other
Welp, sorry but, this is your (VPRO) first documentary that I actually dislike. Still. Thank you for your point of view on the story! Keep up the good work!
Hungarian people specially the young, your prime minister has great wisdom and prudence to protect you and your country's sovereignty.. My prayer for you to be strong and stand still behind the leadership of your Prime Minister and i would like you to pray for us here as well in the USA where our Patriotic President is doing the same to protect us Americans. God bless us!
we need more orban and salvini.
No wonder there is unrest - Michael Ignatief: "The single biggest surprise that history has delivered to us is a form of single party ummm anti-pluralist leader driven demagogic party majority rule based ahh politics that may be very damaging to the future of democracy itself. because ahhh the ultimate end of these regimes is to create a political system in which they will be in power for ever." ...... sure, sure if you say so Michael.
At the risk of sounding presumptuous, the first minute of this documentary unfairly disparages the idea of the necessity of stringent national borders for countries who have spent the entirety of their national history at the doorstep of the USSR, Ottoman Empire, and other historical empires contra to the liberal ideologies of Western Europe. I'm definitely willing to see where this documentary goes, but using a Halloween mask to characterize the notion that strong national borders are critical to maintaining sovereignty in these countries strikes me as an American as insulting.
"Majority rule based politics...that may be very damaging to the future of democracy itself." 5:14-5:26
Not impressed so far
I have a question for all the hungarians out there: if I migrate to your country from Chile, South America, would you treat me kindly? I am a professional and I work in IT, but I've been kind of frightened because of things like this documentaries or other news and stories I see in media. Do you feel some kind of rejection though refugees or inmigrants in general? Excuse me, please, if I am getting all wrong, but I just don't know that to believe from media and news. Greetings.
Catherine Granic
You dont need to fear, yet.
Though who knows what will happen to Hungary as long people like C. G. J. eat every piece of the Hungary's ruling party's propaganda.
(To be more accurate, almost nobody will care about your nationality or your colour in Budapest, but there have been some cases in small towns where people got paranoid upon seeing black people or foreigners... (like calling police on them for no reason))
C. G. J.
Just how long should FIDESZ actually rule? Forever? You think that will be the best that can happen?
C. G. J.
Its sad you gave up democracy for cult of personality....
What would betraying look like anyway? Would they stealing 20% of country's GDP be betraying? If so would 2% be still betraying? If so....
Resté comme vous êtes , votre président à tous compris à l'ouest c'est la merde ne lâcher rien .
4:24 History has never gone in one direction. It is best compared to a pendulum. It will go in one direction, for a while, then there is a correction to adapt to the current environment.
Thank God he didn't become the Prime Minister of Canada. He would have trouble running a successful Kindergarten, never mind a University or a Country.
The english subtitles are not working there is a huge delay in their appearance
Thank you for letting us know, we are working on fixing this issue right now.
@@vprodocumentary you are welcome
mi van a felirattal!?
Sorts is only interested in financial gain for him and his cronies.the Hungary people are lucky to have a leader.who does what he was voted in to do. If only every country had a horrible man.leading their country.this is a true leader.and I have all the respect in the world for this great leader.
Orban should bring antelope to Hungary, Romania and Ukraine
Ivan, the political analyzer, is spot on, saying "The biggest divide in the world right now is, that there are people from somewhere and people from anywhere" and also at the 17:24 minute ."....You should understand that Central and Eastern Europe goes through something that social scientists call moral panic. You have the feeling that the world as you know it, doesn't exist anymore. You get such vast changes that people can't orient themselves and they're very much in a position to overreact.."
Isn't that what we see in Britain and Germany right now? Polarization, openly expressed racism, and hatred toward foreigners? Projection of fear and insecurity, keeping the moat bridge up around one's own safety of work and home? In our present world, that is changing fast, and faster? A silent revolution is happening right now, on a personal and collective level.
Thank you for a balanced documentary
Thank you Bradbel!
may god be with Hungary ....Orban and his friends.
I support Hungary and Viktor Orban! From the USA ❤️
V4 Power
I think people need their national identity. The EU kinda seems like it attempts to erase identity and create a one size fits all approach for all countries, and cultures, in the EU. Their culture, their history, etc... is all important. I think those things are worth preserving in a way that suits each specific country. We have to be careful in over-vilifying "nationalism"... it used to be called patriotism here in America... but now it's called nationalism. Just a little turn of phrase, makes it bad all the sudden. I also think getting away from the Euro may be good. It may be better in a modern economy, to go back to individual currencies. I think in some countries you will see a significant push back against political correctness. Make no mistake... Political correctness is an unequaled force thats just as strong as any dictatorship or totalitarian government. Political correctness steamrolled America and took over the work place, schools, media, music ,movies, pop culture, sexuality, etc.... Political correctness is, in reality, Cultural Marxism. So you will see certain countries ban a newspaper, or push back against a news program, etc... It's a sloppy way of doing it, but it is a blow to political correctness...which is ok. It's fair to fight back against it. Stuff is practically banned or vilified all the time by using Political Correctness.... So if Orban fights back using the Lefts own tactics... thats fine by me. If it's a government leader doing it... but the majority supports it.... how can you argue it? Yes a minority will fight back. But people who don't like political correctness, also tend to believe that the majority make the rules. There are not a whole lot of ways to fight political correctness... it's brilliant by design. And it creeps slowly, but it's an extremely effective tool for the extreme left. So there will be, at first, sloppy push backs against it... but it will level out. If you are against political correctness, that does not make you a racist or bigot... but thats what the Left calls anyone who resists. Yes there should be minority rights, but not minority rule, and thats what political correctness leads to. Political correctness automatically discounts and vilifies a full half of US citizens. So thats very dictator-like in my mind. The brilliance of it, is that it's not an actual physical dictator... it's a viral thought process. So then they try to make "nationalism" and "populism" completely bad words.... They say that patriotism by the majority is bad. "Populism" just means something is popular with the majority. "Nationalism" basically means love of your country. Yes it can, and has gone down dark roads before, but it has also gone down good roads. So they are not automatically bad. The real global fight will boil down to majority or minority rule.
Can't believe what's happened to Hungary. So sad to see it go the way of the likes of Turkey, Poland, and many other countries.
it is a Soros payed propaganda film, he has money to spread lies (i am sad to see that brainwashed hungarians also back up that) This is exactly what's liberalfascizm is. Punctually.
this documentary is full of misleading information and the english subtitles are completely off. i would have expected something more reflective of both sides of the intellectual spectrum but the story is mixed and incomplete. i dont trust this documentary to be honest....
We have corrected the subtitles issue. We apologize for the inconvenience.
I like Orban. Soros 👎
As an American, I will say that I am a huge fan of Mr. Orban. Values and identity still mean something to many people.
Values have always meant something to MOST people.
History?
Let's talk about the silenced history.
CEU has originally opened its doors in then Chehoslovakia, after a few years Cheh's throw them out because of the university's damaging views on society.
The Hungarian ex-communist government took them in, the very communists that SOROS fought against in the communist are...:)
But of course, this info is not pc...:)
kapitalist demokratic :D
Honor to Orban last patriot of Europe!!!
I wish ducth a lot of succes in the future with hoards of africans coming in their way.
Lol “populism” aka Doing your job as a politician and doing as your population wants
God bless Orban and the people of hungary! Orban = True leader that cares about his people
they didn't invade iraq afghanistan or libya so they can decide on their own
Who is this vpro? Dude, be wise, leave Hungary alone.
From Poland with love.
VPRO is a Dutch public broadcaster. Aren't we allowed to discuss Hungary anymore?
Absolutely shameful from Vpro. This is/was my favourite documentary channel, with very little moralism in the way journalists speak and no fearful music. And then comes this one way hit piece, absolutely hidding the very legitimate arguments against the insane cosmopolitan policies. Refusing to think and hidding fundamental issues under the carpet only leads to much more violent chaos in the next decade.
Hello Bvic3,
We are sorry you feel that way. VPRO like all the other broadcasters cannot make programs that will please everyone 100%. This is also that that makes VPRO different. Exploring different perspectives. It's interesting to discuss it afterwards and to have a debate about what is talked about in the documentaries. Thank you for sharing your opinion with us.
shame on u vpro!
Why?
The documentary doesen't have enoguh depth, the situation is a lot more complex & it is kind of suggesting things or steering the audience in a certain direction but, with that said, I'm sure it's not done on purpose. My 1st comment is to harsh, I'll admit that :)
POPULISM LEADS TO FASCISM .
YOU SHOULD KNOW AS A HUMAN BEING WHICH SIDE YOU ARE ON . THERE ARE NO GOOD FASCISTS AS TRUMP CLAIMS .
DEMOCRACY .
YOU SOUND LIKE A TRUMP " POPULARIST " , IN NEED OF SOME EDUCATION .