After they created the earth and the animals on it, the Father and Son carried out their intention, planned before the fall of Satan, to make human beings in their own image. They had worked together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God said to His Son, “Let us make man in our image.” FATHER AND HIS SON ONLY 2
In John 10 verses 17 and 18 Jesus said He had power to lay down His life and power to take it up again. You need to learn how to read Scripture. You go to great lengths to show that God raised Jesus, and show Scripture that indicates it. According to your logic, Jesus was a liar because you do not take into account what Jesus said in John 10. We must look for an explanation that harmonizes all that inspiration says on the subject. Did King David ever sin -- break God's commandments? He committed adultery with Uriah's wife. Yet in 1 Kings 14 verse 8, God said that David "kept my commandments, and followed me with all his heart, to do that only which was right in mine eyes." Can you explain what God said in such a way that you don't make God out to be a liar? Work on that and then take another look at your argument that it was GOD (which you obviously understand to be God the Father) who raised up Jesus. If God the Father raised Jesus up from the dead as you insist, then Jesus lied in saying He not only laid His life down but took it up again. That, of course, is absurd because Jesus never lied. Ellen White cleared up the APPARENT contradiction by saying that God the Father sent an angel to the tomb to say, "Jesus, come forth, Thy Father calleth Thee!" Jesus waited in the tomb until He heard that proclamation, and then He raised Himself. Of course we should recall that Jesus was fully God and fully man. That is the mystery of the incarnation. His human nature died, but not His divinity. Can you explain why God said that David always kept His commandments and always did what was right in His eyes? Again, Mrs. White explains it. She said that it was only during those days when David WAS obedient that God's statement about David was true. You may not believe in the inspiration of Ellen White, but I believe her ministry was the greatest gift that God could have given to His last day church.
@@Dr.Pepper001 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18 Why are we so hypocritical by not reading the Bible in its full context? Cherry picking verses isn't good for the gospel.
@@Dr.Pepper001 If Jesus raised himself, then He wasn't dead because we know the dead know nothing. The power to take up His life again is not meaning He raised himself. It means that when the Father raised Him, He had the power of choice to accept that life again or not. I thought that when SdAs teach about the state of the dead, they are asleep till woken up. Is there a scripture that states that part of Jesus remained alive?
@@murrayhamilton2658 -- Jesus had two natures. He was fully God and fully man. Read the first few verses of John chapter 1. The human part of Jesus died on the cross. His divine nature did not die because God can't die. When the angel came from heaven and said that the Father called Him, the divine nature resurrected the human nature.
When I feel oppressed, and hardly know how to relate myself toward the work that God has given me to do, I just call upon the three great Worthies, and say; You know I cannot do this work in my own strength. You must work in me, and by me and through me, sanctifying my tongue, sanctifying my spirit, sanctifying my words, and bringing me into a position where my spirit shall be susceptible to the movings of the Holy Spirit of God upon my mind and character. {7MR 267.2}
So what are we to do with the more than three dozen Scripture references that say God raised Jesus from the dead. Also, if that means that Jesus needed “help” in saving us, what are we to make of Jesus’ own words that He can of his own self do nothing and that it was the Father that dwells in Him doing the works?
Understand from the perspective of Christ being human and being an EXAMPLE to us so that we know to look to God...Christ humbled Himself to be like us to look to God.....that didnt make Him less of being God
John 10:17-18 KJV 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. When Christ was crucified, it was His human nature that died. Deity did not sink and die; that would have been impossible. Christ, the sinless One, will save every son and daughter of Adam who accepts the salvation proffered them, consenting to become the children of God. The Saviour has purchased the fallen race with His own blood. 19LtMs, Lt 280a, 1904, par. 8 This is in support that Jesus has power to lay down His life and take it again. His human side died. His divinity did not die.
copied from a book titled Ztingar... Ztingar has been instantly captivated by the sentence ‘In the beginning, the word already existed’. His eyes narrow as he concentrates deeply, trying hard to work out what this profound, insightful and intriguing quotation is actually saying. But after several moments of deliberating, the only explanation he can come up with is that a word (or words) appears to be the likely fundamental underlying representation of the meaning of God and of all existence. Some of the other words representing the Almighty that Ztingar has ever heard mentioned have included names such as Elohim, Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai and Allah. He wonders whether the phrase Nam-myoho-renge-kyo could be another representation of the same. Next to appear is a description of God, according to Paul the Apostle. . . Through everything that God has made, we can clearly see His invisible qualities, eternal power and divine nature. And we know that God causes everything to work together. Ztingar feels as though he’s just been struck by a massive thunderbolt. The amazingly strong similarity to Gang-Gang’s description of Life’s Mystic Law is glaringly obvious to him. He immediately interprets ‘invisible qualities’ as being equal to ‘mystic’-eternal power’ as the thread of Life Force or ‘kyo’-‘divine nature’ as the Law of Nature or ‘myoho’, and ‘causes everything to work together’ as the Law of Cause and Effect or ‘renge’. It’s an almost mirror-perfect description of Life’s Mystic Law and as far as Ztingar’s concerned the correlation is unmistakable. The words all change and he continues to read more. . . Although we presently see things imperfectly, as in a cloudy mirror, we’re capable of seeing everything with perfect clarity and knowing everything completely as God knows us. Corinthians 13:12 Again Ztingar is awestruck and sees this description as being almost identical to what Gang-Gang taught about one’s present state of limited knowledge in comparison to reaching one’s Enlightenment. It has also allowed Ztingar to clearly see that, just like Gang-Gang had explained to the animals, the true identity and meaning of Buddha and God is essentially the same. In fact, the only differences that he’s able to distinguish between the two are the many variations and interpretations that have been created by humankind and handed down throughout the ages. He thinks that some are so perverted from the real truth that they promote hatred and prejudice instead of compassion and love, as well as cause some people to be deceitful and make premature, cruel and often unjust judgements upon each other. Even worse than that, many of the interpretations motivate some people to kill and destroy one another. “How the hell can so many people be so goddamned narrow-minded ‘n’ dumb?” Ztingar asks himself, realising at the same time that he’s been equally as foolish for doing it as anyone else-probably even more so. He pauses for a moment to contemplate what he knows about the Holy Trinity--how the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost or Spirit is a combination of three different entities but is all the same one, God. From what he can recall, all three are in perfect harmony with each other, co-eternal, co-equal and co-powerful and should any one of them be removed, there would be no God. Out of curiosity, Ztingar had once surfed the Internet looking for a scientific explanation of the Holy Trinity, but was only ever able to find the usual spiritual interpretations. By comparing it now to the description of Life’s Mystic Law, he believes that he’s finally found an answer that makes a lot of scientific sense. He sees the Father as being a representation of the Law of Nature, the Son Jesus as representing the Law of Cause and Effect (mainly because Jesus taught that we reap what we sow) and the Holy Ghost or Spirit as the Law of Communication. Another similarity is that if any one of these three laws was removed, the others would no longer be able to exist.
Stephen prayed to Jesus: Acts 7:59: And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 60: And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
Stephen was in vision according to verse 55. When you and I pray we are not in a vision therefore we must pray to the Father like Jesus taught us. If God grants you a vision where you see Jesus and you speak to Jesus it is not a prayer. Pastor Skeete is correct.
See RUclips video, '3 in 1 by Jason Warf', for the way a fresh out of Walla Walla University Theology Dept. SDA pastor pray's. Then after Pastor Jason get's through praying to his three God's 'each individually' at the end of his video then scroll down to the comment section and read my comment for some of the reason's I disagree with Pastor Jason's theology, that is if my comment is still there. It has been removed a couple of times and then put back a couple of times.
The account of EG White in Desire of Ages says angels came down. The guards became like dead men, an angel rolled away the stone and called Jesus forth. This is the picture the Bible also sketches. God the Father did not raise Jesus, It was done by the command of the Father by sending Angels to call Jesus. So am I am calling/challenging brother Skeete on this one.
He is a dangerous preacher deceiving many by his many words. Many will be scattered from the truth by such men in these last days. Why is he not quoting John 10 in its full context? Deception at its best. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
When the Lord asked His disciples: "but whom do you say I am? (Mat.16:15), that is, who do you understand about who I am?, He was asking about His identity. " And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son (the visible Image, Col.1:15) of the living God (Jn. 1:18, 4:24)"(Mat.16:16). "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for (what you understand about my identity) flesh and blood (no human being or for the fact of being "intellectual") hath not revealed (the understanding that Christ is God comes by way of revelation) it unto thee, but by the Father (Eternal, Invisible Spirit) which is in Heaven (although God fills and covers all things and places, He came in the form and appearance of a man in His manifestation here on earth, but His Eternal, Invisible Spirit was not limited to His form as a man)"(Mat.16:17). "And I say also unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock (Supreme Truth, which we can only understand by revelation through His Holy Spirit: God is One, Christ Jesus the Lord is the Only True God, Jn. 5:20) I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Mat.16:18). Here the Lord states He was going to build His Church ( the church belongs to Him because He is the only one who paid the price for it) "upon this rock" But what did the Lord mean when He said "upon this rock"? Was He referring to the Apostle Peter? NO! (In Greek, "petros" means "a small rock"). But in this verse the word used in Greek is "Petra", which means a "large mass of rock." In the context of the Lord's question: "whom do say I am?", This rock is the understanding that "He is the Christ, the Son (the visible Image or visible Body) of the (Invisible) living God." He is the manifestation and visible revelation of God Himself (Isa.40:3-5,9)!
I started reading your explanation and checked on Col. 1 :15 on the image of God. Here is another explanation www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/hebrews1_3.html and then I checked John 1:18 and got another explanation www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/john1_18.html In connection of honouring the Father and honouring the Son I found this www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/john5_23.html. I do not want to critisize but this is in my search for the truth of Gods Word that I have to look at other explanations and because I want to know my Saviour
Being a walking Bible is just intellectual, not spiritual. This man must explain why he contradicts the Bible by preaching spiritualism that a person can be conscious in death and two that God did not raise His Son.
In the NAME of the father, son, and holy spirit. He said "NAME"! Not repeat what he said. We must find that name, and what name is above all names(Jesus).
@Heidi K. three beings and each being a separate GOD is three GODs and that is tritheism. If GOD is one being and the one being GOD has three separate and distinct personalities then that is monotheism but it also denys that GOD really has a Real Son and it denys that GOD really is a real Father and it denys that there really is a real mediator between us and GOD. The bible clearly states that there is 'ONE' 'GOD' and 'one' mediator between 'GOD' and men, the man Christ Jesus. Not three 'GODs' or 'ONE' 'GOD' and no mediator. The bible doesn't even say that there are two 'GODs'. There is 'ONE' ONLY TRUE 'GOD' and 'one' 'God' who sits at the right hand of His and our Father 'GOD' who will make all HIS Son's enemies HIS (GOD's) footstool. 'GOD' made Moses a 'god' to Pharaoh and Jesus repeated the old testament statement, 'Ye are 'gods' to those who didn't believe that He really was the literal Son of 'GOD' and Jesus also said, "The 'god' of this world comes but he has no part in me" (in reference to Satan who made himself a 'god' with the help of Adam and Eve who gave their rulership of the earth to him). So there is only 'ONE' only true 'GOD' the Father, a single divine being with a single personality who doesn't change and there is only 'one' only begotten Son of 'GOD' who 'GOD' procreated (torn from the bosom of the Father) as a single divine being with a single personality who His Father says is a 'God' but is not the 'GOD' and then there is Moses who 'GOD' made a 'god' and Adam and other humans that 'GOD' made 'gods' and then there is the 'god' of this age and the 'god' of this world that the first Adam, other sinful humans and fallen angels have made into a 'god' but Jesus, 'God' would not bow down to him 'god' in exchange even for the whole world and all the power there of. This is life eternal that they might know THEE, THE ONLY TRUE 'GOD' of the first commandment of the ten and the first commandment of the two new one's Jesus gave and the first angel's message of the three angel's messages, and Jesus Christ ('God') who was sent by the 'ONLY TRUE GOD'!!! Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord ('God') to the glory of 'GOD' the Father!!! The Father is 'greater' than I is not a coequal message and statement. The Catholic trinity and the SDA tritheism trinity both break 'GOD's' first commandment, Jesus's ('God's') first new commandment and the first angel's message and enthrones Satan upon 'GOD's' throne.
The trinity doctrine is a false pagan doctrine invented by Satan himself through which he claims worship that belongs to the Father and the Son ALONE. The Scripture tells us that, I quote, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:" (Deuteronomy 6:4) "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3) "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6) So, according to the Scriptures, the only true God is the Father and not a "three in one being"; if it were so, Paul would have said, but to us there is but one God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost, but it is not so! Jesus and Paul clearly and plainly spelt out who "the only true God" or "the one God" is; not three beings in one, but the Father. With regards to Jesus, we read: "... Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." (Matthew 16:16) "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God." (Luke 3:38) "And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God." (John 1:34) "And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God." (Mark 3:11) It is very sad that the unclean spirit knew that Jesus is the Son of God, yet we do not know. And with regards to the Holy Spirit the Scriptures tell us that the Holy Spirit is the 'Spirit of God' (Genesis 1:2; 41:38; Exodus 31:3; 35:31; Numbers 24:2; 1 Samuel 10:10; 19:20, 23; 2 Chronicles 24:20; Job 27:3; Ezekiel 11:24; Mat. 3:16; 12:28; etc.) or the 'Spirit of the Lord God' (Isaiah 21:1) and Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:19; 1 Peter 1:11), and not a separate divine being from the Father and the Son, as it never refers to as the 'Lord' or 'God' the Holy Spirit. Also, throughout the Scriptures we find only two divine beings: the Father and the Son. For example, in the book of Revelation we see ONLY two beings sitting on the throne, the Father and the Son, and not three. The Scriptures interpret themselves, we must not be deceived.
It can’t be just two, because the Bible says three bear record in Heaven, 1 John 5:7. The Bible also says baptize in the name of three Matt 28:19. If there is only two, how would a third party have Godly privileges? Why would Jesus say the Father will SEND ANOTHER comforter, HE will abide with you... I don’t think Jesus would speak in the third person.
I just wonder if you have read the Spirit of Prophecy (SOP). The Scriptures and the SOP throughout speaks of two divine beings, the Father and the Son and with regards to the Holy Spirit, the Scripture and the SOP tell us that it is the Spirit of God and of Christ. If you properly read and in context John 14 - 16 and SOP on this subject the you will find that the Comforter is none other than Jesus Christ Himself. Also 1 John 5:7 is a very much disputed text and Sister White never used it either. Whereas Matthew 28:19 doesn't tell who the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are; it doesn't tell us that these are three divine beings; it doesn't tell us that these three are the one God; it doesn't tells us these three are co-eternal and or co-equal; it doesn't tell us that the Holy Spirit is God. To know who the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are, we have to go elsewhere in the Scriptures. Jesus Christ told us what is vital for our salvation in John 17:3; that is, life eternal is to know the only true God and Jesus Christ. And apostle Paul had this to say, "But to us there is but one God, the Father..." (1 Corinthians 8:6). He didn't say, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, BUT the Father ALONE! We mustn't be confused
The Holy Spirit Divine- Acts 5:3,4; 1 Cor 6:19-20, 3:16 A person- John 16;13, 14:16-17 Distinct from God the Father & God the Son-Luke 3:21-22, 1:35; Matt 28:19 Third Person of the Godhead-1 John 5:7,8,6 SOP Third Person of the Godhead- {DA 67} A person- {Ev 616} Three Great Powers-8T, Rh May 5, 1903, RH June 22, 1905 We communicate through the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost {8T 194.1} Three Living Persons of the Heavenly Trio-BTS March 1, 1906
Sadly, NONE of the Scriptures and statements from the SOP tell us that the Holy Spirit IS a separate divine being from the Father and the Son. For example, Acts 5:3-4 tell us that by lying to the Holy Ghost is to lie to God Himself, and not to another phantom being, the so-called "god the holy spirit" which is none other than Satan himself. Obviously you didn't study this subject prayerfully; f you were, then you would see the truth as revealed in the Scriptures and the SOP. You mentioned Luke 3:21-22, but let's see what the SOP has to say about it, I quote, “Never before had angels listened to such a prayer as Christ offered at his baptism, and they were solicitous to be the bearers of the message from the Father to his Son. But, no! direct from the Father issues the light of his glory. The heavens were opened, and BEAMS OF GLORY RESTED UPON THE SON OF GOD AND ASSUMED THE FORM OF A DOVE, in appearance like burnished gold. The dove-like form was EMBLEMATICAL OF THE MEEKNESS AND GENTLENESS OF CHRIST. While the people stood spell-bound with amazement, their eyes fastened upon Christ, from the opening heavens came the words: “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” E. G. White, RH, Jan. 21, 1873 There are some more, for example: “Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His Father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall [although unseen by you] teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ... Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” {Lt119-1895.18} “Christ came to our world, but the world could not endure His purity. He has gone to His Father, but He has sent His Holy Spirit to represent Him in the world till he shall come again.” - (E.G. White, Ms1, Jan 11, 1897) “The Father and the Son Alone are to be exalted.” - (E.G. White, YI, July 7, 1898) “This refers to the omnipresence of the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, called the COMFORTER.” - (E.G. White, 14MR 179.2) “As by faith we look to Jesus, our faith pierces the shadow, and we adore God for His wondrous love in giving JESUS THE COMFORTER.” - (E.G. White, 19MR 297.3) “JESUS comes to you as the SPIRIT OF TRUTH;” - (E.G. White, 2MR 337.1) “We cannot be with CHRIST in person, as were His first disciples, but He has sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT to GUIDE US INTO ALL TRUTH, and through this power we too can bear witness for the Saviour. [John 16:13 quoted]” - (E.G. White, Ms30, June 18, 1900) “CHRIST has left HIS HOLY SPIRIT to be HIS REPRESENTATIVE in the world,” - (E.G. White, Lt84, October 22, 1895) “The Holy Spirit is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST; it is HIS REPRESENTATIVE.” - (E.G. White, 13MR 313.3, 1895) “He [Christ] breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: ... Before the disciples could fulfill their official duties in connection with the church, CHRIST breathed HIS SPIRIT upon them.” - (E.G. White, DA, p. 805) “CHRIST declared that the divine influence of HIS SPIRIT was to be with His followers UNTO THE END. From the DAY OF PENTECOST to the present time, the COMFORTER has been sent to all who have yielded themselves fully to the Lord and to His service.” - (E.G. White, AA, 49.2) “O, how we GRIEVE the pure, HOLY SPIRIT OF CHRIST with our defiling sins!” - (E.G. White, RH, July 5, 1898) Before the entrance of evil, there was peace and joy throughout the universe. All was in perfect harmony with the Creator’s will. Love for God was supreme, love for one another impartial. Christ the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,-one in nature, in character, and in purpose,-the only being in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. (Great Controversy, 493) If this is true, then, how is it that Christ was the ONLY BEING in all the universe that could enter into ALL THE COUNSELS and PURPOSES of God? Where was the ’god the holy spirit?’ After all, if he is ‘god’ being co-eternal and co-equal with the Father, how is it that he could not enter into all the counsels and purposes of God? Etc.... Now, how do we reconcile these? The question is, would you accept these statements from the SOP or would you reject them? If you reject them, then Sister White, according to you, wasn't inspired! Also, I don't accept the book Evangelism as it was compiled by LeRoy Froom whom I found to be Jesuit Catholic priest and the handful statements he used from the SOP he adulterated in such a way in order to prove the trinity doctrine.
What a mixed up preacher. He says: "To taste death, you have to be alive, because the dead know nothing." If Preacher Man really believed that, why would he say that Jesus raised himself from death? If Jesus really was dead, wouldn't he know nothing? The truth is that Jesus didn't raise himself from the dead. Instead, it was God who raised Jesus from the dead and then stationed him at his right hand. As Acts 2:32, 33 says: "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear."
Exactly. It is these type of preachers who are very dangerous today. Scattering the flock by giving this false doctrines. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
" The bible says over and over that the Father raised him.... but Jesus raised himself..... I said Jesus raised Himself... you see if the Father had raised...." Pastor Skeete then catches himself. It is evident that we lost the capacity for thinking for ourselves. how else can we sit and listen 14 minutes of pure error of a man contradicting the plainest account of scripture and see people nodding their heads saying amen and calling blatant errors bible truth.
The bible does not contradict itself. John15-17 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. {Stopping at verse 17 would to the trinitarian mind seem to support the error of Jesus raising himself from the dead and at the same time contradicting the plainest bible testimony on this subject, however if you read verse 18 it becomes clear} 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. { Jesus has all power and authority but by what right does he posses this?} Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself. Col. 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col. 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell. {The bible is not a disjointed, segmented book. Everything fits perfectly when you understand the identity of who God is.} Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. Acts 5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Questions to ponder 1.Who died on calvry? 2. Is Jesus Gods son? 3.Did God have a son to give? 4. Is it all roll play? 5. What is death? .Blessings to you.
Andrew McLeod I'm just trying to understand your message. Is it to the effect that Jesus came to earth as the Son of God and therefore he cannot have been God manifested in the flesh?
Thomas G The two are not mutually exclusive. Let's just take the Bible as it reads. John 1:14 tells us. Notice what it says.14 And the word was made flesh,and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory,the glory as of the only-begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth. Now try and dissect that passage of scripture for yourself with the aid of the Spirit of God. In fact read the whole chapter,very interesting read. Blessings.
Isaiah 66:23 affirms the 7th Day Sabbath and that we will remember to keep it holy for eternity. Ezekiel 43:1-6 neither affirm nor deny the 7th Day Sabbath
**The Sabbath was given to mankind at creation before there was Israelites or Jews. God set the example of how to keep His Sabbath day of rest Holy because He rested from His work on the 7th Day, blessed it and set it apart through sanctification. The 7th day Sabbath is True Holy time by God with a special blessing in it for growing a Love relationship between mankind and the Creator. Genesis 2:2-4King James Version (KJV) 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Mark 2:27King James Version (KJV) 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Ephesians 3:8-9King James Version (KJV) 8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Exodus 20:8-14King James Version (KJV) 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and *hallowed* it. (He made it Holy at creation, therefore it is HOLY TIME) Matthew 5:17-20King James Version (KJV) 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 12: 8 KJV For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day. ◄ Luke 24 ► KJV The Resurrection (Psalm 16:1-11; Psalm 49:1-20; Matthew 28:1-10; Mark 16:1-8; John 20:1-9) 1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. 2And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. 3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. 4And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: 5And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? 6He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, 7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. 8And they remembered his words,9And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. Jesus had risen from the grave on Sunday the 1st day of the week (many people today call the Day of His resurrection Easter Sunday), therefore, if you count from the first day of the week to the 7th day of the week you will reach the 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord also known as Saturday.
Here is another very good answer as-well!! "20 FACTS About the SABBATH Every Christian MUST KNOW !!!" on RUclips ruclips.net/video/2TyFD-3dUOQ/видео.html
Around the 8: 00 mark he says Jesus raised himself whilst I am sure randy knows all the s.d.a. pioneers believed in 1 GOD, 1 SON, 1 SPIRIT , many s.d.a. wrongly consider the trinitarian or godhead as biblical! If this trinitarian doctrine is true, explain 1st john 2 v 22, 23 Or 1st john 4 v 15 Clearly you cant! Psalms 2 v 7 begotten John 3 v 16 begotten The way spiritualizers have disposed of or denied the only lord GOD and our lord JESUS christ is first using the old un scriptural trinitarian creed, viz, that Jesus Christ is the eternal God, though they have not 1 passage to support it, while we have plain scripture, testimony in abundance that he is the son of the eternal God. James white, the day star, January 24th, 1846 The greatest fault we find in the reformation is, the reformers stopped reforming. Had they gone on and onward, till they had left the last vestige of papacy behind, such as natural immortality, sprinkling, THE TRINITY, and sunday keeping, the church would now be free from her un scriptual errors. James white, review and herald, Feb 7th, 1856 JESUS prayed that his disciples might be one, as he was one with his father. This prayer did not contemplate 1 disciple with 12 heads, but 12 disciples, made 1 in object and effort in the cause of their master. Neither are the father and the son parts of the three- one god, they are 2 distinct beings, yet 1 in the design and accomplishment of Redemption. The redeemed, from the 1st who shares in the great Redemption, to the last, all ascribe the honor, and glory, and praise of their salvation to both GOD and the lamb. J.s.white, life incidents, pg 343, 1868 Clearly Ellen's husband never believed in the trinity! In 1981, neal c Wilson (Randy's mate and Ted's dad,) .was also a g.c. president, and announced that the church had officially adopted THE TRINITY doctrine, he wrote " there is another universal and truly catholic organization, the seventh day Adventist church". Adventist review, march 5th, 1981, page 3 But the churches own logo reveals the jesuit infiltration had already started. 1 GOD, 1 SON, 1 SPIRIT
Pure blasphemy from this pastor. I respected him very much but sometimes talking too many words doesn't equate to truth. God raised His Son. Anything else is blasphemy. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
This is interesting.... if I understand Randy correctly, then he has a Jesus who did not “surely” die. His Jesus was conscious enough to raise himself when the time was right. Much better to just believe the Bible record that the Father raised his son. Manufacturing stories will not lead to truth. I challenge everyone to find this story taught either in the Bible or when Ellen White was still alive. Randy just gave us a good example of “the doctrines of men.” To be fair to Randy, I think that he believes in the “3-in-1” god, which the founders of the SDA Church did not, and in the doctrine of the “3-in-1” god, (or Trinity) Jesus cannot “surely” die. Learn your history, people. Adventists have changed gods since the death of the prophet and know it not.
The Supreme Name of God Our Father Is The LORD Jesus Christ!!! Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:9-11 KJV
He’s reading what somebody told him Jesus is the son of God and for some reason people want to make him God sadly Jesus will tell them that he never new them why because Jesus ain’t Jehovah
Amirstylo99 why is it funny? The things of God we can’t fully understand with our sinful minds. How does a man and a woman get married and become one? They don’t physically become one.
This sermon is a jumbled up mess of bolony....the trinity has ruined any truth that the Bible teaches. Jesus did not raise himself...the Bible says His FATHER raised him.
After they created the earth and the animals on it, the Father and Son carried out their intention, planned before the fall of Satan, to make human beings in their own image. They had worked together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God said to His Son, “Let us make man in our image.”
FATHER AND HIS SON ONLY 2
In Acts 2:32; 3:26; 4:10; 5:30; Rom. 10:9; Gal. 1:1; Col. 3:12 and Acts 13:15 onwards I read GOD raised Jesus from the dead !!!!
In John 10 verses 17 and 18 Jesus said He had power to lay down His life and power to take it up again. You need to learn how to read Scripture. You go to great lengths to show that God raised Jesus, and show Scripture that indicates it. According to your logic, Jesus was a liar because you do not take into account what Jesus said in John 10. We must look for an explanation that harmonizes all that inspiration says on the subject.
Did King David ever sin -- break God's commandments? He committed adultery with Uriah's wife. Yet in 1 Kings 14 verse 8, God said that David "kept my commandments, and followed me with all his heart, to do that only which was right in mine eyes." Can you explain what God said in such a way that you don't make God out to be a liar? Work on that and then take another look at your argument that it was GOD (which you obviously understand to be God the Father) who raised up Jesus.
If God the Father raised Jesus up from the dead as you insist, then Jesus lied in saying He not only laid His life down but took it up again. That, of course, is absurd because Jesus never lied. Ellen White cleared up the APPARENT contradiction by saying that God the Father sent an angel to the tomb to say, "Jesus, come forth, Thy Father calleth Thee!" Jesus waited in the tomb until He heard that proclamation, and then He raised Himself. Of course we should recall that Jesus was fully God and fully man. That is the mystery of the incarnation. His human nature died, but not His divinity.
Can you explain why God said that David always kept His commandments and always did what was right in His eyes? Again, Mrs. White explains it. She said that it was only during those days when David WAS obedient that God's statement about David was true. You may not believe in the inspiration of Ellen White, but I believe her ministry was the greatest gift that God could have given to His last day church.
@@Dr.Pepper001 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
Why are we so hypocritical by not reading the Bible in its full context? Cherry picking verses isn't good for the gospel.
@@Dr.Pepper001 If Jesus raised himself, then He wasn't dead because we know the dead know nothing. The power to take up His life again is not meaning He raised himself. It means that when the Father raised Him, He had the power of choice to accept that life again or not.
I thought that when SdAs teach about the state of the dead, they are asleep till woken up.
Is there a scripture that states that part of Jesus remained alive?
@@murrayhamilton2658 -- Jesus had two natures. He was fully God and fully man. Read the first few verses of John chapter 1. The human part of Jesus died on the cross. His divine nature did not die because God can't die. When the angel came from heaven and said that the Father called Him, the divine nature resurrected the human nature.
Amen
When I feel oppressed, and hardly know how to relate myself toward the work that God has given me to do, I just call upon the three great Worthies, and say; You know I cannot do this work in my own strength. You must work in me, and by me and through me, sanctifying my tongue, sanctifying my spirit, sanctifying my words, and bringing me into a position where my spirit shall be susceptible to the movings of the Holy Spirit of God upon my mind and character. {7MR 267.2}
So what are we to do with the more than three dozen Scripture references that say God raised Jesus from the dead. Also, if that means that Jesus needed “help” in saving us, what are we to make of Jesus’ own words that He can of his own self do nothing and that it was the Father that dwells in Him doing the works?
Understand from the perspective of Christ being human and being an EXAMPLE to us so that we know to look to God...Christ humbled Himself to be like us to look to God.....that didnt make Him less of being God
John 10:17-18 KJV 17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
When Christ was crucified, it was His human nature that died. Deity did not sink and die; that would have been impossible. Christ, the sinless One, will save every son and daughter of Adam who accepts the salvation proffered them, consenting to become the children of God. The Saviour has purchased the fallen race with His own blood. 19LtMs, Lt 280a, 1904, par. 8
This is in support that Jesus has power to lay down His life and take it again. His human side died. His divinity did not die.
full sermon?
copied from a book titled Ztingar...
Ztingar has been instantly captivated by the sentence ‘In the beginning, the word already existed’. His eyes narrow as he concentrates deeply, trying hard to work out what this profound, insightful and intriguing quotation is actually saying. But after several moments of deliberating, the only explanation he can come up with is that a word (or words) appears to be the likely fundamental underlying representation of the meaning of God and of all existence. Some of the other words representing the Almighty that Ztingar has ever heard mentioned have included names such as Elohim, Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai and Allah. He wonders whether the phrase Nam-myoho-renge-kyo could be another representation of the same.
Next to appear is a description of God, according to Paul the Apostle. . .
Through everything that God has made, we can clearly see His invisible qualities, eternal power and divine nature. And we know that God causes everything to work together.
Ztingar feels as though he’s just been struck by a massive thunderbolt. The amazingly strong similarity to Gang-Gang’s description of Life’s Mystic Law is glaringly obvious to him. He immediately interprets ‘invisible qualities’ as being equal to ‘mystic’-eternal power’ as the thread of Life Force or ‘kyo’-‘divine nature’ as the Law of Nature or ‘myoho’, and ‘causes everything to work together’ as the Law of Cause and Effect or ‘renge’. It’s an almost mirror-perfect description of Life’s Mystic Law and as far as Ztingar’s concerned the correlation is unmistakable.
The words all change and he continues to read more. . .
Although we presently see things imperfectly, as in a cloudy mirror, we’re capable of seeing everything with perfect clarity and knowing everything completely as God knows us. Corinthians 13:12
Again Ztingar is awestruck and sees this description as being almost identical to what Gang-Gang taught about one’s present state of limited knowledge in comparison to reaching one’s Enlightenment. It has also allowed Ztingar to clearly see that, just like Gang-Gang had explained to the animals, the true identity and meaning of Buddha and God is essentially the same. In fact, the only differences that he’s able to distinguish between the two are the many variations and interpretations that have been created by humankind and handed down throughout the ages. He thinks that some are so perverted from the real truth that they promote hatred and prejudice instead of compassion and love, as well as cause some people to be deceitful and make premature, cruel and often unjust judgements upon each other. Even worse than that, many of the interpretations motivate some people to kill and destroy one another. “How the hell can so many people be so goddamned narrow-minded ‘n’ dumb?” Ztingar asks himself, realising at the same time that he’s been equally as foolish for doing it as anyone else-probably even more so.
He pauses for a moment to contemplate what he knows about the Holy Trinity--how the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost or Spirit is a combination of three different entities but
is all the same one, God. From what he can recall, all three are in perfect harmony with each other, co-eternal, co-equal and co-powerful and should any one of them be removed, there would be no God.
Out of curiosity, Ztingar had once surfed the Internet looking for a scientific explanation of the Holy Trinity, but was only ever able to find the usual spiritual interpretations. By comparing it now to the description of Life’s Mystic Law, he believes that he’s finally found an answer that makes a lot of scientific sense. He sees the Father as being a representation of the Law of Nature, the Son Jesus as representing the Law of Cause and Effect (mainly because Jesus taught that we reap what we sow) and the Holy Ghost or Spirit as the Law of Communication. Another similarity is that if any one of these three laws was removed, the others would no longer be able to exist.
Stephen prayed to Jesus: Acts 7:59: And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 60: And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
Stephen was in vision according to verse 55. When you and I pray we are not in a vision therefore we must pray to the Father like Jesus taught us. If God grants you a vision where you see Jesus and you speak to Jesus it is not a prayer. Pastor Skeete is correct.
See RUclips video, '3 in 1 by Jason Warf', for the way a fresh out of Walla Walla University Theology Dept. SDA pastor pray's. Then after Pastor Jason get's through praying to his three God's 'each individually' at the end of his video then scroll down to the comment section and read my comment for some of the reason's I disagree with Pastor Jason's theology, that is if my comment is still there. It has been removed a couple of times and then put back a couple of times.
The account of EG White in Desire of Ages says angels came down. The guards became like dead men, an angel rolled away the stone and called Jesus forth. This is the picture the Bible also sketches. God the Father did not raise Jesus, It was done by the command of the Father by sending Angels to call Jesus. So am I am calling/challenging brother Skeete on this one.
He is a dangerous preacher deceiving many by his many words. Many will be scattered from the truth by such men in these last days. Why is he not quoting John 10 in its full context? Deception at its best.
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
how do I watch the rest
Look for Randy Skeete "A Family Affair" video
Here's the link ruclips.net/video/ItzjFKPA7w0/видео.html
Randy Skeete “A Family Affair”
When the Lord asked His disciples: "but whom do you say I am? (Mat.16:15), that is, who do you understand about who I am?, He was asking about His identity. " And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son (the visible Image, Col.1:15) of the living God (Jn. 1:18, 4:24)"(Mat.16:16).
"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for (what you understand about my identity) flesh and blood (no human being or for the fact of being "intellectual") hath not revealed (the understanding that Christ is God comes by way of revelation) it unto thee, but by the Father (Eternal, Invisible Spirit) which is in Heaven (although God fills and covers all things and places, He came in the form and appearance of a man in His manifestation here on earth, but His Eternal, Invisible Spirit was not limited to His form as a man)"(Mat.16:17).
"And I say also unto thee, Thou art Peter, and upon this rock (Supreme Truth, which we can only understand by revelation through His Holy Spirit: God is One, Christ Jesus the Lord is the Only True God, Jn. 5:20) I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Mat.16:18). Here the Lord states He was going to build His Church ( the church belongs to Him because He is the only one who paid the price for it) "upon this rock" But what did the Lord mean when He said "upon this rock"? Was He referring to the Apostle Peter? NO! (In Greek, "petros" means "a small rock"). But in this verse the word used in Greek is "Petra", which means a "large mass of rock." In the context of the Lord's question: "whom do say I am?", This rock is the understanding that "He is the Christ, the Son (the visible Image or visible Body) of the (Invisible) living God." He is the manifestation and visible revelation of God Himself (Isa.40:3-5,9)!
I started reading your explanation and checked on Col. 1 :15 on the image of God. Here is another explanation www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/hebrews1_3.html and then I checked John 1:18 and got another explanation www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/john1_18.html In connection of honouring the Father and honouring the Son I found this www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/john5_23.html. I do not want to critisize but this is in my search for the truth of Gods Word that I have to look at other explanations and because I want to know my Saviour
Being a walking Bible is just intellectual, not spiritual. This man must explain why he contradicts the Bible by preaching spiritualism that a person can be conscious in death and two that God did not raise His Son.
More information on the Godhead ruclips.net/video/6-Lg-g-0i1E/видео.html
In the NAME of the father, son, and holy spirit. He said "NAME"! Not repeat what he said. We must find that name, and what name is above all names(Jesus).
@Heidi K. three beings and each being a separate GOD is three GODs and that is tritheism. If GOD is one being and the one being GOD has three separate and distinct personalities then that is monotheism but it also denys that GOD really has a Real Son and it denys that GOD really is a real Father and it denys that there really is a real mediator between us and GOD. The bible clearly states that there is 'ONE' 'GOD' and 'one' mediator between 'GOD' and men, the man Christ Jesus. Not three 'GODs' or 'ONE' 'GOD' and no mediator. The bible doesn't even say that there are two 'GODs'. There is 'ONE' ONLY TRUE 'GOD' and 'one' 'God' who sits at the right hand of His and our Father 'GOD' who will make all HIS Son's enemies HIS (GOD's) footstool. 'GOD' made Moses a 'god' to Pharaoh and Jesus repeated the old testament statement, 'Ye are 'gods' to those who didn't believe that He really was the literal Son of 'GOD' and Jesus also said, "The 'god' of this world comes but he has no part in me" (in reference to Satan who made himself a 'god' with the help of Adam and Eve who gave their rulership of the earth to him). So there is only 'ONE' only true 'GOD' the Father, a single divine being with a single personality who doesn't change and there is only 'one' only begotten Son of 'GOD' who 'GOD' procreated (torn from the bosom of the Father) as a single divine being with a single personality who His Father says is a 'God' but is not the 'GOD' and then there is Moses who 'GOD' made a 'god' and Adam and other humans that 'GOD' made 'gods' and then there is the 'god' of this age and the 'god' of this world that the first Adam, other sinful humans and fallen angels have made into a 'god' but Jesus, 'God' would not bow down to him 'god' in exchange even for the whole world and all the power there of. This is life eternal that they might know THEE, THE ONLY TRUE 'GOD' of the first commandment of the ten and the first commandment of the two new one's Jesus gave and the first angel's message of the three angel's messages, and Jesus Christ ('God') who was sent by the 'ONLY TRUE GOD'!!! Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord ('God') to the glory of 'GOD' the Father!!! The Father is 'greater' than I is not a coequal message and statement. The Catholic trinity and the SDA tritheism trinity both break 'GOD's' first commandment, Jesus's ('God's') first new commandment and the first angel's message and enthrones Satan upon 'GOD's' throne.
The trinity doctrine is a false pagan doctrine invented by Satan himself through which he claims worship that belongs to the Father and the Son ALONE.
The Scripture tells us that, I quote,
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:" (Deuteronomy 6:4)
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)
"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Corinthians 8:6)
So, according to the Scriptures, the only true God is the Father and not a "three in one being"; if it were so, Paul would have said, but to us there is but one God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost, but it is not so! Jesus and Paul clearly and plainly spelt out who "the only true God" or "the one God" is; not three beings in one, but the Father.
With regards to Jesus, we read:
"... Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." (Matthew 16:16)
"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God." (Luke 3:38)
"And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God." (John 1:34)
"And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God." (Mark 3:11)
It is very sad that the unclean spirit knew that Jesus is the Son of God, yet we do not know.
And with regards to the Holy Spirit the Scriptures tell us that the Holy Spirit is the 'Spirit of God' (Genesis 1:2; 41:38; Exodus 31:3; 35:31; Numbers 24:2; 1 Samuel 10:10; 19:20, 23; 2 Chronicles 24:20; Job 27:3; Ezekiel 11:24; Mat. 3:16; 12:28; etc.) or the 'Spirit of the Lord God' (Isaiah 21:1) and Spirit of Jesus Christ (Philippians 1:19; 1 Peter 1:11), and not a separate divine being from the Father and the Son, as it never refers to as the 'Lord' or 'God' the Holy Spirit.
Also, throughout the Scriptures we find only two divine beings: the Father and the Son. For example, in the book of Revelation we see ONLY two beings sitting on the throne, the Father and the Son, and not three.
The Scriptures interpret themselves, we must not be deceived.
Rudolf Berki the word Trinity simply means three. The trinity doctrine is another thing. The pastor is not promoting the trinity doctrine.
It can’t be just two, because the Bible says three bear record in Heaven, 1 John 5:7. The Bible also says baptize in the name of three Matt 28:19. If there is only two, how would a third party have Godly privileges? Why would Jesus say the Father will SEND ANOTHER comforter, HE will abide with you... I don’t think Jesus would speak in the third person.
I just wonder if you have read the Spirit of Prophecy (SOP). The Scriptures and the SOP throughout speaks of two divine beings, the Father and the Son and with regards to the Holy Spirit, the Scripture and the SOP tell us that it is the Spirit of God and of Christ. If you properly read and in context John 14 - 16 and SOP on this subject the you will find that the Comforter is none other than Jesus Christ Himself.
Also 1 John 5:7 is a very much disputed text and Sister White never used it either. Whereas Matthew 28:19 doesn't tell who the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are; it doesn't tell us that these are three divine beings; it doesn't tell us that these three are the one God; it doesn't tells us these three are co-eternal and or co-equal; it doesn't tell us that the Holy Spirit is God. To know who the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are, we have to go elsewhere in the Scriptures.
Jesus Christ told us what is vital for our salvation in John 17:3; that is, life eternal is to know the only true God and Jesus Christ.
And apostle Paul had this to say, "But to us there is but one God, the Father..." (1 Corinthians 8:6). He didn't say, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, BUT the Father ALONE!
We mustn't be confused
The Holy Spirit
Divine- Acts 5:3,4; 1 Cor 6:19-20, 3:16
A person- John 16;13, 14:16-17
Distinct from God the Father & God the Son-Luke 3:21-22, 1:35; Matt 28:19
Third Person of the Godhead-1 John 5:7,8,6
SOP
Third Person of the Godhead- {DA 67}
A person- {Ev 616}
Three Great Powers-8T, Rh May 5, 1903, RH June 22, 1905
We communicate through the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost {8T 194.1}
Three Living Persons of the Heavenly Trio-BTS March 1, 1906
Sadly, NONE of the Scriptures and statements from the SOP tell us that the Holy Spirit IS a separate divine being from the Father and the Son.
For example, Acts 5:3-4 tell us that by lying to the Holy Ghost is to lie to God Himself, and not to another phantom being, the so-called "god the holy spirit" which is none other than Satan himself. Obviously you didn't study this subject prayerfully; f you were, then you would see the truth as revealed in the Scriptures and the SOP.
You mentioned Luke 3:21-22, but let's see what the SOP has to say about it, I quote,
“Never before had angels listened to such a prayer as Christ offered at his baptism, and they were solicitous to be the bearers of the message from the Father to his Son. But, no! direct from the Father issues the light of his glory. The heavens were opened, and BEAMS OF GLORY RESTED UPON THE SON OF GOD AND ASSUMED THE FORM OF A DOVE, in appearance like burnished gold. The dove-like form was EMBLEMATICAL OF THE MEEKNESS AND GENTLENESS OF CHRIST. While the people stood spell-bound with amazement, their eyes fastened upon Christ, from the opening heavens came the words: “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” E. G. White, RH, Jan. 21, 1873
There are some more, for example:
“Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His Father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself, divested of the personality of humanity, and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall [although unseen by you] teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ... Nevertheless, I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” {Lt119-1895.18}
“Christ came to our world, but the world could not endure His purity. He has gone to His Father, but He has sent His Holy Spirit to represent Him in the world till he shall come again.” - (E.G. White, Ms1, Jan 11, 1897)
“The Father and the Son Alone are to be exalted.” - (E.G. White, YI, July 7, 1898)
“This refers to the omnipresence of the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, called the COMFORTER.” - (E.G. White, 14MR 179.2)
“As by faith we look to Jesus, our faith pierces the shadow, and we adore God for His wondrous love in giving JESUS THE COMFORTER.” - (E.G. White, 19MR 297.3)
“JESUS comes to you as the SPIRIT OF TRUTH;” - (E.G. White, 2MR 337.1)
“We cannot be with CHRIST in person, as were His first disciples, but He has sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT to GUIDE US INTO ALL TRUTH, and through this power we too can bear witness for the Saviour. [John 16:13 quoted]” - (E.G. White, Ms30, June 18, 1900)
“CHRIST has left HIS HOLY SPIRIT to be HIS REPRESENTATIVE in the world,” - (E.G. White, Lt84, October 22, 1895)
“The Holy Spirit is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST; it is HIS REPRESENTATIVE.” - (E.G. White, 13MR 313.3, 1895)
“He [Christ] breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: ... Before the disciples could fulfill their official duties in connection with the church, CHRIST breathed HIS SPIRIT upon them.” - (E.G. White, DA, p. 805)
“CHRIST declared that the divine influence of HIS SPIRIT was to be with His followers UNTO THE END. From the DAY OF PENTECOST to the present time, the COMFORTER has been sent to all who have yielded themselves fully to the Lord and to His service.” - (E.G. White, AA, 49.2)
“O, how we GRIEVE the pure, HOLY SPIRIT OF CHRIST with our defiling sins!” - (E.G. White, RH, July 5, 1898)
Before the entrance of evil, there was peace and joy throughout the universe. All was in perfect harmony with the Creator’s will. Love for God was supreme, love for one another impartial. Christ the Word, the only begotten of God, was one with the eternal Father,-one in nature, in character, and in purpose,-the only being in all the universe that could enter into all the counsels and purposes of God. (Great Controversy, 493)
If this is true, then, how is it that Christ was the ONLY BEING in all the universe that could enter into ALL THE COUNSELS and PURPOSES of God? Where was the ’god the holy spirit?’ After all, if he is ‘god’ being co-eternal and co-equal with the Father, how is it that he could not enter into all the counsels and purposes of God?
Etc....
Now, how do we reconcile these?
The question is, would you accept these statements from the SOP or would you reject them? If you reject them, then Sister White, according to you, wasn't inspired!
Also, I don't accept the book Evangelism as it was compiled by LeRoy Froom whom I found to be Jesuit Catholic priest and the handful statements he used from the SOP he adulterated in such a way in order to prove the trinity doctrine.
Apostasy culminating in ultimate spiritualism. Truly the doctrine of the trinity destroys the personality of God and of His Son Jesus Christ
What a mixed up preacher. He says: "To taste death, you have to be alive, because the dead know nothing." If Preacher Man really believed that, why would he say that Jesus raised himself from death? If Jesus really was dead, wouldn't he know nothing? The truth is that Jesus didn't raise himself from the dead. Instead, it was God who raised Jesus from the dead and then stationed him at his right hand. As Acts 2:32, 33 says: "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear."
Exactly. It is these type of preachers who are very dangerous today. Scattering the flock by giving this false doctrines.
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
@@newrez2391 This preacher is not the only one spreading lies on RUclips videos. They are all liars.
" The bible says over and over that the Father raised him.... but Jesus raised himself..... I said Jesus raised Himself... you see if the Father had raised...." Pastor Skeete then catches himself. It is evident that we lost the capacity for thinking for ourselves. how else can we sit and listen 14 minutes of pure error of a man contradicting the plainest account of scripture and see people nodding their heads saying amen and calling blatant errors bible truth.
Andrew McLeod John 10:15 - 17
The bible does not contradict itself.
John15-17
15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.16 And
other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
{Stopping at verse 17 would to the trinitarian mind seem to support the error of Jesus raising himself from the dead and at the same time contradicting the plainest bible testimony on this subject, however if you read verse 18 it becomes clear}
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
{ Jesus has all power and authority but by what right does he posses this?}
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself. Col. 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col. 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.
{The bible is not a disjointed, segmented book. Everything fits perfectly when you understand the identity of who God is.}
Acts 4:10
Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Acts 5:30
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Hebrews 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Questions to ponder 1.Who died on calvry? 2. Is Jesus Gods son? 3.Did God have a son to give? 4. Is it all roll play? 5. What is death? .Blessings to you.
Andrew you are so right. I used to think these were such great preachers until I started reading the Bible for myself.
Andrew McLeod I'm just trying to understand your message. Is it to the effect that Jesus came to earth as the Son of God and therefore he cannot have been God manifested in the flesh?
Thomas G The two are not mutually exclusive. Let's just take the Bible as it reads. John 1:14 tells us. Notice what it says.14 And the word was made flesh,and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory,the glory as of the only-begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth. Now try and dissect that passage of scripture for yourself with the aid of the Spirit of God. In fact read the whole chapter,very interesting read. Blessings.
pastor.. saturday is not 7th day sabbath day... pls, read isaiah 66:23 and ezekiel 43:1-6
Isaiah 66:23 affirms the 7th Day Sabbath and that we will remember to keep it holy for eternity. Ezekiel 43:1-6 neither affirm nor deny the 7th Day Sabbath
**The Sabbath was given to mankind at creation before there was Israelites or Jews. God set the example of how to keep His Sabbath day of rest Holy because He rested from His work on the 7th Day, blessed it and set it apart through sanctification. The 7th day Sabbath is True Holy time by God with a special blessing in it for growing a Love relationship between mankind and the Creator.
Genesis 2:2-4King James Version (KJV)
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Mark 2:27King James Version (KJV)
27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Ephesians 3:8-9King James Version (KJV)
8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Exodus 20:8-14King James Version (KJV)
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and *hallowed* it. (He made it Holy at creation, therefore it is HOLY TIME)
Matthew 5:17-20King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 12: 8 KJV
For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
◄ Luke 24 ► KJV
The Resurrection
(Psalm 16:1-11; Psalm 49:1-20; Matthew 28:1-10; Mark 16:1-8; John 20:1-9)
1Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. 2And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. 3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. 4And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: 5And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? 6He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, 7Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. 8And they remembered his words,9And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest.
Jesus had risen from the grave on Sunday the 1st day of the week (many people today call the Day of His resurrection Easter Sunday), therefore, if you count from the first day of the week to the 7th day of the week you will reach the 7th Day Sabbath of the Lord also known as Saturday.
Here is another very good answer as-well!!
"20 FACTS About the SABBATH Every Christian MUST KNOW !!!" on RUclips
ruclips.net/video/2TyFD-3dUOQ/видео.html
Around the 8: 00 mark he says Jesus raised himself whilst I am sure randy knows all the s.d.a. pioneers believed in 1 GOD, 1 SON, 1 SPIRIT , many s.d.a. wrongly consider the trinitarian or godhead as biblical!
If this trinitarian doctrine is true, explain 1st john 2 v 22, 23
Or 1st john 4 v 15
Clearly you cant!
Psalms 2 v 7 begotten
John 3 v 16 begotten
The way spiritualizers have disposed of or denied the only lord GOD and our lord JESUS christ is first using the old un scriptural trinitarian creed, viz, that Jesus Christ is the eternal God, though they have not 1 passage to support it, while we have plain scripture, testimony in abundance that he is the son of the eternal God.
James white, the day star, January 24th, 1846
The greatest fault we find in the reformation is, the reformers stopped reforming. Had they gone on and onward, till they had left the last vestige of papacy behind, such as natural immortality, sprinkling, THE TRINITY, and sunday keeping, the church would now be free from her un scriptual errors.
James white, review and herald, Feb 7th, 1856
JESUS prayed that his disciples might be one, as he was one with his father. This prayer did not contemplate 1 disciple with 12 heads, but 12 disciples, made 1 in object and effort in the cause of their master.
Neither are the father and the son parts of the three- one god, they are 2 distinct beings, yet 1 in the design and accomplishment of Redemption.
The redeemed, from the 1st who shares in the great Redemption, to the last, all ascribe the honor, and glory, and praise of their salvation to both GOD and the lamb.
J.s.white, life incidents, pg 343, 1868
Clearly Ellen's husband never believed in the trinity!
In 1981, neal c Wilson (Randy's mate and Ted's dad,) .was also a g.c. president, and announced that the church had officially adopted THE TRINITY doctrine, he wrote
" there is another universal and truly catholic organization, the seventh day Adventist church".
Adventist review, march 5th, 1981, page 3
But the churches own logo reveals the jesuit infiltration had already started.
1 GOD, 1 SON, 1 SPIRIT
Pure blasphemy from this pastor. I respected him very much but sometimes talking too many words doesn't equate to truth. God raised His Son. Anything else is blasphemy.
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. John:10:17-18
Say what ever u want say
This is interesting.... if I understand Randy correctly, then he has a Jesus who did not “surely” die. His Jesus was conscious enough to raise himself when the time was right. Much better to just believe the Bible record that the Father raised his son. Manufacturing stories will not lead to truth. I challenge everyone to find this story taught either in the Bible or when Ellen White was still alive. Randy just gave us a good example of “the doctrines of men.” To be fair to Randy, I think that he believes in the “3-in-1” god, which the founders of the SDA Church did not, and in the doctrine of the “3-in-1” god, (or Trinity) Jesus cannot “surely” die. Learn your history, people. Adventists have changed gods since the death of the prophet and know it not.
No
Not what he says at all
U want to say
Legalistic
sorry ezekiel 46:1-6
The Supreme Name of God Our Father Is The LORD Jesus Christ!!!
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Philippians 2:9-11 KJV
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This text doesn't say Jesus Christ is God the Father. What version of the bible do you have?
He’s reading what somebody told him Jesus is the son of God and for some reason people want to make him God sadly Jesus will tell them that he never new them why because Jesus ain’t Jehovah
3 people 1 god? Funny
Amirstylo99 why is it funny? The things of God we can’t fully understand with our sinful minds. How does a man and a woman get married and become one? They don’t physically become one.
Jesus leader is not a god
God is one, Nothing that creates it. God created not created. Jesus is a human being like me and you, But he is a special messenger of Allah
Good point man was made in the image of God, only two and their spirit
This sermon is a jumbled up mess of bolony....the trinity has ruined any truth that the Bible teaches. Jesus did not raise himself...the Bible says His FATHER raised him.