I have a 2015 f22 220d M Sport which I've owned for 7 years. I love the car, the looks, the performance and driving experience and it averages 47mpg. Your video reassures me that BMW know that this car is quite special and are to continue to produce it albeit updated, as I am thinking of buying one again. Good very informative video.
Couldn't agree more and I would love to make a video like that but the GR86 is sadly not coming to Romania so I can't get hold of one. It is one of the cars I really want to drive, but I'm not sure how to make that happen right now.
Crazy price differences compared to Portugal. We pay taxes because of emissions. Base 218i (yes, no 220i and I bet because of this issue) costs 44k. 220d is 50k. M240i is 68k. You’d think that we’d live better here than in Romania. Sorry for venting. Nice review!
Well, maybe you should come to Romania, see for yourself which country lives better :) We are taxed for displacement here and the car’s Euro emissions standard. This is factored into the yearly taxes you have to pay for car ownership. Insurance is higher on higher displacement vehicles here. Thank you for watching!
Congrats, it's a great choice - what engine did you go for? I too like blue a lot for the new 2, but Thundernight purple is pretty cool for it too. Not sure which I would choose if I ordered one of these :D
It seems the brakes are a real problem. I have heard about this issue on other videos too. Is this a deal breaker? Is it safer to get the M440d instead? I haven’t heard of any brake problems on that model. ThNk you
I haven't driven that model, so I can't compare, but usually BMW unless they are true M models, won't have amazing brakes. I remember not finding the brakes great in an M340i and they gave me a very similar feeling to this 220d. I don't think they are a deal breaker for any of these cars, though, especially since if you upgrade the pads and brake fluid you will observe an improvement.
It's been a few years since I last drove an F20 with the M pack, but I would say this is similarly stiff. Adaptive dampers are a must if you have bigger wheels, as they make the car far more compliant when it's set in Comfort mode. And as much as I like the wheels on this G42, I'd go for smaller ones if it was my own car.
Man 50k Euros for a 2l Diesel. I want to like this car and it is good, but it is so damn expensive with the M-Kit added. And you can not get the M-Diff LSD like on the 230i as an option. I would try to go for a M240i if possible. It is "only" 5000-6000 Euros more over this with comparable spec. And you get the beautiful B58, AWD, LSD and probably same or less deprecation. If this 5000k are too much maybe think about a last gen M240i F22. And if you want to save money get a Ford Diesel.
Very well put. I think on balance the 230i with the diff is realistically the best compromise. I haven't driven the current M240i, but if it's anything like the old one, it's a bit of a handful on the limit. If I bought a new 2 Series today, it would be the 230i... or if a briefcase full of money fell into my hands randomly on the street, then I'd wait for the new M2.
The M-sport package is a waste in anything lower than the 230i, and even in the 230i is not really that useful. In my opinion it doesn't even make the car look good but that's subjective, i prefer the base look, especially in purple. I think m-sport additions are one of the most overrated things in modern BMWs. They typically add thinner low profile tires which make ride comfort far worse, are worse in slippery conditions, increase energy costs and lower acceleration, they are also worse in the fun department since they make the car harder to slide under normal public road speeds (which is the most fun thing people can do in these, no one is racing at 200km/h on public roads...). Thinner tires also get damaged easier and are more expensive. Add to that the sport suspension which makes the car have lower ground clearence and have harsher ride comfort still.... It also adds dynamic steering ratios which is basically worthless at public road speeds... Honestly, you are paying for the car to get worse for daily driving. And if you don't even have an engine that can really race, what is the point of making the car more track-worthy? I really don't understand why BMW uses review cars with msport even in 7second+ 0-100 economy cars like this.... Anyone who buys a 218i, 220i, or 220d and speccs for m sport is clueless about cars. It is far better to keep it at stock wheels, looks and suspension and just spend the money on upgrading to a 230i and/or the LSD (which you can get without the rest of the msport additions). It will be sportier where it matters and will have more comfort and less running costs.
Yeah, I have to agree with you. Instead of spending on the M Sport pack on a 220, you could spend that money on a better engine or some other options. I actually prefer the look of the M Pack G42 to the one without it, but, as you say, this is subjective (I really liked the look of my tester with its wheels and color combo). For many BMW buyers (who are not enthusiasts or keen drivers), owning a BMW is more of a status symbol, and having one with M bits makes them feel better about themselves. They think people perceive them as cooler or something. You will see a lot of base 218s with the M pack but hardly any other options if you do a quick search on mobile :)
Ask me anything about the new 2 Series!
could you slide it? can you hold a drift on a rainy day?
I have a 2015 f22 220d M Sport which I've owned for 7 years. I love the car, the looks, the performance and driving experience and it averages 47mpg. Your video reassures me that BMW know that this car is quite special and are to continue to produce it albeit updated, as I am thinking of buying one again. Good very informative video.
Thanks for watching!
I owned a 2016 340i for 6 years and juts traded it in for a 2022 m240i w/ 13,000 miles on it. Loving the car so far
There needs to be a gr86 vs 230i or 220i video. I am surprised nobody has made this considering tons of people will cross shop these platforms.
Couldn't agree more and I would love to make a video like that but the GR86 is sadly not coming to Romania so I can't get hold of one. It is one of the cars I really want to drive, but I'm not sure how to make that happen right now.
I have the F22 220d which is remapped to 230hp. It doesn’t have the beatiful note of a petrol engine but it’s very fun to drive!
I have an E90 320d myself, currently stock, and even I can say that :D
Crazy price differences compared to Portugal. We pay taxes because of emissions. Base 218i (yes, no 220i and I bet because of this issue) costs 44k. 220d is 50k. M240i is 68k. You’d think that we’d live better here than in Romania. Sorry for venting. Nice review!
Well, maybe you should come to Romania, see for yourself which country lives better :)
We are taxed for displacement here and the car’s Euro emissions standard. This is factored into the yearly taxes you have to pay for car ownership. Insurance is higher on higher displacement vehicles here.
Thank you for watching!
I love it! Ordered mine in blue a few weeks ago. 😍 I think blue is the best colour for the car. What do you think?
Congrats, it's a great choice - what engine did you go for?
I too like blue a lot for the new 2, but Thundernight purple is pretty cool for it too. Not sure which I would choose if I ordered one of these :D
@@OneTireFire I went for the 220i :)
@@maxmustermann318 Smart choice :)
It seems the brakes are a real problem. I have heard about this issue on other videos too. Is this a deal breaker? Is it safer to get the M440d instead? I haven’t heard of any brake problems on that model. ThNk you
I haven't driven that model, so I can't compare, but usually BMW unless they are true M models, won't have amazing brakes. I remember not finding the brakes great in an M340i and they gave me a very similar feeling to this 220d.
I don't think they are a deal breaker for any of these cars, though, especially since if you upgrade the pads and brake fluid you will observe an improvement.
How does it feel on the 19 inch wheels? Would they feel stiffer than a F20 M sport on 18s?
It's been a few years since I last drove an F20 with the M pack, but I would say this is similarly stiff. Adaptive dampers are a must if you have bigger wheels, as they make the car far more compliant when it's set in Comfort mode. And as much as I like the wheels on this G42, I'd go for smaller ones if it was my own car.
those wheels are SO sick. were they a factory option?
Yes and yes - they are available from the M Performance catalog and are called 898 M Y-Speiche.
Man 50k Euros for a 2l Diesel. I want to like this car and it is good, but it is so damn expensive with the M-Kit added. And you can not get the M-Diff LSD like on the 230i as an option.
I would try to go for a M240i if possible. It is "only" 5000-6000 Euros more over this with comparable spec. And you get the beautiful B58, AWD, LSD and probably same or less deprecation.
If this 5000k are too much maybe think about a last gen M240i F22. And if you want to save money get a Ford Diesel.
Very well put. I think on balance the 230i with the diff is realistically the best compromise. I haven't driven the current M240i, but if it's anything like the old one, it's a bit of a handful on the limit. If I bought a new 2 Series today, it would be the 230i... or if a briefcase full of money fell into my hands randomly on the street, then I'd wait for the new M2.
Where can I find this beautiful road?
Somewhere in Romania :)
@@OneTireFire can you be more specific, because I really live în Romania and I actualy own this car, so it will be nice to take a drive there.
@@fuzzyyy100 it's between Sărata Monteoru and Haleș in Buzău county.
@@OneTireFire Thank you! I'll keep that în mind.
The M-sport package is a waste in anything lower than the 230i, and even in the 230i is not really that useful. In my opinion it doesn't even make the car look good but that's subjective, i prefer the base look, especially in purple. I think m-sport additions are one of the most overrated things in modern BMWs. They typically add thinner low profile tires which make ride comfort far worse, are worse in slippery conditions, increase energy costs and lower acceleration, they are also worse in the fun department since they make the car harder to slide under normal public road speeds (which is the most fun thing people can do in these, no one is racing at 200km/h on public roads...). Thinner tires also get damaged easier and are more expensive. Add to that the sport suspension which makes the car have lower ground clearence and have harsher ride comfort still.... It also adds dynamic steering ratios which is basically worthless at public road speeds... Honestly, you are paying for the car to get worse for daily driving. And if you don't even have an engine that can really race, what is the point of making the car more track-worthy? I really don't understand why BMW uses review cars with msport even in 7second+ 0-100 economy cars like this.... Anyone who buys a 218i, 220i, or 220d and speccs for m sport is clueless about cars. It is far better to keep it at stock wheels, looks and suspension and just spend the money on upgrading to a 230i and/or the LSD (which you can get without the rest of the msport additions). It will be sportier where it matters and will have more comfort and less running costs.
Yeah, I have to agree with you. Instead of spending on the M Sport pack on a 220, you could spend that money on a better engine or some other options. I actually prefer the look of the M Pack G42 to the one without it, but, as you say, this is subjective (I really liked the look of my tester with its wheels and color combo).
For many BMW buyers (who are not enthusiasts or keen drivers), owning a BMW is more of a status symbol, and having one with M bits makes them feel better about themselves. They think people perceive them as cooler or something. You will see a lot of base 218s with the M pack but hardly any other options if you do a quick search on mobile :)
All these cars are at least half a second faster than officially claimed by BMW - emissions fraud...but good
Yep, BMW always underrates the performance of its vehicles.
You're missing the point of this vehicle honestly.
* You’re and how so?