Walt Disney World Is Digging Its Own Grave
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Walt Disney World as well as their theme parks, Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Epcot and Hollywood Studios, are in serious danger of losing their market leader position in the Orlando Florida market. If things do not change, the future of Disney World will not just be bleak, but could result in Universal Studios Orlando taking over as the top amusement parks chain in the theme park industry.
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Building a 5th Disney Park would be ridiculous when Animal Kingdom, EPCOT, and Hollywood Studios all feel like 2/3’s of a complete theme park.
Epcot and AK definitely feel incomplete. Both are huge parks with a lot of room to grow, which does not count area used by the Lagoon or Safaris. However Studios, forget it. That park is bursting at the seams and is limited by its small footprint. WDW also has two horribly outdated water parks lest I forget.
But think of all the jobs it'll supply.
The other problem with Disney’s current strategy (beyond the many you pointed out) is that they’re alienating first time guests who aren’t as familiar with how to maneuver the parks. I’ve been to the Disney parks a few times since Genie has come out, and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on it at this point to maximize my experience and walk away happy. But for guests that don’t know how to work it, not only did you pay $15 dollars extra PER PERSON, but you didn’t even get the benefits of doing it because it’s needlessly complicated. This will only serve to ensure that these guests don’t want to come back again.
Anyway, great video!
Absolutely. The trip planning process has become ridiculously tedious and complicated. I believe reducing overcrowding and increasing capacity would also help to alleviate these issues, as with shorter wait times and more reservations available, the need to plan so much ahead of time would be significantly decreased.
so i just booked my first ever trip to WDW and omg the HOURS of research i have put in (to just understand very basic, necessary to know things!) has gotta be a high number. thankfully for me it's a hobby, learning about the parks made me want to go. but most people aren't like that. and it's a huge barrier to want to visit (it was for me before i cared about disney! always felt like a big can of worms to open - i guess i opened the can tho)
Correct!
Yeah Disney needs another Walt or maybe *sigh* another Michael
@@expensivepink7 Then you have to watch this video: "Skipping the Lines All Afternoon at Disney's Hollywood Studios -- Stacking Genie+ Lightning Lanes" Otherwise you will be lost.
I disagree about Magic Kingdom having enough to do. MK only has 20 rides, yet is the most visited theme park in the world, while Disneyland in CA has over 33+ rides. This explains why MK is so overcrowded, it doesn't actually have enough rides to accommodate the attendance it gets. If you visited MK on a day with no crowds, you could finish the park in just a few hours. Disney doesn't want to apend money to add new rides anywhere. WDW will usually get rid of an old ride and replace it with a new ride instead of building a brand new ride from scratch, which doesn't actually help with the park's capacity.
Yeah seriously, Tron is the first brand new ride there that’s not replacing an old one in the last 20 years
Agreed. All Disney is interested in adding to the MK is shitty fast food kiosks.
I’ve never been to MK, only been to Disneyland, but I know people who have been to both MK and Disneyland. In regards to the rides that can be found at both parks, MK’s are shorter than Disneyland’s. This means that guests are spending more time off rides than they are on rides at MK which can contribute to the overcrowding problem. Considering that the rides are longer at Disneyland, Disneyland’s rides can have more ride vehicles and thus load more people on, which means more people on their rides. You also have to factor in rides breaking down or being down for routine maintenance. I don’t know what MK’s statistics are in this area, but I know Disneyland’s Splash Mountain broke down fairly regularly.
This is true. They changed Spaceship Earth, the Great American Movie Ride, and the Maelstrom in recent years. In MK there are a number of rides that don't appeal to guests over the age of 7 (i.e. Winnie the Pooh, It's a Small World, Carousel, Teapots, Dumbo, Aladdin, Barnstormer, and maybe even Peter Pan). The quality of the rides they are replacing isn't better either, the replacements feel cheap and gimmicky. Additionally, the gift shop theming could be a lot better. When you are in a gift shop, even in a themed land like Galaxy's Edge, you FEEL like you're in a gift shop, not a fictional store that fits into the theme. Compare this to the gift shops in Harry Potter World at Universal - when you are in Ollivander's etc, it feels like a store in that universe vs a gift shop. The lighting and attention to detail is far beyond that of Disney at the moment.
Disney USED to be the best, but they're rapidly losing ground.
@@cadence4527 Disneyland in Anaheim is original and bigger, that's what made it better than any other in Disney World. As someone who has visited both (Disney World once for only a week), Disneyland is home and I've been there more than 10 times. Better quality (food & drink, employees, shops, etc) if you ask me.
At disney for the first time in 4 years and have noticed everything this video shows. Disney really is digging its own hole and filling itself in
Yeah....yeah... lmao....except Disney parks keeps having monster numbers every year for guests and guests come back again and visit not for just 1 day but multiple days at a time and makes billions per year......but naw....let's be like other parks and make less money lmao
My family got some year passes (we live in Tampa) circa 2013-2014 and based on everything I've heard since then about how the fast pass system has evolved, it feels like we really got in our family memories in the nick of time lmao.
Don't you think it's too early to say stuff like that? I, for one, am not giving up on Disney. Not EVER!!! I'll do my part by getting a job at Disney and change things for the better! I'm going to help Disney get back on its feet! Those stubborn higher-ups better listen because I'm NOT going to let Disney fall like this!
@@Cinemamuffin You'll still visit Disney once I've changed things for the better at Disney. And this is no laughing matter. This is my goal.
In my mind, I think Universal chose unbelievably good timing to announce and open Epic Universe. For Epic Universe, if it has big franchises that get their own spot and all of it is high quality, I won't say that they will shoot Disney off the face of the earth, but I do think that Disney will lose thousands of millions of guests to Universal. So far, we know that at least Nintendo World, some Illumination, and some Dreamworks (highly rumored to be on the HTTYD series) are going to come. Others like Harry Potter (either the Ministry of Magic or Fantastic Beast), Universal Monsters, a possible Pokemon area, and LOTR range from high to low for the rumor scale. But, so far, most of the park is unknown. I think I've heard things about bringing rides from other Universal parks to Epic Universe, but again, rumors. But, If most are true (and even if others are not), that would be huge for not only Florida parks themselves, but for all the parks in general
My biggest reason to not like Universal is their disability design is TERRIBLE compared to Disney. In DW I can go on every ride. Universal only had three rides that met 1. Me wanting to go on it 2. It being safe for me to go on 3. The queue having space for my chair. Hagrid's didn't even have the third and I needed to transfer to a manual chair. You can't survive solely off the money of disabled park goers though
Finally, a valid reason against the current state of the Disney parks rather than "IP-based attractions bad."
Is this dude seriously complaining about Disneyland parks having a shit ton of guests? Lol wtf. Sssooo this dudes business plan is having less guests? Lol. The majority of Disney Park fans, don't mind about the wait times because they visit for multiple days at a time rather than just 1 day. I hope to god this dude never has his own business. This dude is saying that Disney guests don't or won't come back because of wait times......yet....EVERY year Disney has monster numbers......lol and then this dude admits that Disney parks make billions per year.....but wants Disney parks to have less guests......I just.....I don't get this dude. 🙄
@@nexpro6118 do your own research and find many many more videos about how garbage the current state of disney is...
The lines & crowds at Magic Kingdom & Hollywood Studios are insane.
Epcot & Animal definitely need more attractions to help spread people out throughout the 4 parks.
It blows my mind to look back at the capacity original EPCOT Center attractions had, and to look at how many expansion pads still exist for new countries in World Showcase...and how none of it has been put to use and/or has been eliminated.
@@jmn327 Yeah, attractions like Horizons and World of Motion were people-eaters with a huge hourly capacity.
Is this dude seriously complaining about Disneyland parks having a shit ton of guests? Lol wtf. Sssooo this dudes business plan is having less guests? Lol. The majority of Disney Park fans, don't mind about the wait times because they visit for multiple days at a time rather than just 1 day. I hope to god this dude never has his own business. This dude is saying that Disney guests don't or won't come back because of wait times......yet....EVERY year Disney has monster numbers......lol and then this dude admits that Disney parks make billions per year.....but wants Disney parks to have less guests......I just.....I don't get this dude. 🙄
@@nexpro6118 It's about having so many guests but not enough capacity to handle them all, hence the lines get super long and the experience suffers.
@@jmn327 well, seems like guests don't care because they still show up and spend billions still lol
I love how this video actually provides constructive criticism instead of just bashing Disney out of personal dislike for the parks/company.
Unlike Poseidon entertainment.
Indeed. I much prefer nuanced and thought provoking critiques of Disney like this one to the boorish and obnoxious, "LOL! DISNEY AM BAD BECAUSE WOKE! ME WANT CLICKS!" rant videos that do nothing but expose the creator's vitriolic hatred of the company.
Cough cough Poseidon
Not me
I do get this as well with Poseidon Entertainment. He tries NOT to be bias but his bias is pretty obvious. Of course some are valid criticisms but you really can tell.
I feel like they know…but they just don’t care. As long as people keep coming and keep paying they won’t do a single thing about these problems.
Yeah that seems to be where things are headed. Disney was caught off guard and was reactionary when Universal opened their Harry Potter land, allowing Universal to grab significant market share. If they choose to be reactionary again and not get out ahead of this, they may see positive numbers in the short-term, but in the long-term they will be screwed.
Its funny how Universal Studios Singapore, the smallest of all the universal parks (25 HA) , has 18 rides even with the closure of 1 entire land (Madagascar just closed earlier this year, though the carousel remains). That's nearly as many as Magic Kingdom and double the other WDW parks
Madagascar closed ?!? What?
@@DZstudios. Yup. Honestly, it was just a huge waste of space. the animatronics are terrible too. The real and only reason locals would ride A Crate Adventure is to escape the heat and humidity. There is almost never a queue, and its ridiculous seeing how large the extended queuing area is.
Doesnt help that this attraction was massively toned down due to budget cuts. still this day, we still dont have any info on what the planned attraction would be, except that it was going to be a lot more thrilling including several drops. A massive show building but the ride only stays at 1 elevation.
Minions Land is taking over, and it'll be a huge improvement.
They’ve actually reduced capacity over the past five years by cutting shows and entertainment, as well as replacing high capacity, long rides with much shorter rides. Ellen’s Energy Adventure was 45 minutes, replaced with Guardians at only 3 1/2 minutes. They have rarely added, mostly rethemed with less capacity.
This was inevitable! You’ve seen the decline at Disney World of the last 10 years, first in cleanliness, customer service has dropped away off and then recently the addition with Park, Reservations and genie plus! You are absolutely right - Universal is coming at them like a lion!
The reason why Disney isn't working on their parks is because, well, they want more money. And by doing what they are right now, they are gonna fall really fast. For example (and no hate to the people who like these,): The crappy amounts of movies they're making. Like the last time they actually made good stuff was before I WAS BORN (the 2000's or earlier). Its just stupid to see how a company who's already a Multi-Billon and possibly trillion dollar company is still not able to actually give a shit about their work. But, that's how I see this going. I mean even Walt would probably disapproved a lot of what they do nowadays.
Yeah, they're definitely prioritizing quantity over quality in their current movies and TV shows. Meanwhile, lots of great older stuff sits in the vault.
We used to be Disney Annual pass holders and had a great run in the “ before” times. But we gave it up. It just turned into shit. But here is the reality. Too many people are willing to pay anything to go to an overcrowded park. Disney can’t make capacity increase instantly, but they can keep raising prices until the market finds the balance, and we are not there yet. So because of the laws of supply and demand in the short term, prices will go way up and the service will go down until a balance is found. Welcome to a stiff dose of reality.
It's not so easy.
Rides on the Disney scale cost between $100 million and $800 million to build, not including maintenance, development, research, and quality checks as well as safety and securing the rights to the IP. Then there's advertising and staffing.
$5.49 Million a day is just the maintenance budget alone at the parks. Disney can't just build more rides for the other parks. They would need to expand substantially, license IP and more. They are not dyeing because of overcrowding. It's the loss of quality and higher prices that have been killing the parks. What they need is to find a better strategy.
You raise some very valid concerns. I'll wait until we see what they unveil at D23 before I start panicking, but this IS admittedly worrying. Though, and forgive my digression, I'm surprised that Animal Kingdom is the second most attended park in the resort. I thought it would be Magic Kingdom, Hollywood Studios, EPCOT, and THEN Animal Kingdom.
I’m surprised by that too, especially since the park has the shortest operating hours. But I guess Pandora and the zoo aspect have really helped to pull Animal Kingdom ahead. Also, to be fair these numbers are from 2019 so Galaxy’s Edge had only just opened and Epcot’s recent expansions hadn’t come out yet. I wish I could’ve used the 2021 numbers, but those aren’t available yet.
It doesn't matter what they unveil at D23. Most of what they do announce will either be eventually cancelled, have severe budget cuts, or take 6 years to build.
The second place spot varies sometimes depending on the year, but Animal Kingdom was absolutely riding the Pandora wave to that spot in '19.
I remember when Animal Kingdom opened and everyone just waited for it to tank. Then, we went there - and this was before Pandora - and we found a wonderful, relaxing, adventurous, beautiful theme park, one that felt like it just grew organically somehow. We walked out of there knowing we would be going back the next day. We didn't feel that way about Disney/MGM Studios nor Epcot.
What did you think of D23?
I agree there are a lot of problems with Disney but the Dorney comparison is ridiculous. In the Tri-state area there are MULTIPLE parks and boardwalks with a bunch of roller coasters and flat rides. Same rides you can go to anywhere. No dark rides, no themed rides and no shows that are the quality of Disney shows. People are paying for that.
What makes no sense is that parks in the northeast don’t have more dark rides that can remain open in the winter.
And yes, Universal will be a much bigger threat once their new park is complete.
Reservations are not required at Universal or SeaWorld. This needing a reservation to go to Disney is another nail in their coffin.
Disney will never get my money, I use to live 5 miles from Disney and still didn't go there, crowds are crazy, rules are ridiculous, OVERPRICED admission, OVERPRICED food and beverage, DISNEY IS NOT AS GREAT AS WHAT PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT BE
What blows my mind is that the international parks are so much better at this! Tokyo has higher budget rides, Paris has far better scenery than any of Wdw‘s parks (besides maybe Animal Kingdom) and neither are nearly as overcrowded, so there’s no reason they can’t do this! So I’d definitely recommend you go to either one of those parks or Disneyland in Anaheim instead, they’re still crazy pricey, but it’s not so stressful to plan out that it makes you enjoy it less.
truth be told because both those countries have major sway over those parks and disney has to play by their laws.
@@ChouhouinNeko true, and the government of Anaheim has a lot of say in the expansions Disneyland makes, so it’s not as crazy.
And Disney has a fircking government of there own
@@brianstabile165 not anymore it got dissolved by the state of Florida Weeks ago
@@alexanderhall6807 it already has they only have months left till it becomes official they where given only a year i believe before disney lost it and the state took over
What’s actually kinda ironic about Hollywood studios is that the park has too many good e ticket rides and not enough supporting. Star tours and alien swirling saucers are the only rides that can even really be considered supporting rides. I love Mickey and Minnie’s runaway railway ad I get why they had to remove the great movie ride but they really should’ve considered just refurbing it and building Mickey and Minnie’s somewhere else since it would’ve added another nice supporting ride to offset all the new cutting edge e tickets. I personally think they should’ve added another flat ride to toy story land or they should take the animation courtyard area and build another land like toy story land with an IP that justify some lower tier rides that wouldn’t decrease the quality of the land. They don’t even need to build a full scale ride but bringing something on the level of one of the hundred boat or Omnimover rides in Epcot would work. So ironically Epcot needs more e tickets and Hollywood studios needs more supporting rides
Four words: Great Muppet Movie Ride
If you want to have another comparison between Dorney and Disney, I was able to buy a Cedar Point Platinum Pass last September for $202. I decided to fly to LA to go to Knott's Berry Farm, since the pass gets me into any Cedar Fair park. I thought about going to Disney for 1 day to hit up The Matterhorn and Mr Toad's and whatever else i could fit in, until I saw the ticket would be $199.
So for the price of one day at Disneyland, I went to Knott's (2 days), Cedar Point (4 days across 2 different weekends), Carowinds (2 days), and King's Island, King's Dominion and Dorney Park for 1 day.
I've been saying this for years. The 2020's will be the decade of Universal Studios! 😎
Yeah!✊🏼
You are right!
A Day at Disney cost more than a Cedar Point Gold Pass with the insanely long food lines, ride lines, and crowds included
Years ago they had capacity limits and closed the parks to the public when full.
They now have a reservation system that could theoretically do this again... but instead they just use it to assign staffing.
In all honesty, Disney is falling behind. They waited too long to build expansions. Now they are needing expansions at each park.
Magic Kingdom needs some sort of expansion with smart ride systems that eat the crowd and have quick turn over.
Hollywood Studios needs 2 more lands with AT LEAST 3 rides each for me to consider it a full day park. It desperately needs a water ride, and more shade.
Animal kingdom should expand into S America with Emperors New Groove, Up, and Encanto attractions and expand the animal area. Also needs to create a Onward area. The original concept was to have mythical creatures area. This would cover it.
Epcot is Epcot. I’m not sure what they should do there. I feel like it’s having an identity crisis.
Also Disney takes twice as long as the competition to build attractions. Dragging their feet is costing them. How many years has Tron been being built? While Universal is building an entire park expansion?
With the exception of the New guardian of the Galaxy ride. The beginning of Epcot is badly outdated and in dire need of update. Many of the rides are cheesy AF.
Disney has no interest in improving wait times at their parks. If wait times are short, no one will pay them more for Genie+. Disney isn’t about an excellent guest experience anymore, they’re about squeezing as much money out of guests as they can.
Magic kingdom feels like NY times square. My family took a vacation this passed summer there and we didn't enjoy it at all, spent 5 hours there and majority of the time waiting in line, only able to get on two rides. it was soo overpopulated to where my whole family was sick after we left. They definitely should get a solution to this problem.
I would give anything to go back to 90's/2000's Disney when you could actually walk around and enjoy stuff without the crowds...
If they increase capacity how will they ever find ways to scam you into paying more money for lightning lanes 🤔
And let’s not forget the overcrowded mess at Disney Springs. Absolutely no enjoyment going there. Reservations required at almost every restaurant and way too many people.
The problem will all end when a valid CEO who care for the parks and company overall enters office.
I agree that Disney should expand Animal Kingdom and EPCOT as those parks need it.
With the size of these two parks they could add a few more rides to up those attendance numbers.
Should Disney get the Marvel/Simpsons/20th Century Fox theme park rights and remaining Hulk/Namor/She-Hulk movie rights from Universal and expand it to include Marvel superheroes in every Disney park (same with 20th Century Fox properties besides Avatar), that could do the park a favor. Same with sending the scrapped Rocky and Bullwinkle concepts to Universal and WildBrain and possibly adding pavillions based off other countries. And another thing: I would like to see NBCUniversal scoop up Warner Bros. Discovery and buy the Warner Bros. theme park rights from Six Flags completely to rebrand Marvel Superhero Island as Worlds of DC, think of bringing in a Cartoon Network or Animaniacs area in where The Simpsons attractions are at and getting the Batman Fox TV series from Disney and selling the Fantastic Four Hanna-Barbera cartoon to Disney.
Also, if anything, Universal should have its own Pixar Pier-style area via DreamWorks attractions.
@@Club-Dreamiverse Universal is not giving up their rights to Marvel in the eastern market without Disney paying for a rethemed land and then some. Their contract is indefinite as long as they maintain the area.
@@blumountaindew Oh.
@@Club-Dreamiverse as someone who works for universal theme parks yes what bluemountaindew said is true. universal has themepark rights and a contract saying no one can take them away form them for any reason signed before disney brought marvel. disney has no choice but to honor it.
Lifelong Disney Passholder here. I just switched over to UOAP. Best decision I’ve ever made. Let’s give Disney a few years to figure this mess out and stop giving them your hard earned money.
To correct you in the simplest terms. Too many people are going to Central Florida for the parks. The roads, stores and communities are overcrowded. Disney needs to build a whole new resort complex elsewhere.
The number of fights at Disney has gone up lately too. Between long long wait lines and Disney Genie it’s gotta be why. Disney gotta check themselves.
Yeah I guess everyone's just on edge now. You're spending so much money and painstakingly planning out your trip to the tiniest degree to make sure everything goes smoothly. If one thing goes wrong, I can see how someone would just lose it.
@@AttractionIdeas Pandemic, that's why.
I grew up with Disney going to Disney world, owning all the CDs, etc. - Yet, I also grew up reading & watching Harry Potter. -
When I’m planning vacations I’d choose Disney but ALWAYS made sure to add Universal due to Harry Potter World and having more rides! -
I’ve been to ALL Disney parks in Florida but Disney is charging more money for magic bands, reservations are getting harder to get, and insane wait times. Also their new Genie+ app?!?!?! - A lot of people are choosing Universal over Disney.
I’ve known Disney-long time dedicated fans switch plans to Universal! - Disney is for sure going to loose this battle if Universal add extensions to Harry Potter World, add their Mario World (from Japan to Florida,) and create more cooler rides. Universal is only going to get stronger.
Disney is making so many terrible decisions based on past victories and are arrogantly banking on their brand. I want Epic Universe to be the beginning of Disney’s end
When I went in January, it was so unbelievably packed. While I definitely see overcrowding in Hollywood studios, magic kingdom I notice far more. I’m not a claustrophobic person, but I felt claustrophobic everywhere in the park. Nothing besides the flat rides has anything less than an hour wait. I got on one ride and left to go to Epcot after spending hours at magic kingdom. First time I can say I had a BAD time at Disney
After the parades at Magic Kingdom, the crowds are worse than Times Square.
oh god you're scaring me my first trip ever to WDW is for january (only time i can go, probably the same for many others, ugh)
@@expensivepink7 I think you’ll be fine, it was held up Covid travel for the most part. As long you go a week or two after Christmas you should be good
@@CosmicTraveler1901 Thanks, friend!! I think it will be busy for sure at least during the start of my trip but I'm prepared for crowds so I don't think I will be bothered if they are there
@@expensivepink7 if anything, if it gets too bad, I have to say that genie plus is worth it when you are in magic kingdom and Hollywood studios. It’s sucks to cough up the extra 15 bucks but if so it it makes the day much more tolerable if it’s packed
I've never been to WDW nor have I had the desire to go. Too big, too expensive, Florida. But having gone to the OG, Disneland a number of times, I will say that I am not inclined to visit that park either. The last time I went was in 2000 with my 3 boys. They loved the resort, tomorrow land, Indiana Jones ride, Pirates ride and there it ended. They were 10, 8, & 7 years old and more interested in the resort pool, koi pond and game room than the park itself. From a parent's POV, it is too crowded and it is a shakedown. There are more stores and food stands than attractions. The delays on attractions are manufactured by Disney to get people into air conditioned stores, restaurants. Now they can track you with the bands, you spend unconsciously with the bands, and you even have give a thumbprint to enter on a pass. The purpose to going to amusement parks is right in the name. I was anything but amused.
Honestly I like Disney… but man, has universal studios been stepping up their game. Even when you visit their smaller park in LA, it still feels more immersive and personal than it does at Disneyland. I feel like at Disney parks, it’s constantly “hurry hurry hurry! We gotta plan everything or the day is ruined.” At universal it is so chill. Gives you time to actually enjoy attractions and rides. I don’t even remember the last time I got to sit and enjoy a show at disney without picking and choosing between an attraction or a show.
Ugh, Busch Gardens Williamsburg, there all day, rode every landmark coaster multiple times a day as well as several flat rides multiple time, never waited more than 10 mins 🥰
Legit, can do that exact day all week.
Yeah, if coasters are your thing Disney isn't really the place to go.
In Florida, their version would be Busch Gardens Tampa. I loved their roller coasters and there was always plenty of of stuff to see and ride. I still hope to go back one day
to Busch Gardens and Universal. DIsney lost me as a supporter years ago with their arrogance, laziness and sheer greed.
I've been saying this for the past 20 years but everyone kept writing me off saying "oh you just don't like change." Look who's laughing now.
Within the next 4-5 years, Universal is going to overtake Disney World as the top dog in Florida. Universal's announcement of Epic Universe wasn't just a coincidence - they sense blood in the water and are gonna go in for the kill. My family and I love Disney, but we may not be going back to WDW anytime soon. We're hoping to go to Disneyland though, as we've never been there before.
Came back a week ago from Disney. Never again. Things have changed. Not fun anymore and it’s all about profit.
It’s been awhile so happy to see another upload!!!!!
Know what's even worse? The way they're gutting high capacity attractions and replacing them with super low capacity ones, which just creates *even longer lines*. Universe of Energy and Great Movie Ride were dated, but they were huge crowd eaters; their replacements don't approach a fraction of the numbers they could handle, and the problem is doubled when you see that these are being done as replacements rather than additions to the parks.
Yes, Disney's done some expansion of late (e.g Pandora, Tron, Ratatouille), but with SO much space in Florida why do they keep gutting pre-existing attractions that could help handle these capacity issues? It's where I do think a fifth gate would come in handy, but I agree that they need to address the existing problems with their current parks before doing that...but man, even then they dropped over $1 billion on the tech that became the magic bands and now all the reservation nonsense they use. Think what that money could've gone towards!
But hey, I guess they'll just keep building new "lands" that only have two rides but *tons* of high-end retail space, since that's what the Bobs have been most focused on since they took over. And let's not even get started on the whole "if it's not based on an IP we own, we're not making it" philosophy they've hammered home, which limits so much of the potential ideas imagineering could cook up to help alleviate some of these issues...like, think of how adding new nation pavilions to World Showcase would help EPCOT, but whoops! Unless there's a Disney movie or property we can attach to it, I guess it's a no go!
Problem is Disney would rather just raise prices than invest in adding capacity. As long as they make money they don't care if anyone enjoys the experience or not
I have to admit we used to be regular DW visitors. We'd loved it. THEN we visited in 2022 and WOW has Disney messed up! First, Genie+. That CON has absolutely destroyed the experience and for what? It doesnt work. The Qs are the longest they've ever been. Disney's greed and desperation is on full display with that! The parks were dirty, shabby and generally run down. The rides broke down all the time! Cast members were surly, unhappy and more interested in chatting to each other in-between yelling at guests. The Magical Express has gone so international visitors lost that incentive. And how on earth did Disney think international customers would react to the moustached cast member at bibbidi bobbidi boutique?! Did they think people from the middle east and asia would rush to book after that?! I hope "Nick" was worth the millions lost there. Their film and tv output lately has all been agenda driven and divisive (strange world, lightyear, the Proud Family). No one wants what they're pushing. Their characters look ugly, and the environments are unattractive (elementals). Nothing they do anymore gives you escapism or beauty. Disney did this to themselves
Disney needs to drop billions of dollars in new lands and rides for Disney World, they need more capacity at every park, each one could use 2 new E-ticket rides now to help. But instead they spend their money on Disney + and the parks keep suffering. At this point people shouldn’t care if the new additions are based on IP or cloned as long as they are done well and help overcrowding then its a good thing
Or, better yet, a couple of high-capacity but solid quality C- or D-ticket rides.
Yep, pretty well said. It seems that Disney's current model for "handling" overcrowding is pricing people out of the park and passing off meet and greets as new attractions. That won't work long-term, especially with Universal pushing harder than ever to build up their resort and overtaking them in the same market. Disney is languishing while Universal is undergoing a renaissance; it isn't hard to put two and two together there.
Another aspect of this is I think that Disney Genie is making the overcrowding problem worse. Genie obviously exploits the overcrowding problem to drive people who are willing to pay extra during their visit, but in doing so it actually makes the problem it's "solving" worse. Genie allows you to "queue" for a handful of rides during the day without you actually being in them, then return to get on them quickly later. But because Genie guests can (and usually do) queue for other rides while they're waiting for their Lightning Lane return times, they essentially get to wait in two lines at once. Thus, those that pay eat up more capacity than they otherwise would and make the lines longer for those who don't. It makes Disney money of course, but it makes the lines worse, and I bet it decreases guest satisfaction too. I would love to see what would happen to the crowd patterns if they took out LL and released the parks to just stand-by only, even if they don't add more rides to their undersized parks like HS, AK, and Epcot (though they obviously should).
Disney is becoming a company that caters to the high end and wealthy customer. Problem is, the majority of people that want to visit aren’t in that category, they are just regular families on a regular budget
Great video and that’s why we stop being annual passholder at Disney and now we are pass holder to Universal and loving it!!!!!
Chapek is murdering this company
Yup
Not anymore
The two biggest complaints for Disney is it's too crowded and it's too expensive. Well sorry folks, can't fix both. That's how supply and demand works. So pick one. Building more rides won't fix it either. The more they build the more people come. The problem with Disney is it's so popular.
From weird bulb drawings to mentally curb stomping Disney
It reeeallly seems like Disney doesn’t care anymore!
It was so apparent last time we went. I’d much rather just do universal now!
As a massive Universal Orlando Resort fan, I feel like it’s way more chill and less stressful than the Disney parks
You'll still visit Disney once I've changed things for the better at Disney. Just you wait and see, things will get better at Disney.
@@annien.1727 I hope you’re right! Because at the moment, I’ve no intention going back at all. Could spent my money on some amazing theme parks around the world
@@danielhopeuk I never make up stuff like this. I assure you, I WILL get Disney back on the right track, whatever it may take.
I don't think I heard much about the reservation system. Disney has complete control almost to the guest on how many are in the parks. If they are crowded...Disney wants that. If they are half full...still up to Disney (based on # of guests going to the parks). That causes the crowded situation and sells Genie +. The allusion that you can cut line is just that. You will pay that back when you can't use Genie and you want to go on a ride and have to make up all that time savings waiting for other line-cutters. Really sucks and is not even hidden. I love Disney but they are asking for it and will get it. Universal will cause them great grief with Epic Universe....we shall see...
They Forgot about Walt's Initiative a place for Children and Adults to have Fun together. Wandering on your phone to get on the rides you don't actually enjoy the parks ambiance. And the less affluent people get the shaft. Thanks for ruining the happiest place on earth.
I think a factor that plays into this that Disney took on a great deal of debt in their acquisitions of ESPN, 20th Century Fox, and their streaming service. These are proving to be money losers. The parks are still profitable. However, they don't have the liquidity to build capacity (or if they do, some of the rides are really on the cheap and miss having that Disney magic). Their most popular rides were developed back in the 60's.
They're in a double bind. They need to keep as many people coming to the park as a revenue generator. Hoever, they don't have the cash to invest in more rides and more cast members to give it that Disney feel.
Dorney Park can give a better experience because they didn't have Bob Iger buying up a bunch of vanity projects
I was a former Disney Fan still am overall Epic Universe is gonna crush Disney.
Once I've changed things for the better at Disney, you'll have many reasons to visit Disney again. Don't give up so easily. Good changes will come to Disney soon.
@@annien.1727 Not if Bob Igor is in charge heck as a Nintendo Fan I am excited 4 Epic Universe.
I find it funny that everybody is crowing over Disney retaining the power to build what it wants without approval when it doesn't even build anymore. They aren't expanding to absorb the ridiculous demand for the parks. Universal is expanding like crazy without Disney's sweetheart arrangement.
Unless they wake up and show “I court instant money because they make sure I don’t have to pay my own bills” Cheapek the door, then Disney is going to continue a rapid downhill slide.
When I was younger I always remember enjoying Island of Adventure more than Disney World, it felt like there was so much more to do.
Disney simply isn’t worth going to anymore. It is prohibitively expensive for the average family. Even if they address the capacity and overcrowding issue it doesn’t really solve anything.
Here in Europe, I prefer parks like Parc Asterix, Efteling, Phantasialand or Europa-Park over Disneyland Paris ...
More natural
Less crowded
Better food
More balanced to cater different ages and not to trap families
And ... much cheaper !!!!
Btw ... dorney has 45 attractions ?
Europa Park has 100+
Their logic is "why spend more money on rides if people are already willing to pay for what we have". Just corporate greed...
You don't understand Disney's business strategy. They don't care about their parks making people happy. That's not the KPI for their theme parks
Disney needs a fifth gate AND to work on the existing parks. Calling the idea “brain dead” is ludicrous.
great vid bro,
disney is 100 percent going to fall off in a decade or 2
plus L plus ratio
You are dead on except the magic Kingdom will always be expected to add rides. It’s Walt Disney World’s flagship. I wish they would utilize Stitch’s great escape building.
As a die hard disney person that goes once sometimes twice a year. I can’t agree more to this entire video. Disney in my eyes are going away from what Walt envisioned back in the day and only caring about making money. Soon universal is going to be the king and as of now I enjoy going to universal more then disney because the rides are just better and the park isn’t as crowded as Disney’s.
Universals attractions are not better, I’m sorry. Minions may be the worst ride I’ve ever been on. Fast and furious is a joke. Transformers, Spider-Man made me ill. Velosicoaster is incredible, hagrids is fun. That’s it.
@@FirstNameLastName-js2ul I think Universal isn't quite there yet, Studios has too many simulators while Islands doesn't have enough for families to do. I hope the parks expand after Epic Universe opens so the ride lineup for both parks can be bigger and better.
@@NocturneFexy I don't know, while Islands does have a lot of thrills and a lot of ride for the little ones, they still have a fair amount of family rides.
To be honest I don’t care what Disney does because universal has always been my favorite between the main 2 and want universal to succeed
Nice follow up to the how universal can take over Disney though
Very sad situation - Disney World is a shadow of what it was in the mid-nineties. I visited in 2018 - it was shabby, expensive and out of date. I prefer my memories to a revisit, it used to be superb.
I agree with your overall thesis. DAK, DHS, and Epcot need to expand drastically to keep up with attendance.
They have the space at each of these parks to expand at least 25% larger at each. Each of these three have flat parking lots, I say build garages and expand into the lots.
Looking at the aerial maps, DAK could expand into their parking lot with new lands behind Dinosaur, and another smaller space behind Pandora. DHS has area left of the entrance/behind Indiana Jones, enough space for several new lands (and build a new entrance at DHS, because the current one is underwhelming compared to Universal Studios). Epcot would be more challenging to utilize their parking lots for expansions (they could, but it would take some restructuring of the entrance), but they've got plenty of expansion pads to add more attractions and lands like Columbia, Brazil, and Africa.
And they don't lack IPs. There's a massive amount of under utilized IPs, like Jungle Book, Aladin, Lion King, Coco, Mulan, Zootopia, Encanto, Nightmare Before Christmas, Wreck It Ralph, Hercules, Bambi, 101 Dalmatians, Pocahontas, Robin Hood, Tarzan, Stitch, Planet of the Apes, Aliens, Predator, Simpsons, Futurama, more Marvel (whatever they can legally get away with), more Avatar, more Star Wars (I'd build Endor at DAK), more Indie, more Cars, the list goes on and on for the possibilities. And that's just IPs there's a ton of non-IP related content they could do, like mystical beasts at Animal Kingdom, a unique Africa ride at Epcot, etc.
The amount of first party IPs Disney has at their hands (including Disney Animated, Pixar, Lucas, Fox, and Marvel) is a huge competitive advantage compared to Universal. Universal on the other hand has to stretch their first party IPs, which are generally less recognizable than Disney's. And while Universal has had major wins with their partnerships with Warner Bros and Nintendo, it's more costly for them to use this approach, it doesn't always work (example: Willie Wonka), and often leads to them just using lesser known first party IPs (example: Bourne vs Bond).
What's really depressing is Disney *should* build a fifth park in Orlando. But generally people say they should not, strictly because they've neglected their current four.
Really, the only thing holding them back is their checkbook. I'm not sure if they can't "get the funds" or if it's just leadership's lack of will to spend money... It's just a terrible situation they are in currently and something has to change.
Encanto “under utilized” 😂
@@crazyfire9470 in the parks I mean
About the only thing a Disney Exec probably heard in this video is they should add a Magic Kingdom surcharge. Wanna go to MK? Pay an extra $30 a day.
Maybe Disney, Universal & other brands can create certain events that would benefit the less fortunate. These events will have characters visiting less fortunate communities for shows, parades & meet and greets.
I LOVE Disney, ive gone so many times i cant count... but i agree.. and its losing its "Magic" no longer feels as fun and more like you have to squeeze every ounce of fun out of every second to justify the price. It makes it more stressful then ever to enjoy the parks. Hopefully they figure it out before its left a bad taste in more peoples mouths. I used to tell my friends who have never gone to go and have fun! now im afraid that the new way of things and CEO will cause them to not enjoy it and hate the vacation.
im so glad your back man
also your opinions on the space mountain renovation in tokyo
Good to be back old sport. Gonna be honest, don't know jack about what's going on in parks overseas so can't really comment.
Finally! A new upload!
this is why i think Disney should just build a third park in the states. it would be a good way to make use of newer franchises. they would also not get squeezed by universal.
Good show.
For a minute I thought Storm Trooper would be an awsm costumed job. Having to stand in a small area for a "shift" with nothing to do I bet would suck.
I think the changes that the CEO of SixFlags’ is making is to attempt to compete with Disney. I’d like to see a compare and contrast between what Disney had and has done recently for their parks and what SixFlags is doing and is planning to do to see if it’s matching up. If SixFlags is trying to compete with Disney by copying them, then SixFlags is truly doomed. Every time I’ve listened to your video about the changes being made with SixFlags it sounds extremely similar to what Disney already has implemented. You know more about these parks than I do, so I’m hoping you’ll take this task on and break it all down.
If there comes a moment when we need the Save Disney Campaign it's now! Bob Chapeck is destroying the company within.
I absolutely love watching your videos they are always so logical and straight forward. Went to universal with the fam a year a ago and it was way more enjoyable then going to Disney where, like you said, you have to wait in 90 minute lines for almost every ride. We waited 55 minutes at max in universal for the new Velocicoaster ride.
Honestly, Magic Kingdom was so hyped up as Walt's dying wish that it became the new standard for all theme parks for 50+ years. Even though it has 20+ rides, it has the least amount of shows and meet-and-greets out of all the parks. I went to WDW in late August '19 (guess why) and MK is too hyper focused on small children's rides/activities. Hollywood and AK are crowded places but they have more people eater shows and meet-and-greets so it kinda balances out. They need to expand the other 3 more, deemphasize MK, and set the tickets sales goals lower to properly maintain the crowds at Florida. Anaheim has less guests and lower sales projections than Florida and they are crowded, but are they as crowded as Florida?
I've never been to Disneyland, but from what others in the comments are saying, the Anaheim parks are much better at managing their crowds.
@@AttractionIdeas they sure are. Went there Fourth of July and the waits were incredibly reasonable. Five rides in less than 2 hours.
@@AttractionIdeas Disneyland is consistently higher quality in nearly every aspect. Space Mountain is the most obvious standout. In California, Space Mountain is a sensation spectacular with synced music and beautiful special effects. In Florida, Space Mountain is a run down roller coaster in the dark with uninspired looping music you can't hear.
@@Joker22593 that's interesting because from what I've seen among Disney fans the consensus appears to be that Disneyland > Magic Kingdom BUT Disneyland's Space Mountain < Magic Kingdom's Space Mountain.
Not a fight by the way this is just interesting to me! I haven't ridden either (yet).
A lot of comments state that they feel Disney just doesn't care as long as they are still making money. The same thing was said about the Live action Films (the ones from animated Classics) - why should Disney care if their parks or films are good or not as long as they are making money, and those Live-Action films made a ton of money. So....obviously, the way to get them to care is to STOP ATTENDING the PARKS and STOP GOING TO THE MOVIES. That is the only way Disney will see that there is a problem.
You are making Dorney Park blush, my man.
I've had a dream for this design philosophy for Disney for a few years: Every new land must open with at least 1 omni-mover people-eater. If they can't afford to build one, they can't afford the new land.
These people-eaters at their best diminish crowds, while also providing more family friendly rides, and classic dark ride magic. At their worst if they're unpopular, they offer a ride that always has a low wait time. Galaxy's Edge originally was going to have a people mover-like attraction, and that would've really helped both capacity and adding visual life to that land.
Look Disney world is not gonna add rides to parks... if they add one they remove one mentality.
Disney has 2 options:
1) open a new park that just helps spread out the daily crowds with a 5 option.
2) open a entirely new Disney universe in Texas and milk marvel name. get large number of Disney world travelers to replan trips to this new park.
As long as they keep getting more than enough people to squeeze money from, they won't change a thing. The only way it can happen is if they suffer a huge drop in attendance and that's not going to happen for a long time if ever. I don't go to the parks anymore because of the crowds, obviously, they don't miss my money but I don't miss the parks either.
Disney knows they don't have to try too hard to get guests to visit. They won't invest unless it brings in more revenues and there is no guarantee that will happen.
Maybe the Disney CEO and Six Flags CEO should switch places.
Disney doesn't see the capacity problem as a problem.
They have decided to sell scarcity.
I was at Hollywood studios on July 13th 2022 and we didn’t even go to Star Wars or Toy Story land because we knew that every ride would be over a 60 minute wait
Companies are like large shipping container boats. It takes a long time for them to change course and by the time epic universe opens disney would have just started going through their company "red tape" to counteract universal.
I don't think the problem is the number of people vs the number of attractions. I think it's raw attendance numbers. There's just too many people coming to the park, period. EVERYTHING is overwhelmed. Food service, bathrooms, transportation, gift shops. None of it was designed with this many people in mind. On a busy day it is literally impossible to get something to eat. The mobile ordering app crashes over a certain amount of traffic, and all of the lines are 2+ hours long for food. Adding more attractions isn't going to fix that. What Disney REALLY needs to do is build a 3rd park in the middle of the country to take the pressure off of World and Land. But that's never going to happen. So I guess we'll just go once every 10 years and pay our bribes to get on the rides we want to ride and rack it up to "making magical memories."
The entire Disney company is digging it's own grave, not just WDW.
Oh for sure, we'd be here all day if I had to talk about what's going on with the rest of the company...
Exactly! Go woke, go broke!
Don't you think it's too early to say stuff like that? All of that is going to change once I get a job at Disney and help the company get back on its feet! I'm not going to let Disney fall like this, and you can bet your boots that Disney will be better than ever in the not-too-distant future!
I had been attending Disney World since 1977 when I was 12 years old. We had annual passes as a family for many years. Now that the parks have become so politicized and raising prices astronomically, my family and I are no longer go to the parks. When we go to Orlando, we go to Universal and Seaworld. You get a lot more bang for your buck and you’re not lectured to about political dogma.
The Disney parks might improve once Bob Chapek leaves the company which sadly is going to be a while from now.