Neopteron ecology : Seltas and Seltas Queen in Monster Hunter
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2023
- Everyone knows Seltas needs to be careful when around his queen for fear of getting eaten. But what are the secrets behind such behaviours, among other things the duo are seen to do in game too?
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10:31
I’ll be honest, the idea that DSQ is so stressed that she yeets her Seltas at you in a blind panic is hilarious.😂
*YEETS MATE INTO OBLIVION*
Well, when one can literally just reach down anywhere in the desert and pull another mate out of the sand, it's probably a reflex for her at this point.
Takes “throw the whole man out” to a whole new level.
Right in the middle of a really tough couple of weeks. Thanks, hearing about sexual cannibalism in fictional giant bugs is weirdly helpfull ❤
May it get you through your troubles!
Right?!!!! This channel is therapy for me
Ayo wtf.
@@warlerker I dont make the rules bro dont look at me
@@unnaturalhistorychannel I highly recommend you make a video on rewriting the jurassic world flims
Monster Hunter hasn’t missed with its bugs since the Vespod Queen. I really want to see more invertebrates/bugs in the roster, like a screeching cricket, a rock throwing and trap making ant lion or a demonic centipede that can burrow and climb anywhere with blinding speed.
Velvet Worm!
Woah I didn't even think of that. A Centipede monster is a great idea. I'm surprised we haven't gotten that yet. Using something like Arthropleura as inspiration sounds perfect.
so much potential and yet they’re mostly relegated to small monsters like vespoid and bnahabra… at least konchu is cool
@@sebastianturner2458 that could be mixed with the centipede as velvets worms are essentially slow, soft, and cute centipedes.
Neopteron flagship or invader please ❤
Finally love Seltas
An interesting idea would be that the Queen killing the male and throwing it at the hunter is a form of "autotomy". A predator might stop harassing the queen and eat the already avaliable Seltas, while the Queen just runs away. Unlike a lizard tail thought, loosing the male doesn't impact negativelly the queen survival, and she might as well find another one the next couple of days.
It already does that, it can sometimes throw the male at the player and it can result in the male dying.
You had my curiosity at discussing the bug couple. You had my attention at discussing the causes of their sexual cannibalism and dimorphism. You had my respect at "(know your worth, queen)".
The Seltas horn comparison image made me realize that both Seltas subspecies have three horns. In regular Seltas, the central horn grows large with the two side horns remaining small, whereas in Desert Seltas, the side horns grow large with the central horn remaining small.
Seltas Queen has always been one of my favorite monsters. Not enough to dislodge Lagiacrus as my #1, but Seltas Queen is basically competing with Odogaron for second place. The fight always felt like how I imagine a trying to fight a tank on foot would be like; yeah, there's weak points, but it's actively trying to avoid you hitting those weak points, there's a crewman causing extra problems for you, and if it closes to optimal range you're screwed. The animations and just being such a damn unique concept helps a lot.
I always thought Astalos would have been the Nerscylla killer, but I wouldn't have guessed that it could have been Seltas Queen
Now I want Seltas Queen vs Odogaron, because that’s what I imagined at your first sentence.
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE; SEE THE INVISIBLE; RO, RO, FIGHT THE POWER!
Props to Seltas and Seltas Queen for having one of the best variants. Not only is it a fitting palette change for the new environment but it's not only just a colour swap/slight texture change to fit a new element, it's a much more interesting morphological change, it's enough to feel like a proper variant and not too much as to revamp too much of the design.
The funny thing is that Desert Seltas and Queen are classified as a *subspecies*! Granted, it shares similarities to Shrouded Nerscylla in terms of design ethos, looking and acting more like a variant. But I think that's more sue to the Neopterons and Temnocerans being built different.
Heck, even Pyre Rakna-Kadaki had slight variations to the model, most notably being the larger horns on the head.
I actually want more subspecies with slight body variations as opposed to a simple color swap. After all, it's a very common feature of real life subspecies. @@TornaitSuperBird
As I work with inverts, I absolutely adore Seltas Queen; both design and fight wise.
Excellent video as always!
Very pleased it was up to standard for a bug expert!
@Unnatural History Channel You're definitely the best MH youtuber imo. Completely unique and insanely thorough on research for your videos. I think the best part is how you cite papers with the anecdote on screen. Absolutely lovely.
P.S. Monsterification of real-world inverts has an insane amount of potential and creativity. Stomatopods are genuinely just an irl MH monster. An amblypigid would be wonderful. A neopteron centipede could use najaralas skeleton, but would need heavy animation additions, alterations and replacements. Giant stick insects or mantids, honestly the possibilities for new buggy monsters is endless.
Last note: They gotta add more high tier bugs.
Jeph be like "(adjusts tie) its showtime" when he sees a bug analysis
Male Seltas as just a flying hamburger is funny as hell. Also nice to see Tea Common Shark here as well, the crossover many wanted. But a cookie for all the other artiest that provide art for the excellent videos!
I lost my mind when I made it to G rank and Desert queen just tossed the male at me, shattering him on impact
"Oh-hoh here she comes, shes maneater !"
As a 90's baby I'm actually slightly more partial to Nelly Furtado's song, but each to their own.
I really loves somebody notice the Seltas uniqueness.
Not only is from a quite rare monster category, even their fight is fundamental distinctive from any other, because it's the only dual-type boss in the main series, as well it opens the possibility for more monsters with greater sexual dimorphism, which grant them with different abillities and fighting styles.
Rathalos and Rathian are fine, but they could be different species and nobody would notice or care the difference, but Seltas are inconfundible because they always are together.
I actually witnessed Seltas Queen cannibalism in Generations Ultimate. One of the game's final Prowler quests is to hunt a male Seltas...but the catch is that it's following a female. Trying to separate the two with Dung Bombs is nearly impossible, as the male quickly follows his queen whenever she moves to another zone. The best way to do it is to drain the Queen's stamina through a combination of blunt attacks and just making her attack. Once she starts drooling, she'll instantly slay her mate, essentially doing the work for you!
When i saw Seltas/Queen for the first time in 4u it was like eating the forbidden fruit for me that there was the possibility of more neopteron monsters... And then there were none in the next games but i really hope we get more in the future
Btw isn't possible that a group of Seltas in a reproductive frenzy could eventually kill it's Queen while they try to compete for her like some solitary male bees do?
I think the power disparity between queen and drones + the fact she can burrow away may prevent that.
Butt could it happen somwtimws
@@unnaturalhistorychannel how would you explain seltas liquid blasts
I always retrain myself from watching these before bed so I can sleep later with sexual cannibalism in my ears
Just as god intended
A simp and his queen, tale as old as time
I just want to say that I love this channel
Always appreciated to hear!
It would be really cool if seltas queen actually had a hive domain with a 'toolbox' suite of different seltas that she can manipulate and augment her body with- like if she had a "trapdoor headed seltas" nearby she could flush it with pheromones and have it tightly grip her forearm so she could have a shield, or a specialized worker with huge mandibles so she could have an augmented claw or extra set of pedipalps for processing excessively large prey items. There's a lot you can do with that concept though that could make her really exciting if they expand and explore her kit in the future.
11:11
“Know your worth, queen.”
The politest way to say, “YAAASSS, QUEEN.”
Yay. I have waiting for this one! Awesome video from UHC.
Speaking of which you have inspired me to write a maritime zoology science writing essay for university, focusing on marine animals like black tip reef sharks, as well as others like green sea turtles. I hope it goes well enough.
Best of luck with it! May plesioth and the piscine video be of help!
If the Malzeno videos been postponed what will take it’s pace then
@@rylanbrewer3320 Glavenus is next
I wonder were the citadel fits in the environment video
@@rylanbrewer3320 Probably not too far from the snowy mountains region somewhere, judging from the tiaga forest landscape surrounding the castle ruins
Such a shame that this unique duo wasn't put into 5th gen. And another great video for a great monster, UHC. Keep up the great work!
There was a definitely lack of neopterons/temnocerans in World it’s like the one thing I was disappointed in (being my first game but learning about the variety in the rest of the series; I love flying wyverns and world did them very well but I wish there was more diversity in monsters)
@@cloudwyrms9752 world was also my first dive into this series and while both World and Rise are good games gen 6 desperately needs to have more variety. Like UHC said, there are several insects that could make for amazing monsters
@@Klinker0913didnt rise have rakna kadaki?
@@marcusaaronliaogo9158Yeah, Rakna and Tetra were the only new representatives for monster classes (Temnocerans and Amphibians respectively) from 4th gen introduced in 5th
I like the insect mosnters, wish there were some more like a bombardier beetle.
The original Biggest and Baddest bugs since the Carborniferous era
GF: "Babe can you touch me?"
Me: "Not now, Babe. Unnatural History Channel just uploaded."
She then proceeds to sexually cannibalize you.
Pay attention to your gf or you will be seltas'd
Imagine if we had an Elder Dragon level bug that acted like a Tarantula Hawk that was such a prolific breeder it could swarm whole ecosystems with it's young using large monsters as incubators. Could make for a neat story and induce Cazador PTSD.
Bring back these mighty morphin bakugan insects, Capcom.
It is stated that Ahtal Ka eat their males and that's how they get their golden color with their original color being brown. I believe its said somewhere that they are really small, but cant say for sure.
I remember going into 4U after playing world, and experienceing the old world for the first time, and when I got to seltas queen I was first like "oh, this is why I couldnt craft the rest of seltas armor." And then immediately was amazed and taken back with the combination of queen and drone, easily one of the most memorable monsters for me. Similarly love zamtrios alot for having a super special moment of suprise when he got fat, and ahtal ka for the freaking mech! I love monsters with super unique gimmicks and behaviors, I just love it when a monster has a unique curbeball like that.
Oh hell yeah I’m very excited for you to cover the seltases I think they’re awesome I hope the monster that’s next (after the next one of course) is one of the more absurd monsters
Maybe it is...
@@unnaturalhistorychannel what monster is next?
@@unnaturalhistorychannel oooooo I hope it’s the stupid monkey I hate that thing with all my being
@@mr.rathalos1155 there are 4 apes and 2 monkeys iirc so you're gonna have to narrow that down a bit more
Ah, truly the greatest dilemma of our time; having to choose between staying alive and getting laid.
11:12
Know your worth queen 😂😂😂😂
The way you cite your sources is so nice, idk why I just really admire how proper it looks and that they’re always incredibly scholarly.
I'm in the middle of world building for a D&D campaign, and part of that involves creating a couple of unique beasties for the players to come across. Your videos have been a great source of information and inspiration, and I get super pumped whenever one comes out!
YES I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
I know this will be great as always
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO! You are one of my favorite YT channels! Excellent work!
Only recently found your channel. I'm currently binging all your content and loving it!
This is such a cool design honestly... I love the way monster hunter approaches their insects.
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Putting a lot of this into my inspo folder for my dnd home brew world ngl. Maybe it'd be cheap to just airlift these things into my setting and dive into the consequences having something like this in my ecology would have, and where they may have come from
"know your worth queen" you got me so hard hahahah!
Always enjoy coming home after work to watch a new uhc video
This is just one of those channels where I see them upload and it's an instant "drop what I'm doing" situation. Quality every time, my guy.
Seltas is my favorite beginner monster (Along with Great Jaggi and Macao of course) and along with Ahtal Ka, some of my favorite monsters overall. Hopefully we get more big Neopterons going forward as they've been great so far
This pair is one of my favorite monsters ever. I'm very happy the finally get their video
Love that this came in right before I start my field entomology course
I really want both of these guys to return soon
YES THE NEOPTERON VIDEO YEA YEAH EYAH YEAH YEAAAAHHHHH
I've never been this hyped for a video if yours before! But the quality, I already know this will be super high quality as usual!
The big bugs themselves. Simply one of the most unique pair of monsters the series has to offer, and really does show the sheer potential of variety that MH can have with it's monster designs. So many more casual people describe MH has 'hunting dinosaurs and dragons,' so having more of these more unconventional monsters can really help just buff up variety as well as fill in more niches from an ecological standpoint.
Also poor Gammoth, picked last for video topics AND for getting into games.
I know I’m late. But your videos are such a huge help for design creatures for my fantasy project, while it is fantasy I want to keep it kinda grounded with realistic behavior and plausible designs. And for that I Thank you very much!
It's finally has come I've been waiting for this day
Been waiting on this one for a long time. Yay!
She be going Neo on my Pteron till I bug
You know, with your constant verbal berating of Rajang, I'd love to see you actually tackle the big ape properly. It's one of the few Monsters that has a specific evolutionary relationship with an Elder Dragon species, and a very unique one at that given how the adult Rajang we encounter by necessity needed to have hunted at least one Kirin in their lives to attain the catalyst for their strength-enhancing electricity generation.
It's also kinda funny to me that, despite appearances, they actually evolved nearly fireproof skin and fur, likely a consequence of them needing to be ale to survive the intense lightning that Kirin can call forth.
It’s funny, I do actually put him in the patreon polls but no one seems to want him!
If you consider that Rajang's Origin Species is Voljang, a fire monster, Rajang likely retained its heat resistance from its ancestor. Though Frontier's canonicity is dubious at best.
@@theawesomestuff2408 I'd say that even if Voljang itself isn't canonical, it does accurately depict the general evolutionary roots of the Rajang species as an originally volcanic species that adapted to resist high heat levels. Rajang are quite unique in being resistant to fire in this regard among the simian Fanged Beasts, with only Ash Kecha-Wacha having a similar resilience.
If you get the chance in the future, I'm sure at least a handful of us would love an ecology video regarding Gammoth and the comparisons with her prehistoric inspirations. That being said, I am a little biased towards the fated four. Love your videos man, keep doing what you do, and I'm super excited for next time!
Have you ever done a video on the phenomenon of wyvernization? I've watched your video about Plesioth and Lagiacrus and got really interested on the part that says Plesioth is just a fish that evolved into a wyvern because the wyvern form is so successful in the Monster Hunter world. Maybe it could also give credence to the theory that Khezu and Gigginox are not actually wyverns but something else that became wyverns.
Seltas Queen is one of my favorite Gen 4 monsters, behind Seltas itself. Love these two
I'm so incredibly excited for the glavenus video
Considering the subject matter, I'm not surprised at the humorous jokes that cropped up across the video lol. Got a chuckle with the hamburger fade-in.
always love seeing your vids on my home page!!!
I really like the Bugs, the Seltas in particular are a fun fight.
Glad you made Nerscylla my favorite bug type of them all.
Be waiting for the next monster.
Hey man i rly love ur series and learned so much from it. Even though i bet u got that request a thousand times already i would rly be interessted in the species of human that evolved and lives alongside the monsters.
Love that bugs can bring in very different fights, naturally very strange and mechanical feeling.
My kingdom for a soundboard with the "know your worth queen" 😸
This wasn't expected,but I like it
Best channel in existence, also sorry for not thinking of this for the map video but I have an idea for an endgame map area:
Heavenly Sanctuary:
A mountain range that borders a coastline that is almost always under rainfall due to being constantly hit by storms. In this region lies a flying algae equivalent which are fed on by multiple species of small flying wyverns who are adapted to eat them, but are in turn themselves prey for the true rulers of this ecosystem. Due to the constant food and water the place serves as a breeding ground for multiple flying elder dragons. Within the insides of the mountains are half sunken caverns that bring shelter to mating ibushi and narwa and their young. The drenched mountainside has many water pools and waterfalls which are formed by the constant rainfall, and may be used by amatsu for both nourishment and as a breeding ground if we assume that the wind membrane for their young aren’t developed enough to fly and restricts them to living an aquatic lifestyle. At the top of the mountain peaks would be areas which provide amazing nest for valstrax who may nest their in grand flocks like seabirds every decade or so. The area sends a feeling of peace and chaos to the player as in this region they are intertwined. The area gives off a sense of peace due to it being used as nesting grounds for these elder dragons. Maybe their could be a tunnel that is out of reach from the player that sometimes shows a narwa and her young flying by the tunnel. Maybe their could be a distant water pool that is inaccessible by the player that sometimes has an amatsu who guards over it, and occasionally you can see a young amatsu attempt to fly but fall back in. Maybe near the top you can see a colony of valstrax nesting along the mountain range and if you’re lucky you can catch a glimpse of a valstrax chick poking his head out of the nest before the parent pushes him back in. At the same time as this the area still gives a feeling of chaos due to it being a breeding ground for multiple elder dragon species who all guard their nest fiercely with monsters regularly patrolling their side of the map. Ibushis and narwas patrolling the sunken caves, amatsu patrolling the drenched mountainside, and valstrax patrolling the mountain peaks, with battles being common between the different species. I think that this map would be a really great map due to it fleshing out the ecology of these elder dragons and also providing a basis for including more flying elder dragons for this high altitude evosystem, and at it would be cool if water combat was reintroduced and ibushi and narwa could take their fight into the depths of the sunken caves and amatsu could swim into the deepest water pools for its fight.
Would be interesting to see a dragonfly monster as pretending to be an elder dragon to scare off predators it can be the fake elder dragon. Much like a certain caterpillar that it's rear end resembles a snakes head.
"Fat Dinosaur, Stupid Monkey, and Weeb Tiger" sounds like some excellent cartoon material. Or an amusing Tea Common Shark vid. Excellent work, keep it up.
The seltas pair is one of my favorite monsters. The fight is fun and chaotic, the part breaks on queen are cathartic, and you can hunt multiple seltas at the same time.
Not to mention the cool weapon and armor aesthetics.
It always has bothered me that this fantastical world filled with a incredible vast amount of creatures, that we only have a handful of actual giant insects to fight and hunt. Surely this world should be brimming with these wonderful creepy crawlers just as much as all the wyverns. I dream for the day we get to hunt a giant centipede, beetles, dragonflys, or even moths and butterflies or wasps. They have so much potential to be wonderful additions as both great fights and ecological intrests.
The sight of a seltas queen cannibalizing her mate is a very rare sight to see. I personally only saw it once in MH4U and never saw it again in future gen 4 games.
Makes sense, a spider has everything a growing spider needs after all.
"but, should a Seltas Queen go out out foraging and find the shops fresh out of boyfriends-" killed me LMAO
I love the little thing of the male Seltas morphing into a Big mac
Yeah Baby! This is what I’ve been waiting for!
fought this one in GU while high as shit off an edible and it took like 10 tries lmao
one of my favorite 4u designs
4:17 i dont know why seltas drone slowly fading into a burguer was so funny to me
Curious on how this ties to Narwa and Ibushi as a species, they're far removed from anything in real life but they have some interesting real world ties, like the sexual dimorphism between the two along with the aformentioned cannibalism, however they also pull elements from more aquatic animals with their Air sacs and their general movement as if they are underwater, and Narwas egg sac could be were the ideas converge, between insects and fish. Of course it could be chalked up to them being elders but even among other elders they share few similarities aside from Yama Tsukami and Amatsu.
I also find it interesting that after eating Ibushi, Narwa herself augments into the Allmother, reminds of how the Angler fish absorbs the male itself into her body to generate sperm and fertilize eggs, Perhaps Narwa the allmother is able to continue to fertilize eggs on her own.
Couldn't agree more with what you said about elders. This is why Chameleos is my favorite elder. It's not overly powerful, it's not an environmental dedtroyer, and over all it's just a really interesting creature with a unique fight.
been looking forward to this one. love the seltas toxic couple. gnarly designs, unique concept, fun fight, dope armor. neopterons have so much untapped potential, imagine an arthropleura-esque monster or something else that just screams carboniferous period
and would you look at that, my favorite monster (joint with narga) is getting covered next. he teeters on the brink of the “anime hype” clique but I’d argue he’s not THAT farfetched
Always loved Seltas + queen so glad to see them get covered. Gonna be real interesting to see you cover Rajang one day 😂 He's my favorite monster but I can see why some don't like him. Excellent video those as always.
I really want to watch a Rajang video too if only because it seems UHC is weary of him and I love his critical videos the most.
I love the armor sets of these guys they look like mechs
SUPER NICE
Giant bugs are the best! Have always loved these two!
I love Seltas and the Seltas Queen. I really want to see them come back!
Finally, I was waiting for an explanation on how the drone could defy gravity and lift up the queen.
Yay the seltas queen vid i always wanted
My favorite Neopteron, shame we don't get much Neopteron based monsters and that classification has so much potential
It also helps that Seltas armor and weapons looks awesome while also having vary desirable traits for gunlance or bowguns
Imo, I'd love another Seltas variant, where it's like a "peak male drone" and instead of the queen using it, they have more actual "teamwork" where the Seltas itself isn't killed at all, but instead used to fullest potential
I've never fought* Seltas but after my intro in world I've dived into the history of the series and she is one of the standout monsters I really hope I get to fight in Monhun6. Was so happy to see this episode and to hear in the final thoughts that she indeed seems to be everything I thought she is.
(* Unless you count monster hunter stories 2, where she's a pretty cool boss fight)
the say the queen kills the male is so brutal
but so good
I miss these guys
Another fantastic video, I adore the Seltas pair and REALLY hope they return in MH6, so much potential for them with environmental and monster interactions that were not possible in 4th gen. One question I've had is how does predation work at the scale of Seltas Queen and the spiders alongside monsters of similar size? You've mentioned the interaction among neopterans, carapaceons, and temnocerans, but with the exception of said buggy monsters hunting smaller, fleshy prey, what sort of interactions do you imagine at the opposite end of the spectrum? Which monsters in their respective environments would view them as prey or rivals for territory/resources?
Hey man, short time but already greatly invested viewer, wonderful work and admirable effort put into these videos. A suggestion that would make the viewer experience more enjoayble in my opinion would be to roughly match the text in the background with the current voiceover, because at times I have to stop the video, read the insert, go back 10 to 20 seconds to focus on the current topic and start from there again. I would appreciate a video on dahren-mohran and more generally titan size monsters. I`ll be catching up with your other videos in the meantime!
Would love to see a Paolumu episode, mostly focusing on the highlands
The little "know your worth queen" on the sperm count theorem gave me a good chuckle. Entertaining as always.
What a coincidence. I just finished my art piece on these 2!
Great video as always. Was a welcome surprise. And the idea of Desert Seltas Queen hunting Shrouded Nerscylla was an exciting proposition.
By the way, you mentioned the Swamp map near the end of the video, and it reminded me of a question I had following you last Q&A. You've brought up how good monsters need to be designed for their maps, and the swamp has no native "apex." So if you were to design a monster tailored for the swamp to be at the top of the proverbial food chain or threat level for the Swamp, what would it be like? What would you draw inspiration from?
I think a big amphibian monster like a salamder or something would be cool. Or a giant snapping turtle. Or a giant dragonfly nymph.
Something ugly, atypical and associated with water
Seltas Queen, my beloved
Cant wait for the crab vid tho, seems like the impact of massive spawn yields can influence what monsters can survive what habitats. Also would love to see how the use of other monster parts to be used as weapons compares to the real world. (Rustrazor in particular with its intelligence on using a similar method of sharpening like glavenus due to both being in the same area)
UHC has stated in the past that he has had troues thinking up ideas for a crab video as he states they are "Just crabs" and there isn't as much difference morphologically speaking to your average crab save size.
Honestly I'd kill to see Lightenna and it's subspecies to make an apperance in future games as a good mid game monster. it has a striking design that takes after multiple insect genera and would be the first elemental based neopteran in the series.
I'll wait for Basu Gasu Bakuhatsu Bakumatsu as a monster appearance in the next game in franchise :)
I can't be the only one, for whom this name sounds exactly like original Japanese names for the monsters.