Primate Ecology : Blangonga and Congalala in Monster Hunter
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- This time we explore the trials of being an alpha primate through Congala and Blangonga, as well as some of their ecology and potential evolution.
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"As my subscribers will know from their personal experience, being alpha isn't easy." Finally a RUclipsr who gets their audience.
Knowing what my fellows kings want
This is the new channel growth meta. Instead of asking people to subscribe at the end of the video, just relentlessly compliment the ones who do already and the others will go, "hey, I want this guy to say nice things about me for free."
Lol an alpha doesn't need to be told he's an alpha lol
@@jacobkobald1753 lol i dont lol think lol you lol quite lol get it lol
@@jacobkobald1753 thats why we constantly tell you as a reminder that you're not lol
"Fartblight". Thanks for expanding my vocabulary.
Always ready to.
I find it really interesting that MH’s primates are all digitigrade and have four digits on each hand/foot, like wyverians, instead of being plantigrade with five fingers like humans and actual monkeys.
Also, thank you for making a discord! You are quickly becoming one of my favorite channels on RUclips!
Ever since I first fought Rajang in Iceborne I've been thinking about how wyverians are probably descended from them. They have way more in common with Rajang than they do with a Rathalos or a Tigrex.
No problem, and thank you too!
That begs the question, are humans in mh universe an outside species?
@@uncarpinchomatero Considering how they're so chill about portals to other universes opening in MHW, that is possible.
You mentioning the Nargacuga made me think about their diet adaptations, prior to World Iceborne, Nargacuga had a predilection for smaller prey, they attacked Kelbi even when they where Aptonoth, Slagtoth and Larinoth in the area, giving me the idea that, In the Monster Hunter universe, Nargacuga hunted small prey such as Kelbi, Mosswine and even Bullfango to prevent conflict over food with other large predators, not many carnivorous monsters attack pelagus creatures (aside from Popo), besides small raptorial bird wyverns like Velociprey.
from my point of view, a Rathian would hunt a large male Aptonoth rather than entering in a direct conflict with a Nargacuga for a Kelbi or mosswine. Making also evolutionary sense as Nargacuga possesses Blade-like wings (also used in combat) to cut through dense vegetation while chasing small agile prey like Kelbi, things that really aren’t necessary to hunt down large herbivores like Slagtoth nor the Aptonoth since they don’t roam denser vegetation areas within their territory that often and aren’t very agile nor fast...
I hope they keep this preference for small prey concept for lore within the upcoming games, series, movies. Although I really doubt it since now in World and Rise just like any other predatory monster they feed on the same prey animal of the map (Aptonoth, Slagtoth, Raphinos and Gargwa)
When I get round to Narg diet + hunting and such will be a big chunk of his video. I also agree in Rise it's kind of annoying he's an 'eat everything' type monster, although when I get round to it I believe there may be some difference in Old and New World Narg.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel narg in iceborne eats aptonoth
Pretty sure they went for Gargwa when hunting in the Misty Peaks in P3rd.
And I believe Green Nargacuga slays Slagtoth when tired too.
5:20 if you break his Fangs, he looses his Ability to summon Blangos, implying it to be a Statussymbol.
Congalala is still seen swinging around in 4U. His Claws might be based on a Sloth ones, who can actually be quiet dangerous.
His other Inspirations seemn to be Hippos, and Orangutans.
8:55 its likely a Kelbi, the Horns fit to well, and the Females are blue.
14:10 comming back to Slots, some Algae can grow on them, making them green.
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In all honesty, I have never taken Congalala seriously because of its goofy design and his farting attack, but I do like how it incorporates the mushrooms it eats for the status ailments for its breath attack. In my experience in MH Freedom 2 in the PSP, no joke, Congalala was my 2nd wall next to Kut Ku. I had a difficult time with other weapons until I use the dual blades and I finally triumph.
Blangonga was actually my favorite Primatus during MH Freedom 2. In all the media I've watch, they always treat baboons as joke for their butts (thats pretty much the reason why I don't like Congalala). Its great to finally see a baboon potrayed as a fearsome predator not to mess with. Blangaonga's cutscene is one of greatest, with its imposing mustache, long fangs, and the ability to call blangos out of the icy grounds in command as its walks toward you menacingly along with his gang of blangos. Its one of the best early fights for me, its attacks are brutal and surprising. I would describe it fighting a early Rajang but fair.
I have just recently discovered your channel, I consider you as the best fictional documentary channel and I can't wait for more videos Unnatural History. I hope youll the rest of the fanged beast
Thank you so much! And agreed re: male baboons especially...they're pretty scary characters. 'Early rajang' is also a good summary of Blangonga.
Blangonga is also my favorite pelagus/primate monster in the series.
Same reasons as yours for the most part. A serious and fearsome subversion of pop culture monkeys in media.
And IIRC its the first to have an accurate hitbox. The leaping lunge attack, specifically.
Before, I've always taken a very timid approach to hunts due to the hitboxes being broken. Waiting for a monster to attack and only attacking during the recovery animation.
At first I did the same for blangonga and kept getting hit by his leaping lunge. Then I accidentally faced toward him and rolled a few meters in front of his face, panicking and spamming X.
But that accidental roll put me in the perfect distance to roll *_under_* his lunge. The hunt changed after that, as did my playstyle. Becoming much more active and staying close to monsters.
There was still plenty of trial and error in figuring out what attacks I can roll through/under and what were just plain undodgeable due to being 2nd gen, though.
Yeah, I remember Blangonga being the first wall for my friends and I when we were playing Generations, because it was the first monster where we couldn't just fuck because we knew that the monster is too easy to fail to. Blangonga triple carting us was a bit of a reality check and we had to actually try a bit to beat it. The Blangonga also became a bit of an inside joke after because of its funny head, deceivingly challenging battle, and the fact that it was a monkey (my friends and I go crazy for apes and monkeys)
Back when I started my MH journey in Tri I always believed that captured monsters would end up in the colosseum/arena, since coincidentally the creatures I captured in the main story were unlocked on the Split Screen Multiplayer Arena.
It would be interesting to have a mechanic where you can hunt again the monsters you've captured after the guild finished their research, since sending them back (like mentioned in the video) would make the monster's life much harder in the wild
I also think it's possible a lot of monsters for kill quests may well be ex-captured ones who became maneaters due to their crippling and such.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel Good idea, it would make sense as well. After all, we don't hunt for sport but mostly (sadly not always) by need, most people don't give the quest discriptions to much attention and there we can see that a monster is a threat, and from there on we get to hunt it. Having an arena event ''live'' for other people to watch would be a way to apreciate hunters/teach new hunters how to hunt down that monster's species in the wild. We kill and make weapons with monster parts, why not dive in deeper to why we hunt them?
@@victorribeiro6772 wasn't this a thing in world? I forget.
@@thecringeprophet I don't think so, like I implied in Tri, it was just a coincidence, unfortunately you didn't have this kind of mechanic
@@victorribeiro6772 ZAMN oh well.
Since Congalala has a prehensile tail it probably had an arboreal ancestor, with the tail being retained because even though it is biologically expensive it offers an advantage in foraging behavior.
Kind of neat how this was made sometime after the Netflix monster hunter movie(the animated CG one). A very interesting scene occurred where the main character and his “posse” encounter a Deviljho seemingly out of no where, it’s implied it was roaming about cause of the elder dragon in the region but not soon after we see a Congalala defending itself against it. Mind you its on it own and for a good portion of the fight it actually seems the have the upper hand. Knowing the nature of the simian beast if it was on its own it would have simply ran. Maybe it fought the Deviljho in order to defend a troop that was in the forest hiding near by, but of course this is just speculation
I’d also like to say that if you compare the coloration of the emerald congalala to the normal one, it looks like a much older congalala hence the beard, better head crest, and normal congalala has small amounts of green on the fur around its wrists. with the increased ferocity the emerald congalala has might because of its long life in conflict as the top male if my hypothesis peaks your interest
Definitely did, and I'm more and more slanting to emeralds being older, top class males.
my headcanon is that the fart was strong enough to turn the hair green :)
@@honezone2266 lmao, that was my second guess
That would mean their fur gets tougher with age
@@a1marine105 either the skin, the fur, or a mix of both gets tougher,
From 4U the item description for Emerald Congalala Pelt+ states: "A new, green pelt that grew back more durable after the Congalala shed its pink fur." So it's not moss, but indeed a change in coat color.
Blangonga is honestly my favorite of the primates. Might be biased since I started in Freedom 2, but still.
I'd say the same really
My first game was tri, but blagonga is also my favourite of the primates.
Funny how I call Barioth before as a combination of Tigrex and Blangonga...
Although it kinda really is
Blangonga is definitely one of my favourites, though I prefer Congalala. I also started with Freedom 2 and Congalala was my first real monster after Yian Kut Ku. Bulldrome and Giadrome don't count.
Personally I think the primate monsters in Monster Hunter are the scariest thing that exist in the setting, more than any of the fancy lightning wolves or laser dragons out there. Primates can already be terrifying in real life, I can't even begin to imagine how horrifying one the size of an elephant with the claws of an anteater and the jaws of a hippo would be
It'd be cool if a MH game like World manages to make more usually low rank monsters feel that threatening as they should be in real life
Unnatural history: man sad there’s no high tier carapaceon monster.
Shen Gaoren: am I a joke to you?
Well I mean apex level I should add...Shen goes a bit beyond that!
It surprises me how much effort and attention to detail is put into the creatures in monster hunter.
Your videos are awesome, I love listening to them. The biology and ecology of fictional animals is always so interesting, and I think you are one of the best channels for that. Keep up the great content.
Thank you so much, more to come!
I’ve always been a fan of Congalala and Blangonga as a whole. I fondly remember Blangonga as the last major monster you need to fight before facing Tigrex in MH Freedom 2.
"Downward Spiral of Failure" Unnatural History Channel famous quote, cruel yet brutally real in our world, be the tough dogged herbivorous or the top predators, once severely injured or crippled, even if spared, may not have a second chance in life.
Ah yes, the bane of my existence in GU, I like blangonga visually but I despised it so much in my early adventure into the franchise.
Feel I'm one of the few who liked him in combat...
@@unnaturalhistorychannel well I like him a lot more now then when I started. He was my first wall. At least he felt fair, compared to damn cephadrome.
@@hiddenrollcrouchingchin9358 well talking about piscine wyverns will inevitably lead us to hatred.
@@hiddenrollcrouchingchin9358 nothing wrong with hating Ceph though since the only decent Piscines we have so far were all 5th gen newcomers
@@unnaturalhistorychannel I kinda liked him up until I was going back over the village quests to get the Hayabusa Feather and I realised why the game had so many quests. Felt like 50% of them were "Hunt 2 Blangonga Again Lol" and "Hunt 2 Royal Ludroth Again Lmao"
Another really great and fun video. As someone who really started geting into the franchise in the latest patch of games its really nice learning about older monsters like these two and why they are the way they are. Really looking forward to the next one. I will always be amazed at how Weta Digital by all means didnt have to make an entire ecosystem,history,or look at the real world and use good refrences to the point they even added tooth serations on their carnivours in the film,and do things like give centipedes and rodents the role of scorpions and bats,yet they did.
Thank you!
And the Weta workshop has blown me away with how hard they went with Kong especially, keen to dive in.
This is exactly the kind of content I've been wanting to see more of. Really glad I stumbled across your channel. Instant sub, for sure!
Thank you!
13:21
On the topic of that “stinkblight,” there’s an insectoid monster called Seltas Queen who can also inflict this status effect on you. That stink it releases is actually pheromones to attract males of its species as it mostly uses that attack when there’s no male Seltas nearby.
They're "released" in the arena to be slain by new hunters in training and those who seek the thrill of arena hunting and the glory that may come with it
I would have liked blangonga a lot more if he didn't repeatedly back dodge away from my attacks and wipe off my paintballs in MHFU. He was so annoying, but not really that hard, and I really like the design
If nothing else he won't be able to do that with scout flies!
@@unnaturalhistorychannel very true
It's annoying gameplay wise, but its a cool bit of ecology.
I have binged all of your content now and this is definitely some of my favorite types of content when it comes to speculative biology for fictional creatures.
If you're looking for something other than non monster hunter related to dig your teeth into. I'd say looking at the different types of creatures the graboids from tremors turn into over the course of their life cycle would be an interesting option. Since they go from giant burrowing animals to terrestrial to even gas combustion powered flight.
Thank you! The graboids are a good candidate for sure, and one I'll likely get round to in the future.
I want Copper Blangonga back. Always found it the more fun one . Looks great too.
I feel the opposite lol. Give me my mega buff ice baboon, i love him.
I know its not mentioned in this video, but I think my favorite Pelagus monster would have to be Bishaten; mainly because of the fact it _is_ a primate monster. Being based on the Tengu, Capcom could have taken the easy way out and made it into another bird wyvern; but they took the youkai and made it into a monkey with bird elements, and that really makes it stand out compared to the other ape monsters in the franchise. Though just the concept of there being ape-like monsters in a series like Monster Hunter is extremely fascinating.
Well Congalala got bit of a boost recently. Love your content
Thank you! And he really did...
Great video! I learned a lot, just discovered your channel from the Rtatoskr podcast. I would love to see another video like this but on Kecha-wacha and Bishaten since they are the only flying primates in monster hunter (at least as far as I know)
"Everybody gangsta until the fart monkey starts breathing fire" is worth of a thesis just to use it as an epigraph.
Great stuff man! you got my sub! Also spread you to a bunch of other hunters.
Thank you so much!
Great video, definitely gave me some more appreciation for Blangonga which I always felt was somewhat lacking, really great stuff, and it's surprising how accurate Blangonga and Congalala behavior and physiology lines up with real world apes despite the more fantastical setting. Can't quite say the same for their more overrated relative.
And naturally, really looking forward to that next video.
Yeah rajang will be very difficult whenever I get to him...
Thanks as ever, and glad you're excited!
I was eating something while watching the video, and when you said you made a discord I almost choked.
Welcome in!
White Fatalis needs literal red laser thunders and a solar eclispe to mess with the hunter
While Congalala just kills you by throwing his shit at you or farting
who's the apex predator now?
Congalala can also use multiple elements and ailments like Alatreon. Black dragons need to get on his level.
White fatalis should hone its skills at the *hone zone* to train
@@minaashido518 OH YOHOHOHAHA THAT WAS A GOOD ONE
I believe, whilst not likely probable due to anatomy or biology, Copper Blangonga (lore wise) are Normal Blangonga that have lost their troupe and wandered out of the mountains.
I liked the way a friend of mine put it: we cap them and the guild pays us in parts for catching it live, it gets studied then released unless it is especially violent, like a devil jho, and if it cant be released back into the wild you put it down in the special arena.
Great video 👌 looking forward to seeing more
Cheers!
What great timing, yesterday I was able to unlock the congala quest in gen:u! Haven't beaten it yet, though.
Best of luck against the fart monky!
8:36 I think Popos could easily be one of the Blangonga preys, I mean Blangonga could easily puch a Popo to death, maybe Rajang is stronger at punches, but Blangonga can also do that, Blangonga would need the fangs and claws only to eat the Popo.
Also, 8:48 that's a Kelbi, it seems too large in comparison to the hunters, but that's because it's clearly closer to the camera, and it looks like a Kelbi (probably it is even more clear for me, since I've played MH2 Dos and watched that cinematic many times), personally I've no doubts about it.
This has nothing to do with Congalala and Blagonga, I feel that Remobras should be reclassified (again) as Wingdrakes.
Agreed.
I completely agree, and i was hopyng that Rise fix it
We really need these two, in the future games of the new monster Hunter games to come, I Love these two, they're Legends.
I’m so excited!! Let’s go bananas!
wonderfull video as always, for emerald congalala it seems that fur might be green due to an increase intake of more food as the mh4u fur item description says "A new, green pelt that grew back more durable after the Congalala shed its pink fur." implying that as E.congalala are indeed much older males that have better access to food. also im hype AF for the kong video!!!
Another implication at E. Congalala being an older individual is that it has a beard while the normal Congalala doesn't.
@@adamnelson7840 yeah that too
Good catch with that, aligns nicely with the older alpha male theory.
And great stuff!
Love it, keep them coming!
Will do! Bit of a wait for the next one but more are on the way
Just out of curiosity, do you plan on doing Elders as well, or are those too supernatural in nature?
@@davidjosefmaurel2449 I'll get to some elders.
God I love the Emerald Congalala render
14:48 I really liked this part, I'm not able to put it very eloquently but yeah this concept is really cool.
I think a video on where and when humans evolved in the monster hunter series would be interesting
Ah Blagonga. My first 'wall'.
In FU or a later game? Impressive your first was so late!
@@unnaturalhistorychannel I started with Generations, then 4U (before GU/5th Gen). I've stuck with the modern games for a while but have been backtracking (Currently in 3U, ain't touching Rise till I'm done with that).
Love your videos! btw do you ever plan to make a video on elder dragons, or any particular elder, or are they too disconnected from reality to talk about?
Thank you! And I'll cover at least some of the elders :)
Next step from these is the saint monkey himself, and we all know it. Including you 😏
Jokes aside, really nice video about the primate fauna of MH. And honestly your Ice Age theory is starting to grow a lil bit on me, but good thing there’s now the discord for further discussions lmao. And tbh, your explanation on Blangonga almost explains it to a tea. It would make sense they’re original once temperate cursorial primates of the plains and steppes now specialized to the frigid mountains like the Arctic Ridge and such after the decreasing of their ancient steppe biomes. Although I wonder how does Rajang fit into the situation as it’s also a really cursorial mostly carnivorous primate with horns and electrical output…
The angery monky looms over the channel like the sword of Damocles...
And thanks bru!
Everybody gangsta until frenzied congalala starts discharging paralysis breath
I loved this. You won a sub.
Much appreciated!
The best prize in the *claw* machine lol
The quality of your videos is amazing. Good job. What work do you perform with your PhD? (I think you mentioned having one/two in another video) Thanks!
Only a masters thus far, but in ecology + zoology.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel oh wow that’s awesome. Keep it up man
Are you planning to cover also the fish trio? (Jyuratodus, Beotodus and Lavasioth)
Fish is good.
@@chialuenlis5931 Fish are friend not food !
What about Cephadrome?
@@Just_a_Goth plesioth was covered allready but yeah i guess Cephadrome aswell.
@@draw2death421 I know, that's why I edited my comment.
Tbh and idk if this has been said before
But Popos seem like a good source of food for the trope of the Blangong
Give it it big and high in nutrients and such
One would feed the trope well
It just depends if they think it would be a worth while attempt to kill
You should do a video about healing in the monster hunter universe, because taking some herbs and healing from a fireball sounds like something that most animals would take advantage of
Always assumed removing bones and organs from a captured monster implied they got harvested shortly after being captured, which is why you usually get more materials
i want to see blangonga back on a world kind of game, the worl aproatch to monster hunter is so full of possibilities
brw, on the drawing in the 05:18 ... that cat have 0 regrets... *meowyeet
Man now I want a Big angry Carapaceon monster to match with Rajang and Garuga
I wanna see you do a video on the dimorphism of the humans of monster Hunter as there are many notable differences between them like the main land and the island groups as well as wyverians separation from the species
i love this channel game that have the ecosystem like MH cool cause show real like connection too
this absolute chad labeled their entire audience as Alpha Specimens. impressive sir, you just earned yourself a subscrizzle
It's a really interesting thing because the concept of Alphas in real life are a misinterpretation. It was an ecologist's mistake, so its funny how current fiction still sticks to the idea of like alpha animals, its really interesting
the are many alphas in monster hunter
Fanged Beasts hold some of my top favorites. I love Congalalas, Kecha Wachas, Gammoths, and Bulldromes. Their are others but I cant recall em right now
Edit: Volvidon! That's what I forgot.
Ps I consider Paulumu a fanged beast. Though I know I'm wrong but it's a straight up mammalian bat wyvern.
What you said about the pack leaders coming to help their members regards of threat level re industry of shoguns intro to rise, and how Royal Ludroth comes to save the lesser Ludroth from the crab
I know that you seem to have some bias towards Rajang but I would really love an episode on him. The science behind his electrical consumption will be hard to explain but I’m more interested on your thoughts on how an ape can become a competitor with large apex predators like the Bird Wyverns or Elder dragons. I personally love him and hate to see that so many players are just okay labeling him as “BIG LOUD ANGRY MONKEY!” I find his behaviors interesting and worth exploring .
Rajang will probably be covered someday, but I do want more canonical info on him first
that feel when i wanna binge all your videos but i have to go stream MH. XD
I chose primatology for my GE in university just because I love the MH primates like Congalala and Rajang
Since we’ve gotten new information on sunbreak what are your thoughts on garangolem.His design,what we’ve seen of him fighting,and guesses of his place in the ecosystem.And especially him being able to dual wield both fire and water elements.
I, too, am a negative keystone individual unique only in my awfulness.
Ik im probably VERY late, but about the part around 5:49 when you talk about Capcom trying to backtrack on the brutality of captures, considering how in world, after a capture you get more materials than usual (as well as rares), instead it might be the research commission killing an animal once they’re done with it in a far less brutal fashion than a hunter and then picking apart the corpse for supplies and materials.
My favorite "elemental" attacks in these games are, Poison, Mud, and Stench
"No big angry crab"
Shen Gaoren: am I a joke to you?
How I did I just find this channel?!
On the topic of monsters being released. Besides obviously losing their territory if they have one I'm assuming the guild let's the parts(that can) regenerate before then realesing them into the wild
We'd hope, although considering the resources it may take to keep some monsters I'd imagine some larger ones may just keep dumped out quite quickly.
Other than Rajang Blangonga had to be one of my favourite monsters of all time
It makes me wonder sometimes if humanity just disappear would our closest living relative take our place and become like us or something else would happen, so if we have the same idea with Monster Hunter which closest living relative will take our place I'm betting on Rajan 🤔 or would something else beat them in the game of chance and evolution
AND ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO!
Question, does gammoth play a similar roll to blangonga and congalala? since she primarily protects her young and popo from other predators like tigrex and etc
It;s interesting to consider a keystone individual for other species too. In that sense she effectively is.
@@unnaturalhistorychannel I see well then I hope we get an episode for gammoth soon
"Everybody gangsta until the fart monkey starts breathing fire" 😂
Shid. The poop monkey was the wall for me back in mh2p. Idk was my young age, me bad at the game, or the combination of both, but it took me months to beat.
Damn most walls are like a couple days for the stronger ones
God monkè
Do you think you will do one on Rajang? I love him and hes quite the mysterious beast.
Maybe at somepoint but not for a while, he'll be quite a tough one!
Wyverians in monster hunter arnet all related some like barrioth, nargacuga, paolumu, congalala, rajang, blangonga, kirin, azuros, volvidon, lagombi, zinogre and gammoth.
I would like to see congalala return
Agreed!
Pls do Rajang next 🙏
Blangonga would be so much more intimidating if it didn't have the eggplant cranium.
9kay question in the trailer for legend of the guilds we see congalala attack a deviljho, is this most likely due to it being a threat to its female or is this monkey being dumb? Is so natural selection bout to take its course
May have to just wait and see the context behind that one
@@unnaturalhistorychannel Oki
I mean seeing how aiden seemed to in combat with the monke I'm guessing it's most likely a reaction to such a threat
or perhaps from the stress its going through by being hunted it didn't think properly in the situation
video idea. make a video in this style with dragons on how to train your dragon
'Why the red death did nothing wrong'.
Man, that would be really cool to see. Especially with all the dragons from supplementary materials like the cartoons.
Congalalas can swing themselves on vines from some maps
Gojo, are you the top male because you are green, or are you green because you are the top male.
You forgot about Shen Gaoren, the big angry crab.
Will we be getting another MH primate video some time in the future?
Can you do gammoth next?
So...im guessing we might get an addendum due to the New Netflix series?
Well I did just learn Congalala can take deviljho...
You said end game had no big angry crab sadly but wasent Shen Gaoren a Carapecean? Or was he marked as Elder dragon? Either way he is a big angry crab is he not?
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Much appreciated!
Everybody gangster until the fart monkey starts breathing fire got me like yes but yes but no but pineapple
I always assumed Congalala was an alpha female with the smaller Congas being male
Why
Really need more enviroment interaction in the new games , world set the bar too high
"largest of the social species"
royal ludroth: am I a joke to you?
Primates I should have said...and even then I think Cephadrome or Bulldrome are larger than Ludroth. ;)
royal ludroth just got roasted hard by my man
Bugs produces alot
Are you green because your satoru gojo, or are you satoru gojo because your green.