@@parvathidevi9608 NCT DREAM won at an award show and you can see Lucas there standing at the edge among idols alone. Due to his past scandal they prolly cannot interact on cam and it's sad to see him lonely there
@@parvathidevi9608lucas used to be a part of nct before a massive scandal which led to him leaving the group. he recently debuted around the same time as nct dream was having a comeback. nct dream got a win, while lucas was just standing in the back which is absolutely fucking heartbreaking because they used to be so close but now they most likely aren't allowed to interact on camera. it's heartbreaking that he had to leave the group and watch them from a distance
That part where b.i was looking at ikon saying their greetings ahhhh,,, broke me !!!! im glad theyre all still in contact and wishing each other well ❤
@reii842 which is why idols need to adopt western celebrities vibe of not giving a fuck. This is why none of these bs scandals happen in the West. Because the people involved don't care what the fans think. The only time something is serious is if it's a legitimate crime.
People destroyed Hanbins career life... he accepted his mistake and apologized for it and changed himself, but the hate went on causing him to leave his group on his own for the well-being of his group n members 😭💔
@@insomniacskzzthe scandal was either that he expressed an interest in purchasing w33dies or did make a purchase. I’m not sure which one it was, but I always heard it being the intent.
Toxic "fans" just ruining idols lives based on baseless rumours , these people who spread hatred will get it back one day and realise how wrong it is..
@engenes4eternity Mcount down nct dream smoothie won and lucas was there because of his solo performance renegade and the one with hanbin and ikon was supersound festival in Bangkok
They most likely still have some interactions off camera, but I do genuinely think it sucks. Whenever you see groups that have to lose a member not be able to interact or talk with them publicly even though it’s like these are people who have history together like years of training together years of being active as idol together, etc. Yet they’re unable to even order the person’s name or remotely act as a they know them or even still have interactions with them even if they do for the sheer fact that some fans are absolutely psychotic and delusional. Like being a K-pop fan, and having lived through both of these members having to leave their group is wild. Hell they’re not even the only ones I live through so many other ones where members end up having to leave for the dumbest reasons that they didn’t even they shouldn’t have left for and the company should’ve done better at protecting them, but chose not to, like the group don’t talk about that person even though sometimes they’re like the closest person in that group with like everyone and they just cannot their name for whatever reason sometimes companies not allow them legal reasons or because they don’t want people to remember that they were part of the group, which is ridiculous. Hopefully have been changing slightly for the better even though it feels like every time something changes for the better and K-pop with phantoms we take like seven steps back at the same time, but hopefully we can get to a point where things like this don’t have to happen. We’re companies don’t feel the need to have idols standing so far away from each other and not interacting like Lucas isn’t part of the main label anymore, but he still part of one of their sub labels and I highly doubt that he doesn’t still enter the main building . Like HYBE is a giant company that has multiple sub companies yet from what I’ve seen all of the groups from all of the companies, regardless of which company they from they all still enter the main building at some point and they all have dance, practice rooms and stuff in there so I highly doubt that it’s a different in other companies, and he doesn’t still have some form of interaction that we never hear about it or see any interactions for years to come if things don’t change with how fans deal with things.
@@ruchikagupta2555 basically in the first clip NCT dream is winning an award and Lucas is a former member of NCT watching his previous group members. And Ikon greetings while b.i also a former member is on the same stage watching them it's a sad pattern pervious group mates on the same stage as the groups they used to be in 😭
@theycallmelanita he's not a criminal, tell me you don't know the facts without telling me you know the facts 😭 what happened was that he was very open and honest about saeaang behavior and that it's wrong, and one time he even took pictures of one, and that saesang decided to make rumors that he hurt his girlfriends to get back at him, the company kicked him out of nct, but the girlfriends came out and said that none of that was true, and so his name is cleared and we need to stop clinging to fake rumors 😒
Hanbin is for sure sadder, he was the main lyricist and producer of all ikon albums, he worked nonstop for so many years, most of the time he slept on his studio working! I’m not even gonna mention that he was the leader, one of yg oldest trainee, and the insane survivals that ikon participated. Sooooo many years together! It really pains me that he left to protect ikon reputation, just because he bought w333d didn’t even use it, it’s honestly ridiculous. I’m glad he didn’t give up on his music tho. ❤
The saddest thing is some fans do not want the members of nct to interact with Lucas, I think it is a difficult era for Lucas and for nct,Because I think Nct dream would have really liked to share that victory with Lucas, I would have really liked that interaction
@@noonie6024 he was accused of gaslighting by "some of his ex girlfriend" and many things so with that he got on hiatus but in 2023 he or SM announced that Lucas will leave Nct and WayV but I don't for SuperM and now he is back in soloist. You can check Lucas - Renagade MV
@@noonie6024a sasaeng he exposed made lies about him, cheating and ab*se. she ruined his reputation and she succeeded, he was out of NCT. he was also forced to apologize for what he "did wrong"
I feel bad for Lucas. I’m not even a fan but I hope he can continue to move forward with his career. I cried seeing B.I. being on the same stage watching Ikon because he was literally their leader and wrote so many hit songs for them. So as much as I wanted to see them together again, it was painful.
@@noonie6024 B.I/Hanbin was arrested and sentenced for the purchase of drugs (marijuana and LSD). Because of this, he left the group. He still makes music as a soloist and is pretty successful, too.
@@noonie6024 Long story short, he was accused of dating multiple women at once without their knowledge & treating them poorly. Some of the receipts given by accusers were found to be demonstrably false, but others are quite convincing, or at least hard to fake. And to make things worse, SM hasn’t outright denied anything; they only had him apologize.
Explanation :- Lucas (the guy at the back of the crowd) was part of the group WayV and NCT and left the group because of a problem (i briefly don't know what problem) and he is doing solo activities, so during his solo debut his ex group had a comeback, so both of them are in same stage and he is looking at his members from the back . The second guy is Hanbin who is the ex member of the group ikon. He left the group because of drug allegations and now doing his solo activities, and he was also watching his members from a distance. Note :- I'm not a native English speaker so i may have some grammatical mistakes. And also correct me if I said something wrong....
@@kitthecat6543 she should be in jail for as long as possible. In his case I can see why it would warrant removal from the group. Since they also have to protect the interests of up to 40ish people who didn't do whatever he did.
B.I feelings hits different cause there are many unsaid,undone things that was supposed to be cleared before he left but alas all resentment at the end , him being their leader their hit maker the only reason ikon had hit songs was b.i yet the company treated him like shit, didn't even allow members to stay in touch with b.i 😭
They stayed in touch but first the members also had to learn to forgive him. Bobby was the most transparent in saying he was mad at him for a long time but in the end he still cares for him. Yunhyeong is the type to forgive immediately but be hurt from B.i. not reaching out for help from them. Donghyuk, Junhoe and Chanwoo might have been disappointed, Jinhwan would have been heartbroken but the most mad judging by his character. None of them wish Hanbin bad, in fact Junhoe was edited for straight up singing his songs immediately after release. Bobby has nothing but praise and encouragement for him. In the stage Donghyuk and Junhoe looked like they wanted to approach B.i. The most.
@@yadiaag7771 nope they weren't and aren't in touch they have forgotten and forgiven just before his comeback but at that time nobody couldn't help him or even show their anger towards him cause as soon as news broke out hanbin was completely shielded and he himself wanted privacy with all the hates from outsiders. And even now when they have a choice b.i and ikon have decided to lead seperate lives by respecting each other . B.I took the fall for his deeds as he should have irrespective as we know the issue made up was huge then required (people should understand anxiety, depression exist hence idols may fall in for drugs but it was wasn't regular consumption)because of that women but at the end every member felt as they're taking on hanbin's burden which shouldn't be the case they have come to an understanding that's good but it was quite late , they should have been concerned towards him .
How did YG treat him like sh*t? Their CEO even got sued and prosecuted for getting angry at and threatening that chaebol dr*g dealer girl for exploiting BI at his lowest and blackmailing him and other artists.
@@iagreewithyou3478 she deserves that and much more in which YG could have done better , and when I say YG the CEO or selected 1/2 persons don't come in picture. It's whole of YG company who turned their back against him in the end he took the decision of leaving the company for his and their betterment. His teammates,his seniors whom with he was so close to his friends from the other groups of YG all turned away .
@@Gusjbwn6538 How do you know? Do you have his phone records? Like it or not, he did something wrong, violated their contract. It's already YGE's greatest concession that they let him leave peacefully, and not made him pay. They let him keep his brand and rights to his music. And it's always been known that when YG artists leave their company, they make sure that they're settled well in a new company. They make it very easy for their artists to transition. Unlike most companies who blacklist their ex-artists.
I.. can't. I just hope Xuxi is having interactions with them behind the scenes. I hope he is not being treated worse by other members. I just hope he is not lonely..
i feel so sad for them, they're so kind, dedicated, they don't deserve this, I wish the world would just understand better sometimes than hate on kpop idols, its like anything they do is being watched :(( they're also humans.
So many groups. Most of my favorite groups have lost a member. Oneus, Monsta X, Shinee, Astro. With the recent Riize issues, bad fans may get more bold, and I am afraid we may see more groups lose more members.
@@TelAneesHe wasn't found guilty. And There are many idols who hadn't done anything wrong like Garam , Seunghan , Seojin ...but still they are kicked out .
If everyone knows iKON, they will know how heartbreaking that moment was. It’s the biggest heartbreak in Kpop. When you all closely started the dream together, went through all many competitions, then that. What happened to iKON is the main reason why I left Kpop and lost hope in Kpop.
I really hope Lucas will be able to interact with NCT soon. I don't really know how the NCT members feel or if they know more about the situation than we do but I hope that those that want to remain close are able to do so. I'm not sure if Hanbin has been allowed to either but if not I hope there is a time where they can be friends.
Who ever wants to know what happened to ikon is that the group u see in the second clip is ikon what makes it sad is that hanbin use to be the leader in ikon until someone started a rumour saying he was using drugs and illegal stuff and he was seperated from the group Just look at hpw hanbin is looking at them lovingly 😭😭
Looking at this makes me realize I would never be able to watch a comeback schedule where Wonho and Monsta X come back at the same time on the same shows. Putting Lucas in the back was just downright mean.
Lucas in the back does make sense though. The groups nominated for winning are in the front & the rookies are in the back. Lucas just debuting as a solo artist counts as a rookie. Plus I think it's better for him, he already got a lot of hate for his scandal taking attention away from 127s comeback & delaying Wayvs. I can see fans who dislike him finding an excuse to accuse him of "stealing the limelight from Dream's win".
Lets not let this happen to rii7e and Seunghan, please help boycotting sm and riize, unfollow riize official accounts in every platform, don’t stream their music or content, don’t buy merch, help posting everything in social media with the hashtags, sign the petition and help raising funds. We want Seunghan back cause Rii7e is only seven.
one thing i don’t understand is how there are still so many people who dont accept lucas. hanbin came clear, came back as a soloist and his titles like BTBT hit the charts and all, but lucas didnt actually even do anything wrong it’s just SM didnt make an official statement, but he came back and now there are still a lot of people hating on him
The way because of his size people forget he is the same age as Mark. He was part of our maknae line. So sad how people ostracize and bully someone and call themselves the "moral majority/the good guys" It's BS. Not to mention he's still in group with Mark and at the same label. Makes me so mad people are really cruel.
@@isa-cy9ormorals?? he's been proven innocent, get over it. he would not be back in the industry if he was guilty, he'd be in jail or at the least wouldn't have debuted. bullying someone for something they didn't do is cruel. y'all should be focusing all the negative energy on the sasaengs who stalked him and made up lies about him.
I really feel bad for Lucas I mean, it was proven that everything said about him was false He don't deserve this. He is a challenging kid I'm so sick Of haters trying to drag people's career
Same but they still need to make sure this doesn’t happen again to any idol Lucas got kicked out bi got kicked out and seunghan got death threats to be kicked out and now isn’t in the group but will always be in the hearts to true briize and Riize🫧🧡
It's sad because when you think that you were a part of the success when you were just starting. But I'm happy for BI. He made it all by himself. I hope Lucas will still find a place in the industry and people will embrace him as a so artist. He will be forever an NCT baby.
No have u been under a rock? lol a notorious nct/Wayv sasaeng orchestrated the whole thing. The accounts that made the scandal were linked to her acc. Remember the sasaeng Lucas exposed earlier in 2021 on his bubble and exposed her face because she followed him and Wayv members to the restroom trying to take pics? She was that one. He got into an altercation with her and after her pic was exposed I remember fans finding her IG and sending D3ath thr3ats. Her making this scandal was her retaliation
I personally think even if they are separate ways, at least they're still here. I can still heard them, singing and dancing, cause some people can't do that 😢
I literally broken when i saw B.I...i'm an iconic for almost 7 years still suport both of them..but i'm in tears watching this.. i miss hanbin boice in ikon, i want to hear all the song that he made for them❤ i wish i just can turn back time to good old days
Oh god i literally cried . I feel so bad for Lucas . He looks like he is about to cry there on stage. Innocent guy was targeted and they ruined his career to the pt that he had to leave his friends in NCT . Had to start solo . Let's atleast support him in his fresh start 😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@ksjdreams577 see there are jealous people like u who ruined his career . the person who accused him itself accepted that it was all fake . And photoshopped . His renegade mv also talks about people trying to ruin his career and that they are all liers . The only mistake he did was expose the privacy intruder on bubble which he already apologized for but thats also not his mistake
Im VIP since 2012 and never like any other group, i knew iKON since their pre-debut & watched the survival show etc. but never been a fan, but in 2018 when i watched multiple of their variety show, especially iKON TV, i decided to stan. That time, im looking back at how i am not too attached to them in their pre-debut. They're silly, funny, talented and the most incredible thing i found about them was their bond. It broke me into pieces when hanbin left the group, i cried for almost a week. Hanbin is HUGE part in iKON, he was the leader (a really GOOD LEADER), producer, the choreographer alongside donghyuk, the MC most of the time (a good talker), so when he left, Bobby said 'what they (iKON) gonna do without him'. Hanbin is iKON's mind and soul, he's their core 💔 And that's when i decided i don't want to attach to them, neither Hanbin or iKON, bcs up till now, i haven't recover fully, but i still listening to their songs.
I hope things will get better for these K-pop artists I wonder do they have any control at all over their own lives I don’t understand but I guess it’s not for me to understand maybe when these guys go to the military that might be a way to escape from all the misery these young men and women endure but the military might be just as demanding my heart goes out for these young people 😪
Well we don’t know the details, afaik both cases are product of mistakes, some more serious than others, but they did not deserve to be removed from the groups… entertainment is not fair, and I don’t think they give second chances …
oh mann... let's not dwell over the past and support him as solo artist ❤ things happened and if they did interaction, people (mostly Koreans) gonna hate Lucas more. It's for the best for both but it still hurt me to see them like that 💔
Really breaks my heart just seeing this😭 The way both Lucas and B.i were looking at the members🥺🥺 Not that much of a nctzen but I can imagine how it felt to Lucas, he was dreamies' biggest fan after all... And as an ID, it just makes me so sad that Ikon lost its own leader 😭😭
cuma di on camera aja mungkin di balik kamera lucas sama member nct masih komunikasi atau mungkin masih satu dorm sama wayv buktinya kmarin2 lucas nonton konser bareng jisung
I remember once he said to Mark "if I join NCT dream, I would look a like a big tree among you all look like small flowers"... I am crying rn
this was my exact thought when i saw this clip 💔
That was funny, but sad now
@@subakseacan anyone tell me what happened 😢
@@parvathidevi9608 NCT DREAM won at an award show and you can see Lucas there standing at the edge among idols alone. Due to his past scandal they prolly cannot interact on cam and it's sad to see him lonely there
@@parvathidevi9608lucas used to be a part of nct before a massive scandal which led to him leaving the group. he recently debuted around the same time as nct dream was having a comeback. nct dream got a win, while lucas was just standing in the back which is absolutely fucking heartbreaking because they used to be so close but now they most likely aren't allowed to interact on camera. it's heartbreaking that he had to leave the group and watch them from a distance
Hanbin's case is the worst cuz he was ikon's leader and made most of ikon's songs
Can you tell me what happened ?
@@QueenJISOOLAND2013 he was kicked out of the group due to rumors
@@ddark_ffire7647 oh ok
He wasn't kicked out he left because he didn't want ikon to suffer as a group from his scandal. He was a true leader 😢
@@Meeka_Chung tysmn
That part where b.i was looking at ikon saying their greetings ahhhh,,, broke me !!!! im glad theyre all still in contact and wishing each other well ❤
I am sorry I don't know but can u plz tell me that ,was hanbin part of ikon before?
@@srashtirai126Yess! Infact he was the leader the producer of the group😢
@@sm.hazratali9206 oo thanku
@@sm.hazratali9206why he no longer with the rest of members?
@@n.sha.n Nope😢 scandal broke out then he had to leave
In a fansign, Bobby tells a fan “우리 한빈이 잘 부탁해“ which means “take good care of our Hanbin-ie” I’ve never felt more heartbroken 😭
They all miss him😭
didnt ikon leave yg ? if the group members own the IP they can just bring hanbin back on their own
@@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA they could, but the toxic fans would start to act out as soon as they hear a rumor about it
@reii842 which is why idols need to adopt western celebrities vibe of not giving a fuck. This is why none of these bs scandals happen in the West. Because the people involved don't care what the fans think. The only time something is serious is if it's a legitimate crime.
People destroyed Hanbins career life...
he accepted his mistake and apologized for it and changed himself, but the hate went on causing him to leave his group on his own for the well-being of his group n members 😭💔
what did he do
@@insomniacskzzthe scandal was either that he expressed an interest in purchasing w33dies or did make a purchase. I’m not sure which one it was, but I always heard it being the intent.
@@insomniacskzz he bought w33d, that was it. Didn't even use it.
@@harveyism be fr thats it
@@insomniacskzz He decided to leave iKON to not ruin their reputation because he was accused of doing drugs. Which he admitted to.
Aww the "neomu lonely :(" Really hits now...
Noooooo😭😭😭😭
Now it just became a sad phrase man :")
Aww yes l remember that 😢😭
😭😭😭
Stop, this just hurt my heart 😭😭
And the fact that Lucas has been with them for more then 5 years😢
Well in Lucas's case he's atleast still under sm so he can be in contact with his former members
Toxic "fans" just ruining idols lives based on baseless rumours , these people who spread hatred will get it back one day and realise how wrong it is..
Don't worry, karma is a bxtch, she will get them back when they least expect, or want it. She's been doing revenge for me, for years. 😊
💀@@gcarr1089
doesn't put you on a better scale
They don't deserve to be called fans, I mean what kind of fans give so much hate,, utterly ridiculous👿👎
Enough of your stupidity. If he hadn't made mistakes, he wouldn't have been fired. He's not an angel.
This must be hard for Lucas cus he is a huge Dreamies fan 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
can you explain it to me? im new to kpop
@@NCTDREAM_DearDreamhe's no longer part of nct but he's still under SM right?
Yes, he debuted as a soloist under SM just recently @@vk-br1dr
does anybody know what award show the footage is from?
@engenes4eternity Mcount down nct dream smoothie won and lucas was there because of his solo performance renegade and the one with hanbin and ikon was supersound festival in Bangkok
They most likely still have some interactions off camera, but I do genuinely think it sucks. Whenever you see groups that have to lose a member not be able to interact or talk with them publicly even though it’s like these are people who have history together like years of training together years of being active as idol together, etc. Yet they’re unable to even order the person’s name or remotely act as a they know them or even still have interactions with them even if they do for the sheer fact that some fans are absolutely psychotic and delusional.
Like being a K-pop fan, and having lived through both of these members having to leave their group is wild. Hell they’re not even the only ones I live through so many other ones where members end up having to leave for the dumbest reasons that they didn’t even they shouldn’t have left for and the company should’ve done better at protecting them, but chose not to, like the group don’t talk about that person even though sometimes they’re like the closest person in that group with like everyone and they just cannot their name for whatever reason sometimes companies not allow them legal reasons or because they don’t want people to remember that they were part of the group, which is ridiculous.
Hopefully have been changing slightly for the better even though it feels like every time something changes for the better and K-pop with phantoms we take like seven steps back at the same time, but hopefully we can get to a point where things like this don’t have to happen. We’re companies don’t feel the need to have idols standing so far away from each other and not interacting like Lucas isn’t part of the main label anymore, but he still part of one of their sub labels and I highly doubt that he doesn’t still enter the main building . Like HYBE is a giant company that has multiple sub companies yet from what I’ve seen all of the groups from all of the companies, regardless of which company they from they all still enter the main building at some point and they all have dance, practice rooms and stuff in there so I highly doubt that it’s a different in other companies, and he doesn’t still have some form of interaction that we never hear about it or see any interactions for years to come if things don’t change with how fans deal with things.
😭😭😭 why u gotta make me cry like that
I don‘t want to cry alone😭
@@kuebskubsheyy can i please get a shoutout
What's going on?
@@ruchikagupta2555 basically in the first clip NCT dream is winning an award and Lucas is a former member of NCT watching his previous group members. And Ikon greetings while b.i also a former member is on the same stage watching them it's a sad pattern pervious group mates on the same stage as the groups they used to be in 😭
@@angelofdarkness3925 why they left the grp ?
It hits me hard in case of Hanbin. He was their leader....
Sadly lucas and hanbin both are my fav. This video is so heartbreaking 💔 for me
can you explain it to me? im new to kpop
@@talkingtofu both had to leave their group due to false accusations,hater’s attack etc.
@@Sunehraissac what's their older group and whats their new group now? From what Ive seen theres a lot of NCT team? Im confused
@@talkingtofu lucas was in nct , wayv branch of nct . I don’t follow the nct group i only like lucas . Hanbin was in ikon.
Both now active as soloist
I hope xuxi and nct still talk and hang out some times.. he looked sad. :(
In the documentary I think it said he still talks to them. I hope that’s true 😢
the neos don’t have contact with a criminal
@theycallmelanita he's not a criminal, tell me you don't know the facts without telling me you know the facts 😭 what happened was that he was very open and honest about saeaang behavior and that it's wrong, and one time he even took pictures of one, and that saesang decided to make rumors that he hurt his girlfriends to get back at him, the company kicked him out of nct, but the girlfriends came out and said that none of that was true, and so his name is cleared and we need to stop clinging to fake rumors 😒
@@theycallmelanitago and cry.
@@theycallmelanita they go to eat with him and to concerts
and now Hanbin is successfully recognized internationally particularly his solo songs #PROUDofHANBIN
Hanbin is for sure sadder, he was the main lyricist and producer of all ikon albums, he worked nonstop for so many years, most of the time he slept on his studio working! I’m not even gonna mention that he was the leader, one of yg oldest trainee, and the insane survivals that ikon participated. Sooooo many years together! It really pains me that he left to protect ikon reputation, just because he bought w333d didn’t even use it, it’s honestly ridiculous. I’m glad he didn’t give up on his music tho. ❤
There are recently video where Ikon members meet with hanbin.. so happy with their interaction again❤
Can u tell me the link or where it is from?
@@asad.ullah.khan123 sorry mate, i just watch it randomly recommanded by youtube short..
@@farahzin3283 oh okay
@@farahzin3283 Maybe u can find it in ur history?😅
@@farahzin3283 youtube history
The saddest thing is some fans do not want the members of nct to interact with Lucas, I think it is a difficult era for Lucas and for nct,Because I think Nct dream would have really liked to share that victory with Lucas, I would have really liked that interaction
Can you explain why Lucas is separated?
@@noonie6024 he was accused of gaslighting by "some of his ex girlfriend" and many things so with that he got on hiatus but in 2023 he or SM announced that Lucas will leave Nct and WayV but I don't for SuperM and now he is back in soloist.
You can check Lucas - Renagade MV
@@noonie6024a sasaeng he exposed made lies about him, cheating and ab*se. she ruined his reputation and she succeeded, he was out of NCT. he was also forced to apologize for what he "did wrong"
What about the WayV boys whom he lived with for years in China and S.Korea?
@@Fer-mt6yd he can't interact with them too and he leave WayV so now they are 6 members (before they were 7 members with Lucas)
I feel so bad for Lucas.
He was my favorite back in the day and he always wanted to be in Dream 😢😢😢 I hope they could greet each other backstage
I feel bad for Lucas. I’m not even a fan but I hope he can continue to move forward with his career. I cried seeing B.I. being on the same stage watching Ikon because he was literally their leader and wrote so many hit songs for them. So as much as I wanted to see them together again, it was painful.
Can you explain the story?
@@noonie6024 B.I/Hanbin was arrested and sentenced for the purchase of drugs (marijuana and LSD). Because of this, he left the group. He still makes music as a soloist and is pretty successful, too.
@@gemmamoon5998 what abt Lucas?
@@noonie6024 Long story short, he was accused of dating multiple women at once without their knowledge & treating them poorly. Some of the receipts given by accusers were found to be demonstrably false, but others are quite convincing, or at least hard to fake. And to make things worse, SM hasn’t outright denied anything; they only had him apologize.
I rlly didn't understand anything abt the vid until you explained, thanks😗😌
Explanation :-
Lucas (the guy at the back of the crowd) was part of the group WayV and NCT and left the group because of a problem (i briefly don't know what problem) and he is doing solo activities, so during his solo debut his ex group had a comeback, so both of them are in same stage and he is looking at his members from the back .
The second guy is Hanbin who is the ex member of the group ikon. He left the group because of drug allegations and now doing his solo activities, and he was also watching his members from a distance.
Note :- I'm not a native English speaker so i may have some grammatical mistakes.
And also correct me if I said something wrong....
Your English was amazing! I completely understood a d didn't see any misspellings/typos! Good job.
Lucas had cheating allegations, like he cheated on girls and that's why he was kicked out of nct/wayv.
@@kitthecat6543 much worse. He was an underage sugar baby.
@@Zdahszdahs if he was underage, doesn't that mean that the older women should be in trouble and not heat on him?
@@kitthecat6543 she should be in jail for as long as possible. In his case I can see why it would warrant removal from the group. Since they also have to protect the interests of up to 40ish people who didn't do whatever he did.
Hanbin feeling proud standinf there alone. I bet he said "my kids are grow up now"
Felt sad for hanbin 😭😭
No stop cause I've never cried for idols before 😭 its so heartbreaking i seriously cant-
I'm sorry but some fans are ridiculous with their expectations. I feel so bad for them.Lucas is always saying how lonely he feels. 😢💔
I'm afraid that what happened to Moonbin will happen to lucas as well 😢
@@skyzazyl.g.p190leave moonbin out of this.
Enough of your stupidity. If he hadn't made mistakes, he wouldn't have been fired. He's not an angel.
B.I feelings hits different cause there are many unsaid,undone things that was supposed to be cleared before he left but alas all resentment at the end , him being their leader their hit maker the only reason ikon had hit songs was b.i yet the company treated him like shit, didn't even allow members to stay in touch with b.i 😭
They stayed in touch but first the members also had to learn to forgive him. Bobby was the most transparent in saying he was mad at him for a long time but in the end he still cares for him.
Yunhyeong is the type to forgive immediately but be hurt from B.i. not reaching out for help from them.
Donghyuk, Junhoe and Chanwoo might have been disappointed,
Jinhwan would have been heartbroken but the most mad judging by his character.
None of them wish Hanbin bad, in fact Junhoe was edited for straight up singing his songs immediately after release.
Bobby has nothing but praise and encouragement for him.
In the stage Donghyuk and Junhoe looked like they wanted to approach B.i. The most.
@@yadiaag7771 nope they weren't and aren't in touch they have forgotten and forgiven just before his comeback but at that time nobody couldn't help him or even show their anger towards him cause as soon as news broke out hanbin was completely shielded and he himself wanted privacy with all the hates from outsiders. And even now when they have a choice b.i and ikon have decided to lead seperate lives by respecting each other . B.I took the fall for his deeds as he should have irrespective as we know the issue made up was huge then required (people should understand anxiety, depression exist hence idols may fall in for drugs but it was wasn't regular consumption)because of that women but at the end every member felt as they're taking on hanbin's burden which shouldn't be the case they have come to an understanding that's good but it was quite late , they should have been concerned towards him .
How did YG treat him like sh*t? Their CEO even got sued and prosecuted for getting angry at and threatening that chaebol dr*g dealer girl for exploiting BI at his lowest and blackmailing him and other artists.
@@iagreewithyou3478 she deserves that and much more in which YG could have done better , and when I say YG the CEO or selected 1/2 persons don't come in picture. It's whole of YG company who turned their back against him in the end he took the decision of leaving the company for his and their betterment. His teammates,his seniors whom with he was so close to his friends from the other groups of YG all turned away .
@@Gusjbwn6538 How do you know? Do you have his phone records? Like it or not, he did something wrong, violated their contract. It's already YGE's greatest concession that they let him leave peacefully, and not made him pay. They let him keep his brand and rights to his music. And it's always been known that when YG artists leave their company, they make sure that they're settled well in a new company. They make it very easy for their artists to transition. Unlike most companies who blacklist their ex-artists.
"Neomu lonely", that was funny before,but the meme is really hit different now.The real definition of NEOMU LONELY. 😢
Its like when u realize you friend group doesn't care about you then you separate yourself from them but deep down u still love them:(
The ikon one always breaks my heart
I.. can't. I just hope Xuxi is having interactions with them behind the scenes. I hope he is not being treated worse by other members. I just hope he is not lonely..
Ikon never felt the same after B.I left😢 but please do support them both, they are very talented and hardworking boys.
Aww they are there but without their groups
Nct and ikon are my two favourite groups, so yes, I am crying
i feel so sad for them, they're so kind, dedicated, they don't deserve this, I wish the world would just understand better sometimes than hate on kpop idols, its like anything they do is being watched :(( they're also humans.
Stop this is actually heart wrenching 😭
I JUST MISS NCT IN THE ERA OF THE
NCT WORLD...
PLS COMEBACK LIKE BEFORE...
So many groups. Most of my favorite groups have lost a member. Oneus, Monsta X, Shinee, Astro. With the recent Riize issues, bad fans may get more bold, and I am afraid we may see more groups lose more members.
Lucas did not deserve this 😢❤
Enough of your stupidity. If he hadn't made mistakes, he wouldn't have been fired. He's not an angel.
@@TelAneesbut why thry kicked him out
@@TelAneesHe wasn't found guilty. And There are many idols who hadn't done anything wrong like Garam , Seunghan , Seojin ...but still they are kicked out .
im gonna cry bro his face
I can see Haechan looking to Lucas while clapping.Lucas and Haechan are so close it so sad.
Exactly bro. I just hope those ppl who made these bullshit nonsense rumors about him and took his smile and group from him don't have peace either. 😭😓
@@jamalsbutt we just pray to God lah.I hope he can overcome this problem in his life.
@@jamalsbutt do u have proof the allegations were untrue tho?
@isa-cy9or do u have proof that those are true?
@isa-cy9or do u have proof that those are true?
I'm glad to see Lucas with his "Renegade"
Now he is giant tree and gets all attention. ❤😊
crying rn ☹️
If everyone knows iKON, they will know how heartbreaking that moment was. It’s the biggest heartbreak in Kpop. When you all closely started the dream together, went through all many competitions, then that. What happened to iKON is the main reason why I left Kpop and lost hope in Kpop.
It’s heartbreaking every fan out there stream Lucas and b.i’s new songs
I really hope Lucas will be able to interact with NCT soon. I don't really know how the NCT members feel or if they know more about the situation than we do but I hope that those that want to remain close are able to do so. I'm not sure if Hanbin has been allowed to either but if not I hope there is a time where they can be friends.
Sadly Idk if that's gonna happen. He barely interact with other idol on Social Media
i watched this so many times
i can't stop crying help😭
Who ever wants to know what happened to ikon is that the group u see in the second clip is ikon what makes it sad is that hanbin use to be the leader in ikon until someone started a rumour saying he was using drugs and illegal stuff and he was seperated from the group
Just look at hpw hanbin is looking at them lovingly 😭😭
There was no reason to kick an idol out of their group especially when it's not their faults
The moment I got to know B.I left I cried for days💔😭
Looking at this makes me realize I would never be able to watch a comeback schedule where Wonho and Monsta X come back at the same time on the same shows. Putting Lucas in the back was just downright mean.
Lucas in the back does make sense though. The groups nominated for winning are in the front & the rookies are in the back. Lucas just debuting as a solo artist counts as a rookie. Plus I think it's better for him, he already got a lot of hate for his scandal taking attention away from 127s comeback & delaying Wayvs. I can see fans who dislike him finding an excuse to accuse him of "stealing the limelight from Dream's win".
@@DaeDreaming I hear this, that makes some sense. My reaction was mostly imagining my own heartbreak that didn’t happen at all ☠️😭
Lets not let this happen to rii7e and Seunghan, please help boycotting sm and riize, unfollow riize official accounts in every platform, don’t stream their music or content, don’t buy merch, help posting everything in social media with the hashtags, sign the petition and help raising funds. We want Seunghan back cause Rii7e is only seven.
When haechan looked at lucas😢
Looking for lighter went to smoking😅😅
@@WeAreSoOne😐
you know what hurts more? Hanbin and Lucas is both my bias ,the groups I stan will not be the same without them😭
😭😭😭😭I was happy all day
this video reminds me of riize and how seunghan gonna meet them again but as a soloist
I never knew what happened to Lucas and why he left Nct, but seeing this it's really sad because he looks like he's about to cry 😢
me too! I don't follow kpop news too much
@@pinkmango_ I just found it so laborious to know everything about everyone 😅
one thing i don’t understand is how there are still so many people who dont accept lucas. hanbin came clear, came back as a soloist and his titles like BTBT hit the charts and all, but lucas didnt actually even do anything wrong it’s just SM didnt make an official statement, but he came back and now there are still a lot of people hating on him
Next will be RIZZE and Seunghan 😢
AGH... i hate this when kpop idols got pushed away from their members 😢
The way because of his size people forget he is the same age as Mark. He was part of our maknae line. So sad how people ostracize and bully someone and call themselves the "moral majority/the good guys" It's BS. Not to mention he's still in group with Mark and at the same label. Makes me so mad people are really cruel.
cruel for choosing morals? oh ok
@@isa-cy9orgirl what are you on about. Imao
@@ivahtanyi75 she's on morality. Can't you read?
supporting a dozen like lucas is not a good look..
@@ivahtanyi75 the truth ijbol
@@isa-cy9ormorals?? he's been proven innocent, get over it. he would not be back in the industry if he was guilty, he'd be in jail or at the least wouldn't have debuted. bullying someone for something they didn't do is cruel. y'all should be focusing all the negative energy on the sasaengs who stalked him and made up lies about him.
The way tears just started to stream down my face🥲
being able to hear iKON sing love scenario with B.I again in one stage is a dream come true as an iKONIC
You should make an part 2with moonbin😢
Rip our angel fly high🕊️
You just made me cry with your video😭😭😭
i love lucas so much and I will never forgive those people who ruined his life
I really feel bad for Lucas I mean, it was proven that everything said about him was false He don't deserve this. He is a challenging kid I'm so sick Of haters trying to drag people's career
if it was proven false, then he would have never gotten kicked out from NCT. But he got kicked out because he did it! Stop defending a cheater!
@@timaalo154 lmao tf u think u are his mom or smth lol,he left,he didnt got kicked out cuz he is still in the agency ,use ur brain for a second
@timaalo154 what happened
What did he do
If they not gonna clear up Riize problem and make them 7 again !!!, i want Seunghan to be successful like them (hanbin , lucas) one day ❤
Same but they still need to make sure this doesn’t happen again to any idol Lucas got kicked out bi got kicked out and seunghan got death threats to be kicked out and now isn’t in the group but will always be in the hearts to true briize and Riize🫧🧡
It's sad because when you think that you were a part of the success when you were just starting. But I'm happy for BI. He made it all by himself. I hope Lucas will still find a place in the industry and people will embrace him as a so artist. He will be forever an NCT baby.
this kind of thing reminds me of my friend group and school...
i cried while i re-watched the vid and read the comments.
WTH IM HAVING MENTAL BREAKDOWN AND THIS POP UP😢💔
Nooo ikon one hits me so hard😭
This is heartbreaking 💔
Why must you make my cry like this...😭😭😭
Hanbin looking at ikon like a proud dad 😭 but why are ppl sad about lucas, didnt he do smth real bad??
No have u been under a rock? lol a notorious nct/Wayv sasaeng orchestrated the whole thing. The accounts that made the scandal were linked to her acc. Remember the sasaeng Lucas exposed earlier in 2021 on his bubble and exposed her face because she followed him and Wayv members to the restroom trying to take pics? She was that one. He got into an altercation with her and after her pic was exposed I remember fans finding her IG and sending D3ath thr3ats. Her making this scandal was her retaliation
Yes, my iKONIC Heart hurted so much when Hanbin left. Now I‘m just happy that he made it as a Solo Artist!!
Not hanbin 😭😭😭😭 he was a HUGE part on ikon
I personally think even if they are separate ways, at least they're still here. I can still heard them, singing and dancing, cause some people can't do that 😢
Breaks my heart…. Korean judicial system seriously needs a change.
This isn't right, the most heart breaking thing is that we all know one day our favourite groups might not be with us as they might disaband
This is very sad 😭😭😭😭
I literally broken when i saw B.I...i'm an iconic for almost 7 years still suport both of them..but i'm in tears watching this.. i miss hanbin boice in ikon, i want to hear all the song that he made for them❤ i wish i just can turn back time to good old days
Oh god i literally cried . I feel so bad for Lucas . He looks like he is about to cry there on stage. Innocent guy was targeted and they ruined his career to the pt that he had to leave his friends in NCT . Had to start solo . Let's atleast support him in his fresh start 😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭
Didn't he accept that he did it 💀
@@ksjdreams577 see there are jealous people like u who ruined his career . the person who accused him itself accepted that it was all fake . And photoshopped . His renegade mv also talks about people trying to ruin his career and that they are all liers . The only mistake he did was expose the privacy intruder on bubble which he already apologized for but thats also not his mistake
Bro I didn’t even have to see the whole thing bc I already knew where this was going I’m crying so hard right now 💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭
Just tear my heart out
Its 2am why you make me cry 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Im not the diehard fan of them but still this really felt sad and disheartening
Im VIP since 2012 and never like any other group, i knew iKON since their pre-debut & watched the survival show etc. but never been a fan, but in 2018 when i watched multiple of their variety show, especially iKON TV, i decided to stan. That time, im looking back at how i am not too attached to them in their pre-debut.
They're silly, funny, talented and the most incredible thing i found about them was their bond. It broke me into pieces when hanbin left the group, i cried for almost a week.
Hanbin is HUGE part in iKON, he was the leader (a really GOOD LEADER), producer, the choreographer alongside donghyuk, the MC most of the time (a good talker), so when he left, Bobby said 'what they (iKON) gonna do without him'.
Hanbin is iKON's mind and soul, he's their core 💔
And that's when i decided i don't want to attach to them, neither Hanbin or iKON, bcs up till now, i haven't recover fully, but i still listening to their songs.
Now riize too 😭 .... Only sm can do this shi* ....
I hope things will get better for these K-pop artists I wonder do they have any control at all over their own lives I don’t understand but I guess it’s not for me to understand maybe when these guys go to the military that might be a way to escape from all the misery these young men and women endure but the military might be just as demanding my heart goes out for these young people 😪
well, I bet they are still friends... you cant judge this short clip😅
Well we don’t know the details, afaik both cases are product of mistakes, some more serious than others, but they did not deserve to be removed from the groups… entertainment is not fair, and I don’t think they give second chances …
*F. I just got no words. I really hope they still hang out together. Love you Lucas* 🙍♀️💔
oh mann... let's not dwell over the past and support him as solo artist ❤ things happened and if they did interaction, people (mostly Koreans) gonna hate Lucas more. It's for the best for both
but it still hurt me to see them like that 💔
The most heartbreaking thing for me is Jonghyun passing away
And Moonbin...
:((
@@LissetteLissie also that
Really breaks my heart just seeing this😭 The way both Lucas and B.i were looking at the members🥺🥺 Not that much of a nctzen but I can imagine how it felt to Lucas, he was dreamies' biggest fan after all... And as an ID, it just makes me so sad that Ikon lost its own leader 😭😭
cuma di on camera aja mungkin di balik kamera lucas sama member nct masih komunikasi atau mungkin masih satu dorm sama wayv buktinya kmarin2 lucas nonton konser bareng jisung
And they were both my previous biases 🥺🤍
Lucas watching NCT dream 🥺😭😭😭😕💚
Where’s the for those who didn’t know person when you need them 😭
Lucas left nct😢
He had to not choose to
That Hanbin/Ikon situation broke my heart when it happened. So happy they made up and are in each other's lives now!