@hdjono3351 the training environment he fostered definitely had the right results, and thats what matters in the end, but a moment like this shows where his intentions laid. He should have been proud to salute someone he helped sharpen and hone to a great leader, instead he took it personally like an insult.
It's funny how much you can convey with something as simple as a salute, I love when military shows or movies have these little details. Generation Kill was great at having a lot of the little details correct.
Winters in his memoir wrote: I saw Sobel only once more during the entire war while the battalion was stationed at Mourmelon. I had already been promoted to major when Captain Sobel walked past me on a deserted company street. He completely ignored me and continued on his way. After he had passed me without recognition, I stopped, turned and said, “Captain, we recognize and honor the rank!” Sobel stopped, turned, came to attention, and said, “Yes, sir!” We exchanged salutes and he moved on. My revenge was sweet-Sobel’s debt to me had been paid in full!
I had to watch this series a couple of times to catch the significance of this scene. In the first episode, after his reassignment to Chilton Foliat, Sobel is in a jeep that passes Lt. Winters. Winters comes to attention and salutes Sobel despite his dislike of the Captain. A demonstration of saluting the rank, not the man.
@@ownlydown5933 Sobel tried to destroy his career multiple times, primarily because winters was a better leader of men and took to much attention away from him. This little act simultaniously did 2 things: it showed sobel he couldn't be winters, and it showed that winters wasn't willing to go after petty revenge. Winters could have done the chicken shit stuff sobel did, he didn't. he just made him salute, and he even gave him an out, which could also be seen as a burn, by saying "you salute the rank not the man."
Also highlighted by the German general not wanting to surrender to a private. For all the general knows the lieutenant is a "worse" man that the private, but he is such a stickler to tradition and respect that he wants to surrender to someone of appropriate rank. Also notice how he looks at Lipton's rank before looking at Lipton himself.
At the same time, it does serve a role, saluting the rank. Regardless of whether you hold any respect the person with the rank, you show the respect for the rank. It avoids more problems than the disrespect is worth in doing so, and you can make it fairly obvious that you don't respect the person but will show the respect his/her rank requires. I've served under officers who I had absolutely no respect for, but I made sure to give the respect due to their rank (meaning the bare minimum), which saved me a LOT of trouble, given how many of my peers had to learn the lesson of salute the rank, not the person the hard way.
@@jgkitarel That just sounds like a reason why it shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Causing problems where they otherwise wouldn't exist. I understand a need for discipline. But saluting every officer who walks by is just tedium. Saluting at a mass gathering would make more sense. The officers all line up, get their salute, then the commander who whoever is makinga speech does their thing. If anything, the mandatory saluting is probably a contributing factor for how many toxic people get into leadership positions. The MANDATORY vineer of respect. And being able to punish people who wont show it. But hey, I haven't served in any branch of any military, so what do I know /shrug.
Kinda wish they made similar movies and shows from different countries perspectives. Not all US defending the evil Nazis. Polish, Russian, British, French, Japanese, all had more to tell than the few years that America showed up and started out producing everyone
I think Sobel gets a harsher time in the show than the real man probably deserved. The guy is credited with turning Easy company into a very close knit and efficient force, he also whilst harsh in his training did most of what he asked his men to do (so all the hard runs etc.). He also parachuted into D-Day behind the lines and personally led an attack on a German machine gun post taking it out before joining up with the rest of his division. The guy was maybe not the best battlefield commander but still a veteran who served and did his job. He also sadly tried to kill himself in 1970 and failed, blinding himself, and died seemingly alone in a vets hospital, so a man who clearly had his own demons and problems.
The thing is, he didn't salute, which means he was the one who didn't respect him, and the guy just called him out on it, he wasn't the one to instigate it...
@@ConnorNotyerbidness idk if family means anything, people can come from shitty families, so... He could have been an asshole, but I don't think a family not setting up a funeral points to that.
It reminds me of the old joke about the time a sergeant forgot to salute Eisenhower then ran back, saluted and apologized. Eisenhower said ; Sergeant, the Army doesn’t care if you salute a 4 star general, but sergeant, don’t ever forget to salute a 2nd lieutenant.😂
Winston Churchill included this story in a speech given during his post-WWII speaking tour of the U.S.A., re-telling it as Eisenhower had told it to him. A news crew was filming the event - Churchill was receiving an honorary doctorate from a U.S. University. The news film cameraman caught Churchill's delivery perfectly, and the crowd laughing. Part of another speech from that trip used to be on RUclips, but was taken down. Possibly the owners of the rights to these film libraries thought having a few seconds publicly available would hurt future activities. At the time a documentary was on TV that included part of an Eisenhower speech as well as Churchill's famous "Iron Curtain" line. Seems a bit silly - I'd have thought a short excerpt would attract public interest.
Eisenhower got so mad at the German soliders that forgot to solute him that he killed millions of them in concentration camps. Remember kids, always be a bitch!
I had a bad Captain once. And my father told me the same thing. His words were..... "We respect the rank and not the man". How so true that is. I'm 68 now. My dad was a World War II veteran. I never knew that he was in the second wave of Normandy until I was in my 40's. He never spoke of the war. He was my dad, and he was a man from the greatest generation that ever walked the face of this earth. I miss him so much.
The greatest generation indeed, your father was & is a hero, hope he’s resting in heaven or Valhalla or whatever he believed in. Without ppl like him? The world would be a very different place & not for the better.
Great men yes but not the greatest. There were many great men that made this country and faced just as much adversity and evil as your father's and my grandfather's generation.
This "greatest generation" thing is the most american shit i ve heard in my life. Just a way to make you rest asure that your father didnt die just so the rich americans would become even richer... Its been 80 years now, ffs, learn some history...
Actually, one of my favorite lines, in Episode 2, because of the reactions of the men, is 1Lt. Winters' comment to Bill Guarnere: "Oh, and Sergeant? I'm not a Quaker".
In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol in an attempted suicide. The bullet entered his left temple, severing his optic nerves and rendering him blind. Soon afterward, he began living at a Veterans Administration assisted-living facility in Waukegan, Illinois, where he died on September 30, 1987; the death certificate listed malnutrition as the cause of death. No memorial service was held.
Thats bad af . That's 2nd degree murder ,UK it would be culpable manslaughter . Luckily back then our NHS (free health care,to everyone ) was great . But in a v.a. Hospital in yank land (or anywhere) is as bad as it gets.
The General not wanting to surrender to an Enlistedman makes sense. He's officially a commissioned officer of the German Government, and therefore he wants an official commissioned representative of the US Government to take his surrender.
It is understood to have officers save face during war time. Otherwise there rank and file fails and controlling prisoners would be made harder. Keep the peace.
He was fighting for Hitler and world domination along with the Japanese and Italians. He represented all that was evil and was responsible for killing Americans and their allies. I don't give a shit if he quoted Jesus Christ; he was on the wrong side.
@@warringtonfaust1088 Find the mind that wrote the speech, not the orator. Oratory is akin to acting; writers are the ones who put up their mind to work.
@@danielgonzalez7541 I don't know about that company specifically. However - USA didn't have to involve themselves in the European war. Yet they did. The Soviets had to fight, because they where attacked and defending themselves. Remember the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact about Poland which Nazi Germany violated? We, as in Europe, has so much to be thankful for from the USA. Not to mention the aid that "we" received from the president being able and willing to circumvent Congress. So thank you USA and 506:th. Sincere Salute - Form Sweden.
@@peope1976 The soviets won that war. The US role was insignificant, any figures for WWII casualties prove that, estimates for German casualties in the eastern front are 80-90% of total German casualties, and on top of that the most experienced, better trained and better armed troops were deployed and lost at the eastern front. So it wasn't just the overwhelming majority of troops died there but also that the best quality troops died there. What the US excels in is producing propaganda (like band of brothers, saving private Ryan or inglorious bastards) in which they are heroes and played a major role in WWII Europe.
@@danielgonzalez7541 Dude, I'm Russian and you're spitting bullshit. Without the help of allied forces, we would have fucking starved. Yes, my country bled much more, but US didn't have to at all and yet they gave both supplies and people. And we learn this at school.
i spent 8 years in the US Army, to this day i can say with conviction i never had a company or troop(cavalry) commander that i would not look upon with ultimate respect today, maybe i was lucky, maybe thats the norm (i hope its the norm) but i remember every Company/Troop commander by name and to this day i follow every one of them that has a social media account. IYKYK
I don’t think the German general cared as much that it was only a Lieutenant, so much as he just wanted to surrender to an officer rather than some random private.
This is some of Schwimmer's finest work. You love him as Ross, but god, you hate him as Sobel. Look at how he's fighting to stop his eyes tearing up at the shame.
i never watched friends, so all i know is DEEP SEETHING HATRED for him because of band of brothers. which is exactly how you are supposed to feel about him. he nailed it.
100% correct! The new appreciation I had for David Schwimmer and his acting repetoire after Band of Brothers was elevated no end as he played Sobel so well one can only despise the man!
The general portrayed was Theodor Tolsdorff, who went on to be an executive in a Dortmond road construction company after the war. He was one of only 27 awarded the Knights Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds. He was quite a character, having several mistresses travel with him in his HQ, along with a large stash of liquor, tobacco, and porn. The actor who portrayed him (Wolf Kahler) was considerably older (61) than Tolsdorff in the period, who was only 39.
Thank you for this little story who he was. I thought this scene was one the best scenes as it showed there are always two sides of heroes, two sides of victims and two sides pain in a war. They all entered a war and were changed forever.
And Tolsdorff had a serious battle wound on his shoulder, where the scar broke open again, was seriously wounded twice, lost part of his right foot and was also shot in the head and stomach.
@@thelvadam2884 Yeah, but Hugo Boss designed the uniforms for Band of Brothers. (I'm joking guys, please don't repeat this as fact all over the internet, now.)
To me it's absolutely perfect. After all those years Sobel is still a Captain yet Winters is a Major. Just goes to prove who the better leader was and who had more character & integrity. RIP MAJOR WINTERS!!! FLY NAVY!!!
@@AlexVardr he looked familiar, so i looked him up. he has also voiced karl ernst rasch. i was like I know this dude from somewhere else... there you go. his character is also based off of his appearance.
Герои, бля!)))) Просидели четыре года на тропических пляжах Юго Восточной Азии, а когда русские должны были вот вот освободить Европу, они прискакали, героев из себя корчить! Heroes, damn!)))) They sat for four years on the tropical beaches of Southeast Asia, and when the Russians were about to liberate Europe, they came galloping in, pretending to be heroes!
@@crimsoncobalt1232hes dense, the pun is the General didn’t know Lipton had just become an Officer through a battlefield promotion and wasn’t an “Officers Officer” but the General didn’t know that.
I can't tell how much I like this scene when major winters reminds captain sobel of saluting the rank not the man . And you see sobel swallow crow when reminded of it. So many times he jammed major winters prior to him becoming any type of rank. Good.
When I was in the Navy, with my experience with officers, I always saluted the rank, never the man. We were told that the salute was a sign of mutual respect, but I doubted that very much.
I was told it potential originated from medieval times, when knights met....they would raise their visors to show who they were. It's also a sign you don't have a weapon in your hand, which I am sure relieved a few officers I seen ;)
When I was in the USAF, I had the "honor" of giving a tour to one of our Squadron's new 2ndLT's. He told me I was one of the few Sergeants who saluted him, which surprised me. It seems a lot of older Sgt's didn't give much credit to 2nd LT's. The guy had to be no more than 22 years old, but still looked like he was straight out of Jr High. I kind of felt sorry for him, I still had to laugh later though. Poor guy, I always wondered where he went and how he managed in the military.
That's pretty much how we Brits do it, the salute is essentially to the commander in chief, the monarch, and the commissioned officer returns it on their behalf.
When I was growing up there were plenty of men like these around. Willing to share their stories and the bond they had for one another. Soon there will be none left, luckily their story is being told countless times. Bravery in the face of death, true hero’s till the end.
Now they make memes and make fun of men dying for their cause. I don't want to hear about the leaders or the country- many Americans died for corrupt politicians wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam and Korea. But we still should honor those that paid the ultimate price and never came home. Regardless of the colors they fly, as long as they not embody the ideologies of evil. Last time I checked only certain people run around worshiping nazis.
When I was a teenager in the 80's I would sit and listen to an old drunk man tell stories about his survival in the battan death March in the south pacific.. I'll never forget those stories.
This was. A wonderful series. I didn't have anything resembling cable.At the time so I was able to get it from my local library on videotape. I managed to do my work when I get it out of the way because I if I were alright I was working from home. I would promise myself.I would only watch one episode. A day but I couldn't keep myself to that. What a wonderful series and I could watch it again. Of course you probably all know that that gorgeous American officer with the reddish hair is actually british and quite a wonderful actor. But everybody in this was absolutely beyond remarkable. Ross should get more parts like this because he was fantastic. He could be a little irritating on friends but I never hated him as much as I hate it human this mini series
I like how Winters gives a little, but not a lot. “You want to surrender to an officer? Ok, here is a 2nd Lt” while a Major sits in his jeep on the other side of the road. Good stuff
Doesn't matter. An officer is an officer. Of course you would want to surrender to the highest ranking one if possible, but even a 2nd Lt is still an officer to whom he can surrender without losing face.
Damien Lewis. Such a talent. You’d never know he’s a Brit. lol. Great American accents he’s done in so much of his work. Then you hear him on Terry Gross - talking about his RADA years and Shakespeare on stage … and you ask, “wait a minute, Damien Lewis?” Actually rather the same experiences with Dominic West. This is a talented lot. And David Schwimmer - who knew he had this depth of ability beyond “Friends?” Lol.
He was odd for a German officer, Note, no scars on his face meaning he never did the fencing. He never went to university. Most german officers practiced Mensur leading to scars on their face to prove their " bravery" He was acquitted of any war crimes after the war found to have a "clean carrear". And went back to being a truck driver.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 "Most officers" isn't correct. Some did practice Mensur - those who were in certain fraterneties adhearing to imperial prussian traditions - which would be considered ultra conservative at the time. Not necessarily devoted members of the NSDAP , but a lot of them were.
When it comes to officers like Sobel, you'll always reap what you sow, especially when it comes to your professional conduct and your treatment of others, both above and below your rank.
God bless these men. Major Winters was one of many brave men who did what they had to do. I'm eternally greatful for them and the men who fought our wars before them and those who continue today. God bless all of them
I just watched the show for the first time. I am german and i watched it in english. Hearing the general giving his man this speach made me very sentimental. My grandpas brother died in that war, my grandpa was a Flak Helper Boy, my father was a jet mechanic in the airforce, me too now. This is very important history, the whole series
If this is the best scene in the entire thing, I'm really glad that I never sat down and watched it. Into the "fast and furious" box this franchise stays.
Sobel might hav been hated but was a committed soldier who did his duty without fail. Unfortunately his lifes end wasnt as honorable but doesnt change what he sacrificed for our country.
@@jkutyna You think they salute every 0.1 seconds while walking around camp? It was petty revenge to make him salute. Also IRL they were walking opposite directions at night on a street or something and as soon as he was addressed he stood at attention and said yes sir, so it's not like he's refusing his own teachings.
@@Azqalihm I have seen coworkers get sent to mast because he failed to salute an officer on the bus leaving the pier for the parking lot at the end of the workday. Some officers are true dicks and adhere to the rules without question. That would be Sobel in this instance, and Winters merely got revenge upon cpt Sobel BECAUSE the guy was a rules dick. Winters even related the story of the incident and getting revenge on the guy was the only reason he corrected him. Most officers didnt care on pier, and you never salute onboard short of the quarterback and for flag raising and taps. So no, we do not salute constantly, but we do get back at a jerk for being a jerk. It is a case of what goes around comes around.
Band of Brothers is a wonderful historical artifact. I've rewatched it several times. I made sure to watch it with each of my kids when they were old enough.
David Schwimmer was perfect in this role! So little screentime but till this day my blood boils with annoyance when I see his portrayal of Captain Sobel.
You should have included the German general's speech to his men. Very moving, and bears out a truth most seem to ignore - that there were honorable, noble men fighting on both sides in this war. Not all believed in the Nazi party.
'not all believed in the nazis' - yeah! it was only like 98.5%! fucking please, ya some speech makes all the literal evidence go away? The Wehrmacht was HIGHLY complicit, even the most well liked and 'clean' Nazi generals like rommel absolutely were party to war crimes (look up jews being rounded up in n africa, commando order) he ALSO was a literal NSDAP member! The fuck is wrong with people these days, its like the 'lost cause' myth all over again except its all 'steve from iowa' fetishizing dudes who literally were trying to kill steves ancestors TL DR Germans were MORE THAN HAPPY with the Nazis until they lost! Get your head out your ass
Y si lo estaban en el partido era logico defendían sus intereses e ideales nacionalistas, le erraron horrible en matar a la gente judía pero el resto eran unos adelantados y admirados hasta hoy, repito apartando el horror.... 🙌
lots of people on universiteit would be doing the sport fencing, most of time without protection. so a lot of german higher schooled people would have those scars ar trofies..... now in a lot of movies you will see the bad guy with a face scar becous it looks evil.
@@VuurBarbaar all high rank german will spar in a game call Scrimă(fencing) for the privilege to get a scar on the face if they lost, it waz a honor practice to show off they will not cry in pain and inspire a iron will !
Man that Major Winters is the epitome of a warriors warrior. Had the respect of all of his men under his command, effective communicator, and decisive in the heat of battle. Almost too good to be true
That happened for me back in 2012. Mexican housekeeper treated me ( black male) like shit. My supervisor promoted me in a meeting over her. She almost passed out!
that would’ve been gratifying, but maybe it was not in Winter’s character to be that vindictive. This is all the revenge he needed and it was enough to prove his point
Maj. Winters was a class act, he could have gone in hard on Capt. Sobel but he didn't. Just reminded him of what actual courage and leadership looks like with a simple salute.
Best series ever made My wife bought this for me in 2001 after my ankle and knee surgery and it was the best escape that I could have, better than medicine
The Germany generals “ruffled feathers” can be understood, he’s a proud man, he fought, he lost, even though he is the enemy, the war is over, respect for the rank is due.
@@andrewdoddington6939 Proper protocol....note the Prussian heel click rather than a hand salute. One thing I liked about his attitude was be acknowledged Winters as the ranking US officer present, but when indicated to address Lt. Lipton instead, simply turned and did so. No complaining that he was aimed at an officer far his junior in rank...just "yep...that's my point of contact."
@@Flight_of_Icarus then you are still missing the point, yes they did terrible things, but at this point, it was over, this is tradition, as an office you surrender and hold your dignity. Call it the “ceremony of defeat”, the guns have been laid down and the flags are replaced, the canons fall silent, the commander hands over his sword and is at the mercy of the victor
Must feel amazing to outrank your former instructor.
Particularly when he never deserved that rank in the first place.
@@tonyaleman6938sobel wasn’t a good combat leader but he prepared the men of easy for what they were going to face
@@hdjono3351 No argument their. He taught them how dangerous it is to have an incompetent leader.
@@tonyaleman6938 That ranked was earned.. but he definitely didn't deserve any higher than that.
@hdjono3351 the training environment he fostered definitely had the right results, and thats what matters in the end, but a moment like this shows where his intentions laid. He should have been proud to salute someone he helped sharpen and hone to a great leader, instead he took it personally like an insult.
Winter's salute was the perfect "Now gtfo" without saying a word.
Exactly!!
It's funny how much you can convey with something as simple as a salute, I love when military shows or movies have these little details. Generation Kill was great at having a lot of the little details correct.
Proves more that the halo directors and all of em don't know true cinema.
Nope, that's what a lil kid would say, not an adult.
Absolutely disagree. That was a salute full of respect.
Winters in his memoir wrote: I saw Sobel only once more during the entire war while the battalion was stationed at Mourmelon. I had already been promoted to major when Captain Sobel walked past me on a deserted company street. He completely ignored me and continued on his way. After he had passed me without recognition, I stopped, turned and said, “Captain, we recognize and honor the rank!” Sobel stopped, turned, came to attention, and said, “Yes, sir!” We exchanged salutes and he moved on. My revenge was sweet-Sobel’s debt to me had been paid in full!
I had to watch this series a couple of times to catch the significance of this scene. In the first episode, after his reassignment to Chilton Foliat, Sobel is in a jeep that passes Lt. Winters. Winters comes to attention and salutes Sobel despite his dislike of the Captain. A demonstration of saluting the rank, not the man.
@@rleroygordonYes, Winters had class. Sobel did not.
Thats hella Funny tho, the pettieness people can have
I wonder if the Men met again during the Korea Conflict. Sobel would retire a Rank higher of Major Winters. Sobel retired a Lieutenant Colonel.
@@ownlydown5933 Sobel tried to destroy his career multiple times, primarily because winters was a better leader of men and took to much attention away from him.
This little act simultaniously did 2 things: it showed sobel he couldn't be winters, and it showed that winters wasn't willing to go after petty revenge. Winters could have done the chicken shit stuff sobel did, he didn't. he just made him salute, and he even gave him an out, which could also be seen as a burn, by saying "you salute the rank not the man."
*"We salute the rank, not the man."*
Not only was he mocking him, but implying he _never_ saluted him out of respect.
Honestly, I’d missed that subtext completely. That’s a great point.
Big mock?
Also highlighted by the German general not wanting to surrender to a private.
For all the general knows the lieutenant is a "worse" man that the private, but he is such a stickler to tradition and respect that he wants to surrender to someone of appropriate rank.
Also notice how he looks at Lipton's rank before looking at Lipton himself.
At the same time, it does serve a role, saluting the rank. Regardless of whether you hold any respect the person with the rank, you show the respect for the rank. It avoids more problems than the disrespect is worth in doing so, and you can make it fairly obvious that you don't respect the person but will show the respect his/her rank requires.
I've served under officers who I had absolutely no respect for, but I made sure to give the respect due to their rank (meaning the bare minimum), which saved me a LOT of trouble, given how many of my peers had to learn the lesson of salute the rank, not the person the hard way.
@@jgkitarel That just sounds like a reason why it shouldn't be a thing in the first place. Causing problems where they otherwise wouldn't exist.
I understand a need for discipline. But saluting every officer who walks by is just tedium.
Saluting at a mass gathering would make more sense. The officers all line up, get their salute, then the commander who whoever is makinga speech does their thing.
If anything, the mandatory saluting is probably a contributing factor for how many toxic people get into leadership positions. The MANDATORY vineer of respect. And being able to punish people who wont show it.
But hey, I haven't served in any branch of any military, so what do I know /shrug.
that generals speech to his men, so full of dignity even though they had lost he gave his men the respect they had earned fighting.
The general's speech is one of the best moment in the film
@@onisuryaman408 its an episode
Holocaust enters the chat.
@@onisuryaman408 its not a film, but yes.
Kinda wish they made similar movies and shows from different countries perspectives. Not all US defending the evil Nazis. Polish, Russian, British, French, Japanese, all had more to tell than the few years that America showed up and started out producing everyone
I think Sobel gets a harsher time in the show than the real man probably deserved. The guy is credited with turning Easy company into a very close knit and efficient force, he also whilst harsh in his training did most of what he asked his men to do (so all the hard runs etc.). He also parachuted into D-Day behind the lines and personally led an attack on a German machine gun post taking it out before joining up with the rest of his division. The guy was maybe not the best battlefield commander but still a veteran who served and did his job. He also sadly tried to kill himself in 1970 and failed, blinding himself, and died seemingly alone in a vets hospital, so a man who clearly had his own demons and problems.
Well said. You're absolutely right.
The thing is, he didn't salute, which means he was the one who didn't respect him, and the guy just called him out on it, he wasn't the one to instigate it...
By all accounts sobel was a real asshole
His family didnt even bother setting up a funeral for him
@@ConnorNotyerbidness idk if family means anything, people can come from shitty families, so...
He could have been an asshole, but I don't think a family not setting up a funeral points to that.
Dumb.
He got treated like that because he was a pos and a liar.
"Captain Sobel, Your weekend pass is revoked" ~Major Winters
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It reminds me of the old joke about the time a sergeant forgot to salute Eisenhower then ran back, saluted and apologized. Eisenhower said ; Sergeant, the Army doesn’t care if you salute a 4 star general, but sergeant, don’t ever forget to salute a 2nd lieutenant.😂
...especially don't forget to salute a recent Officers School Candidate graduate!!
Winston Churchill included this story in a speech given during his post-WWII speaking tour of the U.S.A., re-telling it as Eisenhower had told it to him. A news crew was filming the event - Churchill was receiving an honorary doctorate from a U.S. University. The news film cameraman caught Churchill's delivery perfectly, and the crowd laughing. Part of another speech from that trip used to be on RUclips, but was taken down. Possibly the owners of the rights to these film libraries thought having a few seconds publicly available would hurt future activities. At the time a documentary was on TV that included part of an Eisenhower speech as well as Churchill's famous "Iron Curtain" line. Seems a bit silly - I'd have thought a short excerpt would attract public interest.
@@flyingbeaver57 Thank you. I was unaware of that.
@KDC256 former NCO officers are the worst. I had a captain who was an E-7 before he commissioned. Giant asshole.
Eisenhower got so mad at the German soliders that forgot to solute him that he killed millions of them in concentration camps. Remember kids, always be a bitch!
I had a bad Captain once. And my father told me the same thing. His words were..... "We respect the rank and not the man". How so true that is. I'm 68 now. My dad was a World War II veteran. I never knew that he was in the second wave of Normandy until I was in my 40's. He never spoke of the war. He was my dad, and he was a man from the greatest generation that ever walked the face of this earth. I miss him so much.
God bless 'em all 🇺🇸
The greatest generation indeed, your father was & is a hero, hope he’s resting in heaven or Valhalla or whatever he believed in. Without ppl like him? The world would be a very different place & not for the better.
Great men yes but not the greatest. There were many great men that made this country and faced just as much adversity and evil as your father's and my grandfather's generation.
This "greatest generation" thing is the most american shit i ve heard in my life. Just a way to make you rest asure that your father didnt die just so the rich americans would become even richer... Its been 80 years now, ffs, learn some history...
“You salute the rank not the man” best line in the whole series. Best mini series ever filmed. Never get bored of it
Actually, one of my favorite lines, in Episode 2, because of the reactions of the men, is 1Lt. Winters' comment to Bill Guarnere: "Oh, and Sergeant? I'm not a Quaker".
Can someone pls tell me the name of the movie pls
Band of Brothers. It’s a 10 part mini series. Best real life drama I’ve ever seen
my buddy from high school and i watch this entire series all day every year on Veteran's day.
@@rleroygordon that one stuck with me too
In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol in an attempted suicide. The bullet entered his left temple, severing his optic nerves and rendering him blind. Soon afterward, he began living at a Veterans Administration assisted-living facility in Waukegan, Illinois, where he died on September 30, 1987; the death certificate listed malnutrition as the cause of death. No memorial service was held.
Horrific.
Shameful.
Despicable.
Hate what we do to our men.
Man that is terrible
Thats bad af . That's 2nd degree murder ,UK it would be culpable manslaughter . Luckily back then our NHS (free health care,to everyone ) was great . But in a v.a. Hospital in yank land (or anywhere) is as bad as it gets.
no veteran deserves this no matter how bad a person they are
When even death laughs at you
The General not wanting to surrender to an Enlistedman makes sense. He's officially a commissioned officer of the German Government, and therefore he wants an official commissioned representative of the US Government to take his surrender.
Yeah, well he can kiss my sphincter! 😁
It was an unconditional surrender for Germany the General had no say.
He's a military man of the German government the same as an enlisted man
It is understood to have officers save face during war time. Otherwise there rank and file fails and controlling prisoners would be made harder. Keep the peace.
@@rettop9757that's not how it works. Don't get butthurt. I did my time as both enlisted and commissioned.
The speech the German officer gives is amazing
It just resonates perfectly because it could have been exactly the same words Winters would have told his men in case the Allies ended up defeated.
History tells us those generals have always been good with speeches.
He was fighting for Hitler and world domination along with the Japanese and Italians. He represented all that was evil and was responsible for killing Americans and their allies. I don't give a shit if he quoted Jesus Christ; he was on the wrong side.
@@kumardigvijaymishra5945 Listen to one of MacArthur's speeches where he speaks without a note. For instance, his 1962 speech at West point.
@@warringtonfaust1088 Find the mind that wrote the speech, not the orator. Oratory is akin to acting; writers are the ones who put up their mind to work.
All the men of E Company 506th Regiment have now passed on. There are none left alive. We owe all of them such an incredible debt of gratitude..
Why? What would anybody owe to Some drafted nobodies that went to France to a war that had already been won by the USSR.
@@danielgonzalez7541 I don't know about that company specifically. However - USA didn't have to involve themselves in the European war. Yet they did.
The Soviets had to fight, because they where attacked and defending themselves.
Remember the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact about Poland which Nazi Germany violated?
We, as in Europe, has so much to be thankful for from the USA.
Not to mention the aid that "we" received from the president being able and willing to circumvent Congress.
So thank you USA and 506:th.
Sincere Salute - Form Sweden.
@@peope1976 The soviets won that war. The US role was insignificant, any figures for WWII casualties prove that, estimates for German casualties in the eastern front are 80-90% of total German casualties, and on top of that the most experienced, better trained and better armed troops were deployed and lost at the eastern front. So it wasn't just the overwhelming majority of troops died there but also that the best quality troops died there.
What the US excels in is producing propaganda (like band of brothers, saving private Ryan or inglorious bastards) in which they are heroes and played a major role in WWII Europe.
@@danielgonzalez7541 Dude, I'm Russian and you're spitting bullshit. Without the help of allied forces, we would have fucking starved. Yes, my country bled much more, but US didn't have to at all and yet they gave both supplies and people. And we learn this at school.
@@danielgonzalez7541 CONGRATULATIONS !!! You have won the Summers Eve Canoe award for this comment thread !!! good job
He's not wrong. You always respect your commanding officer. And you must always give a respectful salute.
i spent 8 years in the US Army, to this day i can say with conviction i never had a company or troop(cavalry) commander that i would not look upon with ultimate respect today, maybe i was lucky, maybe thats the norm (i hope its the norm) but i remember every Company/Troop commander by name and to this day i follow every one of them that has a social media account. IYKYK
I like how the German general was made to ask a 2LT permission to address his men. Very humbling.
He wasn't mad, lol. Winters intended it as an insult but the General did not care and he carried on.
I don’t think the German general cared as much that it was only a Lieutenant, so much as he just wanted to surrender to an officer rather than some random private.
The German general comes off as an already humble man if you watch the full episode.
@@Trotler Its American cinema, Its cringey as shit.
Winter was there to attend, and the General only need his presence as a sign of respect from his enemy.
You lost the war but you're wearing the best uniform
Hugo Boss baby
Clean AF
"Which didn't stop you from getting your asses kicked"
Fr, that Red and Greyish-Black combination was beautiful.
Although Hugo boss made them, actual design was by another, and a lot of effort put into it. The uniforms didn't just happen.
This is some of Schwimmer's finest work. You love him as Ross, but god, you hate him as Sobel. Look at how he's fighting to stop his eyes tearing up at the shame.
i never watched friends, so all i know is DEEP SEETHING HATRED for him because of band of brothers. which is exactly how you are supposed to feel about him. he nailed it.
Unfortunately he played the role so well, its killed his career.
We love him as Ross?
@@sleepingbee8997 nah, he was toxic AF in Friends 👎🏻
100% correct! The new appreciation I had for David Schwimmer and his acting repetoire after Band of Brothers was elevated no end as he played Sobel so well one can only despise the man!
"you salute the rank, not the man." When spoken by such a noble person, it is easily the most powerful line I've ever heard.
David S. Did amazing in this role. If you don’t like him, then he did his job as an actor.
The German general has a jawline like an anvil
Yes, I thought of his jawline too. It's textbook German jawline
Mewmaxxed
That general also played in raiders of the lost ark
It’s his chin
Kruppstahl jaw.
The general portrayed was Theodor Tolsdorff, who went on to be an executive in a Dortmond road construction company after the war. He was one of only 27 awarded the Knights Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds. He was quite a character, having several mistresses travel with him in his HQ, along with a large stash of liquor, tobacco, and porn.
The actor who portrayed him (Wolf Kahler) was considerably older (61) than Tolsdorff in the period, who was only 39.
Thank you for this little story who he was. I thought this scene was one the best scenes as it showed there are always two sides of heroes, two sides of victims and two sides pain in a war. They all entered a war and were changed forever.
DAMN, such a character ! lmao
Well, from your description, it appears they chose the correct actor.
A 39 year old would have appeared to be 61 years old after all of that.
Kahler is well known for portraying the Nazi bad guy in "Raiders of the Lost Ark", where he gets his face melted off.
And Tolsdorff had a serious battle wound on his shoulder, where the scar broke open again, was seriously wounded twice, lost part of his right foot and was also shot in the head and stomach.
Hugo Boss really outdid himself with that German Generals uniform.
no they only manufactured them the design was done by Karl Diebitsch
@@thelvadam2884 Yeah, but Hugo Boss designed the uniforms for Band of Brothers.
(I'm joking guys, please don't repeat this as fact all over the internet, now.)
@@thelvadam2884 Taking in mind that the man himself, Hugo was part of the party. I doubt he didn´t influence the style at all.
@@Krafanio nope he didn't
@@thelvadam2884 Doubt it.
Probably the greatest major and leader of men to have ever lived!! Major winters.. I salute you!! May you rest in peace sir
To me it's absolutely perfect. After all those years Sobel is still a Captain yet Winters is a Major. Just goes to prove who the better leader was and who had more character & integrity. RIP MAJOR WINTERS!!! FLY NAVY!!!
Hah! We have a similar one:
"FLY NAVY! Go Royal! Dig Army. Eat Crab..."
That General's jaw line is stuff dreams are made of.
Wolf Kahler. He's mainly known for his role as Oberst Dietrich in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
@@AlexVardr I thought I saw him somewhere! Thanks buddy.
Teuton , born to mate with Rhine Maidens.
He's a true Jawneral
@@AlexVardr he looked familiar, so i looked him up. he has also voiced karl ernst rasch. i was like I know this dude from somewhere else... there you go. his character is also based off of his appearance.
Grandchild: “Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?”
Maj. Richard Winters: “No, but I served in a company of heroes.”
wasn't him who said it tho, it was a renney who told him he said that
Герои, бля!)))) Просидели четыре года на тропических пляжах Юго Восточной Азии, а когда русские должны были вот вот освободить Европу, они прискакали, героев из себя корчить!
Heroes, damn!)))) They sat for four years on the tropical beaches of Southeast Asia, and when the Russians were about to liberate Europe, they came galloping in, pretending to be heroes!
he was a war criminal
I can only hear PKA Taylor saying this
He sure as hell was one though. 😢😊 too humble here .
General: I WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THIS PRIVATE, BRING ME A HIGH RANKING OFFICER!
Major: Ok here’s a 2nd LT 👍
A 2LT is still an officer and higher than a private he got what he wanted
@@TheKyleCostello I think you missed the joke
@@crimsoncobalt1232hes dense, the pun
is the General didn’t know Lipton had just become an Officer through a battlefield promotion and wasn’t an “Officers Officer” but the General didn’t know that.
@@BBGhost6Well the General likely didn't care about what rank of officer he surrendered to, as long as he didn't have to surrender to a private.
Well it still worked out. coz that 2LT was a former 1SG just weeks prior.
Even 20+ years after it first aired it is still one of the best pieces of tv i have ever watched.
It is truly a masterpiece.
This was just a 100% relief the first time I saw this Band of Brothers series
I can't tell how much I like this scene when major winters reminds captain sobel of saluting the rank not the man . And you see sobel swallow crow when reminded of it. So many times he jammed major winters prior to him becoming any type of rank. Good.
Winters said in his book Sobel’s tough training is probably was so much of his company survived the war.
The Russian army won this war. 3/4 of the German forces were on the Eastern front.
When I was in the Navy, with my experience with officers, I always saluted the rank, never the man. We were told that the salute was a sign of mutual respect, but I doubted that very much.
I was told it potential originated from medieval times, when knights met....they would raise their visors to show who they were. It's also a sign you don't have a weapon in your hand, which I am sure relieved a few officers I seen ;)
When I was in the USAF, I had the "honor" of giving a tour to one of our Squadron's new 2ndLT's. He told me I was one of the few Sergeants who saluted him, which surprised me. It seems a lot of older Sgt's didn't give much credit to 2nd LT's. The guy had to be no more than 22 years old, but still looked like he was straight out of Jr High. I kind of felt sorry for him, I still had to laugh later though. Poor guy, I always wondered where he went and how he managed in the military.
That's pretty much how we Brits do it, the salute is essentially to the commander in chief, the monarch, and the commissioned officer returns it on their behalf.
@@trainerskulb00d that's what I heard also.
Makes sense. If you truly respect the man behind the rank, you'd put more effort and enthusiasm with the salute, I'm guessing?
A soldier should always honour a salute with a salute... Salute🫡🫡
For several reasons, Sobel represents many I have known and encountered.
When I was growing up there were plenty of men like these around. Willing to share their stories and the bond they had for one another. Soon there will be none left, luckily their story is being told countless times. Bravery in the face of death, true hero’s till the end.
I'll never forget the advice given to me by one "Never look inside of a tank". The armor piercing round cannot escape and whirls around.
Now they make memes and make fun of men dying for their cause. I don't want to hear about the leaders or the country- many Americans died for corrupt politicians wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam and Korea. But we still should honor those that paid the ultimate price and never came home. Regardless of the colors they fly, as long as they not embody the ideologies of evil. Last time I checked only certain people run around worshiping nazis.
When I was a teenager in the 80's I would sit and listen to an old drunk man tell stories about his survival in the battan death March in the south pacific.. I'll never forget those stories.
Well Said👏🇦🇺
This was.
A wonderful series. I didn't have anything resembling cable.At the time so I was able to get it from my local library on videotape. I managed to do my work when I get it out of the way because I if I were alright I was working from home. I would promise myself.I would only watch one episode. A day but I couldn't keep myself to that. What a wonderful series and I could watch it again. Of course you probably all know that that gorgeous American officer with the reddish hair is actually british and quite a wonderful actor. But everybody in this was absolutely beyond remarkable. Ross should get more parts like this because he was fantastic. He could be a little irritating on friends but I never hated him as much as I hate it human this mini series
I like how Winters gives a little, but not a lot. “You want to surrender to an officer? Ok, here is a 2nd Lt” while a Major sits in his jeep on the other side of the road. Good stuff
Being disrespectful to other nation's people is one of the traits yanks are the most proud of
Doesn't matter. An officer is an officer. Of course you would want to surrender to the highest ranking one if possible, but even a 2nd Lt is still an officer to whom he can surrender without losing face.
Why does this stuff appeal to us so much? I can’t get enough of this kind of drama.
It's true in every army no matter how old or young the person is, ranks are to be respected.
This show is so freaking good on so many levels. From dialogue to acting to production. I wish we’d get more military shows like this.
What is the name
@@yourgirl6013 Band of Brothers
Damien Lewis. Such a talent. You’d never know he’s a Brit. lol. Great American accents he’s done in so much of his work. Then you hear him on Terry Gross - talking about his RADA years and Shakespeare on stage … and you ask, “wait a minute, Damien Lewis?” Actually rather the same experiences with Dominic West. This is a talented lot. And David Schwimmer - who knew he had this depth of ability beyond “Friends?” Lol.
Damien Lewis! I was in a film with him years back lol
Lots of English actors playing Americans in this show.
Damien Lewis is such an amazing actor. I'm binge watching Billions now. He is such a character..and he's so funny in this series.
One of the most satisfying conclusions to any story art ever put to film.
Such a good series. One of the best of last 25 years.
we owe these men more than gratitude, we owe them the will to preserve our freedoms, and our rights !
The speech the German gave his men was--exceptional. IMHO....
Agreed
He was odd for a German officer, Note, no scars on his face meaning he never did the fencing. He never went to university.
Most german officers practiced Mensur leading to scars on their face to prove their " bravery"
He was acquitted of any war crimes after the war found to have a "clean carrear". And went back to being a truck driver.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 holy shit what stories did he have for the other truckers?
@@jacknapyer oh gets better, the company also ran a bus service... so on off days he drove a bus on the route Diepholz to Hanover
@@jenniferstewarts4851 "Most officers" isn't correct. Some did practice Mensur - those who were in certain fraterneties adhearing to imperial prussian traditions - which would be considered ultra conservative at the time. Not necessarily devoted members of the NSDAP , but a lot of them were.
When it comes to officers like Sobel, you'll always reap what you sow, especially when it comes to your professional conduct and your treatment of others, both above and below your rank.
They will never replace or out do this series!
God bless these men. Major Winters was one of many brave men who did what they had to do. I'm eternally greatful for them and the men who fought our wars before them and those who continue today. God bless all of them
The speech that German general gave was a highlight of the whole series for me. There are heroes on both sides of the line.
I just watched the show for the first time. I am german and i watched it in english. Hearing the general giving his man this speach made me very sentimental. My grandpas brother died in that war, my grandpa was a Flak Helper Boy, my father was a jet mechanic in the airforce, me too now. This is very important history, the whole series
“Heroes” on both sides huh?
nah, no one is hero fighting for the nazis.
@@CompagnonDeMisere25 If you know your history, then you'd know that not everyone who fought for Germany was a fucking Nazi...
@@vicentecamarillo4108 Yes, on "Both sides"...learn your history...scrub.
Honestly, best goddamn scene in the entire show of epic scenes.
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain
And on a Sunday no less. Repent.
@@CubeInspectorCatholic here.
Yes, we must take heed of the Commandments.
Then again, the good Lord is forgiving and understanding.
@@CubeInspector no
If this is the best scene in the entire thing, I'm really glad that I never sat down and watched it. Into the "fast and furious" box this franchise stays.
@@ryanhogge8 too bad you're missing out. And if you had watched the show you'd understand the context of why this scene is so freaking cool
Sobel might hav been hated but was a committed soldier who did his duty without fail. Unfortunately his lifes end wasnt as honorable but doesnt change what he sacrificed for our country.
If that were true, he wouldn't have had to have been reminded to salute by a superior rank.
@@jkutyna You think they salute every 0.1 seconds while walking around camp? It was petty revenge to make him salute. Also IRL they were walking opposite directions at night on a street or something and as soon as he was addressed he stood at attention and said yes sir, so it's not like he's refusing his own teachings.
@@Azqalihm I have seen coworkers get sent to mast because he failed to salute an officer on the bus leaving the pier for the parking lot at the end of the workday. Some officers are true dicks and adhere to the rules without question. That would be Sobel in this instance, and Winters merely got revenge upon cpt Sobel BECAUSE the guy was a rules dick. Winters even related the story of the incident and getting revenge on the guy was the only reason he corrected him. Most officers didnt care on pier, and you never salute onboard short of the quarterback and for flag raising and taps.
So no, we do not salute constantly, but we do get back at a jerk for being a jerk. It is a case of what goes around comes around.
That scene shows how excellent an actor David Schwimmer is. I really admire him for his skills enacting as Sobel.
Band of Brothers is a wonderful historical artifact. I've rewatched it several times. I made sure to watch it with each of my kids when they were old enough.
David Schwimmer was perfect in this role! So little screentime but till this day my blood boils with annoyance when I see his portrayal of Captain Sobel.
Agreed. He did serve his purpose and made E Company battle ready. War often doesn't give second chances.
I also think he was definitely trying his hardest to avoid being typecast as "Ross" in any future work.
You should have included the German general's speech to his men. Very moving, and bears out a truth most seem to ignore - that there were honorable, noble men fighting on both sides in this war. Not all believed in the Nazi party.
I uploaded that one as well, one upload later.
'not all believed in the nazis' - yeah! it was only like 98.5%!
fucking please, ya some speech makes all the literal evidence go away? The Wehrmacht was HIGHLY complicit, even the most well liked and 'clean' Nazi generals like rommel absolutely were party to war crimes (look up jews being rounded up in n africa, commando order) he ALSO was a literal NSDAP member!
The fuck is wrong with people these days, its like the 'lost cause' myth all over again except its all 'steve from iowa' fetishizing dudes who literally were trying to kill steves ancestors
TL DR Germans were MORE THAN HAPPY with the Nazis until they lost! Get your head out your ass
Das Heer, not SS.
Y si lo estaban en el partido era logico defendían sus intereses e ideales nacionalistas, le erraron horrible en matar a la gente judía pero el resto eran unos adelantados y admirados hasta hoy, repito apartando el horror.... 🙌
A small note the German soldier would respect lipton more because of his face scar. They thought face scars were a sign of a warrior.
lots of people on universiteit would be doing the sport fencing, most of time without protection. so a lot of german higher schooled people would have those scars ar trofies..... now in a lot of movies you will see the bad guy with a face scar becous it looks evil.
@@VuurBarbaarexactly , in German that scar is called a ‘Schmiss’ and very much part of life as a student at German universities
@@christelwilk6166 I have heard it referred toas a "Heidelberg scar".
Fencing scars commanded respect.
@@VuurBarbaar all high rank german will spar in a game call Scrimă(fencing) for the privilege to get a scar on the face if they lost, it waz a honor practice to show off they will not cry in pain and inspire a iron will !
"We Salut the Rank, Not the Man" probably the truest words ever spoken. Thank you 💛 for this excellent clip!
"We salute the man, not the rank."
The series is a masterpiece.
One of the greatest series
100% agree 👍
What is serie ?
The major from "Raiders of the Lost Ark"....the General is the EPITOME of Prussian nobility; awesome speech to his men.
Best authentic WW2 series out there! Hands down!
Well not so sure. But it's okay.
The speech that was cut out is one of the best moments in the movie
Man that Major Winters is the epitome of a warriors warrior. Had the respect of all of his men under his command, effective communicator, and decisive in the heat of battle. Almost too good to be true
"You salute the rank, not the man." the unspoken followup was "I always did."
No it wasn't.
And with one sentence, Winters showed sobel how to be a man and a leader.
This is probably the best series of all time I’ve ever watched . God bless our troops.
The way he points and the General acknowledges...
Something most of you can never understand.
Military life is Rank & File.
Even if it was your father who served.
You get it...
I’ve met Babe several times. A true legend
Major Winters just used military protocol to deliver a big FU to Captain Sobel. That just totally proves that RHIP!
Why , I tell all my young coworkers that you never treat people like crap because you never know if one day that person may be your boss one day.
...or just treat them as you'd like to be treated.
That happened for me back in 2012. Mexican housekeeper treated me ( black male) like shit. My supervisor promoted me in a meeting over her. She almost passed out!
Watched BOB again just for the scene with Sobel saluting his former pupil!!
Also, General's speech was very moving!
one of the best moments in the whole series
I always wished that Winters had said "Stand before me at attention.".
that would’ve been gratifying, but maybe it was not in Winter’s character to be that vindictive. This is all the revenge he needed and it was enough to prove his point
Winters make a great salutation, muscles shaking, that’s discipline and humbleness
Ok this clip is making want to watch Band of Brothers again 🔥🔥
Band of brothers is such a fucking good series and super underated
GREAT acting, GREAT series. This is a prime example...
“Your weekend pass to south Philly has been revoked “
Looks like Babe don't got to get inside Doris no more.
What an Amazing Words .... We salute the Rank, Not the men.....
I remember hearing that from my mother. When asked, her only memory of WWII was "We danced".
I especially savour the second 'Captain Sobel!'
If the man has earned your respect, the salute feels multiple.
Maj. Winters was a class act, he could have gone in hard on Capt. Sobel but he didn't. Just reminded him of what actual courage and leadership looks like with a simple salute.
Best series ever made
My wife bought this for me in 2001 after my ankle and knee surgery and it was the best escape that I could have, better than medicine
May have to do with the Prussian officers' code. He may have thought the surrender was, in fact, not taking place by surrendering to an enlisted man.
Great scene about respect and honor on several levels.
One of the best episodes of the whole season
David Schwimmer was incredible in this. I absolutely despised Sobel.
Which means he really did his job as an actor.
Remember when Lipton overheard some soldiers say that either the Germans would get Sobel or one of them would?
Talking to a German general at a surrender after a year of pure hell. So surreal.
One of the best series ever about the second world war.
One of the best series ever about anything...
We missed the excellent “Band of Brothers” speech the general gave his men. It explains the title of the series and nicely ties it together.
La mejor mini serie a día de hoy y con muy pocos errores de equipamiento, uniformes, armamento y rigor histórico
The Germany generals “ruffled feathers” can be understood, he’s a proud man, he fought, he lost, even though he is the enemy, the war is over, respect for the rank is due.
Pretty much he did not even care that he was given a Lieutenant since the Lt. is still an officer and is better than surrendering to a private.
Even the German Colonel saluted Maj. Winters upon surrendering.
@@andrewdoddington6939 Proper protocol....note the Prussian heel click rather than a hand salute.
One thing I liked about his attitude was be acknowledged Winters as the ranking US officer present, but when indicated to address Lt. Lipton instead, simply turned and did so. No complaining that he was aimed at an officer far his junior in rank...just "yep...that's my point of contact."
With the actions of the German army in that war, that trash deserves no respect at all, rank or no.
@@Flight_of_Icarus then you are still missing the point, yes they did terrible things, but at this point, it was over, this is tradition, as an office you surrender and hold your dignity.
Call it the “ceremony of defeat”, the guns have been laid down and the flags are replaced, the canons fall silent, the commander hands over his sword and is at the mercy of the victor
That's the best actor for Sobel 😊
I love the snap in the salute at the end :-)
This is THE single best mini series ever made!
One of the best dialogues.
Liepgotts smirk after this scene is amazing
Boy! Oh! BOY!
Poor Ross can't even 'buy' a break!
“Captain sobel I want a list of 6 infractions you’ve committed during the war on my desk by 0700.”
“Sir what infractions?”
“Find some”