Notes: I made an error describing the CRV7-PG, in fact the seeker is in front of the warhead and not between it and the motor. Some of the rocket shots I used turned out to be mantra. Also, I got the sound effects a bit off and they came out way louder than I hoped, sorry :) Oh and the CF-18 has a Vulcan not a GAU-8. Made this one too quickly it seems
Winnipegger here, I know someone who worked at the rocket plant. He said they never had any unsatisfied customers, the ones who were unhappy were all dead.
Nice video! Another point I noticed, apart from what others have pointed out, is that some of the clips don't show CRV-7s, but French MATRA pods for SNEB 68mm rockets (The MATRA pods have very pointy noses with no centre tube and cropped-cone tail fairings). The still pic of the cammo Harrier GR.3 is definitely using SNEBs: the GR.3 was out of service before the RAF adopted CRV-7 in 1992. The RAF adopted CRV-7 as an Urgent Operational Requirement (fast purchase during a hot war that bypasses the usual procurement BS) during the Gulf War. The SNEBs being used by Jaguars didn't cope well with the switch from low-level to medium-level tactics since they were relatively low velocity with a large dispersion. I read an account by a Jaguar pilot (Mike Rondot IIRC) who said that once they'd got over the teething problems of getting the Jag's NAVWAS to account for the CRV-7's different ballistics, the results were stunning. The fact that it "just went exactly where you put the death dot" meant they switched from plastering a football-field-sized area around the target with a whole pod full of SNEBs to taking out individual tanks with salvos of just two or four CRV-7s.
Once again an excellent presentation! Lots of great video and a no nonsense style with lots of facts and reminders of Canadian aviation history. Can't wait for the next one.
Nice video! I do wonder if those stored CRV7 rockets (set for disposal) can be mounted to something like a SU-25. Because I know of a country that flies that type that could find these useful right now.
@@heime5959 Rocket fuel and high explosive material tend not to be terribly chemically stable. I'm not an expert in the subject, but I'd be real nervous about trying to fire one of those today.
@heime5959 Basically what Booster said. The materials used in the warhead, as well as the propellant, tend to degrade over time. After long enough, the munitions (rockets, missiles) become unreliable/unstable - meaning the munition may not even fire, and if it does, it may end up being a dud with no explosive effect once it hits
Excellent presentation. I had the rare pleasure of watching two CF-18's tear up the aerial gunnery range at the CLAWR back in 1992. The amount of kinetic energy possessed by the dummy CRV-7's was quite incredible, resulting in 'geysers' of dirt being thrown ~50 feet in the air with each impact.
For the algorithm!... Keep up the good work. I appreciate it. I only recently discovered your channel and have binge watched your back catalog. I have subscribed and look forward to seeing more from my fine fellow Canuck.
Excellent video! The pictures and videos you found were really great ... Some are of course well known, iconic pictures, but others, and especially the videos, are either very rare or somehow in any case I'd never seen them! Great job! (The info and narration was great too)
Your videos make me proud to be Canadian. I’m an aerospace engineering student and a member of the RCAF reserve and love everything and all Canadian Aviation!
I THINK the CRV-7 has been discontinued, which is extremely unfortunate for many reasons - with the precision guidance kits now available, they would have made an absolutely fantastic & lethal low cost, air deployed munition
Great video! Only thing for me was the advertisement of the other video, it's good that you show them, but within a few minute you already plug 3-4 of them, and every time you asked the viewer to go watch it if we havnt seen it yet. I think it would make the narrating more fluent if you didnt said it every time, maybe just have the click option with a text box, or at the end you could suggest extra content. good to see leading canadian developpement in aerospace industry! Looking foward to the next one.
Great video, I spent many years molding the igniter cup and tube for the CRV-7. Never say that us Canadians can't compete. I took great pride in my job and loved working with the guys from Bristol.
So has this system now gone out of production? It sounds very popular and the Brit Apaches would still be users wouldn't they? Could it be scaled up to a 5inch/127mm version?
Surprised I didn't comment on this video last August (2023). I've been lucky enough to do some subcontracting work (automation), at the Bristol (Magellan) Rockwood Propellant Plant. Many of rhe buildings from the 60s are still standing, the facilities where all the CRV7s and Black Brants were made.
The CRV-7 was also incorporated into the Multi-Mission Effects Vehicle (MMEV) that was designed in 2005. The MMEV consisted of a LAV III wheeled fighting vehicle that mounted an Oerlikon ADATS turret on which four ADATS missiles, two IRIS-T surface-to-air missiles and two CRV7 rocket pods were attached. While intended primarily intended to be a low-level air-defence platform, it also had anti-armour capabilities as well as the ability to strike infantry emplacements and other ground-based soft and hard targets. The project was cancelled in 2006 and ended up being nothing more than a technology demonstrator.
4:16 ah, a CF-5 Of 419 Moose Tactical Fighter Training Squadron. Photos is probably taken at the Cold Lake Air Weapons Range just north of CFB 4 Wing Cold Lake (same place I was stationed during my time with the 1st Air Maintenance Squadron)
The infamous french test shot. The pilot fired the rocket and it hit the test tower with such force that the testers refused to believe it didn’t have a warhead in it and he was disqualified 😂 The pilot fired the rocket in the same way as the Mighty Mouse rocket so the CRV7 still had a bit of fuel left which went bang.
From Twitter (March 2024) : "The Canadian parliament has called for the speedy transfer of all CRV7 missiles in the Canadian Armed Forces to Ukraine. Canada has a surplus of ~83.000 CRV7 missiles that are due to be decommissioned."
I once saw a photo of a target ship that was attacked with CRV7s. It looked like a cheese grater and would have been a total loss from secondary explosions and fires. I have been enable to find that photo since, unfortunately.
09:38-09:71 = OOOPS! You said that the CF-18 had the GAU-8 Gun!!!! M-61 is more like it. Great video but the small errors like that do reduce your cred.
@@ericferguson9989 The GAU8 was available as an underwing option, but as far as I know, it was never deployed by CF-188 Hornets. If so, please show me some evidence of the CF-188 flying with the GAU-8.
I've been looking around for CRV-7-PG information for a while and I was wondering did they ever mount it on a vehicle or list the vehicles they were proposing it to be used for? I found a few brochures from the mid 2000's but without any luck, except for the MMEV which also didn't enter production/service.
Give. We're throwing them out anyways - actually we're *paying* to have them destroyed. Probably cheaper to put them on a cargo plane to Lviv or Poland.
so i was wondering if you plan to do a video on the canadian BAE hawks, they are not modified much from stock and are pretty much exclusively used for training but it could be interesting
I've got a pretty long list of videos left to make. I was thinking about doing a training aircraft video in which case there would be a section for the Hawk
@@samgeorge4798 Agreed, however, in light of recent events, I wonder if anyone has floated offering them instead to Ukraine? Cheaper than destroying them.
@@williambrasky3891 idk if they have anything that can shoot them. Might be more of a burden. Anyways, knowing procurement it was probably a process to get a contractor to get rid of them. They are most likely well past their time.
@@samgeorge4798 They are unguided rockets... the polish migs they have ″inherited″ can mount nato standard weapons. At that point all that's required is wiring up a simple switch, if for some reason they don't interface.
Rooivalk can be more precisely worded by taking the valk from valkyries, and the "Rooi" (means "red"), make it sound like "row", but with an "i" at the end. More like in Royal, but cut off the "al". No need for the verbal rape, it is not called the Riovac.
The Zuni - official name 'Folding Fin Aircraft Rocket' (FFAR) - is a 127 mm rocket. It was developed after the 70 mm Mighty Mouse - official name 'Mk 4 Folding Fin Aerial Rocket' (FFAR). Yes they made two different rockets with the same initialism and nearly the same name. The Zuni is still produced but the Mighty Mouse was replaced by the Hydra 70, which is basically an American copy of the CRV-7.
This video about to get a few more views as Canada is sending all of its old CRV7 rockets to Ukraine, about 80000, but only about 8000 have warheads so Ukraine will have to make warheads for the remainder. 😀
sounds to me like putting these rockets in ground launchers would be a great way to provide ukraine munitions instead of disposing them. i'd rather they did that then give them tanks the gov is never going to replace. i know they said they would but lets be honest we are talking Canadian gov defence spending here.
I'm against Scrapping the CRV7s, considering they were being used by US F-16s. I think our entire remaining Stores should be sent to Ukraine when the first F-16s arrive.
I'm sure Ukraine would be happy to help Canada dispose of those retired CRV7 stockpiles. Just like how they helped Britain dispose of old Harpoon missiles that were near the end of their shelf life.
Wouldn't it just be cheaper to give the rockets to Ukraine rather than destroy them all? Seems incredibly wasteful. Eighty-three thousand rockets is a lot of rockets. I'm sure Ukraine would be willing to cover the shipping costs at least.
Hmmm because environmental damage maybe? The ocean isn't a dumping ground, it's a massive eco system that we humans are slowly killing and in turn paving the way for human extinction.
Notes: I made an error describing the CRV7-PG, in fact the seeker is in front of the warhead and not between it and the motor. Some of the rocket shots I used turned out to be mantra. Also, I got the sound effects a bit off and they came out way louder than I hoped, sorry :) Oh and the CF-18 has a Vulcan not a GAU-8. Made this one too quickly it seems
Wasn't the accuracy in MOA and not MILRAD?
The idea of a GAU-8 avenger on a CF-18 makes me feel tingly lol.
@@HairyTrigger it would be an - interesting- installation, to be sure XD
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I just have to say Polyus, these absolutely deserve more views and they are completely worth it to the people who have the pleasure of watching them
Thanks!
Winnipegger here, I know someone who worked at the rocket plant. He said they never had any unsatisfied customers, the ones who were unhappy were all dead.
Nice video! Another point I noticed, apart from what others have pointed out, is that some of the clips don't show CRV-7s, but French MATRA pods for SNEB 68mm rockets (The MATRA pods have very pointy noses with no centre tube and cropped-cone tail fairings). The still pic of the cammo Harrier GR.3 is definitely using SNEBs: the GR.3 was out of service before the RAF adopted CRV-7 in 1992.
The RAF adopted CRV-7 as an Urgent Operational Requirement (fast purchase during a hot war that bypasses the usual procurement BS) during the Gulf War. The SNEBs being used by Jaguars didn't cope well with the switch from low-level to medium-level tactics since they were relatively low velocity with a large dispersion. I read an account by a Jaguar pilot (Mike Rondot IIRC) who said that once they'd got over the teething problems of getting the Jag's NAVWAS to account for the CRV-7's different ballistics, the results were stunning. The fact that it "just went exactly where you put the death dot" meant they switched from plastering a football-field-sized area around the target with a whole pod full of SNEBs to taking out individual tanks with salvos of just two or four CRV-7s.
Ah thanks for the insight! I wasn't totally sure when I used that clip but it said it was filmed after the Iraq War. Oops!
83,000 rounds ought to make a fun range day.
donbas is a good range i hear
@@Sir_Godzindeed - they are now to be sent to Ukraine for military use.
Another excellent video good sir. Makes me proud to be a Canadian.
Wow, Turing the 104 star fighter from a one way nuclear attack plane to a ground attack plane. Great video!
The other conventional weapon they adopted at the same time was the British BL.755 cluster bomb.
The cello always gives me goosebumps
Always like information on the aircraft of our northern neighbors. Thanks for your work.
Once again an excellent presentation! Lots of great video and a no nonsense style with lots of facts and reminders of Canadian aviation history. Can't wait for the next one.
Nice video! I do wonder if those stored CRV7 rockets (set for disposal) can be mounted to something like a SU-25. Because I know of a country that flies that type that could find these useful right now.
They are likely in the hands of the Taliban.
say why are they set for disposal?
@@heime5959 Rocket fuel and high explosive material tend not to be terribly chemically stable.
I'm not an expert in the subject, but I'd be real nervous about trying to fire one of those today.
@heime5959 Basically what Booster said.
The materials used in the warhead, as well as the propellant, tend to degrade over time.
After long enough, the munitions (rockets, missiles) become unreliable/unstable - meaning the munition may not even fire, and if it does, it may end up being a dud with no explosive effect once it hits
Excellent presentation. I had the rare pleasure of watching two CF-18's tear up the aerial gunnery range at the CLAWR back in 1992. The amount of kinetic energy possessed by the dummy CRV-7's was quite incredible, resulting in 'geysers' of dirt being thrown ~50 feet in the air with each impact.
This is an incredible piece! Very well done, good sir!
For the algorithm!... Keep up the good work. I appreciate it. I only recently discovered your channel and have binge watched your back catalog. I have subscribed and look forward to seeing more from my fine fellow Canuck.
Excellent video! The pictures and videos you found were really great ... Some are of course well known, iconic pictures, but others, and especially the videos, are either very rare or somehow in any case I'd never seen them! Great job! (The info and narration was great too)
Someday, Gaijin will actually give the real CRV7 rather than the renamed Hydra-70s we have...
The CF-18 does not mount a GAU-8 it has the M61 Vulcan
Ah yes another mistake! Good catch
There's only one plane I know of that mounts the GAU-8. The other examples are all on ships as Goalkeepers, no?
Your videos make me proud to be Canadian. I’m an aerospace engineering student and a member of the RCAF reserve and love everything and all Canadian Aviation!
Thanks!
It seems like every Canadian story ends with an unceremonious disposal. It's like we can't accept success.
Great stuff as always. Glad I found this channel!
What better way to cap off a week on a Friday evening!
Belly up to the bar and turn up the volume.
@7:24 that is my grandfather. Thank you for using his photo again!!!
This was fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.
Without sound it would have been top 10 videos I watched all week. With sound.... Brilliant.
Cheers!
Please never stop making videos, you make the best Canadian content
Huh, I didn't know my company made these before, cool to learn something new!
An amazing video! As a Canadian, these videos put a smile on my face and make me feel proud of the from Canada.
Last time I was this early, I wasn't scared of Canadian bang bangs.
The laser guided version is still under consideration for anti landing craft use on certain Pacific Islands
I THINK the CRV-7 has been discontinued, which is extremely unfortunate for many reasons - with the precision guidance kits now available, they would have made an absolutely fantastic & lethal low cost, air deployed munition
Great video!
Only thing for me was the advertisement of the other video, it's good that you show them, but within a few minute you already plug 3-4 of them, and every time you asked the viewer to go watch it if we havnt seen it yet. I think it would make the narrating more fluent if you didnt said it every time, maybe just have the click option with a text box, or at the end you could suggest extra content.
good to see leading canadian developpement in aerospace industry! Looking foward to the next one.
Fair enough. I find it hard to find a balance for plugging other videos. I'll try to limit it to 2!
Top Notch! Well done again.
Great production! Thank You.
Wow
never knew Canada had a system like the hydra
Great video and detail. Shared with friends. Keep up the good work
Another great video👍, thanks so much.
The standoff is even more important for use with MD light helecopters and suchlike otherwise they would be easily downed by hmg fire
Great video, I spent many years molding the igniter cup and tube for the CRV-7. Never say that us Canadians can't compete. I took great pride in my job and loved working with the guys from Bristol.
Oh cool! Not everyday someone who actually worked on the it watches my video. Glad you enjoyed it
So has this system now gone out of production? It sounds very popular and the Brit Apaches would still be users wouldn't they? Could it be scaled up to a 5inch/127mm version?
Great stuff as always!!!
Great content as usual!
Excellent! Your research and video work is terrific.
Thanks!
Surprised I didn't comment on this video last August (2023).
I've been lucky enough to do some subcontracting work (automation), at the Bristol (Magellan) Rockwood Propellant Plant.
Many of rhe buildings from the 60s are still standing, the facilities where all the CRV7s and Black Brants were made.
It’s nice to see high quality videos on Canadian military history. Thank for your hard work.
Cheers!
@@polyus_studios i miss your videos are you done making them or just taking a break from uploading?
Just taking a break. I've got more on the way
The CRV-7 was also incorporated into the Multi-Mission Effects Vehicle (MMEV) that was designed in 2005. The MMEV consisted of a LAV III wheeled fighting vehicle that mounted an Oerlikon ADATS turret on which four ADATS missiles, two IRIS-T surface-to-air missiles and two CRV7 rocket pods were attached. While intended primarily intended to be a low-level air-defence platform, it also had anti-armour capabilities as well as the ability to strike infantry emplacements and other ground-based soft and hard targets.
The project was cancelled in 2006 and ended up being nothing more than a technology demonstrator.
I hope we get more videos in the future. This channel is fantastic
4:16 ah, a CF-5 Of 419 Moose Tactical Fighter Training Squadron. Photos is probably taken at the Cold Lake Air Weapons Range just north of CFB 4 Wing Cold Lake (same place I was stationed during my time with the 1st Air Maintenance Squadron)
Wonderful slices of Canadiana and very enjoyable short documentaries. Thank you for all your effort!
Glad you like them!
@@polyus_studios Definitely inspired me to spend more time at the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum!
Very good!
I worked at a machine shop that made the fins for the CRV7 rockets.
I've seen a hardened-rod practice warhead bent so the ends touch, just to give you an idea of what that motor could do.
Didn't an inert rocket make a scandal in testing, when it's left over propellant exploded?
The infamous french test shot. The pilot fired the rocket and it hit the test tower with such force that the testers refused to believe it didn’t have a warhead in it and he was disqualified 😂
The pilot fired the rocket in the same way as the Mighty Mouse rocket so the CRV7 still had a bit of fuel left which went bang.
Quality stuff man 👌👌
Ya ya ya keep it up!
From Twitter (March 2024) : "The Canadian parliament has called for the speedy transfer of all CRV7 missiles in the Canadian Armed Forces to Ukraine. Canada has a surplus of ~83.000 CRV7 missiles that are due to be decommissioned."
I once saw a photo of a target ship that was attacked with CRV7s. It looked like a cheese grater and would have been a total loss from secondary explosions and fires. I have been enable to find that photo since, unfortunately.
Great video as per usual.
small error at 9:42 ish you said the hornet has a Gau-8 30mm, which is the A-10's gun, the hornet has an M61A1 Vulcan
I can't like your videos enough.
Very well done! 👍
The CF-18 does not use the GAU 8 Avenger, that gun is only on the A-10. The CF-18 uses the M61A1 Vulcan.
Right, you already fixed that. Good work.
09:38-09:71 = OOOPS! You said that the CF-18 had the GAU-8 Gun!!!! M-61 is more like it. Great video but the small errors like that do reduce your cred.
Maybe it was carried in an under wing pod.
@@ericferguson9989 The GAU8 was available as an underwing option, but as far as I know, it was never deployed by CF-188 Hornets. If so, please show me some evidence of the CF-188 flying with the GAU-8.
@@michaeldenesyk3195 Okay, you got me. I said maybe without looking into it.
Very informarive content, 👍 hats off canada
I've been looking around for CRV-7-PG information for a while and I was wondering did they ever mount it on a vehicle or list the vehicles they were proposing it to be used for? I found a few brochures from the mid 2000's but without any luck, except for the MMEV which also didn't enter production/service.
Cool video and footage.
Great video
Canada should sell these to Ukraine or Taiwan rather than dispose of them
Give. We're throwing them out anyways - actually we're *paying* to have them destroyed. Probably cheaper to put them on a cargo plane to Lviv or Poland.
so i was wondering if you plan to do a video on the canadian BAE hawks, they are not modified much from stock and are pretty much exclusively used for training but it could be interesting
I've got a pretty long list of videos left to make. I was thinking about doing a training aircraft video in which case there would be a section for the Hawk
@@polyus_studios i was asking mostly because i do work with the hawk in moose jaw
yet their is a Canadian paint job
Can you Make Video about CF-18
13:35 What a waste, especially seeing as APKWS is a superb weapon for drones.
Weapons go bad after a while. Propelents and explosives often get volitile with age. They were going to get destroyed anyways.
@@samgeorge4798 Agreed, however, in light of recent events, I wonder if anyone has floated offering them instead to Ukraine? Cheaper than destroying them.
@@williambrasky3891 idk if they have anything that can shoot them. Might be more of a burden. Anyways, knowing procurement it was probably a process to get a contractor to get rid of them. They are most likely well past their time.
@@samgeorge4798 They are unguided rockets... the polish migs they have ″inherited″ can mount nato standard weapons. At that point all that's required is wiring up a simple switch, if for some reason they don't interface.
engagement points
Do you play war thunder? You might enjoy it
I'm here because they just announced the remaining stock is going to Ukraine (though just the motors I guess)
I'm sure Ukraine could find a use for all those _redundant_ rockets.
They’re getting them all as of today!
I thought Canada is sending the remaining CRV to Ukraine with US sending hydra
Rooivalk can be more precisely worded by taking the valk from valkyries, and the "Rooi" (means "red"), make it sound like "row", but with an "i" at the end. More like in Royal, but cut off the "al". No need for the verbal rape, it is not called the Riovac.
Yeah sorry about that, it's a tricky word for Canadians :)
Send them to the Ukraine!!!!!
the same as zuni rockets from battlefield??
The Zuni - official name 'Folding Fin Aircraft Rocket' (FFAR) - is a 127 mm rocket. It was developed after the 70 mm Mighty Mouse - official name 'Mk 4 Folding Fin Aerial Rocket' (FFAR). Yes they made two different rockets with the same initialism and nearly the same name. The Zuni is still produced but the Mighty Mouse was replaced by the Hydra 70, which is basically an American copy of the CRV-7.
This video about to get a few more views as Canada is sending all of its old CRV7 rockets to Ukraine, about 80000, but only about 8000 have warheads so Ukraine will have to make warheads for the remainder. 😀
They are back in service . Canada is sending their stock to Ukraine.
Came here after hearing Ukraine wants these rockets for there front line defense.
Great video, bet Ukraine could help out disposing of the remaining rockets to be decommissioned
These should be in Ukriane now!
Paying for shipping 83,000 rockets to Ukraine, is much cheaper than paying for disposal.
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All the remaining CRV7s should be sent to the Ukraine ASAP.
Ukraine could use this
sounds to me like putting these rockets in ground launchers would be a great way to provide ukraine munitions instead of disposing them. i'd rather they did that then give them tanks the gov is never going to replace. i know they said they would but lets be honest we are talking Canadian gov defence spending here.
I'm against Scrapping the CRV7s, considering they were being used by US F-16s.
I think our entire remaining Stores should be sent to Ukraine when the first F-16s arrive.
I'm sure Ukraine would be happy to help Canada dispose of those retired CRV7 stockpiles. Just like how they helped Britain dispose of old Harpoon missiles that were near the end of their shelf life.
Nothing the S400 cant take down.....
Accept atacms from 1998 apparently given how many batteries Russian has lost and can be seen from satellite photos
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Wouldn't it just be cheaper to give the rockets to Ukraine rather than destroy them all? Seems incredibly wasteful. Eighty-three thousand rockets is a lot of rockets. I'm sure Ukraine would be willing to cover the shipping costs at least.
Why don't they just fire the 83,000 rockets into the ocean or something? Seems like waste to just destroy them.
Hmmm because environmental damage maybe? The ocean isn't a dumping ground, it's a massive eco system that we humans are slowly killing and in turn paving the way for human extinction.
@@johnandrews3568 probably, but the rockets were produced to be used. They are going back to the earth one way or another.
Another well researched production 👏
Destroying the CRV7s?
Send them to Ukraine!