0:00 Introduction 0:12 What is the Eucharist 0:29 Transubstantiation 1:20 Transubstantiation in the Bible 3:07 Reply to Objection 3:34 St. Jerome's Vulgate Translation 3:50 St. Cyprian of Carthage 4:32 St. Augustine 5:27 St. Ambrose 6:00 St. John Cassian 6:49 St. Jerome 7:08 Theophylact 7:33 Summary 8:28 Krunker Montage
A while back a friend said to me how “our daily bread” is referring to the Eucharist but we didn’t talked into the technicalities in Greek. It changed my perspective forever
I went and read the wikipedia article on epiousion, I think supersubstantial makes the most sense out of all of the options, except for maybe "lasting/not running out" which we get from the early translations from Greek into Syriac for epiousion. I'm convinced the Greek word is a neologism, maybe dating before the composition of the Gospels since Greek Christians would have been saying the Lord's prayer before Matthew or Luke was written imo.
Yes supersubstantial is from the Vulgate (authoritative translation of the Bible for Catholics), it's taught in the Catechism, its taught by the Fathers, and it is the obvious reason why a new word had to be invented.
Your videos are so informational and really explain the development of Christianity (and more importantly why Catholicism is true Christianity). Please keep making more!
Great stuff, thanks! Unrelated question, I once recall you had a personal blog on blogspot, it had a few pretty cool articles, including some arguments for Christianity directly from Jewish sources. I can't find the blog anymore - do you have the articles stashed anywhere else by chance? Would love to give them another read
Thanks brother! Yes I had a blogspot, but I took it down because of some errors in my articles. I remade the Jewish article into a video actually, and improved it ruclips.net/video/uxTRj3fWHKo/видео.htmlsi=X3KfhnqyaWvPKh71 I make another blog in the future
Jesus made up that word, not the apostles. There is no evidence Jesus didn't use Greek himself for this use case. It was very common to use Greek for philosophy at that times.
Great video. The only problem is in minute 1:00, where your church imports Aristotle's categories (i.e. accidents) onto a Christian belief. In other words, instead of trying to explain "why" the body and blood still appear like bread and wine, just leave it as a mystery since God didn't reveal why. Aristotle was a pagan.
The concepts substance/accidents are real and therefore there is truth in using those terms. The Church Fathers used what was true in Greek philosophy to describe the mysteries of the faith. In fact even Trinitarian terminology - Person, Substance, Essence, relations - all use Greek thought. Pagans were wrong about some things but still had access to natural truths known by the light of human reason. Our faith doesn’t contradict human reason, rather it is supplemented by it, as truth cannot contradict truth. Therefore it’s totally fine to use true concepts from Greek philosophy
Aristotle is great and I like Aquinas’ use of him. But Aristotle’s categories of substance and accidents says that an accident can not exist without the substance it adheres to. So how do the accidents of bread remain without the substance of bread they adhere to? I think this is a shame for Aquinas to make this mistake.
@@Jiujitsuspecialist I’m open to hearing and understanding how this is corrected. I’m not opposed to Aquinas being correct on this, I just don’t understand how.
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0:00 Introduction
0:12 What is the Eucharist
0:29 Transubstantiation
1:20 Transubstantiation in the Bible
3:07 Reply to Objection
3:34 St. Jerome's Vulgate Translation
3:50 St. Cyprian of Carthage
4:32 St. Augustine
5:27 St. Ambrose
6:00 St. John Cassian
6:49 St. Jerome
7:08 Theophylact
7:33 Summary
8:28 Krunker Montage
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The Krunker was a fun addition to a neat video.
Thanks man. I had that montage sitting in my files for awhile, waiting to use it
A while back a friend said to me how “our daily bread” is referring to the Eucharist but we didn’t talked into the technicalities in Greek. It changed my perspective forever
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I went and read the wikipedia article on epiousion, I think supersubstantial makes the most sense out of all of the options, except for maybe "lasting/not running out" which we get from the early translations from Greek into Syriac for epiousion. I'm convinced the Greek word is a neologism, maybe dating before the composition of the Gospels since Greek Christians would have been saying the Lord's prayer before Matthew or Luke was written imo.
Yes supersubstantial is from the Vulgate (authoritative translation of the Bible for Catholics), it's taught in the Catechism, its taught by the Fathers, and it is the obvious reason why a new word had to be invented.
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Wow this is cool. Never knew this. Thanks for the info!
You’re welcome boss
Your videos are so informational and really explain the development of Christianity (and more importantly why Catholicism is true Christianity). Please keep making more!
Thank you so much, God bless you brother!
Great stuff, thanks! Unrelated question, I once recall you had a personal blog on blogspot, it had a few pretty cool articles, including some arguments for Christianity directly from Jewish sources. I can't find the blog anymore - do you have the articles stashed anywhere else by chance? Would love to give them another read
Thanks brother! Yes I had a blogspot, but I took it down because of some errors in my articles. I remade the Jewish article into a video actually, and improved it ruclips.net/video/uxTRj3fWHKo/видео.htmlsi=X3KfhnqyaWvPKh71
I make another blog in the future
@@CatholicDwong Ah, neat! I missed the video. Thanks! Looking forward to you reactivating your blog!
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Mind blown
Can accidents remain and exist without the substance they adhere to?
@@hjc1402 only miraculously by the sustaining power of God
@@CatholicDwong what does that mean? Do they adhere to the new substance or they really just exist without adhering to any substance?
@@hjc1402 they exist without adhering to any substance and are sustained by God’s almighty power
@@CatholicDwong help that make sense to me, or would you say it’s a mystery of how
@@hjc1402 it’s a mystery by God’s infinite power
Jesus made up that word, not the apostles. There is no evidence Jesus didn't use Greek himself for this use case. It was very common to use Greek for philosophy at that times.
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Great video. The only problem is in minute 1:00, where your church imports Aristotle's categories (i.e. accidents) onto a Christian belief. In other words, instead of trying to explain "why" the body and blood still appear like bread and wine, just leave it as a mystery since God didn't reveal why. Aristotle was a pagan.
The concepts substance/accidents are real and therefore there is truth in using those terms. The Church Fathers used what was true in Greek philosophy to describe the mysteries of the faith. In fact even Trinitarian terminology - Person, Substance, Essence, relations - all use Greek thought.
Pagans were wrong about some things but still had access to natural truths known by the light of human reason. Our faith doesn’t contradict human reason, rather it is supplemented by it, as truth cannot contradict truth. Therefore it’s totally fine to use true concepts from Greek philosophy
Aristotle is great and I like Aquinas’ use of him. But Aristotle’s categories of substance and accidents says that an accident can not exist without the substance it adheres to. So how do the accidents of bread remain without the substance of bread they adhere to? I think this is a shame for Aquinas to make this mistake.
@@hjc1402 I don't think Aquinas made a mistake
@@Jiujitsuspecialist I’m open to hearing and understanding how this is corrected. I’m not opposed to Aquinas being correct on this, I just don’t understand how.
Stick to the Filioque
Do you disagree with Transubstantiation? And is so try to refute anything in this video
"Transubstantiation *in the Bible*"
Spends half the video talking about things outside the Bible
The Church Fathers show my interpretation of the Biblical Passage is the historic Christian interpretation
Bro the Lord's Prayer is in the Bible.
Great video