"We Done With The 90s..."
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In 2050 we will have the same discussion of modern ball
As well we should lol
WE DONE WITH THE 20s 😫
Evolution.
Yup, because players are going to be better in 30 years than they are now. Same reason why 90’s players are better than 60’s players.
And that’s why the whole argument is stupid. People still enjoy modern ball, does that mean that everyone who enjoys it now in 26 years should be considered bland?
This is the funniest basketball trend in so long
Yeah Kenny got caught up in the ppl taking it too serious when it never shoulda been that serious it’s just funny
@@KalenAlmeidaits the internet everyone has a stick up their ass, you didn’t expect people to make this into a beef?
@@tiagogo nah ofc I’d expect it but the rest of us could have fun for a lil while
Obviously we respect what the old guys did for the game but this shit is so funny man then mfs had zero handles
@@KalenAlmeidamad bron fans are taking this as seriously as any other debate
I can imagine in *20 years*
“Omg *Wemby* , the quintuple double He’s the GOAT!!!”
“ *Oh yeah* , well back in my day, *Lebron* would’ve whooped that soft toothpick a new one. “
“ *Shut up* Old head, we done with the 10s.” 😂
And it will be hilarious 😂😂
difference is they played each other. jordan enerv played lebron or anyone like him
@@TheGamingShogun Jordan literally retired exactly one year before LeBron was drafted. You acting like he played in the 1600s or sum shit
@@notexalted800 so he never played LeBron nor did he play in the revolutionary era so yes like I said Jordan never played in the eras LeBron did but LeBron played in the era Wemby did. There's a difference Jordan never played any more than the early point of the dead ball era. He never played in the three point era or the pace and space era
@@TheGamingShogun First of all this take doesn’t make any sense. You’re comparing someone who is playing past his prime and someone who hasn’t even reached their prime in both scenarios. Lebron could’ve retired last year and this wouldn’t make any difference 😂 It doesn’t really matter if Jordan played another year with Lebron or not. Just cause you played through more eras don’t mean shit 😂
The funniest thing about the trend is it’s basically a bunch of people admitting they didn’t watch ball and just argued to argue and now they are watching a very small amount and acting like they are more informed lol
Right now matter how much "film" you watch you as a younger person should be coming from the perspective that i wasn't their I didn't experience it in real time so my opinion only holds so much weight
WE DONE WITH THE 90’S
That's exactly how the media discusses the current NBA.
@@johndavis9321👴🏻 - “you just had to be there”
@@atm2538 bro who is "we" ?
This needed to be said so badly. NBA fan discussions have been so toxic for so long and it's so unnecessary. This doesn't happen in any other sports fanbase, just enjoy the games, man.
it actually happens in real football (I absolutely refuse to say that S word)... but people seems to be more polite about it lol
@@pedromarco6528Blud that shi dont happen in football legends like joe montana and barry sanders are always respected no cap
@@FireAttack0811He said real football, he meant soccer. Edit: for context, there's a pretty identical stupid debate that happens in football between Messi and Ronaldo.
@@ctoaun23 You talking about that flopping sport?
@@FireAttack0811 Yeah, the one where they all time waste because they timekeep with a sundial and roll around to get freekicks. You know, real football.
100% agree Kenny, as fans we just need to enjoy basketball, cheer for our favorite teams, players, and just have fun. No need for heated arguments.
I disagree, Its a competitive sport. Players are going to be compared. Kenny ofc aint gonna discredit the 90s. Bulls legacy is on the line
You people only say this when people start disrespecting you're favorite players
@@spicyshizz2850 facts cant say why have a debate and be completely bias 😂
The funny thing is MJ average 37 a game without a left. He would average 50 with both hands, damn that's why MJ will forver be the GOAT.
I also agree with Kenny
I feel like this trend is less about the actual quality of basketball and more about the fact that people don't watch full games anymore, completely normal plays that still happen today are used to discredit the 80's and 90's.
Highlight culture has conditioned many young people to think that every possession ends with a good shot.
Another point is that basketball is constantly changing, if you watch a game from today then watch one from 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 15, 20, etc. each one is gonna look completely different from the ones before and after. The pick and roll craze 3-6 years back looks ridiculous in hindsight the same way the iso heavy 2000's or pass heavy offenses of the early 20th century look compared to now.
We really need to start appreciating greatness in context.
Exactly. Jordan flourishing during a time where physicality was at an all-time high and doing it with finesse, AMAZING.
Kobe dominating while barely passing the ball during an isolation-heavy era, AMAZING.
LeBron dominating during a superteam and three-point heavy era and never being injured, AMAZING.
The tribalism present in basketball is ridiculous. People need to enjoy basketball for what is. Younger people need to realize the context in which older players played and why it was so impressive, and older people need to realize the game evolves and changes. Who you might think is a fraud now you can appreciate 20 years from now when the game is entirely different. Let go of your biases and enjoy things for what they are.
You don’t have to discredit everybody else to justify the player that you like the most.
Love this comment. i still watch back great games from every era and it's all the same to me aka competition at highest level. Jordan and Barkley at the end of a deep 1993 postseason leaving it on the court gives me the same enjoyment as Warriors/Cavs in 2016 or a 135-134 playoff game today would.
@@Odysseus1999 objectively speaking though what lebron is doing is less amazing then the other 2. lebron is better player then kobe but what kobe did under his limits is more goat like. we will never get to see what lebron would of been like in kobes era (enforced rules era) so he can never be the goat.
@@johnmarkson1998Kobe isn't in Goat debate though
@@fica1137 i know but im saying his dribbling with no cupping/traveling and IQ is just insane. he had to do things in limits that modern players would die under. he aint the goat cause MJ did everything kobe did but better.
I feel like this trend stems more from the old heads exaggerating things. Like the physicality/defense.
@devorembo yall young cats are goofy all yall do is chuck up 3s and play zero defense, the 90s was tough physical
@@darnellwilliams8783 his point exactly 😂 we done with the 90s unc
@@darnellwilliams8783 and hella of them boy were juiced up or on coke , gosh the 90s was the best ..
@@darnellwilliams8783 thanks for bringing my point to life
right, like of course players from the 90s didn't suck the way this trend implies, but old heads act like it was some mythical era where everyone was 4x as good as the best players today, and "you didn't get foul calls when people punched you in the face, you just kept playing" when in reality stars got the same calls they do today, and the game was not nearly as developed as it is today
Allen Iverson saying he'd average over 40 and shaq always promoting the 90's was the kindling.
Yea, Shaqs really annoying about that. Dude unironically thinks Robert Horry belongs in the Hall of fame.
He also thinks he could stop Jokic when he couldnt even stop David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon.@@theGDmenace13
The original creator is named Mike Peek. He made every "we done with the 90s" video on Yooreactions page.
tell em!
Facts yo reactions was stealin
frr spread this shit yooreaction a fraud
Comment need to be pinned
WE DONE WITH YOOREACTION
That highlight reel of jordan left hand is pure comedy 😂😂😂 just like how those 90s compilations of "tough" basketball shouldn't be paraded about as pure basketball
Hater alert 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
loved this (bc im also a 90s baby 😂) and i had the same reaction! I think both new and old generations are missing the point people are SUPPOSED to be better now. The new gen has learned and grown from the greats of the old gen
Absolutely!!!
1000 percent!
Yes. But the old heads keep on telling us that we are worse or that their greats would dominate today.
Mj is the goat but lets not act like he had the good handle. He had counters for his flaws but still had flaws.
Put him on a trash team, push him left, and have bigs ready to clobber him, be ready to collapse on him and he will not make the playoffs. That's normal for most right-handed players.
@@ThoseRedPillGuys Jordan did have a handle tho he js didn’t do many dribbles later into his career bc it wasn’t efficient. Same thing with Kobe
and young people constantly say todays players would smoke old ones both as bad as one another. But MJ is the G.O.A.T regardless of era and im 24@@ThoseRedPillGuys
this debate has gotten out of control
There is no debate. Lebron fans know Jordan is better so they are trying to discredit everything around MJ. Man vs man it's not close. It's like having a beef with someone and then going to beat up his lil brother instead of the person you have an issue with
@@mf3799bro you’re so brainwashed
@@mf3799u are the problem 😂
@@mf3799You’re literally the people that Kenny was talking about… 🤦🏽♂️
MJ GOAT no debate
Jordan really played with plumbers and mailmen
Lebron really played with podcasters and twitch streamers
Mfs funny asl 😂😂😂😂😂
nah bron playing as the flopper,
Nah Bron playing with homosexuals
I agree with you 100%. As a Celtics fan, people discredit Bill and all those 60’s rings a lot. And I always say why does it matter when you win them, it was a different era back then but that doesn’t change how dominant Bill and his team were in his era.
This one bothers me more than MJ hate. There are so many awful things bill had to endure during his career. Not being allowed to eat, sleep or travel with the team. He fought alongside Muhammad Ali for civil rights. He fought for players to be paid more so they did not need a second job. And he did it all with the biggest smile and best laugh. To hear him called a plumber breaks my heart. Oh yeah and 11 rings. Different era, different game, way before my time but the respect and reverence I have for that man is unmatched
@@badat2k191 it’s weird because it’s not like this in other sports. People respect Maradona and what he did for the game of football. They don’t care that he played in a different era. Why does it apply to basketball but not other sports. Weird ass fans
@@celticsin4It absolutely happens in other sports. How many NFL fans have Johnny Unitas in their top 10?
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 don’t watch NFL so wouldn’t know but I know for a fact that people have Maradonna in their top 5’s and no one disrespects him for playing in a “weaker” era.
I kind of am one of those dudes who discredits those rings but not from when they won them but how they won them, there were only 8-14 teams at the time if I’m not mistaken which is my reasoning but bill Russell is one of the all time greats I’ll always respect and he is a t10 player in nba history imo
IMO, as Long as u got MJ or Bron at #1, I can’t disagree with u. It comes down to whether u value Longevity, or peak. How good someone was at the height of their powers, or how long someone was at the peak of their powers for. If I got anyone else as the goat, ur trippin
This the correct take
Kobe goat
This is the Perfect take
@@probablyyourdadnot top 5
@@TheMissiIeKobe's my favorite player ever - he's only top 7-8 at best.
Man look at kenny so inspirational
The problem I have with most arguments about older generations of sports is that the main jist of the argument stems from claiming that there's a lack of "physicality" in modern sports, which can be all in the eye of the beholder.
Just because a sport doesn't allow you to borderline assault someone and get away with it doesn't mean that the sport is any less physical, and YES that is what I am talking about here. I'm not talking about the modern petty fouls that would have flown in the 90s, I am specifically talking about grown men who are complaining that sports were "real" when there was overall more violence.
Like, it's a team game that was invented by some dudes in the YMCA.
If you desperately *need* to see sweaty grown men rub against eachother to reaffirm your own masculinity, I am sure there are other types of media that would satisfy that urge🤷♂️🤷♂️
Get what you’re saying but this era is softer mentality and physically while they have gone up in strength and skill.
Been saying it for years; if you actually watch the tape, it disproves so much of the myths from the 80s and 90s.
Oh indeed, dw the oldheads wear the rose tinted glasses all the time
Can’t wait for the kids to say the same thing about us in 10-15 years 😂
It’s so satisfying watching these old heads cry like these games are not ANY more physical at all
@@BigPurp9 Shits gone be tragic, we were slow asf it took us over two decades
@@BigPurp9facts it’ll be fun, but honestly it’s gonna be less to expose simply because this era is in the social media and internet era. Fans hyper analyze and discredit the current players in real time rn 💀
That right hand bandit!!
This has gotten outta hand, its starting to deadass become cringe at this point
Cringe
@@YEGGS_1 unless you're gonna tell everyone that calls luka daddy cringe shut tf up this is nothing compared to luka fanboys hyping up his losing record against decent nba teams that is fucking cringe this is just simply the truth 🤷🏼♂️
taking it so serious lmfao, relax
@@YEGGS_1keep coping. MJ is literally Jaylen Brown without a 3pt shot 😂
I do find the trend funny to humble the old heads but nobody should take it too seriously
I honestly don’t get how people watch those clips and take it seriously. Dudes cracking jokes the entire time
Yeah we're humbled, Dude average 37 a game without a left. He would average 50 with both hands, damn that's why MJ will forver be the GOAT.
@@ND-OPS and here you are taking it too seriously when he said no one should LOL
@@Bdonlee15 old heads are sensitive about their era. they see the act of even joking about it as severe disrespect and will spend the rest of the knight aruging with a 13 year old little girl on tiktok about why there era is the best.
@@ND-OPSdon’t be stupid, it’s fact that sports evolve rapidly, athletes are bigger, stronger, faster, taller, more skilled, have better nutrition, better training methods, etc then ever before. This happens and will continue to happen as medicine and food quality improve as well, in 20 years the players will be better then they are currently that’s just the way it works
been waiting for this one
the idea of enjoy basketball and your passion as a whole is so inspiring to me. you see something and know it can be better and then you go out and make it better yourself. I'm a big comic book reader and I adore it as an art form. but a lot of discussions around comics are either minimal or just dumb, very much like the constant stupidity that the jordan vs. lebron debate is. but when I see you actually go to make that difference yourself, it is just so cool to see and really makes me wanna do the same with what I love and really pursue creating an environment of good community and discussion. so thank you for being an inspiration and keep up the incredible work
Crazy thing is I’ve been seeing people debunk the “Jordan can’t go left” thing but those videos won’t blow up as much
Because of 2 key reasons
1. Those 15 year olds won't care because it proves them wrong
2. Most people are probably trolling
Yes most people are just trolling but people on the internet can’t have some fun and always got to be over sensitive 😒
Maybe because no one cares theres hundreds of pages on every social media account dedicated to hating lebron when you type lebron on fb you literally get hate pages why do you all cry when its jordan but have never in ur life said anything abt people disrespecting bron one answer because you dont care 🤷🏼♂️
Dude average 37 a game without a left. He would average 50 with both hands, damn that's why MJ will forver be the GOAT.
@@ND-OPS but he had a left
i been waiting for this one
Nostalgia ruins pretty much every type of debate or ranking, they’re all pointless bc the goal of any sport long term is for it to grow and have more talent. New players would shit on most older ones
Yep. I like to argue that the top 10% of the talent in an era could pretty much be very good to great in every era. What changes is the average NBA player in each era.
The average NBA player tends to get better over time, while the top talent doesn't fluctuate that greatly from era to era (at least 1970s onwards).
@@Jkev24that makes no sense. the reason these greats are so good is because they were far ahead of their time when they came into the league compared to everyone else. nowadays that gap of talent has decreased so they would be a normal role player in today’s league. i’m not saying it’s their fault i’m just saying with their skill set from their era they couldn’t do good in today’s nba. they’d have to adopt a whole new playstyle and it would take years before they would be good
No they wouldn’t.
Players are just as capable.
Most of you are genuinely slow and don’t understand the term evolution.
The GAME is different due to rules and technology/medicine.
This debates showcases the stupidity of the modern populace.
@@donjames340 That may be true for some, but not all.
Like for instance, we've seen DeRozan flourish when he can't shoot 3s. There's a place in the league for mid-range specialists still.
A guy like Shaq is going to be so dominant at scoring down low that he would bring back the necessity of having 1 enforcer on the team just to guard him.
Some players were ahead of their time, but some were so ahead of their time that they would still be elite today.
Guys like Bird were doing a lot of the same things Luka is doing today.
Just depends on the star player in question.
@@Jkev24 the main steroid of the 90's were HGH and Tren(strength and explosive power) vs EPO now Epo is pure speed and stamina. Which is why you see more points scored vs physical " defence" then.
Plus the passing game is better now with pnr refined to the max and 4 players on the three point line ready to drive/ kick/ chuck 3s.
Thank you bro you are so real for this
This take on the GOAT debate is one of the realest takes I done heard. Props to Kenny
Everybody gangsta until you show them actual footage of 90s defense instead of word of mouth.
The ‘90s defense was absolute dog shit and overrated. The oldheads lied to me and I’ll never care about their opinion again
Most of the niggas in that era couldn’t dribble and score. Jordan seemed like the ONLY player with a decent bag and even Jordan couldn’t go left
@@user-xb4fm5rx8hbro you can’t even breathe on a guy today 😂😂 without it being a foul soft baby shit
@@user-xb4fm5rx8h so real
90's defence was just slapping a guy mid air :P
It's an overdue and fair retaliation to the deification of 90s ball and 90s players especially when said is used as a rhetorical cudgel to beat people with who are trying to enjoy the game today
The NBA community and players are the only major sports community in NA where no one respects any generation, past or new. It’s absolute insanity
10000%
lol 20 years from now we’ll have this same conversation about our era. can’t wait for those days.
Facts I swear people act like that debates is a bad thing it’s competitive thing don’t like it mind your business
man Kenny spitting in this one
it started with the old heads constantly disrespecting the new generation calling them soft and swearing it was so much better back in the 80s and 90s. nobody was saying "we're done with the 90s" before old heads were saying "[insert player here] WOULD HAVE NEVER SURVIVED [insert old era here]" people got tired of disrespect of the current generation so they gotta respond and say look your era was far from perfect
Except the old heads are right to make fun of this cupcake era
@@landonforan8879not really no
@@landonforan8879 literally proved his point
@@landonforan8879 You are right, if you wanna see zero spacing, zero basketball IQ and less talent
I’ve always just took anything the old heads said as a joke, they say some outrageous things but i find it funny, doesn’t deter my respect for them as they laid the foundation for us.
Jordan was DeRozan without a left this whole time 😭
Have you watched any full games or just a couple Tik tok clips?
@@bostonsports3750pretty sure he's just joking.
MJ at the very least was a lockdown defender. And even if he couldn't go left (which really isn't true lol), he couldn't be stopped going right.
@@Jkev24the sad part is a lot of these young fans aren’t joking, the same way a lot of old heads aren’t joking when they say Bron ain’t even top 10. I feel like the only honest and mature group of people when it comes to basketball talk are people who grew up watching 2000s ball, and got to experience that transition from old to modern NBA in real time. Most of these kids have no recollection of what the NBA was like pre 2016.
@@brando1919 true. I felt like an old head even in 2017 when I had kids telling me Kobe was trash.
Like I have MJ as the GOAT, but only by a hair over LeBron. If LeBron won another chip as a main piece to the title run, then I would put him over MJ. That's how close I have the two.
@@brando1919facts i was born in 99 and this debate annoys me , most 90’s fans and late 2010’s/2020’s fans are both idiotic
love u kenny keep it up
Amazing take Kenny, truly, maybe your best yet. Well said and lets watch some ball tn!
football has started to trend towards that with mahomes and brady
my dad puts this perfectly honestly. he said that the entire goat debate across all sports was just made up to fill up tv time and get engagement
That debate doesn’t just exist on TV. It’s in barber shops, schools, break rooms, bars, etc
One thing that I appreciate about Kenny is that you're always authentic. People get so deep into the daily online social media/podcast/talking "feeling right" is how they watch/consume/talk hoops. I watch basketball to see the best face off to see who wins in every era. That's basketball. Not a style or an era or a debate source, etc.
PREACH BROTHER!
man yall stressing the homie out 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Love your style, keep rocking it!
I think the reason this happens in NBA fandom so much is because 1 player can have the most impact of any major team sport. Tom Brady doesn’t play defense, pitchers usually dont bat super well but both batting and pitching is super important. So its easy to boil down 1 to 1 arguments instead of just appreciating the game for what it is
I was waiting for this
kenny that shirt tooooo clean man
Lookin like a bowling alley manager
@@_will795😂😂
I actually very recently switched my opinion on the goat debate. Always thought Jordan, but only a few weeks ago my opinion began to shift to Lebron. If I had to guess why I was able to is because, scientifically, people are less likely to change their opinions when they are disproven or informed they are wrong. But no one told me I was wrong or argued with me. I was able to change it on my own through my own observations.
What made you switch opinion ? The longevity ? That got me thinking ngl
There we go
You're just dumb brotha
@@3self In my opinion Jordan didn't really go against difficult competition. His supporting cast was always better than every other superstar. They won 55 games without him and were still contenders. Lebron had to go against the dynasty spurs and warriors, plus the league he played in and still does is way more talented. Like how it is incredibly difficult for a team to win 2 rings back to back due to how balanced it is now. He was a big fish in a small pond.
Lebron had to go against the Spurs and the Warriors and mostly lost. He lost against the Mavs in 2011 in all time most embarrassing fashion due to his own mediocrity. Lebron is nowhere near Jordan's level (or Kobe's or Tim Duncan's) but you all go ahead and revel in your own ignorance
Kenny your perspective is spot on
Just appreciate greatness
i feel like other sports don't discredit the past as much because there HASN'T been as much change in those sports. baseball famously has barely changed to the point where many people say the GOAT is a guy who played in the 1910s (Babe Ruth)
Exactly you can only throw a football or hit a baseball one way 😂
Comparison is the thief of joy. That’s nugget right there.
Spot on Kenny. 💯
Kenny I fw wit ur take On Point
You wrong Kenny. This happens every time with soccer, boxing, mma, etc etc
No it doesn't, nobody discredits Maradona or Pele, nobody discredits Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali
@@YEGGS_1 maybe in the USA where nobody watches soccer 🤣
the funniest thing about this trend is that it's entirely a joke with the exception of the nba twitter weirdos, but old heads are FUMING at it. old heads been comparing and criticizing new eras for years and are breaking down now that it's happening to them.
This is exactly what I love about this 😂😂
Old heads don't understand trolling and are incidentally feeding the trolls (including me) and making the trend even bigger. I love it
@@jeremyfuller7730 Im an oldhead at 27 now but I'll Lebronmaxx Currymaxx Kawhimaxx Jokicmaxx with the young trolls. There's atleast 25 years worth of people who never got off Jordan nutsack.
aye go off king ✊🏾
I feel ya. I’m 29 and I’m strictly here for the jokes lol. Not gonna serious this out
i still can’t believe that kenny is already pushing 30, time flies
Tom Brady was the first player to break that mold because before ring number 6 they would all ways say Joe Montana was better then him and try to discredit the other qbs playing after the 2000s. Saying players like elway, dan Marion, troy aikman and etc was better
Yea I’m not even a huge football fan, but I think your example is great at showing fans do the same. Brady had been getting called a check down merchant for years, until more recently
@@Bdonlee15 I think that stems from hate turning into respect. Bron was clutch since day one but until 2012 Game 6 v Boston and 2016 3-1 did Bron finally get the label removed but taken seriously as a top 3 at that point. Last decade has just taken him to at worst 2/1B and to many, like me, 1A. At a certain point the hate must give way to a mature reading of the game. I as a Manning can piss and moan about Manning being the GOAT and discredit Brady but if you really like the game, you can't help but appreciate. Manning is my fav ever and damnit at this point Brady is too.
Kenny is the “peace, love and positivity” of basketball. Bro spreads plp through straight good vibes fr
You the real goat Kenny.
I’m a part of a sports community and I can tell you kenny people nowadays hate on a lot of nfl players by how the game was played😭
Yea they literally do the exact same thing 😂😂 just as toxic
we done with the 90s kenny
Just enjoy basketball man, this goat debate shit has gotten out of hand
You need to be done with high school before you talk about done with the 90s💀 Sports are not for immature people to talk about.
@@brando1919you are acting like old heads blinded my nostalgia don't say dumb stuff.
@@BIuezy they do and they need to stay in the nursing home. Only age group that can honestly talk about hoops without extreme bias are people who grew up in the 2000s
Wjo’s we?
Kenny your content is awesome. I can relate to being fudtrated and not caring about the debate. I also feel like we shouldn't even compare the multiple generations because of how different the nba is played now than it was back then. I wish we nba fans can let players celebrate there accolades and career achievements
I love when people like Kenny take jokes like this to seriously
I'm young and i come from the football (soccer) world, i've been watching the nba for like only 5 years from now but i've watched a lot of replay, analysis from diferent eras n shit. The craziest thing that stands out to me is that basketball is THE ONLY sport where people actually believe that the game was better before. It does not dicredit the quality of the game frome the 80's, 90's, but i've seen old head saying dead serious that the greattest players of this generation couldn't have done it back then. That's something that could've never been said in football lmao
It's crazy how little they realize that it's very nearly ALWAYS the other way around.
Oldheads have been talking down on the new NBA for years but now they get sensitive cause their overrated era gets mocked. Mfs could barely dribble with their off hand in the 80s bruh we gotta stop that nostalgia 💀
you both stupid
😂😂😭
Our era talks way more down on there’s, just making stuff up lmao
both yall wrong
I’m 20 and I’ll admit this new gen of basketball is Trash
Thank you
kenny and p with the golf come up is a beauty to watch
ENJOY BASKETBALL‼️
2:53 This happens because of how dynamic our game is, players have gotten sooooo much better that it’s hard not to discredit older eras when you watch them
That is just not an excuse, "well basketball changes more than football even though they both change so therefore we have the right to discredit the work of past eras aha" 😂
@@awsumsauce3170when people discredit the work of the current generation yeah of course we're gonna respond by pointing out the flaws in their era
Counter point: new generation wouldn’t be what it is today without older ones pioneering. still gotta give them flowers
“Dynamic” not Dynamic there just better
@@DaltonBurrowszgiving flowers isn’t the same thing as claiming players back then were better
Great analysis bro. New sub here.
Preach!!
The amount of times I randomly yell “we done with the 90’s” throughout the day is out of control at this point 😂
I too have a problem brother and I’m 45
WE DONE WITH THE 90s
Shut up
Man U spoke str8 facts
The goat conversation is something perpetuated by the league itself. Its good for narrative.
THE RIGHT HAND BABDIT 🤣🤣🤣
The goat of gambling addiction 😂😂
I agree 100% only thing I would add is the fact that younger people discredit the old eras because older generations try their hardest to make everything now seem like trash. So it’s just throwing it back at them leading to no one being happy. If the older guys could give the younger guys their flowers it would be reciprocated because the generation after always follows what was done to them
“Comparison is a thief of joy”
Absolute hardest quote
People are already having those conversations about Brady being from an old era. Except both sides use the same argument
WE DONE WIT DA 90’S!!!
We done with the 20s
Thank god we have Kenny for actual good NBA takes
thank god ur addressing this
kenny we are done with the 90s i’m sorry
Tik tok bball knowledge 😂
Bball fans the only ones who have to shit on other generations to enjoy anything. Its insane
We done with the 2020s
Get rid of that wemby pfp. U dont deserve to use ir
😂😂
we done with the 90s
cringe
Cringe
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I’m a time traveler from 2054. We’re so done with the 2020s y’all didn’t even have the 4 point line and had 6’2 dudes winning finals mvps 💤💤💤💤
Very well said per usual, Kenny. I essentially said the same thing in the comments of one of your most recent videos regarding how media has completely changed the way that basketball fans perceive the game, ultimately for the worse. You can’t compare eras, that’s a simple fact. The sooner NBA fans realize that, the less of this tiring discourse we have to hear.
Love when Kenny speaks facts
the only thing Bron has on Jordan is longevity.
Scoring record,better stats,more,athletic,iq,etc
Better shooter, better driver of the ball, better passer. lol
@@einderdhillon6231better shooter? They keep stats on where players shoot from and Lebron’s FG percentage from within 2 feet of the basket is what keeps his percentage high….his midrange is like 15%
@@bondbarrybonds5774 we're going to ignore 3pt shooting now?
@@einderdhillon6231 shooting isn’t only relegated to beyond the arc. Mid range and freethrows are shooting stats as well and Jordan is better at both. By your metrics, Lebron is a better shooter than Kobe. Or deangelo russell is a better shooter than Reggie Miller. Neither is true
I can't believe i'm posting this comment 11 days after posting on Jonny Arnett (in my opinion the best basketball historian on RUclips) about the legitimacy of Will 100 points game... So i'm gonna repeat myself here, as someone who teaches history, I think what we are facing here is the classical problem of anachronism, people have the tendency to believe that they are living in the best moment in time and that everyone and everything that came before is to result in this specific glorious moment (try to explain to a class of 13 years old that their opinion is simply not better than that of everyone who ever lived haha)
And the fact that this is a tiktok trend, against videos of guys who respect the history of the game is so telling... (This generation have a real problem with attention spam and believing everything they see on the internet) The only part that gets a chuckle out of me, is that the 80 and 90 players are gonna start to face what the 50/60/70 players have gonna thru, sometimes by their own hands. This world doesn't go around, he rolls over..
Preach. The game evolves. Everyone talks about Kyrie looking like a wizard playing in the 90s and, sure, that would be true if there were time machines but that's not how that works. The same logic applies to MJ or Shaq being thrown to the 70s. Plopping players into different eras would just generate a different player altogether, relevant to that time. A Jordan born in 1993 would look a hell of a lot different than what we saw in the 90s. That's why arguing eras is so pointless.
This is exactly what I wanted to see Kenny talk about
This is why I am staunch on the opinion that Brian Scalabrine is the GOAT
My favorite bit to do with people like that take the goat debate serious is ask them to name the best player at each position and then just bullshit ur way thru justifying lebron for all 5 positions
Dude average 37 a game without a left. He would average 50 with both hands, damn that's why MJ will forver be the GOAT.
@@ND-OPS why does nobody bring up that you couldn’t double team Jordan? Lmao I’m supposed to believe someone who’s never faced a double team is gonna score 50 a game. That’s how you know none of you actually watched basketball in any generation.
@@supermanblackedition actually they could, but zone defense is not allowed back then so if you doubled you’ll leave you man open. MJ is doubled plenty of time a game. Do some research kid dont act like you know basketball history.
@@ND-OPS if you can’t zone from a double team then it’s not a real double team. One screen and you’ve killed the defense. That’s not double teaming, it’s a glorified switch that old heads duped us into thinking was “real defense”.
"comparison is the thief of joy" is a crazy bar 🔥
Btw, one of your best vids!
ENJOY BASKETBALL!
We done with the 90s
Nostalgia will always distort your opinion on things like sports. The 90's absolutely had some of the greatest players of all time, but are many of them overrated because people are biased towards "the old days?" Yes, absolutely. Is the average NBA player significantly better today? Yes, absolutely. Does that mean the best players of the previous eras should be discredited? No, absolutely not. There has to be a healthy balance of being able to recognize the greatness of players across different eras regardless of how much the game has changed.
felt that fr @ 5:43 to 6:04
This is the best mindset and take on Basketball fandom today and I’m here for it man. I’m a MJ dude and I’m young so I have to feel like I. Have to defend MJ because I’m around younger fans but in all honesty my answer has changed to Lebron and MJ both have resumes to be the GOAT and they played in different eras in different ways with different rules and at the end of the day they both had dominate phenomenal careers. And it really comes down to what you value Do you value Lebron’s skill set and longevity ? Or are u a peak guy where MJs peak was the most dominate, consistent 10 year stretch of baseball we’ve ever seen? People are not changing they’re mind it’s set in stone let’s just appreciate them both for their contributions. It’s funny because when I was a kid I wasn’t in to Bball for the GOAT debate that’s a modern conversation. I was in to Hoops because TMAC was playing his game in Orlando, then his cousin in Toronto was throwing it down putting on a show, then Shaq and Kobe were winning 3 peats, AI was leading the new school with his swag, Lebron, Dwade and Melo came in and set the league in fire, Ben Wallace and the Pistons used to intimidate me ect ect. That’s why I watched because I truly enjoyed everyone’s unique game. The matchups and then rivalries and the history. MJ used to just be MJ and great no one comparing him to anyone else. Times were simpler and more genuine I miss that man