Ethan Crumbley, the teenager accused of killing four fellow students and injuring more at Oxford High School, pleaded guilty Monday morning in Oakland County Circuit Court.
I am in total disbelief, that there are so many people actually feeling bad for this murderer! Is it the slouching, the glasses, the “ meek, poor me, I’m the victim “ act? I’m absolutely appalled reading comments “ I’m proud of him , I feel so bad for him, it’s not his fault, he’s such a baby he shouldn’t be in prison, I hope he’ll be ok in prison “! WHAT!!!! Do you realize he willingly executed children? He took children away from their families forever! He and he alone premeditated this and followed through! He caused torture, pain and death by his own free will! If it was YOUR child that was murdered, would you pity this killer? If he looked different would you feel bad for him? Wake up people!!! He’s a school shooter- murderer- and this evil being is getting fan mail from future school shooters!!! You are all so blinded!!!!!
I don’t really think many people feel so bad as much as they can sympathize with the fact that he was a child, had many red flags, begged for help, had terrible parents. Two things can be true. You can feel sorry for the kid being set up to fail and still find him a monster who doesn’t deserve to see the light of day.
@@elycezynski you don't feel sorry for this kid. There's kids that have bad parents and they grow up to recognize the mistakes and forgive and forget when they raise their own. This kid was old enough to know better. Obviously if America can get it's balls back, this stuff will slow down
It starts with responsible parents who should gotten him mental health care instead of buying a gun for him. The school recognized the danger and they should have banned him from school until he received psych care. All guns should have been removed from the home. His parents and the school did nothing of substance to help with protecting the lives of those children. But our government steps in to tell parents that 5 year olds can determine their gender and parents can’t make decisions regarding their child’s medical and physical health. Instead of blaming children why aren’t we helping them. My youngest son went through horrible bullying in elementary school. We got him help. Got the bullies suspended, but I had to advocate for my child with the school board and then the state!
This is so sad, this baby faced killer will never breathe outside again, his parents should also spend some time locked up, seeing as how they could have prevented this from happening in many ways. I wish these young boys would somehow come to realize that when they commit this crime, taking the life of others that they WILL spend the rest of their life locked up in prison, they need it instilled in them this will happen, there's no way of getting around this maybe just maybe this won't happen. Nobody wants to be locked up, we did the pandemic thing and we barely made it out of that. Parents need to stop buying or allowing your young sons to purchase guns, this includes hunting rifles. This has to stop, I know I'm not saying anything new, but really enough is enough.
how in any way is it sad? He's a murderer, give him the wood chipper. Parents have nothing to do with it besides monitoring his woke social media usage
@@darinp5612 Young people losing their lives while at school, is SAD! Parents do have something to do with it, they took his money and bought him the gun he picked out. They didn't bother to lock the gun up, lastly they didn't check his bag, as well as they should have taken him back home. He had no business being at school after the meeting. Parents didn't give a shit. Did this answer your question about what's SAD? Children being shot is sad enough I would think.
@@thecanadiancatlady9698 first off, does being sad change what happened. Second off, unfortunately it happens. Third parents do all they can for their kids, but sometimes kids just have that silly star chromosome from the get go. In this case, parents were shitty parents... did that influence the kid, maybe... but overall, parental influence as well as what they're exposed to at a young age has a major effect... things like judgmental and materialistic idiots on the internet, violent music, movies and video games that any child can download and poison their mind at a very young age... after years of it, it makes children desensitized and sterile to real world aspects and responsibility... they either do one of two things, commit suicide or kill other people. So before you jump to solely blaming parents, look at the environment that fuels this fire. That's my opinion on it, I'm sure you'll have a comment because this is a democratic shithole site and everyone has to have the last word.
@@thecanadiancatlady9698 I agree with you 💯, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Guns do not belong in the hands of kids, nor fools. Parents should absolutely be held liable. Crumbley's bought Ethan the gun, they failed to address their child's needs/issues, as they were too busy riding horses and having extra-marital affairs. The Crumbley's completely abandoned their own son, even during critical times when he most needed parental guidance and parental care.
@@biitchesbrew what I’m saying is he could have forced this case to trial and drugged the Victims families through further hell and cost the State a lot more money.
@@michaelbierschbach8821 because he probably has a deal of some sort promising he’ll testify against his parents. I doubt it’s anything Nobel. If he were a good person those people would be alive today.
At some point parents absolutely need to take accountability for what their child did! They bought him the gun after many calls for help for his mental well being! They did nothing to help him when asked repeatedly for mental help, he ever told his friend and wrote in his journal he was dying from his mental issues, I'm not saying what he did was ok by any means, but my God if your child asked for mental help don't buy him a gun! Jesus, they really did fail him, I am a social worker and trust me parents do bare responsibility for their child's actions when they do not get them the mental help they need and especially when that child was begging for help
What’s your opinion on years and years of teachers and adults that very likely noticed something was wrong with him at school? I’m sure you also are aware at how many mental illness people can hide and do hide it from others?
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
Masks are your problem? He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
I pray for Ethan that he finds Jesus, repents and be saved. Parents failed him so much. Only Gods mercy can deliver him from all sin. 🙏🏼 So sad so many kids grow up troubled and a lot get bullied, my heart breaks for all children and teenagers that go thru a bad life growing up. We need to know how to forgive just as our Heavenly Father forgives those who repent and seek Him. 🙏🏼
Amen! You are exactly right about that. Who are we to judge those who have sinned? We too are sinners and in God’s eyes we are all equal. I pray for his safety and that he finds God
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
So what do you blame? Violent video games? Violent rap music? Depressing emo music? Gender dysphoric kids? A virus no worse than the flu that our gov. did everything wrong on handling? Blaming the parents is one thing, but it's a quick cover, it's definitely not the biggest issue...
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
@@jlorde8838 BULLSHIT!!! Maybe in the 1800’s but we are supposed to be a modern society! Assault weapons have no right to be in the hands of the average citizen. The belong in law enforcement and in the military!
@@jlorde8838 I never said government is my friend. I despise what it our government does and has become. They are more interested in courting special interest groups than in supporting the majority of their citizens.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
I actually feel bad for that public defender i assume thats what she is rip to all this shit never gets any easier i wish there was an answer to stop it but unfortunately it will never end
@@gavin__ honestly it's a virtue signal. They don't work and yet sheep still do it. They have no reason why. The guilty plea matters, yet, they still buy into a fake notion that cloth will protect you
It’s sad that everyone wants to affix a malady or a syndrome to this behavior. In my day we called it evil and evil was not diagnosed because it was Inherent and evil can not be removed by a pill or counseling. Evil only disappears when it is locked away or removed!
this is a devastating , heart breaking, and upsetting thing and you’re worried about some masks? grow up. if you don’t agree with them fine. me either. but read the room and get a life
@@madisonmoll3604 go hug a tree sensitive karen. It is a tragedy that no one can change so... if you don't like what I have to say then mind your own damn buisness and keep scrolling
What has this got to do with anything? He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
When a dude getting bullied and shoots up his school and they blame on marylin and the heroin where wer the parents at look where it's at middle American now it's a tragedy now it's so sad to see Eminem been told use
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
Because they don't want to die horribly from an airborne disease. this is your take? He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
I am in total disbelief, that there are so many people actually feeling bad for this murderer! Is it the slouching, the glasses, the “ meek, poor me, I’m the victim “ act? I’m absolutely appalled reading comments “ I’m proud of him , I feel so bad for him, it’s not his fault, he’s such a baby he shouldn’t be in prison, I hope he’ll be ok in prison “! WHAT!!!! Do you realize he willingly executed children? He took children away from their families forever! He and he alone premeditated this and followed through! He caused torture, pain and death by his own free will! If it was YOUR child that was murdered, would you pity this killer? If he looked different would you feel bad for him? Wake up people!!! He’s a school shooter- murderer- and this evil being is getting fan mail from future school shooters!!! You are all so blinded!!!!!
Agreed
I don’t really think many people feel so bad as much as they can sympathize with the fact that he was a child, had many red flags, begged for help, had terrible parents. Two things can be true. You can feel sorry for the kid being set up to fail and still find him a monster who doesn’t deserve to see the light of day.
@@elycezynski you don't feel sorry for this kid. There's kids that have bad parents and they grow up to recognize the mistakes and forgive and forget when they raise their own. This kid was old enough to know better. Obviously if America can get it's balls back, this stuff will slow down
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It starts with responsible parents who should gotten him mental health care instead of buying a gun for him. The school recognized the danger and they should have banned him from school until he received psych care. All guns should have been removed from the home. His parents and the school did nothing of substance to help with protecting the lives of those children. But our government steps in to tell parents that 5 year olds can determine their gender and parents can’t make decisions regarding their child’s medical and physical health. Instead of blaming children why aren’t we helping them. My youngest son went through horrible bullying in elementary school. We got him help. Got the bullies suspended, but I had to advocate for my child with the school board and then the state!
This is so sad, this baby faced killer will never breathe outside again, his parents should also spend some time locked up, seeing as how they could have prevented this from happening in many ways. I wish these young boys would somehow come to realize that when they commit this crime, taking the life of others that they WILL spend the rest of their life locked up in prison, they need it instilled in them this will happen, there's no way of getting around this maybe just maybe this won't happen. Nobody wants to be locked up, we did the pandemic thing and we barely made it out of that. Parents need to stop buying or allowing your young sons to purchase guns, this includes hunting rifles. This has to stop, I know I'm not saying anything new, but really enough is enough.
how in any way is it sad? He's a murderer, give him the wood chipper. Parents have nothing to do with it besides monitoring his woke social media usage
Sick country you are living in 😂.
@@darinp5612 Young people losing their lives while at school, is SAD!
Parents do have something to do with it, they took his money and bought him the gun he picked out. They didn't bother to lock the gun up, lastly they didn't check his bag, as well as they should have taken him back home. He had no business being at school after the meeting. Parents didn't give a shit. Did this answer your question about what's SAD? Children being shot is sad enough I would think.
@@thecanadiancatlady9698 first off, does being sad change what happened. Second off, unfortunately it happens. Third parents do all they can for their kids, but sometimes kids just have that silly star chromosome from the get go. In this case, parents were shitty parents... did that influence the kid, maybe... but overall, parental influence as well as what they're exposed to at a young age has a major effect... things like judgmental and materialistic idiots on the internet, violent music, movies and video games that any child can download and poison their mind at a very young age... after years of it, it makes children desensitized and sterile to real world aspects and responsibility... they either do one of two things, commit suicide or kill other people. So before you jump to solely blaming parents, look at the environment that fuels this fire.
That's my opinion on it, I'm sure you'll have a comment because this is a democratic shithole site and everyone has to have the last word.
@@thecanadiancatlady9698 I agree with you 💯,
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Guns do not belong in the hands of kids, nor fools. Parents should absolutely be held liable. Crumbley's bought Ethan the gun, they failed to address their child's needs/issues, as they were too busy riding horses and having extra-marital affairs. The Crumbley's completely abandoned their own son, even during critical times when he most needed parental guidance and parental care.
I hate what he did to these people, but I respect the fact that at 16 he’s taking full responsibility and pleading guilty.
what else was he going to do?
@@biitchesbrew. He could have took this to trial and pretended to be insane.
@@michaelbierschbach8821 he killed 4 kids and injured 7 others, of course he has to take responsibility and the consequences for what he did.
@@biitchesbrew what I’m saying is he could have forced this case to trial and drugged the Victims families through further hell and cost the State a lot more money.
@@michaelbierschbach8821 because he probably has a deal of some sort promising he’ll testify against his parents. I doubt it’s anything Nobel. If he were a good person those people would be alive today.
At some point parents absolutely need to take accountability for what their child did! They bought him the gun after many calls for help for his mental well being! They did nothing to help him when asked repeatedly for mental help, he ever told his friend and wrote in his journal he was dying from his mental issues, I'm not saying what he did was ok by any means, but my God if your child asked for mental help don't buy him a gun! Jesus, they really did fail him, I am a social worker and trust me parents do bare responsibility for their child's actions when they do not get them the mental help they need and especially when that child was begging for help
What’s your opinion on years and years of teachers and adults that very likely noticed something was wrong with him at school? I’m sure you also are aware at how many mental illness people can hide and do hide it from others?
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
He is still a very unbalanced child, his needs were ignored so the end result was a tragic one for all concerned! So very sad…..
uhhh, no... this is a spoiled kid whose parents never raised him to fight.
@@darinp5612 shut up sheep
@@nicolelitwicki6600 I'm far from a follower. How many masks do you wear?
@@darinp5612 none. My job doesn’t require it at all. I’ve only wore them to the doctor and never any other time
@@nicolelitwicki6600 Why would you wear it to a doctor?
this judge has a really nice voice and is really attractive 😳😳
My heart hurts for this young man
Sick
Dumbazz threw his whole life away
give him the chair
Your fault your there goofy 🤣💀💀
His what was there?
@@judgewilson2410 he’s saying it’s his fault that he’s there then called him goofy.
@@Inamichan your fault *you’re lol your is possessive
Poor thing. He doesn't understand that he will never experience anything other than jail while he is alive on earth
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
This is sad it’s the parents fault not ethan’s
You knew the parents?
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
No he did it at the end of the day. He knew what he was doing
I wonder if kids that do this have the same feelings a person jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge has 2/3 of the way down.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
It looks like he is a loner who played too many violent video games,
No excuse for murdering innocent lives .
Isn’t it possible that he was just mentally ill?
Really? Using the tired and overused excuse of video games?
It’s definitely the video games. 🤣
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
Still with the masks?
Michigan is a sheep state of course they are masked
Masks are your problem? He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
Well, it's about time we did something about this masking thing
What is the Miller hearing?
I pray for Ethan that he finds Jesus, repents and be saved. Parents failed him so much. Only Gods mercy can deliver him from all sin. 🙏🏼 So sad so many kids grow up troubled and a lot get bullied, my heart breaks for all children and teenagers that go thru a bad life growing up. We need to know how to forgive just as our Heavenly Father forgives those who repent and seek Him. 🙏🏼
Amen! You are exactly right about that. Who are we to judge those who have sinned? We too are sinners and in God’s eyes we are all equal. I pray for his safety and that he finds God
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
What are the masks for?
Do you know how viruses are transmitted? Flu? Rpx? Covid?
@@pinkakagreen
Depends if you believe in viruses, I don't,
Do you believe in gravity?
16? Damn bro
So what do you blame? Violent video games? Violent rap music? Depressing emo music? Gender dysphoric kids? A virus no worse than the flu that our gov. did everything wrong on handling? Blaming the parents is one thing, but it's a quick cover, it's definitely not the biggest issue...
At the end they should have left him with the family alone.
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
Verifying the purchase/possession of a safe along with the firearm would be a solution. Especially in a dwelling with children.
The right to own firearms should not be infringed
@@jlorde8838 BULLSHIT!!! Maybe in the 1800’s but we are supposed to be a modern society! Assault weapons have no right to be in the hands of the average citizen. The belong in law enforcement and in the military!
@@beckewolf2597 all WEAPONS are used for assault . There is no such thing as a assault pistol or rifle. He had a standard popular pistol.
@@beckewolf2597 if you think government is your friend I am sorry you missed history class. Unarmed societies are at the mercy of government.
@@jlorde8838 I never said government is my friend. I despise what it our government does and has become. They are more interested in courting special interest groups than in supporting the majority of their citizens.
So glad this day has come
Monster
You deserved better Ethan. I'm sorry bruh
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
I actually feel bad for that public defender i assume thats what she is rip to all this shit never gets any easier i wish there was an answer to stop it but unfortunately it will never end
and why are they wearing masks?
Is that really what matters here to you?
@@gavin__ honestly it's a virtue signal. They don't work and yet sheep still do it. They have no reason why. The guilty plea matters, yet, they still buy into a fake notion that cloth will protect you
@@darinp5612 OK boomer
@@gavin__ is that a generational joke? Don't get me started on generational things... we wouldn't be in the snowflake position we are now
@@darinp5612 you seem like the snowflake here lmao
He's not a her! Smfh
15:16
It’s sad that everyone wants to affix a malady or a syndrome to this behavior.
In my day we called it evil and evil was not diagnosed because it was Inherent and evil can not be removed by a pill or counseling.
Evil only disappears when it is locked away or removed!
In my day, parents didn't birthday gift assault rifles.
Evil occurs slowly overtime. Nobody is born this way. It comes from neglect.
I agree. He is evil and pathetic. He can't even look up and face the court when saying 'Yes' to what he did.
wow that's alot of face diapers in that court room!!
this is a devastating , heart breaking, and upsetting thing and you’re worried about some masks? grow up. if you don’t agree with them fine. me either. but read the room and get a life
@@madisonmoll3604 go hug a tree sensitive karen. It is a tragedy that no one can change so... if you don't like what I have to say then mind your own damn buisness and keep scrolling
People died and you want to talk about masks? Show your mother what you said and see if she’s proud.
@@madisonmoll3604 they should not be on anyone's face ever again.
@@NicholaiDrums they are dangerous.
Interesting, that just a few months ago they were wearing masks. We canceled that here. 😅
I saw a police officer with no mask.
What has this got to do with anything? He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
@@bartybollocks I was making an observation.
When a dude getting bullied and shoots up his school and they blame on marylin and the heroin where wer the parents at look where it's at middle American now it's a tragedy now it's so sad to see Eminem been told use
He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.
Maybe he will become buddies with Nathan Abraham....
So not funny.
Why are they wearing masks?
Because Covid still exists and some people with certain illnesses don’t want to get sick or get the flu.. that’s why. It’s not that difficult 🙄
Sheep state
Because they don't want to die horribly from an airborne disease. this is your take? He had access to a pistol!! this is a unique American situation. Their is knife crime in the UK because you cannot get a gun. Making excuses for these animals is not the way to go.