I also had this type of reaction from people listening from my sweet spot, my wife gets angry every time she listens to music sitting in my chair because she thinks it's unfair for people not having this type of experience everyday in their lives. But I don't have ATC's, one day maybe, maybe not hahaha, I have a pair of Yamaha's HS50M with a sub, but my room is REALLY treated, I invested most of the "upgrade money" during my career in room treatment (studies and materials) and I know my room sound way better than some with very expensive monitors (I generally end up tuning their rooms after they listen to my situation). And yes, I'll upgrade my monitors one day and I'll probably go ATC or something as midrangy, I'm also a mid forward guy. Congrats on your pair, I bet they are amazing!
I love that!! Once you hear how music is intended to sound there’s no turning back from that. Investing in acoustic treatment is so worth it and your listening environment will treat you well once you treat it well. If you like midrange you’ll love the ATC’s the midrange is beautiful. Thank you so much!! I spent a lot on the speakers and now it’s time for me to spend some more on the acoustics!
Thank you for your review. I also had them in my studio to try out. They are excellent monitors with a unbelievable mid range. The high's are very gentle and very detailed and open. They put each instrument on its own shelf and you can hear all the small details on each instruments sounds. It will tell you what is going on with everything from reverb tails to drums and vocals in a way not many monitors can do. The one thing I found however is they lack a cohesive sound of the music which every other speaker does for the most part. So to know how your mix will sound on regular speakers, you will need some good headphones are inexpensive smaller monitors. Have you found this issue with the ATC's as well or are you so used to working on them, that you know how they will sound in different stereos, Bluetooth and car stereos?
Thanks so much for watching! Really appreciate your comment and also for taking the time to watch my video. I actually posted another video on my channel about an Auratone mixcube monitor that im using to reference my mix on playback devices like headphones, bluetooth, laptop speakers, etc. I agree with you, i found myself wanting to supplement my monitoring with a pair of speakers that mimicked consumer playback devices which is why i got the auratone. it’s been super helpful to check that what im doing on my ATC’s can also translate to other systems.
@@_philchoi The ATC's are the most amazing monitors I ever heard. I am sorry I had to have them go, but I was so used to my Focal Twins for over 10 years. The learning curve for me on the ATC's would have taken me a couple of months. I ended up with the Focal Trio 6 's that cost thousands less, that offer mid separation, while still having some cohesive sound. They are very good monitors, but the ATC's honestly provide more detail while the Trios offer more low end bass. I rate the Trio 6's a 8.5, and the ATC's a 9.2. If the ATC's had more bass, I would rate them 9.5.
@@revelationsoundstudio You’re so right about the learning curve on these! I upgraded from the ATC SCM 12’s and even that was a huge learning curve for me. I haven’t heard the Focal Trio but heard great things. Knowing your way around speakers will definitely help you get to your end destination faster and that’s invaluable so i’m glad to hear the Trio is working for you. I think the ATC SCM25A’s are the best 3 way speaker i’ve heard. It’s just tremendous in the way it delivers low mid and high frequencies. For extended low end on the 25’s you do have to move it around in your room to find the ideal spot for low end response in your room but every time someone says they wish these had more low end i can completely understand where they’re coming from.
I would check out the Barefoot Sound Footprint03 monitors! Barefoot speakers sound great and these are in a really good price range for 3 way speakers.
@@_philchoi Is there anything around the 4-5k price point that is worth getting over the barefoots? (Neumann KH 310, Genelec 8331, HEDD Type 20, Eve SC3070) Thanks.
@ If your budget is 4-5K the options open up more and I think there are better speakers you can get. The Genelec 8331’s are a good option for the price range but also think worth considering is the barefoot micromain 35’s or used micromain 45’s. If you’re able to go to a store like vintage king or any place you can hear and test out the speakers it will completely be worth your time. When choosing my ATC’s that’s what I did and i remember really liking the barefoots too which is why I think they’re worth looking into but everyone is different and you should see if you can listen to the speakers before you decide!
Do you use room correction like trinnov or dirac with them? I'm thinking of upgrading my kh120ii to scm25a. My room is treated but I got a 10db peak at 140hz which the ma1 systems solves perfectly.
That’s funny you mention that, I was just reading something this week where Chris Coady swore by Trinnov and I’m super curious about trying that out. Definitely open to Room correction but just haven’t had a chance yet to try it with my scm25’s yet. That’s awesome, anything that can handle a 10db peak like that must be a lifesaver. That’s cool that Neumann can offer that
Hey man! Just wondering what speaker stands you’re using? Im looking for a set and can’t find ones that suit my need. But as soon as I saw your speaker stands in this video, I had to ask what they are. I have to get them!!
Hey thanks for watching! Funny you asked, my next video that i’m uploading is actually going to be about my speaker stands. They are Sound Anchor ADJ2 44”. They sell em one sweetwater and vintage king
Hey, I was just curious to see what people thought about the SCM25A. I actually received the new version MK2 yesterday and am waiting for the Sound Anchor JD2 (ummm I was going back n forth about spending over 1k for stands🤣)which will arrive next week. Question, what's the isolation pad you have on there and do you think it helps with the performance of the speakers? Good review btw but also, where is your damn room treatment???😁. I'm also in a home studio. Anyway I'm very excited to have some time off and mix with them!
Hey, thanks for checking in, my ATC’s are on Sound Anchors ADJ2’s and they are incredibly well built and so freaking heavy! I got these isolation pads from a guy who custom makes them in LA. It was highly recommended by the guy i bought my atcs from. They’re basically concrete blocks that have other types of material joined together so that it reduces as much resonance as possible and really works. 😂😂 the room treatment (not featured in the video) is filled with GIK 244s to the left, right, and above mix position. the empty wall space next to the speakers is because i had 2 GIK bass traps there but moved them directly behind me instead and it worked much better for my room. I’m gonna do some reviews of the ADJ2 and my GIK bass traps. Thanks for watching!!
Hi! Do you use ATC 25 monitors in your studio? How do they perform in your space? I'm considering them for a 172 square foot room with an 8.5 foot ceiling and planning to add acoustic treatment. Do you think they would work well in this kind of environment?
172 square foot room will work! Acoustic treatment will be important and I would say especially on the ceiling since your ceiling to floor is the shortest dimension
@@_philchoi Thank you so much! I was initially considering ATC 45, but realized they might be too big for my room. What kind of treatment would you recommend for the ceiling? Should I install a cloud above the listening position or something more comprehensive?
@@kanstprod2575 The 25’s have a lot of power and so I think those will be a nice addition to the size of your studio! Yes, i would try acoustic clouds over your mix position and leave an air gap. I’ve been using the GIK cloud brackets above my mix position and it really helped. even though cloud brackets are a bit tougher to install they’re worth it! I have another video on my channel that goes over the treatment i setup if you want to get an idea it’s called studio acoustic panel placement
Hey glad the video can help! These stands are Sound Anchor ADJ2 monitor stands and they are height adjustable. I have a review of the ADJ2’s on my channel too if that helps thanks for watching!
Haha I wish i was loaded!! If i were i think I’d build a Northward Acoustics room from the ground up 💸💸. I feel very lucky to own these speakers and they are very much still my dream speakers after having these for a bit of time. I had to save up for quite a bit of time and sell multiple pieces of gear for these but it was so worth it.
@_philchoi I'm trying to decide between the ATC SCM12 PRO (passive), Dynaudio BM 6A, and Mackie HR824 MK2. All sealed because I suppose sealed monitors are more forgiving of improperly treated rooms. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.
@@newgunguy4176 I would 100% recommend the ATC SCM12’s out of those 3. I had the 12’s paired with a Bryston 4B amplifier and loved how they sounded! it’s going to be more expensive but so worth it.
@@jackc8120 I bought my speakers used from a guy who had a studio about that size i think for your dimensions you’d still be fine with 25’s or 45’s! I wish my room was a little bit bigger and so for the 25’s you should be good 👍🏻
I also had this type of reaction from people listening from my sweet spot, my wife gets angry every time she listens to music sitting in my chair because she thinks it's unfair for people not having this type of experience everyday in their lives. But I don't have ATC's, one day maybe, maybe not hahaha, I have a pair of Yamaha's HS50M with a sub, but my room is REALLY treated, I invested most of the "upgrade money" during my career in room treatment (studies and materials) and I know my room sound way better than some with very expensive monitors (I generally end up tuning their rooms after they listen to my situation). And yes, I'll upgrade my monitors one day and I'll probably go ATC or something as midrangy, I'm also a mid forward guy. Congrats on your pair, I bet they are amazing!
I love that!! Once you hear how music is intended to sound there’s no turning back from that. Investing in acoustic treatment is so worth it and your listening environment will treat you well once you treat it well. If you like midrange you’ll love the ATC’s the midrange is beautiful. Thank you so much!! I spent a lot on the speakers and now it’s time for me to spend some more on the acoustics!
Wow congrats man. Only heard great things about these monitors. Translation is key to a great mix!
thanks so much! these speakers plus acoustic treatment have gone such a long way in translation in my mixes and very stoked on these speakers.
These ATC are definitely one of the best set of speaker you can get
💯% agreed!! they’re truly amazing and I haven’t heard speakers perform quite like these ones
@@_philchoi I Went with Dynaudio LYD48 but maybe later i'll be able to afford some ATCs :)
Thank you for your review. I also had them in my studio to try out. They are excellent monitors with a unbelievable mid range. The high's are very gentle and very detailed and open. They put each instrument on its own shelf and you can hear all the small details on each instruments sounds. It will tell you what is going on with everything from reverb tails to drums and vocals in a way not many monitors can do. The one thing I found however is they lack a cohesive sound of the music which every other speaker does for the most part. So to know how your mix will sound on regular speakers, you will need some good headphones are inexpensive smaller monitors. Have you found this issue with the ATC's as well or are you so used to working on them, that you know how they will sound in different stereos, Bluetooth and car stereos?
Thanks so much for watching! Really appreciate your comment and also for taking the time to watch my video. I actually posted another video on my channel about an Auratone mixcube monitor that im using to reference my mix on playback devices like headphones, bluetooth, laptop speakers, etc. I agree with you, i found myself wanting to supplement my monitoring with a pair of speakers that mimicked consumer playback devices which is why i got the auratone. it’s been super helpful to check that what im doing on my ATC’s can also translate to other systems.
@@_philchoi The ATC's are the most amazing monitors I ever heard. I am sorry I had to have them go, but I was so used to my Focal Twins for over 10 years. The learning curve for me on the ATC's would have taken me a couple of months. I ended up with the Focal Trio 6 's that cost thousands less, that offer mid separation, while still having some cohesive sound. They are very good monitors, but the ATC's honestly provide more detail while the Trios offer more low end bass. I rate the Trio 6's a 8.5, and the ATC's a 9.2. If the ATC's had more bass, I would rate them 9.5.
@@revelationsoundstudio You’re so right about the learning curve on these! I upgraded from the ATC SCM 12’s and even that was a huge learning curve for me. I haven’t heard the Focal Trio but heard great things. Knowing your way around speakers will definitely help you get to your end destination faster and that’s invaluable so i’m glad to hear the Trio is working for you. I think the ATC SCM25A’s are the best 3 way speaker i’ve heard. It’s just tremendous in the way it delivers low mid and high frequencies. For extended low end on the 25’s you do have to move it around in your room to find the ideal spot for low end response in your room but every time someone says they wish these had more low end i can completely understand where they’re coming from.
For those who can’t afford the 25s, what other 3-way monitors could you recommend?
I would check out the Barefoot Sound Footprint03 monitors! Barefoot speakers sound great and these are in a really good price range for 3 way speakers.
@@_philchoi Is there anything around the 4-5k price point that is worth getting over the barefoots? (Neumann KH 310, Genelec 8331, HEDD Type 20, Eve SC3070) Thanks.
@ If your budget is 4-5K the options open up more and I think there are better speakers you can get. The Genelec 8331’s are a good option for the price range but also think worth considering is the barefoot micromain 35’s or used micromain 45’s. If you’re able to go to a store like vintage king or any place you can hear and test out the speakers it will completely be worth your time. When choosing my ATC’s that’s what I did and i remember really liking the barefoots too which is why I think they’re worth looking into but everyone is different and you should see if you can listen to the speakers before you decide!
Do you use room correction like trinnov or dirac with them? I'm thinking of upgrading my kh120ii to scm25a. My room is treated but I got a 10db peak at 140hz which the ma1 systems solves perfectly.
That’s funny you mention that, I was just reading something this week where Chris Coady swore by Trinnov and I’m super curious about trying that out. Definitely open to Room correction but just haven’t had a chance yet to try it with my scm25’s yet. That’s awesome, anything that can handle a 10db peak like that must be a lifesaver. That’s cool that Neumann can offer that
Hey man! Just wondering what speaker stands you’re using?
Im looking for a set and can’t find ones that suit my need. But as soon as I saw your speaker stands in this video, I had to ask what they are. I have to get them!!
Hey thanks for watching! Funny you asked, my next video that i’m uploading is actually going to be about my speaker stands. They are Sound Anchor ADJ2 44”. They sell em one sweetwater and vintage king
@@_philchoi oh lol, I beat you to it haha. Thanks heaps for that man! Really appreciate it! I’ll start searching for them!
Hey, I was just curious to see what people thought about the SCM25A. I actually received the new version MK2 yesterday and am waiting for the Sound Anchor JD2 (ummm I was going back n forth about spending over 1k for stands🤣)which will arrive next week. Question, what's the isolation pad you have on there and do you think it helps with the performance of the speakers? Good review btw but also, where is your damn room treatment???😁. I'm also in a home studio. Anyway I'm very excited to have some time off and mix with them!
Hey, thanks for checking in, my ATC’s are on Sound Anchors ADJ2’s and they are incredibly well built and so freaking heavy! I got these isolation pads from a guy who custom makes them in LA. It was highly recommended by the guy i bought my atcs from. They’re basically concrete blocks that have other types of material joined together so that it reduces as much resonance as possible and really works.
😂😂 the room treatment (not featured in the video) is filled with GIK 244s to the left, right, and above mix position. the empty wall space next to the speakers is because i had 2 GIK bass traps there but moved them directly behind me instead and it worked much better for my room. I’m gonna do some reviews of the ADJ2 and my GIK bass traps. Thanks for watching!!
@@_philchoi what do think about using something like sonarwork or ARC to EQ flaws. Somehow I don't think it makes since rn...
@@mwasie I personally don’t have experience with room correction software/eq but it’s cool to see the advancement of the technology!
Hi! Do you use ATC 25 monitors in your studio?
How do they perform in your space? I'm considering them for a 172 square foot room with an 8.5 foot ceiling and planning to add acoustic treatment. Do you think they would work well in this kind of environment?
172 square foot room will work! Acoustic treatment will be important and I would say especially on the ceiling since your ceiling to floor is the shortest dimension
@@_philchoi Thank you so much! I was initially considering ATC 45, but realized they might be too big for my room. What kind of treatment would you recommend for the ceiling? Should I install a cloud above the listening position or something more comprehensive?
@@kanstprod2575 The 25’s have a lot of power and so I think those will be a nice addition to the size of your studio! Yes, i would try acoustic clouds over your mix position and leave an air gap. I’ve been using the GIK cloud brackets above my mix position and it really helped. even though cloud brackets are a bit tougher to install they’re worth it! I have another video on my channel that goes over the treatment i setup if you want to get an idea it’s called studio acoustic panel placement
@@_philchoi Thank you, I’ll definitely check it out!
Hey! Thanks for the video - I'm considering these ATCs! Mind if I ask what stand you're using here? This layout would be perfect.
Hey glad the video can help! These stands are Sound Anchor ADJ2 monitor stands and they are height adjustable. I have a review of the ADJ2’s on my channel too if that helps thanks for watching!
@@_philchoi Thanks, I found the video. These look wonderful!
I rather like the PSI A23-M . It blows the ATC away .. Like a lot .
Never heard of the PSI A23-M but looking at these speakers they look good! Curious to hear what do you like about the PSI A23-M?
@@_philchoi translation , image , neutral sound, transient respons . I have them 1 year now . I use the ADI-2 Pro FS R Dac on it .
@@tomverswyvel6370 All very important things, glad you found speakers that you’re excited about!
Do you had thr chance to compare them against the a25? Cant decide between those two
@@ToniJXN Yes , PSi winner .
You must be loaded! These are ridiculously expensive. My dream speakers.
Haha I wish i was loaded!! If i were i think I’d build a Northward Acoustics room from the ground up 💸💸. I feel very lucky to own these speakers and they are very much still my dream speakers after having these for a bit of time. I had to save up for quite a bit of time and sell multiple pieces of gear for these but it was so worth it.
@_philchoi I'm trying to decide between the ATC SCM12 PRO (passive), Dynaudio BM 6A, and Mackie HR824 MK2. All sealed because I suppose sealed monitors are more forgiving of improperly treated rooms. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.
@@newgunguy4176 I would 100% recommend the ATC SCM12’s out of those 3. I had the 12’s paired with a Bryston 4B amplifier and loved how they sounded! it’s going to be more expensive but so worth it.
@@_philchoi Cool. I was planning on using an Avantone CLA200 because poverty!!! Lol!!!
@@newgunguy4176 the nice thing about using passive speakers is that you can swap out the power amp if you end up changing it up in the future!
these sounded harsh to me. poor imaging too
How big is your room you have the monitors in?
Hey Jack, my room is 12 Ft (L) x 10 Ft (W) x 8.5 Ft (H).
@_philchoi mine is 13x19 feet. Do you think they'll be loud enough or should i focus on the 45's. Thank you so much for the info
@@jackc8120 I bought my speakers used from a guy who had a studio about that size i think for your dimensions you’d still be fine with 25’s or 45’s! I wish my room was a little bit bigger and so for the 25’s you should be good 👍🏻