Drake & Future Reference Tracks Leak
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- It's getting bad out here for Drizzy Drake, Analysts. Another reference track leaked and now everyone is again questioning his pen. But Aubrey wasn't the only one. Future's XANAX DAMAGE reference track leaked as well. Here's what I think.
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It's getting bad out here for Drizzy Drake, Analysts. Another reference track leaked and now everyone is again questioning his pen. But Aubrey wasn't the only one. Future's XANAX DAMAGE reference track leaked as well. Here's what I think.
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Drake said that he WROTE ALL HIS LYRICS!
You can't have it both ways and that is the issue.
Future isn't an emcee. Future doesn't think he is the best rapper alive
Let’s be real tho if vory dropped his version it wouldn’t be hittin the same drake’s delivery is better also if your signed to a label you have access to writers and pre made songs maxo kream even said in an interview his label made him do songs already written for him it’s not just drake it’s majority of artists signed
@lem5964 of Vory had access to the same help, it would be better. And any rapper that does what drake does can't say they are the best rapper. Idc who, snoop, kanye, none of them can be considered the goat
Drake can be the best “urban pop” artist, but the best emcee? He automatically doesn’t qualify with all of his “collaborative efforts”.
EDIT: Folks, please realize that “urban pop” is just a joke. It’s not a real thing, nor did I intend for it to be. I’m not over here tryna give some deep analysis of dude, for real. It was just a goofy way to say he’s a phony.
Honest Questions - Is “urban pop” a real sub genre? And is it widely recognized that in this context “urban” means black?
No such thing of urban pop it's just pop
@@AfroSam16 honestly, I don’t know if it is officially a real sub-genre, just 2 words I strung together that I think best describes Drake’s lane, and many others like him.
And yes, if I were the average corporate record exec, I’d use “urban pop” as an umbrella term for an artist with a palatable “black” edge. He’s Bieber with a bounce.
@@sean24833 it’s just a term I made up to solidly classify Drake. It’s not so deep, really. It’s more of a way to show how unlike us he is.
lol... drake is suburban pop performer.....nothing urban about him at all...calling him an artist after what we now know about his lack of true creativity is a stretch
I personally don’t care if future writes or not because I was never putting him in the MC category anyway.
Fantastic 4
Then what is he to you? Because you sound ridiculous
@@slumdogriohe's an entertainer, not an MC.
Yeah, I don't rank Future that highly either
@@verse8833 Lmaoo.. a M.C. - master of ceremonies, Future definitely moves the crowd! 💯 HE’S A MC whether you like it or not.
I'm irritated with this because his pen should've been in question for years before Kendrick destroying him recently.
it lowkey was during the meek mill beef era. the public just decided that they didn’t care enough to make it a big deal (for that long at least)
@@passengerpriestess Yeah, the public sided with Drake back then for some reason. Meek's weak disses didn't help, and Drake also pioneered the "internet trolling" style of rap beefs which Meek wasn't ready for.
It was.
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
@@BrayZap that’s not true though every album since take care has a reference track, artist accusing him of taking styles or a major contributions from another artist. We don’t actually know what he wrote or didn’t at this point
Ghost writing is fine if you’re an artist and you’re just going to perform the song, stay in your lane and stay collecting your checks and STFU. It becomes a problem when you are saying you’re the number 1 rapper. At this point it feels like taking steroids and cheating in sports.
This ain’t ghost writing
What ghostwriting? He literally says it's not ghostwriting in the video.
@@blunteastwood it's not creating either though. He didn't write it, he didn't even make the flow he's basically copying another artist and stealing another Persona in order to make a hit and then presenting it as his own. It's not ghostwriting but you're not expecting the goat to do that right ?
@@SEOshogunWell this isn't stealing. If you know how the process goes in the studio some will write it and have someone else demo it. Then go back and re-rap it to get the flow right. Or it would be co-written. It happens a lot.
@@Marcus-xu7hnrappers write ✍️
Singers sing. They arent required to write it's a bonus if they do write, their voice carries the song.
The party next door reference track I didn't have a problem with just because of that in regards to Drake. Melodies etc singing etc but when you rap? That is where the respect goes out the window. Rappers lyrics is the song.
Future having reference tracks doesn’t bother me. Not once has futures pen been talked about in a “goat” sense. Is he a trap goat ? Absolutely. But future doesn’t proclaim the throne like drake does.
Do you listen yourself it fine for future to have a writer but not drake so it about hating and racist against drake you so disgusting to call a human being
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
Musically it doesn't matter. But if you start calling yourself the number 1 rapper... It does!
This right here is facts. Another issue is that he has influence and younger kids looking up to him which sets a precedent that this behaviour is ok which is damaging to culture.
That’s It !!
@@lochstable1yup. Been seeing comments on the reference track leaks and some people prefer drakes “version”
100%
@@DOODOOBUTT_😂😂😂😂😂
I think part of why this is so bad for Drake is that he really doesn't put any of his ghostwriters on. If he led with the fact that he was collaborating with all these smaller people, and not just whatever wave he was hopping on it would show that he was giving back. But Drake feels like a Comic book publisher that would rather you just like Batman and not ask questions about what happened to Bill Finger.
What a comparison. That was well said.
They’re not ghostwriters. They have song credit on the track
they all have credits so they recieve royalties and if he won a grammy, they'd win as well. that's nonsense.
@@decarmo You may get the writing credit on the album, but if you're in a bad publishing deal you may not always get great checks. Depends on your contract and personal situation according to things I've read and heard.
Quentin Miller was definitely credited and not a ghost writer. He said so himself.
Drake feels like a company that's a monopoly. The minute any other notable talent pops up, he swoops in and uses his superstar status and money to buy it up and absorb it into his own brand. And that's how he lasts. He squelches competition and innovation to sustain himself. No one else is allowed to grow around him.
Love this!!
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
The man has to make up for a $400 million contract. He has no time to wait 3 years to produce like some of the great lyricists.
@@BrayZapbot
he's a pop star. we've been trying to tell these drake stans.
thats why had to Pop Style
Haters😂
100 billion streams next month
@@mpendulombhele5036that’s all he has.
Money. power. Respect (The last one is better)
@@Tom_bradys_unretirement it's a lot of goofies with a cheque
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
Pusha like "oh NOW y'all care about ghostwriters???"
Niggas really wrote me off like a really killed a ghost
I been cutoff Drake before Pusha T I didn’t know they was battling because I don’t listen to Drake
Meek Mill ??? Hello
lol exactly 😂
@@TexasHN45BULLSHIT 😂😂😂
Also drake having reference tracks but claiming to be the goat is like Kevin Durant saying he a goat but forgetting he went to golden state
Excellent analogy
LOUDER FOR THE IGNANT IN THE BACK
@@SyteJacksonthank you. Kevin & Drake parallels are insane. Both had/have clear goat potential. Both ruined it with taking the easy route.
@@TheCompanyManthey not listening big dawg
@@Deontelewis846 i disagree on that GOAT potential tho. Neither one of them could’ve been the GOAT. But they definitely ruined being in the conversation of great
Binary Star said it best.
You have hip hop, and you have hip-pop!
This is like selling mass produced manufactured product vs creating and selling one-of-a-kind art.
Right. Assembly line raps.
I think I just realized what it is about the OVO Sweatshops that I really do hate the most. It's that the entire label exists to prop up Drake as a solo artist. Back in the day, when you had setups like what OVO has, you remember what you would do? You would start a rap group, a band if you will, and you'd put a whole team of people front and center. You think 50 Cent wrote every verse he ever rapped in G-Unit? I don't know if he did or didn't, but my point is that when you're doing group music like that, working as a group is celebrated!
Snoop dog talk say jay-z write a hit rap for them kanye say drake write his rap for him 21 savage say drake help him with so of his rap what I am say when they all in the studio they all help out each other with their rap .they all get help with each other so leave drake alone you miserable low life
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
@@BrayZap drakes so bad daylyt cant make him sound good
Just a reminder drakes first ghost writer claims were actually in 09 with “I’m going in” he didn’t write that verse
Send the link please
@@marklap1224 to have this happen so early in his career. Really makes me question his hat exactly has he written? Why would Drake need help at the start of his career. When he should be his most fresh and creative? Especially with everything that’s coming out now. So I don’t want to hear about Drake and his “pen game” ever again
You believe anything
yes!! There's a video with very few views and comments calling him out years and years ago....
@@HazelwoodBoy250 and you are naive to everything including the facts or clues. If you were a detective you would have a zero % solve rate. The guy nickalelus f wrote the “I’m going in” verse back in 09
If a reference track for “5 AM in Toronto” leaks I’m going to LOSE IT
😮
😂😂😂
lol 😂
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
5am in Toronto is better than anything Kenny has ever put out
Today, rap music is NOT Hip-Hop, it's a business.
Look at the writers on his disses. Kendrick best like 8 guys by himself lol
beat*
When a producer of a song uses a sample on a song from a certain artist, those artists get credited as writers. Doesn’t mean they wrote on the song.
@@MrASAPABno. Look at the credits again. The producers to Pushups were on the song as producers they were also on the song as songwriters 😂 sometimes the same people were on both producer and songwriter, two of them in specific used their rap stage name on producer credits and use their government name on songwriter. I don't know how to spell the names on the top of my head but just Google the producer names for Push ups and Google the songwriters you will see they are the same people. They are also rappers and songwriters meaning Drake was getting help with his diss tracks.
@@davidcici11Evolution so "Matthew Samuels" wrote Kendricks n95 too based on your logic 🤦🤷
@@AngeBiampandou”to best” someone is saying one has “beat” another
He gave vory credit but it was hidden with all the other people he gave credit to as if everyone put in a little effort and they worked together to make the song no vory did the whole song
To me the problem is his saying he is the best rapper and then lied about it on Lebrons showtime show.
I'm sure he got paid tho
Omg it’s all happening at 2am 😨😳
You forgot to add Drake on Lebrons show said he wrote the whole song Mob Ties
It’s all happening!
lol understatement
Kendrick removed a bottom brick and the whole foundations started dropping
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His entire discography is full of reference tracks and borrowed lyrics. That’s why Kdot said his shit classic and he didn’t have one. Let his core audience stomach that
I honestly never thought Drake had a classic rap album. Key word is rap album. And I think people don't understand the difference between a good album and a classic album
All Drakes RNB Pop rap albums are his best album. Take Care in my opinion is his best album, I think Scorpion and if you are reading this it's too late are good albums but aren't necessarily classic albums.
Drake has a lot of filler on his album plenty of skips, but he also has a few hits etc.
Interestingly Take Care is more of an RNB album. Also more than half of that album was written by the weekend.
That would be the equivalent of saying Tyler the Creator Igor album is a rap classic album. It's not it's a pop album, quite honestly I don't even know what f***** genre that album belongs in but it definitely isn't rap, despite it winning best rap album at the Grammys even Tyler was confused by it winning in that category etc.
Does Drake have any classic rap albums? No.
Does Drake have any classic albums? One...maybe. Drake makes good albums not classic ones. And his last four albums were 🗑️
Love that line.
Take Care is classic and everyone here is on that man’s dick trying to find mental gymnastics to disqualify him. Nobody cares ninja got a ghost writer. Almost every single musical artist before 1990 had writers. Drake having writers discredits his writing ability. It doesn’t make his music a single bit worse than it would be if he wrote it himself. Ni**as trying to find ways to think their way into Drake being bad. As if Drake was some conscious rapper like talib or something. Drake hasn’t been on that in 10 years. Insanely talented with his voice and from the beginning that’s what’s had him at the top. Everybody thinks they’re clever talking about his pen. You know what he for sure uses that pen to write? Signatures on the checks he brings to the bank. Where’s the takedown of Kanye at?
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
@@davidcici11Evolutionjust because you don't know music or "personally like Drake" doesn't mean songs are skips. If you think there's skips on Nothing Was the Same, Thank Me Later, If you're reading this it's too late, etc when you're clearly just a hating dumbass
It Drake didn't classify himself as a emcee...its not a problem. He should just switch music genres.
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
Not all references involve ghostwriting. Some of them preserve the bars written and just demonstrate to an artist how to say them on the mic.
Right. There's no one and only way to go about it
Somebody on threads said Drake is like The Beach Boys and other “golden era” groups who got their hits from a different culture and used it to further their own brand.
justin also said he's 'elvis in his final form', i 100% recommend you watch at least the clip, he puts it best
No Drake is more like Milli Vanilli, thats a better example.
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
Always refreshing to see your notifications Jus’ 🤙🔥 . This rap beef has rejuvenated me.
Keep 'em coming Justin!!! keep em' coming!!!
Jheez Justin loving all the frequent content!
Great to see this channel growing 👍🏾
Thank you! Yall are the illest.
my biggest issue with drake is he fronts and postures way too much, and it’s honestly sad seeing him try to pander to everyone, you can’t tell me he doesn’t look schizophrenic, going back and forth between zesty drake and mob ties drake. idk if that’s the way he is or if he changed along the way or if UMG is making him do all this. but for real, drake, who are you really??
He's so owned it's hard to tell who he really is.
Think this is the moment where people need to ask if they want a great artist or a good performer, cause it becoming more apparent that aubrey might just be a performer
Michael Jackson vs Prince was a good encapsulation of these two artists..
Dope vid Justin and this is Wild , what does buddy even write??
Starting my day off right! It’s all happening!
This proves Drake isn't an MC and is an entertainer. He is cosplaying.
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE IGNANT IN THE BACK
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
There's a difference between rapper and MC.
You are back in a major way. #itsallhappening
Damn at 2 am? You really are on a run and we love it!
“It’s all happening” -Mr J. Hunte 😤
BIGFAX
Man is literally rapping about a life he never lived. Of course he needs help. There's literally video footage of him talking shit about Toronto slang. Future been fake btw. Ain't nobody seen him actually do the drugs he can't stop talking about.
If I was famous and High, I wouldn't go outside or post it online either.
You cannot and will not be labeled the greatest if you don’t write your own bars. Drake was out of the running a long time ago.
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
Summer 2015 No kids , a pair of blue beats and some white girls mountain bike riding around listening to charged up like why Aubrey 😂😂😂
Charged Up is so underrated
@@kang6914 it was a moment I realized most people don’t understand Art
@@JosiahAli I think it was one of those records that aged better and better with time. One of those that you might sleep on in the moment but it just gets better and better the more you listen. I used to play that song over and over lol
@@kang6914 my first listen I was like bruh hit this nigga with that flow flow and then the next hour or so and I think my brother Darrin who is a Psychologist of Hip Hop explained the approach and it clicked it was one or the other but right away I was taken back
@@JosiahAli yeah this comment just made me listen to it again it’s a classic in my eyes. Very calculated approach.
This isn’t a revelation, but this is still another L on Drake's jacket. Drake is the number 1 narrator of all time.
Drake has compition even as a narrator because Kendrick can also narrate.
@@EchoGuzmanKendrick writes his narration.
@@davidcici11Evolution Kendrick def does write his own and is a top performer just like Drake. Drake like Obama said is a great performer but so is Kendrick. My point is even if Drake wants to claim top performer he has compition in that too
@@EchoGuzman better word is entertainer not performer
@@Donomac761 Yea that's a better word for Drake for sure
This is a good explanation
Thanks, Queen.🙏🏿
I'm just happy Everyone is finally figuring out Drake is fake, YEARS later.
People are just reaching and grasping for any reason to down Drake cause he's been the best for the past 15 years and will for another 15 years. Dude clearly writes his own songs, if 1 song is "referenced" out of like 20 who tf cares? They aren't even considered his best works. I think uneducated people need to go listen to Room for Improvement, Comeback Season, and his other works even before Thank Me Later where he was rapping in his basement on a camcorder lmao. You think people are writing for him when he isn't even an artist yet? People are clowns
I love the degenerates making it sound like mob mentality. "Everyone" is like 1% of the world's listeners sitting on reddit and youtube everyday bashing him cause they're haters and have nothing else to do with their lives. Dude is going to continue dropping and everyone is going to eat it up. People have been trying to push this on Drake for years and it never worked
@@BrayZap please tell me about the other fantasies you believe in, child.
Inspiration is a pretty generous word for it lol
Your on a legendary run yourself Justin!!
Thanks Sean! It's all happening!
We gotta stop holding Drake to the rules of hip hop. Hip hop is a culture. Something you live. Rap is a something you actively do. Pop is a genre of music for the mainstream audience. These days you can be a rapper but not be part of the hip hop culture which rap originated from. If your primary intentions are to compete with pop stars for both Grammys and record sales by way of having a team of writers, congratulations you are a pop artist. And coincidentally, Drake even called himself a popstar. The reason artists like Kanye don't get the similar push-back is because Kanye 1- Kanye is transparent about writers 2- He doesn't proclaim to be the best MC and 3- Kanye is from the culture.
Well said.
DX ain’t DX without you fam. Even when Murs (respected) stepped in it didn’t hit the same #salute
Bruh I don’t have the money to give you right now but when I can I will 100%.
I LOVE your content, even if I don’t agree sometimes.
Thanks man. No worries at all. If you can share the good word, that’s all I ask.
Bobby Raps… not Bobby Rags 😉 he also wrote a bunch on World on Drugs… I think he helped on Fine China if i remember correct
Okay I understand that having writing teams is highly recognized in pretty much all of music at this point. I’m not mad at that. Here’s where it’s pissing me off: How many in your writing teams have ever been developed or did a feature with you or put out their own albums on OVO? It’s like you with Drake and you become the help. I truthfully think that’s what Kendrick meant. It’s like in business when the boss doesn’t take care his workers his workers turn on him eventually. Promising Pearls & feeding them Swill will always leave you vulnerable.
Yeah, that's nasty work. They call OVO Sweatshop for a reason. We'll see what happens with 4Batz.
@@TheCompanyMan I already called the plan. It’s the same thing that happened in 2018. Release with a singer with someone just as popular as you are (See Camilla Cabao recent single) and within six months there will be a new album. Instead of rebranding his and OVO’s image as a sweatshop by turning it into the biggest money move possible.
Miss the Shade 45 segments
Me too!
I think the most surprising thing about all of this to me is that people actually believed Drake wrote Mob Ties in the first place
YEEZUS!
lol 😂
Future wrote Drunk In Love
Man's out here sounding like Obama and owning a PS5. You can't lose brother✅️💪🏾
When it rains it pours for the 6-God.
I understand: "recycling, or re-reciting something cause you just like it, so you say it just like it" as Wayne would say, but this feels...different.
It really does. I'm so curious about where this goes.
If it comes out today that Pac, Big and Nas had help. I would look at them differently, I don't wanna lie
But pac was a bigger actor than Drake and all that gangster shit was fake as hell tf?
@@GTARecordsTv How can you be a "fake gangster" and die due to being involved in gang activities? LoL
Is it dumb? Yes
Was he an actor as well? Yes
Was he from the hood? Yes
But that's the PINNACLE of gangsterism!!!
@@dually81 what hood was he from ? What actual set was he apart of?
This man was privileged mom and dad … went to art school …
Do that sound like one of us?
Iono where you grew up but I’m from 6 mile n Chalmers - Eastside Detroit 80’s baby… we couldn’t afford school let alone an acting career in our teens … you need parents for that! We lost our Mothers n Fathers very early due to drugs in the “HOOD” in the 80’s .
And to make matters worse he was probably homosexual early in his career… along with people like Drake / Will Smith … it’s the industry bro
@@GTARecordsTv I'm an '80s baby Bay Area born, West Coast raised.
Daddy was a Detroit pimp, addict, and found NOI behind the wall. My momma was a revolutionary Black Panther turned addict & scammer, similar to Pac. My momma abandoned me at 13 homie.
You're clearly ill-informed, have not properly done your research on Tupac Shakur, or have that weird Pac animosity if you believe he lived a privileged life... LoL
You also don't understand how scholarships for private & art's school work. Underprivileged kids from the hood that are talented can get into these schools, but at the end of the day they are still from the hood and live the same traumatized lives as you and I my brotha.
Drake is the Johnny Bravo of Hip Hop. Brady Bunch Deep Cut
3:04 Where's the link to that 17 minute video?
EDIT: Thanks!
No its not. Here you go. x.com/CurtisBashar/status/1795480463907393958
“Idc if it kills me** im gonna relapse” lmao dude said the lyrics wrong immediately after they played
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Bro.. where have you been?! I went off on the Hip-hop DX comment section the other day.. not sure what's going on there but your presence and knowledge is sorely missing there..
back feeling focused and free. Thanks for checking for me. What'd you say in the comments?
@@TheCompanyMan good to hear.. I didn't remember my exact words or even which video but I got tired of them not adding any value to the conversation. I even asked where YOU were lol.. I remember a few years ago how you would break things down and give valuable perspective.. right now they're just passing along gossip and nonsense with zero real knowledge of hip-hop.
Traditions will be thrown out the window if Drake is considered the best emcee of all time. Hip Hop can’t lose its identity, it shouldn’t even be an option
Kinda sucks to hear multiple reference tracks for artists that claim to be the best rapper. What’s even more damning about the reference tracks is that it exposes the fact that rappers like Drake also don’t create the flow. Seems like they get hits given to them on a platter.
Yeah, that's the part that's disppointing to me too.
Bro i create everything lol the reference tracks i had were crap and i changed the whole song and beat 😂
If your focus is charting and Grammys then you’re just an employee. Not an artists
You don't think artists should be celebrated through awards and chart success?
@@TheCompanyMan Of course they should. My point is with desire. It’s like in film, there are “Oscar Bait” movies. Films made with the desire to win an Oscar, not make a film so great that it wins one.
If a musician’s main focus is accolades, they’re pretty much an entertainer in my eyes. Not an artists, and either is ok btw
I've been telling people for years that Side A of Scorpion is his last classic. Mob Ties and Can't Take a Joke are my 2 favorite on the album.
What the hell did Drake write though, makes you wonder
Uh look up Room for Improvement and Comeback Season that he practically recorded in his basement with a camcorder... those are clearly no way written by anyone else cause he wasn't even a name at the time and people loved it
An Actor just doing what they do best , recite and memorize other ppls Penmanship!
They literally want me to use writers to.
dropped a fire beat 2 days ago
Kendrick’s Mr Morale album has a lot of songwriters credits out there. Some songs have up to 11 writers including Kendrick. He’s still a great lyricist but 95% of your favorites do this shit
Songwriting credits include sonic composition, not only lyrics.
Artists taking other peoples art and claiming it as their own is weak to me. Rick Beato just did a video on who is bigger, the Beatles or Taylor Swift and the main point I took away was, for all their number one hits and innovation to the music, the Beatles only ever had three song writers, John, Paul and George. The guys in the band. Taylor Swifts music is made by committee largely. I understand this is the way the industry works, but whoever liked "the industry" over the artistry? Just got more respect for writers and less for their pimps. Its all happening.
Appreciate you man. 👍
Great point. The industry so consolidated now that writing camps are also a necessary means to help artists eat.
@@TheCompanyMan yes! Saw an interview clip recently where an artist was saying writing for DrDre ruined him for writing. He thought he was coming in with these other guys to each pen their own verse, but they were like, nope, thats not it. Dre plays the beat and everybody writes an opening line, whoever got it, thats the line. Next line, go. He said that it was undeniable that using that method youd always be getting the best lines on a level that one person could never do alone.
But to my mind, could a camp of writers tell stories the way Kendrick does over the course of a full album, knowing where he needs to go and being able to keep the themes and characters alive throughout? I dont have the answers to these questions lol But two lines at a time seems short sighted to me.
*wish I could remember who the artist was.
We already give them grace for ‘representing hip hop’, that’s baked into how we rate them. So every album should be a classic if you’re just picking songs to steal from a hard drive.. right?
Cameron did that same thing to Jay Z when I was in high school. It was long like this Drake 17 min joint.
I remember that shit “I’m not a writer I’m a biter” 😅
I say a BIG verse I'm only bigging up my brother.
Future spit out Save me and Hendrix, both felt hollow so this explains a lot
i came here to hear the line "shakespeaing shakedown" and i wasnt dissapointed
Just wanna say it’s Bobby Raps and he’s super talented and has bangers of his own
At least I got it right in the description. No disrespect intended. Sometimes my mind slips.
@@TheCompanyMan oh no disrespect detected, just wanted to let anybody know because he’s dope and they should check out his stuff. Keep up the good work
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He's a talented writer but what did he actually write??
Are top chart positions and awards that important for an artist to eat? To earn a decent living? Because that's the reason I hear used widely for the importance of ghostwriters.
It is. Longevity as well. Artists have to survive changing demographics. Also, the more people on your team who are part of different labels, the more wide spread voter support you get during the grammys.
Talent and success are not mutually exclusive.
Another one..... Milli vallini BBL drizzy haven't wrote anything in life.... Believe it that the Pop star it's not a true MC we don't see him as a great here in NYC Ong
I feel Bad for the talented emcees that don‘t geht Their shine
I see Justin upload, I click
Producers get writing credit so sometimes the general public can get confused. Drake understands that just because someone is credited doesnt necessarily mean the wrote on it. UNTIL THE REFERENCE TRACKS COME OUT😂😂😂😂
"I'm not a bitter, I'm a writer for myself and others..."
I dont know, man. Saying this "Whoever supposedly makin' me hits But then got no hits sound like they need me My hooks did it, my lyrics did it My spirit did it, I'm fearless with it," when your getting "support" from writers rooms sounds manipulative to me. Like something that Drake fans point to as why he's one the best is his consistency, and if you're being assisted by teams of writers it feels like the consistency is because of the support and leaning on other artists to the extent that you do. It feels less self-made, but algorithmic and machine made success.
Can't call yourself the best in this genre. It's okay to have help, but you can't claim the Goat title.
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Exactly.
Everybody knows when you say another artist's lyrics you're putting money in their pocket.. sometimes that's the point in the industry.
It’s fine to have songs written for you as an artist because it’s a different standard…IF YOU CALL YOURSELF THE BEST RAPPER THEN YOUR REFERENCE TRACKS RELEASE THAT SOMEONE ELSE WROTE…YOU ARE NOT THE BEST MC…YOURE NOT A RAPPER AT ALL YOURE A GREAT ENTERTAINER BUT THATS WHERE IT STOPS
To quote hip hop's other biracial black Jewish man, Daveed Diggs, "truth, like death, comes for everyone."
We need that reference track to family matters
I think he wrote that. It feels like it to me. WHo knows, though.
Damn drake catch a break this ruins him you ask me
Hell nah
I hate when I click on a video expecting just to see the facts. Only to hear some random person talking
Everyone still talking about Drake yet we gonna glide over Future having songs made for him too. Ya’ll pretending like we didn’t just see that.
Yeah, that's why I included it in the video. People don't care because Future doesn't claim he's the GOAT.
He can't put himself on a lyricist top Mount Rushmore. It's obvious that his fanbase doesn't care about ghostwriters. Btw I don't think Drake wrote Back 2 Back, Duppy Freestyle or Family Matters.
Who do you think wrote Back 2 Back?
This disqualifying him from Hip Hop Mcee talk is a complete fallacy. If we know for a fact that he writes amazing (for himself and others) & writes incredible verses (time stamps, church hill downs) what does it matter if he’s collaborating on making songs for the charts? Do you think artists are so prideful they aren’t willing to Collab on music to make hits? Let’s be real. The man is a talented song writer, rewriter, performer. He had an amazing ear for music to take a record and make a hit. He also can write a song and make a hit too. Rap purist wanna disqualify him for being dope at both?? You’re favorite rapper can’t do what Drake does with hit records, it’s a skill, so what does that dock him points?
Mob Ties is a kanye diss. Dude got a ghost written diss track.🤷🏿♂️
I can dig rapping, but a rapper with a ghost writer? What the fuck happened?
Swore I wouldn't tell..... but most of yall sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk in a two man cell.