It's a combination of contact time and height. No-spin shots don't stay on the racket long, because there's no spin to "dig" into the ball. That's why he's telling the player to brush these more; you need to increase the contact time or it'll slip and become random. Backspin is easier to kill / rip because the backspin digs into the racket, so it won't slip. You still have to change the racket angle or whatnot, but you can put more force into the ball without worrying about it slipping. There's also the issue with height. If the ball is high, it's always easier to rip. ZJK mentions it a couple times throughout the video, but the main point of the demonstration at the end was to emphasize that a low ball, even when spinless, is harder to handle than a high ball, even if the high one is heavy spin. If you want to rip the ball, height is more important than spin!
I think he is only ripping / killing spinny shots, often ones that are slightly higher. no-spin shots don't stay on the racket as long, so it's harder to kill them because you run the risk of it slipping off. That's why he was instructing the student to brush more on the no-spin loops. However, when there's heavy backspin on the ball, you can hit harder and kill it easier because the backspin "bites" into the racket, so you don't have to worry about slipping. Heavier backspin chops (especially from inverted or short pips) tend to pop up a bit more, also making it easier to rip. At least that's my understanding of the scenario!
@@bhavsarpriyansh For inverted/short pips, you make heavier spin by chopping underneath the ball, instead of reversing spin like long pips. It's like a heavy backspin / no spin serve; you make more spin by going under the ball instead of touching the back of the ball. When you chop the bottom of the ball, more of your force is being converted into friction instead of speed, so you get a slower, spinnier ball. However, that means you need to "arc" the ball up a bit more to get it over the net, since there's now less speed. If you chop the back of the ball, you get a flatter trajectory but less spin. You could try coming under the ball but chopping with more force to get to get more spin AND more speed, but this is difficult to do against faster loops. That's why ZJK says not to slow loop at short pip choppers; it gives them time to come in and rip a chop with many variations. If you loop 60-70% force against short pip choppers, they have to A) chop the back of the ball giving a lower, no-spin ball or B) chop under the ball giving a higher, heavier spin ball. I like short pip chopping and am sticking with it for the time being, but loopers who can consistently loop with spin and speed give me the most trouble, since it's harder for me to introduce variations
I think rip refers hitting the ball hard with the intension of finishing the point, while brush focuses on just generating spin with minimal force to make the ball cross the net.
Rip is a powerloop with strong forward force, "through the ball". It usually gives a cracking sound when the blade is engaged in the contact, especially with Chinese rubbers. Some guys call it "hit-spin".
If the angle was directed at anyone else's back I woulda complained.
Very good lesson !
thanks you very much! i need this now!
How can you rip heavy backspin but not with no spin, can someone please explain?
It's a combination of contact time and height.
No-spin shots don't stay on the racket long, because there's no spin to "dig" into the ball. That's why he's telling the player to brush these more; you need to increase the contact time or it'll slip and become random. Backspin is easier to kill / rip because the backspin digs into the racket, so it won't slip. You still have to change the racket angle or whatnot, but you can put more force into the ball without worrying about it slipping.
There's also the issue with height. If the ball is high, it's always easier to rip. ZJK mentions it a couple times throughout the video, but the main point of the demonstration at the end was to emphasize that a low ball, even when spinless, is harder to handle than a high ball, even if the high one is heavy spin. If you want to rip the ball, height is more important than spin!
@StefanChoy Oh now I understood, thanks dude
I think the best way how identity ball spinny or not - length of ball
8:03 - who can explain ZJ's method?
I think he is only ripping / killing spinny shots, often ones that are slightly higher. no-spin shots don't stay on the racket as long, so it's harder to kill them because you run the risk of it slipping off. That's why he was instructing the student to brush more on the no-spin loops. However, when there's heavy backspin on the ball, you can hit harder and kill it easier because the backspin "bites" into the racket, so you don't have to worry about slipping. Heavier backspin chops (especially from inverted or short pips) tend to pop up a bit more, also making it easier to rip. At least that's my understanding of the scenario!
@@StefanChoy Can you explain why heavier chops should pop up as It should go inside the net instead of popping
@@bhavsarpriyansh For inverted/short pips, you make heavier spin by chopping underneath the ball, instead of reversing spin like long pips. It's like a heavy backspin / no spin serve; you make more spin by going under the ball instead of touching the back of the ball.
When you chop the bottom of the ball, more of your force is being converted into friction instead of speed, so you get a slower, spinnier ball. However, that means you need to "arc" the ball up a bit more to get it over the net, since there's now less speed. If you chop the back of the ball, you get a flatter trajectory but less spin.
You could try coming under the ball but chopping with more force to get to get more spin AND more speed, but this is difficult to do against faster loops. That's why ZJK says not to slow loop at short pip choppers; it gives them time to come in and rip a chop with many variations. If you loop 60-70% force against short pip choppers, they have to A) chop the back of the ball giving a lower, no-spin ball or B) chop under the ball giving a higher, heavier spin ball.
I like short pip chopping and am sticking with it for the time being, but loopers who can consistently loop with spin and speed give me the most trouble, since it's harder for me to introduce variations
@@StefanChoy Oh I see thanks
What exactly is the definition of "rip"?
i think it's a strong and fast loop to score a point directly to distinguish from the spinny loop
a very sharp, abrupt, explosive stroke. not a precise term but used widely
I think rip refers hitting the ball hard with the intension of finishing the point, while brush focuses on just generating spin with minimal force to make the ball cross the net.
I want to know this too
Rip is a powerloop with strong forward force, "through the ball". It usually gives a cracking sound when the blade is engaged in the contact, especially with Chinese rubbers. Some guys call it "hit-spin".
Camera angle's bad.
yeah
In Hindi make video .
Too much talking and not enought working