50 Year Old Martin Guitar vs Brand New Martin Guitar - Which Sounds Better?

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  • @gwag8410
    @gwag8410 5 лет назад +553

    I heard an old guy say one time, it takes a guitar 20 years to figure out it’s not a tree anymore.
    Both guitars sound very nice.

    • @lgtw8438
      @lgtw8438 5 лет назад +23

      I have a 72 D 35. I played every D 35 in Elpaso Tx and this one was head and shoulders better than all the rest. Martin's vary ALOT! Some of them are special, some are not.

    • @TheBigGuppy
      @TheBigGuppy 5 лет назад +11

      Yup, That's what all the old Martin guys say.

    • @oaktree1628
      @oaktree1628 5 лет назад +14

      LGTW - if that is true, then that reflects poorly on overall quality control at Martin through the years.

    • @hi99ins
      @hi99ins 5 лет назад +3

      @@oaktree1628 I think its because its the combination of the brace sculpting (and its grain), the body/ neck wood grain and a few other things that makes each one unique. I don;t think there's any reasonable quality control that can detect the difference to be able to implement any quality regime in that respect.

    • @livingadreamlife1428
      @livingadreamlife1428 5 лет назад +1

      N M Varies depending on the width of the grain of the wood. Also, the drier the wood, the better the sound.

  • @rmyAddison
    @rmyAddison 5 лет назад +92

    Nice playing lads...........
    My birthyear is 1949, and I've owned 37 Martins over 50 years of playing. Older is better, never owned a Martin that didn't sound better with time, wood changes, finishes gas, age mellows.
    It's very hard to compare models from different decades, specs change too. FWIW I retired with my personal favorites (CS OM-28 Alpine/Madagscar, OM-18 Authentic '33, OM-45 TB Engelmann/Tasmanian Blackwood, CS 00-42 Adirondack/Madagascar). Age turned the dreads/jumbos into smaller sizes as with many older players, to me Martin OM's are the perfect do anything size. A life full of music is a well lived one....................

    • @toddbishop8357
      @toddbishop8357 4 года назад +3

      I will stick with my fg820 😀

    • @susanroycroft89
      @susanroycroft89 7 месяцев назад

      And I picked up an old FG 180, from '74, put a bone nut and saddĺe on and Wow what a remarkable guitar ( 3/ piece back ) ​though it's a laminate top, it sounds incredible😊😊@@toddbishop8357

    • @billstralo7907
      @billstralo7907 5 месяцев назад

      I have a 73 d-28, I have played new ones mine sound more full aound and longer sustain. The wood resins hardens over time giving more of a bell tone, also the wood fibers elongate allowing the top more movement. Older is better for sure.

  • @39MercFlathead
    @39MercFlathead 5 лет назад +66

    Back in the 1960s a girlfriend's father gave me a 1910 0-28 with the original coffin case. It had been his wife's guitar. Both case and guitar were in magnificent condition. I played it for a year and after I broke up with the girl, I returned the guitar. Just too much guilt keeping something like that. But I often think of it and hope it is doing well and entertaining people.

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 Год назад +13

      It's good to hear form people who can share what life was like in that era of time. I'm not so sure that people have the same ethic today to return a gift that way.

    • @christopherhawthorne5395
      @christopherhawthorne5395 11 месяцев назад +1

      Would be cool to find that guitar again that would be a sweet story.
      Good thing you gave it back- cause if it made you feel some type of way, then you prolly feel a lot better

    • @onehundredpicks5531
      @onehundredpicks5531 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@qua7771gift is a gift man.

    • @paulshearman138
      @paulshearman138 6 месяцев назад +2

      The new Martin has so much life in the sound and will mature even better I would imagine

    • @70mcnevin
      @70mcnevin 2 месяца назад

      Your retirement guitar... dude....

  • @fergar0206
    @fergar0206 5 лет назад +124

    Solution: buy a new one when you're young and enjoy it as it evolves

    • @beverlymichael5830
      @beverlymichael5830 3 года назад +4

      Yes that is what I did in 1969. Got my d18 new in 69. Still have it today and in excellent condition.

    • @mrericchwang
      @mrericchwang 3 года назад

      Exactly what I did. Bought a very close to new OMJM that I’ll play for years

    • @CardinalJHA
      @CardinalJHA 3 года назад +3

      I started playing quite late, I heard a while back that you could sit it on a stand by your TV/music system or whatever you have playing sound a lot, the vibrations from the noise simulating play time, giving the guitar that vintage sound quickly. Whether or not it's TRUE is different, but also seems another possible solution

    • @beverlymichael5830
      @beverlymichael5830 3 года назад +5

      @@CardinalJHA yes as long as the wood is vibrating. I heard a bluegrass player had a Martin he was not real fond of. Let it sit near a stereo for some time. It was totally different guitar and he loved the sound

    • @beverlymichael5830
      @beverlymichael5830 3 года назад

      I agree. I have always bought new and watch them become awesome martins. And to hear it evolve into itself and it’s own sound. I still have my 69 d18 I bought new. We grew up together. Not the same when buying used.

  • @Moonshot568
    @Moonshot568 5 лет назад +28

    To my ears the new Martin sound much fuller much nicer , the old one looks pretty .

  • @patmillen9162
    @patmillen9162 5 лет назад +135

    I crave warmth in an acoustic... the vintage one is an easy choice for me.

    • @rylanfutch8849
      @rylanfutch8849 5 лет назад +6

      Yes, I definitely thought it was slightly more mellow than the new one. New one is brighter.

    • @zacharyohare2118
      @zacharyohare2118 5 лет назад +2

      Go play a seagull super warm balanced sounds

    • @patmillen9162
      @patmillen9162 5 лет назад +2

      @@zacharyohare2118 I actually just bought a new acoustic last year... Seagulls are nice for sure, but I went with a Larrivee D-03R. It is beyond amazing.

    • @Jonwsm
      @Jonwsm 5 лет назад +3

      Try a cedar or mahogany top.

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 5 лет назад +3

      It's brighter the opposite of warmer.

  • @chaingangzta13
    @chaingangzta13 5 лет назад +321

    Do a "Gilmore's 3.9 million strat vs his signature strat"

    • @Arcturian1111
      @Arcturian1111 5 лет назад

      lol

    • @torzsokszilveszter2444
      @torzsokszilveszter2444 5 лет назад +17

      Gilmoure strat vs Squire bullet strat (second hand)

    • @alexoller22
      @alexoller22 5 лет назад +2

      Julius Estrada “A” Gilmore black strat? It’sTHE Gilmore 3.9 mil black strat. The one and only... That’s why they paid that kind of money!!!

    • @alexoller22
      @alexoller22 5 лет назад

      Darian Hall lol you’re so right

    • @ricklewis5804
      @ricklewis5804 5 лет назад +3

      Julius Estrada
      Gilmour

  • @tonyfdesign
    @tonyfdesign 5 лет назад +68

    Bottom line: new, or old, Martin makes a beautiful guitar. Bonus points for not banging them together on the 34 passes back and forth!

    • @joshiuahallenbeck531
      @joshiuahallenbeck531 5 лет назад

      Be a little picky about buying newer Martins. Personally if I had the cash I would buy older. Last year I traded away a year old 000-18 due to a bad neck set. I could have just gotten a dud but I asked around and others have had problems as well.

  • @poinkero
    @poinkero 4 года назад +17

    The old one sound kinda loose, and lively. The new one sounds full but tight. It's like the strings on the new one has restriction in its movement.

  • @gurleyz
    @gurleyz 5 лет назад +48

    Age makes a huge difference in both electric and acoustic guitars, but its much more noticeable in acoustics. The woods just blossum with age it seems. Even old laminated Yamahas have an amazing sound which many prefer to all solid wood guitars.

    • @KozmykJ
      @KozmykJ 5 лет назад +2

      For sure.
      I have an old Eko Ranger VI which has mellowed beautifully.
      Not just my opinion. Sounds much better than you'd expect from a plywood body and a screw-on neck.
      Got her s/h in the late 80s.
      I'd still love to have a nice Martin though.
      Need a lottery win ...

    • @notapplicable328
      @notapplicable328 Год назад

      I’ve got a vintage fg-110e. It’s a smaller OOO sized thing but your definitely right. They developed such a full rounded tone it’s impossible not to love playing them!!

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 Год назад

      I believe this to be true, but like anything, there are going to be common misconceptions.
      Overly dry guitars sound amazing, but are not structurally sound, and cannot always be easily repaired.
      Aging may not make a bad sounding guitar sound better.
      There is a lot more to the aging process than the woods moisture. There is something biological, and physical taking place over time. Flat tops, aren't really flat, and all the parts are under some tension.
      I got one shipped from the factory that sounded horrible the first day, and didn't project well. It sounded substantially better after a few days. I noticed that the shipping label was damp, so it was safe to assume that the guitar had been exposed to high humidity which would explain things.

  • @thatmg
    @thatmg 5 лет назад +32

    I wouldnt say that the new one is "brighter" id say it sounds "tighter" to my ears.
    It has more mids.

    • @josephochoa5230
      @josephochoa5230 5 лет назад +1

      Marcello Gonçalves you are exactly right. I thought the same.

    • @TheDennzio
      @TheDennzio 3 года назад +1

      Exactly my impression

  • @torbenmeldgaard8112
    @torbenmeldgaard8112 5 лет назад +154

    "Filmed on location at Andertons Honolulu" 😘

    • @LPCustom3
      @LPCustom3 5 лет назад +1

      I'm sure they wished they were in Hawaii...

    • @dezionlion
      @dezionlion 5 лет назад

      I know I do
      ALOHA!

    • @524coconut
      @524coconut 5 лет назад +2

      I lost my shit for a minute and thought there was a hidden Andertons here in honolulu😭

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 5 лет назад +35

    Pete and Lee are always an unpredictable and amazing combo in playing! Both guitars sound great!

    • @bobchambers8327
      @bobchambers8327 5 лет назад

      Unpredictable?? Do you know the definition of that word?

    • @RC32Smiths01
      @RC32Smiths01 5 лет назад +1

      @@bobchambers8327 I mean that they don't typically do the same kind of jam twice. They are always new and fresh in playing imo

  • @kevinwest5456
    @kevinwest5456 2 года назад +16

    As long as it’s a Martin, I’ll love it. I’ve played every acoustic you can imagine over my 40+ years of playing and at the end of the day I’ll always choose Martin.

    • @stephenhenion8304
      @stephenhenion8304 2 года назад +1

      Me 🎵🎶🎵 too....

    • @ericmadeoftin8206
      @ericmadeoftin8206 2 года назад +1

      They just sound and feel better. Play a string loud or way up the neck or muted or ringing, etc, the response and tone are amazing. Sometimes I'll go, "what was that" as the guitar responds in some awesome way to something I'm doing. Willie Nelson, Niel Young and Eric Clapton have stories to tell too about their Martins.

  • @chuckandkonnie2415
    @chuckandkonnie2415 5 лет назад +22

    So much more character and depth to the older Martin.

    • @brycecourtneymusic
      @brycecourtneymusic 5 лет назад +1

      Agreed. The new guitar is so bright and snappy, to me the old one is so much smoother.

  • @nickcoulter973
    @nickcoulter973 4 года назад +12

    Whoa! Massive difference. The old one is definitely the guitar I prefer, but both are fantastic.

  • @randgloger296
    @randgloger296 5 лет назад +11

    Just like golf clubs, every guitar is better than the person playing it.

  • @thefisherman2837
    @thefisherman2837 5 лет назад +10

    Almost different guitar tho. The hd35 has scalloped forward shifted braces it's going to sound more bassy. A normal d35 would've been the test. I've had the new hd35 the new d35 and a vintage...and played the pre reimagined d35...the hd35 to my ears sounded vintage from the start and massive but built very different

  • @richardgredwulf-cronley3858
    @richardgredwulf-cronley3858 5 лет назад +10

    That 70's has a better sound, some kind of authority coming out of it. And I even didnt look at the video. Its got a hollow jangle that is only heard on older instruments

  • @larryrhindress2972
    @larryrhindress2972 5 лет назад +11

    Well done!!! The older Martin has my vote. My D28 has that similar warm sound.

  • @MikeAshba
    @MikeAshba 5 лет назад +11

    The older one has my vote but both sounded great

  • @jimgriggs2184
    @jimgriggs2184 4 года назад +6

    Ok. they're both nice. I enjoyed the playing, I enjoyed the stories behind them etc etc. But whats with the statue of the dude with his beans hanging out at 24:40?

  • @marc_leblanc
    @marc_leblanc 5 лет назад +13

    Love the warm full tone of a Martin guitar. I've owned a Shenandoah model (D-18-ish) and the D-45. Love them.

    • @jstar1000
      @jstar1000 4 месяца назад

      I had a Shenandoah HD-28 for many years, paid $500 for it back in the mid 80s sold it in the mid 2000s for around the same price but it had a lot of wear but was still a great guitar, I bought a new used D35 to replace it.

  • @apachehelicopter5001
    @apachehelicopter5001 5 лет назад +10

    70s guitars are inconsistent, but the good ones are fantastic. My 74 strat is awesome. A little heavy but it’s still a solid guitar

  • @zardonaz2963
    @zardonaz2963 5 лет назад +8

    I prefer the new one. Less bright but fuller sound and I like more bass in acoustic guitars. Both sound GREAT though.

  • @docbobster
    @docbobster 5 лет назад +11

    To my ears, the new model is very scooped sounding, with heavy bass and high end but less midrange. I prefer the older one's sound, but then I learned guitar in the 1970s!

    • @josephtravers777
      @josephtravers777 5 лет назад +1

      I'm with you here. I've been playing for almost 50 years as well :)

    • @johnathanutahzio8474
      @johnathanutahzio8474 5 лет назад

      Dude. One is a D35 and the other is a HD35. The bracing is totally different. This isn’t a fair comparison. They should’ve compared a D35 and a D35.

  • @BevisFriend2010
    @BevisFriend2010 5 лет назад +44

    To me...
    The new one sounds cleaner and more distinctive. The old one sounds warmer, more homely & rounded.

  • @MezzMcGillicuddy1
    @MezzMcGillicuddy1 4 года назад +6

    It's a fun video, but the problem with this comparison is that they're comparing two different models. The HD-35 has scalloped bracing, and the D-35 doesn't. It's impossible to tell how much age has affected the tone, since they never could have sounded alike to begin with. You'd need two guitars with the same specs.
    But, as I say, good fun.

    • @PANICBLADE
      @PANICBLADE 11 месяцев назад

      The bridge plates are also most likely different, as is the placement of the bracing, with the HD being forward shifted. Too much going on that could be contributing to the difference of sound aside from the age.

  • @thiilaak
    @thiilaak 5 лет назад +7

    To your ears, playing, the newer one might sound better. The microphone says the opposite. The older one sounds way better. Much more balanced and classy.

    • @panzerlieb
      @panzerlieb 5 лет назад +1

      Yep, that’s what happens. I’m not sure if they sound “better” because that’s really subjective to the individual. But most of them, no matter who made made them, do tend to balance out over time. I used to have this Kay acoustic made in the mid 60’s that sounded fantastic. Even though it was low end guitar at the time it was made. 30 years of aging did absolute wonders for it. The other thing to remember is a majority of the guitars made in the 60’s and prior, even the “cheap ones”, were made of solid wood. They hadn’t gotten into substituting plywood for the back and sides yet.

  • @andrewf5390
    @andrewf5390 5 лет назад +8

    The smile on Pete's face when he first starts playing Lee's guitar says it all.

  • @SimonBurley
    @SimonBurley 5 лет назад +29

    Amazingly I actually like the new one better. Sounds like Neil Young when he was young! Sounds fresh to me, and bright but not too bright. Usually I like cedar topped acoustics and a more mellow sound, but this new guitar sounds absolutely superb to me.

    • @mjt11860
      @mjt11860 5 лет назад +4

      i agree. i was also thinking of neil young

    • @ericmadeoftin8206
      @ericmadeoftin8206 2 года назад

      Doesn't Neil play an old one though?

    • @nilsen589
      @nilsen589 Год назад

      ​@@ericmadeoftin8206 when neil young was young, his guitar was young too.

  • @Gordonsmusic911
    @Gordonsmusic911 5 лет назад +6

    No doubt about it. The new one sounds better to my ear, but I'm not throwing rocks at the '72 model. It just has a different sound.

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart 5 лет назад +7

    The bracing is the difference with regard to the increased bass resonance. On this side of the video, the new guitar sounds actually sounds brighter, the '72 has a much more balanced projection of tones... to my ear anyway 😉

    • @955rocket
      @955rocket 5 лет назад

      Seems to me like the older has lost some it's high end, or ability to cut through the mix .

  • @woodyboyd
    @woodyboyd 5 лет назад +23

    the difference your hearing is the HD is scalloped the D is Not. apples & oranges boys.

    • @ole-ol1ok
      @ole-ol1ok 5 лет назад +1

      I think a new D35 instead of an HD would have been a better comparison

    • @Galahad-hk4bb
      @Galahad-hk4bb 5 лет назад +1

      You’re soooooo right!!!! It’s APPLES and ORANGES. Both are simply AWESOME!!!! Loved listening to the tonal characteristics of both. Very cool idea owning a birth year Martin model!!!

    • @michaelparks3106
      @michaelparks3106 4 года назад +2

      Yes, also the HD-35 has forward shifted bracing, so a better comparison would be a new standard D-35 to '70s model.

    • @robertnewell5057
      @robertnewell5057 4 года назад +1

      True , Woody. The question is does an old D35 which has had extensive repair work sound better than a brand new HD35. Kind of starts to lose meaning. As crops up throughout the conversation, they are really just asking: 'which do you prefer'. Tony Polecastro compares a modern D and HD35 somewhere on the web. The answer: They are different. I went for an HD35 having played a D and found the D had a tighter sound than I liked. But that's my taste. I could probably hear a different D and not think that. Both the modern ones were exceptional, and extraordinatry value for money.

  • @TheDuerden
    @TheDuerden 5 лет назад +5

    I am have drunk too much this morning, did Lee just have a better improvised solo than Pete there? No, I must have banged my head surely.

  • @dcallan1
    @dcallan1 5 лет назад +25

    The new guitar is strung with 13s from the factory not 12s. Also, the HD-35 bracing is forward shifted and scalloped, whereas the ‘72 D-35 would have been standard location and not scalloped. Besides age, I think the differences could be expected based on those specs alone.

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 5 лет назад +1

      Did he not say he changed the strings on the new one? I believe he did.

    • @dcallan1
      @dcallan1 5 лет назад

      @@Artcore103 My recollection was that he changed strings on the '72 to 12s. The new HD-35 was stock.

    • @Techco1
      @Techco1 5 лет назад +11

      I have no idea how they just glaze over the fact they're braced differently. Comparison should have ended the moment they said the new one is an HD. How they couldnt have managed to find a d35 or even a d28 would have been a better comparison. Blows mind

    • @johnathanutahzio8474
      @johnathanutahzio8474 5 лет назад

      Jeremy Hinds Because they’re morons who are barely above novices.

    • @tacratt6091
      @tacratt6091 5 лет назад +1

      Martin dreads need 13-56 to make them shine, the 12’s make them thin

  • @TheBigGuppy
    @TheBigGuppy 5 лет назад +3

    Acoustic guitars really vary from individual builds. I just bought a new all Mahogany Martin. I was prepared to buy a lot more expensive guitar. I hated the look but I ended up buying a DSS-15M Streetmaster. It was the best sounding guitar in the room. Better than guitars twice its price..... and way better than the other DSS-15Ms. Its a freak. I just wish it didn't look like distressed barn siding.

  • @guitarelaxed
    @guitarelaxed 5 лет назад +4

    The chord progression of the intro jam reminded me of the song "Follow me" from Pat Metheny´s "Imaginary day" record.

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith 5 лет назад +11

    Nothing like a Martin...beautiful sound.

    • @lorenjo
      @lorenjo 5 лет назад +1

      Try Larrivee mate.

    • @shawnsnow6413
      @shawnsnow6413 5 лет назад

      @@lorenjo +1 for Larrivee D03. Martins are good but nothing like a Larrivee either.

  • @CountJayeAndTheHardBeats
    @CountJayeAndTheHardBeats Год назад +1

    D-35 is not the same as a HD-35. The HD has forward shifted (this is also referred to as "high X bracing") and scalloped bracing.

  • @teamrockettes
    @teamrockettes 4 года назад +6

    Honestly, I really liked them both. Kind of an impressive feat of engineering that a modern Martin can sound so close to a decades-old guitar that has had the benefits of aging the wood.

    • @capohd28
      @capohd28 3 года назад +1

      Martin's standard series from 2018 on are as good as any they've produced. First newer Martin I have owned since 1988, and even ended selling that. I also have a 1944 D-18 and 1962 000-18. The 2018 D-41 is by far my favourite. I almost didn't buy it due to my aversion to bling, but the sound wowed me that I had to own it.

  • @thegee-tahguy4877
    @thegee-tahguy4877 5 лет назад +3

    A D-35 is definitely "blingier" than a D-28.... Back then, the D-35 was the only Martin dread with a bound neck. The D-28 does not have a bound neck. As far as the D-35 comparison goes, other than the forward-shifted X brace, the scalloped bracing and the low profile neck, the new 35 has an adjustable single action compression truss rod (since 1985) and a faux tortoise pickguard whereas the old 35 has a non-adjustable rod and a plain black pickguard.

  • @DBCisco
    @DBCisco 5 лет назад +5

    I have a dozen Martins and they all sound and feel different.

  • @tomjjordan91
    @tomjjordan91 5 лет назад +4

    I think the point for me is that I personally have enjoyed listening to my guitar age. An old one might sound beautiful, but it has been a pleasure being around for and experiencing first hand, the changes in sound in my guitar as the years go on.

  • @rp89d28
    @rp89d28 5 лет назад +13

    The '72 by a mile. Open and more articulate. New one sounds a bit congested. Which will improve over time

  • @sirhulk5325
    @sirhulk5325 5 лет назад +69

    I prefer the older one. It feels warmer to me

    • @Artcore103
      @Artcore103 5 лет назад +3

      I prefer it too but it's the opposite of warmer, it's brighter. The new one is warmer.

    • @lpjbird
      @lpjbird 5 лет назад +1

      I believe we have differing opinions as to the definition of brighter and warmer maybe. To me the older sounds bassier which I refer to warmer. Haha, make sense?

  • @seanhealey2007
    @seanhealey2007 5 лет назад +6

    I'm fascinated by how I seemed to change my preference depending on who was playing and the style. Takeaway: a D35 is tops no matter how you slice it. Gentleman in white shirt plays-old one sounds better ; gentleman in blue shirt plays - new one sounds better

  • @4vinylsound
    @4vinylsound 9 месяцев назад +1

    The new one has a midrange and low end the old doesn't have. New one sounds more harmonic. Basing on my phone speaker.

  • @Mr.56Goldtop
    @Mr.56Goldtop 5 лет назад +20

    They keep saying the 50 year old one has a brighter sound, but I think the new one is a lot brighter, and the old one has a warmer tone.

    • @kentriley1933
      @kentriley1933 5 лет назад

      I heard that right away

    • @Bossanovawitcha
      @Bossanovawitcha 5 лет назад

      neither a Taylor still

    • @kentriley1933
      @kentriley1933 5 лет назад +1

      @@Bossanovawitcha yes. I have a Baby Taylor it can be played loud if you like. great tone and play ability and very bright has gotten better with age. But with tempture have to adjust neck a few times a year .I am sure higher end Taylors you probably dont have to Adjust neck too much.

    • @Bossanovawitcha
      @Bossanovawitcha 5 лет назад

      Kent Riley true.. save up for that GS Mini Koa, its wild wild wild haha

    • @brianpizzuti8826
      @brianpizzuti8826 4 года назад

      I think they said that about the new one, not the old one.

  • @erichharvey10
    @erichharvey10 5 лет назад +1

    old one sounds less harsh and better overall - at least on youtube. But with that said, I picked my Taylor over a Martin because of the brightness. ...but even it's mellowed out since 95.

    • @wheezyjefferson9136
      @wheezyjefferson9136 5 лет назад

      I picked a Taylor, as well. I love the sound of Martin and Gibson acoustics, but in my hands, they don't sound as good. Since I mostly play at home, it had to sound right in my hands. No regrets, love my Taylor.

  • @paulrenevos
    @paulrenevos 4 года назад +4

    The old one sounds more ‘even’ by lack of a better word, I prefer it

  • @pappyodanial
    @pappyodanial 3 года назад +1

    I have a 1964 D-21 with Brazilian back and sides. The sound of Brazilian is unparalleled.

  • @casterman2
    @casterman2 5 лет назад +3

    Cheers from the US! Great vid guys.! I bought an HD28 new in 2006. It gets warmer every year. Never leaves the case unless I’m playing it. Still has the smell. That smell is the best! I think at the end when the new one was playing rhythm and the old one was playing lead was just right. The older one has such flavor. The new one is super full and chunky. They sound amazing together. Cheers to the audio guys for getting it to translate tonally, on my crappy apple ear buds👍🏻

  • @zerosoma33
    @zerosoma33 3 года назад +1

    How can you say this is a comparison when it's not even the same guitar model? DISLIKE.

  • @Randorita
    @Randorita 5 лет назад +6

    Pete, I smell my guitars, too! I can't decide if I prefer the smell of rosewood or mahogany. Both are great!

    • @TheBigGuppy
      @TheBigGuppy 5 лет назад +1

      Thats weird that you post that. I just bought a sloped shoulder all mahogany Martin dreadnaught and I love the smell of that thing.

    • @rosslynemrys5829
      @rosslynemrys5829 3 года назад

      There are mugs now for Martin fans, Sound hole sniffers!!

  • @thorelundin3245
    @thorelundin3245 5 лет назад +9

    Peter, lær mig at spille som dig, du er sårn rimeligt god❤️🦆

    • @tomasfjeld99
      @tomasfjeld99 5 лет назад +1

      Lord 'N' Savior ja jævlig flink

  • @gfurstnsu
    @gfurstnsu 3 года назад +5

    For me the older guitar had a mellower sound and the new one was sassy and brash. I think the younger generation (excuse my over generalizations) would like the brassy sound, but as I approach 80, I prefer the mellower sound. Thanks for doing this comparison. Both have that deep rich sound that is characteristic of a Martin Dreadnaught! Greeting from Daejeon, South Korea.

    • @christopherwatkins9729
      @christopherwatkins9729 2 года назад

      G'Day George... Hope my great grandchildren enjoy my CRAFTER Auditorium in 50 years !!!!! and Greetings from New Zealand... Yes, am happy to say I do have an Italian, (ESTON) Vintage, Jumbo/Dreadnought, Acoustic/Electric, Cedar Top, over 50 years age... and Yes... it has an appealing improved tone and is staying "In the family"... also with it's accompanying 1984 VOX AMP ... (But I play it mostly as an Acoustic guitar)... Warm Regards... Chris... ☘

    • @backroadboys5681
      @backroadboys5681 Год назад

      As a 23 year old I can contest I preferred the older d35 but I may be a little biased because my guitar teacher played a 1975 Martin d35 and it put everything I’ve ever compared it to to shame

    • @MrRbillharz
      @MrRbillharz Год назад

      Good ear! The original D-35s had a rosewood bridge plate and lighter bracing than the D-28. The were designed for the singer song writer. The newer D-35s have a maple bridge plate and have a brighter more modern sound.

  • @jimmythefish
    @jimmythefish 5 лет назад +3

    The only other structural difference is that the 70s ones had a large, clunky bridge plate made of rosewood, whereas the new ones have a small maple bridge plate. I'm torn on this aging guitar - if you find a really old, great-sounding guitar it's probably the reason it's still around. It sounds great! I've played 60s Martins that I wouldn't trade my 2008 D-28 for. Mine changed after it was new, to my ears, but I think aging of a guitar won't turn a bad guitar into a good one. A really great-sounding guitar started out that way. See any Santa Cruz or Collings or Martin Authentic for evidence of that. They sound fantastic right out of the box.

  • @shanethomas6208
    @shanethomas6208 2 месяца назад +1

    Just two guys just interrupting each other

  • @alxra
    @alxra 5 лет назад +15

    I know the musicianship is top notch, but It's hard to watch when these two constantly talk over each other.

  • @bluesysamurainao4557
    @bluesysamurainao4557 4 года назад +3

    Nice review and performance!! New one is tight and stiff. Vintage one is mild ,dry and well balanced. I love Martin tone the best so both are awesome!!

  • @sparkijones
    @sparkijones 5 лет назад +4

    The older one sounds more open, more scooped in the mids whereas the new one sounds more pushed in the mids.

  • @Holtenstein
    @Holtenstein 5 лет назад +5

    I've gotten the chance to play many Martin guitars, authentic, Golden eras, D45,D50 and even the D100. The best sounding Martin I've ever played was a 1963 D28!! Age, when kept correctly, improves the sound.

    • @dezionlion
      @dezionlion 5 лет назад

      Maybe they had better wood or luthiers?

    • @Holtenstein
      @Holtenstein 5 лет назад +1

      @@dezionlion No. Other than the addition of a truss rod in 1985 they're the same guitars. It's the age. Rosewood opens up over time. One of my favorites was the D18 Golden Era. It's mahogany and it has more bass immediately. Whereas the Rosewood will become better and better sounding. But once you get to a certain level of Martins the will give you a chill on the first strum. As long as they have fresh strings that is.

    • @Holtenstein
      @Holtenstein 5 лет назад

      @ROCCO SMURF Yes, the D28 GE and authentic are extremely good. Just much more expensive.

  • @ryanbloom1738
    @ryanbloom1738 5 лет назад +4

    The vintage d35 is a non scalloped guitar.

  • @gmoore6166
    @gmoore6166 5 лет назад +4

    Love my Martins! The new HD sounds good but is too bright now compared to the older more mellow. The good news is when the new HD ages it will mellow too:) Both are great guitars!

    • @garcdonald
      @garcdonald Год назад

      Xactly! My 72 D-35: full, deep, massive base response and resonance. My 2019 HD-35, extremely bright mids and highs. Almost half the base response. Beautiful, incredible brightness but personally, I do hope it mellows and deepens.

  • @thalstantrailwalker2393
    @thalstantrailwalker2393 5 лет назад +3

    I loved both guitars, but I think I prefer the newer one in terms of sound. That said, the sound of the older one is phenomenal. Both are great, and I would be extremely happy with either. Captain, you are a lucky guy to have found that wonderful guitar. Martin did a fantastic job in restoring that for you. What would really sell me though is how it plays.

  • @TheSchmittable
    @TheSchmittable 5 лет назад +37

    Is it just me cause I'm stoned af or is the horse's head in the background shaped like a Fender headstock?

    • @LeviCoultify
      @LeviCoultify 5 лет назад +1

      Dude...

    • @jayadams681
      @jayadams681 5 лет назад +2

      Dunno but look at the size of the bollocks on that statue!!

    • @miguelmontoya1320
      @miguelmontoya1320 5 лет назад +4

      Wait a minute! Are Fender headstocks really just horse heads???

    • @39MercFlathead
      @39MercFlathead 5 лет назад +2

      @@miguelmontoya1320 No, actually, they are a copy of a headstock that Paul Bigsby designed with Merle Travis so that Travis could have all the tuning machines on the same side of the headstock facing him to make changing strings easier. The original sketch that Travis took to Bigsby was based on the treble clef symbol. If you find a picture of the Merle Travis edition of the Martin D-28 you can see the resemblance to the treble clef even more clearly.

    • @39MercFlathead
      @39MercFlathead 5 лет назад

      That horse's head is a trophy awarded to the Captain by Prince Harry for his marvelous play in a polo tournament;-)

  • @year20xxgamer
    @year20xxgamer 5 лет назад +4

    The opening song sounded like I Wont Back Down

    • @mouloudo
      @mouloudo 3 года назад +2

      Every good pop song has a little Tom Petty in it

  • @davidmcleandamrecordings3673
    @davidmcleandamrecordings3673 Год назад +1

    There is a huge adjustment that the wood goes through. As years go by the wood patenas and balances ..

  • @dylanbrown4683
    @dylanbrown4683 3 года назад +12

    Can’t beat the Martin sound, they sound so big and full. The best quote I heard about a Martin was 10 years ago, I was at my sisters house I had a cheap old guitar left there and I went there to show her my new Martin. She is a music lover but by far not a musician, she was blown away by the sound of the Martin but she then got the old guitar I left there and said remember this one?! And I played that one and to her untrained ears she said “the old one sounds like a cheap guitar but the Martin sounds like the full band is playing with it”

  • @AlexanderTerczka
    @AlexanderTerczka 5 лет назад +17

    There might by a simple reason for the myth that old guitars sound better.
    Every year and brand has good and bad guitars. Over the years the bad ones got binned/smashed and good ones were taken care off.
    So only the good guitars survive.

    • @zeroceiling
      @zeroceiling 5 лет назад +1

      No...there are very few people smashing Martins or Gibsons of any kind...great...good or just average....

    • @thomasp961
      @thomasp961 4 года назад

      Interesting theory. Also wonder about old growth vs. new growth wood.

    • @yourrnamee1280
      @yourrnamee1280 4 года назад

      Hmm, I had an old broken Maton, sang like it had been on this earth for a lonnng time, it could play itself . Bought a Martin, expensive, apparently on par with the Maton. it was NOTHING compared to the Maton.

  • @ragingchimera8021
    @ragingchimera8021 5 лет назад +14

    If I was recording in a band mix I might go with the newer one, more dynamics and sonic range. If I was sitting around strumming I'd go with the older one, such a warm pleasant sound.

  • @ResoBridge
    @ResoBridge 5 лет назад +2

    "The neck needed a reset and the bracing was loose..." I'd say that answers the question right there. That's my issue with old guitars in general - if they have been played most of them are well worn and a a bit knackered. In the 'classical' guitar world there is the idea that after a few decades the tops wear out and the guitar is done.

  • @calebbhawkins
    @calebbhawkins 5 лет назад +32

    One thing really shows is that the captain mostly plays electric guitar. Acoustic musicians just play differently.

    • @andrewcrawley285
      @andrewcrawley285 5 лет назад

      yeah, true. I'm the same

    • @zachjollimore4339
      @zachjollimore4339 5 лет назад +2

      I started on acoustic and yea, it's a thing, switching to electric was a whole new game.

    • @shmooless3699
      @shmooless3699 5 лет назад +4

      Differently ? Huh, never heard anyone spell ‘better’ that way

    • @mouloudo
      @mouloudo 5 лет назад

      He has the touch though, can't teach that

    • @joshiuahallenbeck531
      @joshiuahallenbeck531 5 лет назад

      @@zachjollimore4339 heck yeah it is!

  • @jkinnama
    @jkinnama Год назад +1

    The newbie is more balanced. For me the old 'un is way to bassy. Depends on what you play

  • @adrienminette
    @adrienminette 5 лет назад +3

    What’s the song at the beginning?

    • @rosslynemrys5829
      @rosslynemrys5829 3 года назад

      It sounded a bit like a Tom Petty conglomeration

  • @chrisdcates
    @chrisdcates 5 лет назад +1

    The vintage martin sounds best if it did not rattle on every string. So with that said the newer one sounds better to me. But that's just because the vintage model is buzzing and rattling like train.

    • @eduardwalhout1740
      @eduardwalhout1740 5 лет назад

      It could do with a little Singapore-South Africa treatment. Just a day or so to get it just right.

  • @jimmypilgrim
    @jimmypilgrim 5 лет назад +5

    A few notes on what makes a D35 different than a D28: Martin starting building the D35 in 1965, not the 1970’s. The D35 has a bound neck and herringbone trim. The D28 could have herringbone but it was an option. The quality of the wood, particularly the top was supposed to be superior for each Martin guitar as you go from the D35 to D41 to D45. Another difference is scalloped bracing, which could make a big difference in the sound.
    Opinion: I lam the original owner of a 1975 D28 and it has aged nicely but the 70’s Martins were weak compared to earlier generations, even without the Brazilian rosewood. Martin was going through some labor issues in the 70’s including a strike in 1979, which could have caused quality issues.

    • @markntexas8265
      @markntexas8265 2 года назад

      I am 54 all American just like a bunch of British companies went through labor and supply chain issues in the ‘70’s. So I completely trust your account of Martins issues.

    • @EveningCrow
      @EveningCrow 8 месяцев назад

      Some slight corrections: the D-35 does not come with herringbone. The D-28 originally did, but was removed. Herringbone is now present on all the HD series, which also has scalloped bracing.
      There are other custom, non production runs that have had it though.

  • @papajay111
    @papajay111 5 лет назад +2

    NO,,,,, the NEW one sounds way better!! AND will soon SURPASS the 70s one as it ages!!

  • @marktaylor7997
    @marktaylor7997 5 лет назад +3

    Great vid but as a Chelsea fan I’m struggling with the captains shirt 🤣🤣😅

    • @bobbillnolan7644
      @bobbillnolan7644 5 лет назад

      But you’re not struggling with the fact that Chelsea are shit ?? 😂

  • @acousticguitar4557
    @acousticguitar4557 5 лет назад +2

    The new HD-35 sounds boxy in comparison to the 1972 D-35.
    Would rather perform with the 1972 : )

  • @Brmmsilva
    @Brmmsilva 5 лет назад +14

    I much prefer the older one. What a beautiful sound!

  • @rockers-22
    @rockers-22 10 месяцев назад +1

    Old one is very smooth and clear and tight, can listen every single notes❤

  • @kevinmorris7722
    @kevinmorris7722 3 года назад +3

    Lee's sounds much more balanced. The bodies go through some deformation. The neck angle must be fixed on most older accustics not just the truss rod. the other thing is a Martin expert fixed Lee's guitar. Also Lee's has Brazilian rosewood and the new has Indian rosewood. But the test will come 40yrs on the new one.

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 2 года назад +1

      And the two guitars are braced in different places, so it will be interesting to hear how the new one changes with age, for that reason alone. They'll never sound exactly the same.
      That said, two 'identical' acoustic guitars are not guaranteed to sound exactly the same anyway, because the wood is from different trees, or different parts of the same trees, and the grain is different. Furthermore, the craftspeople who made the two might be different, and working at different times of year.... the list of variables can go on.

    • @adamscottv
      @adamscottv 2 года назад

      Lee's is also Indian. He says that. He could not have brought a Brazilian guitar to the UK from the US.

  • @melvynobrien6193
    @melvynobrien6193 5 лет назад +1

    Early on, didn't count the bars, about seven or eight, Pete played a minor chord over the boss's major chord. There's so little to criticize I had to point it out; anyone else notice? Please don't call me an a####le. Thanks. Good playing as usual. My logo is from the headstock of my 1987 Franklin Brazilian rosewood Jumbo. Paid $2000 at the time; a lot of money then.

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 5 лет назад +1

      I prefer the wider-range sound of the older guitar.

  • @GageTheCannon
    @GageTheCannon 5 лет назад +4

    Pete really is an amazing guitarist.

  • @zykify
    @zykify 5 лет назад +3

    Too me, the old one sound more harmonic, as in harmony. More even. Less hard. Better.

  • @rushrulz65
    @rushrulz65 Год назад +1

    The reimagined Martin's (2018 and on standards) are amazing.

  • @ahiwalter9153
    @ahiwalter9153 5 лет назад +14

    i don’t even play acoustic but I still wanted to watch these two jam out.

  • @simonbarton9677
    @simonbarton9677 3 года назад +1

    The Hawaiian West Ham top definitely doesn’t help the sound 😢. Good video. Love my 2016 D35.

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling 5 лет назад +11

    Not with age, with playing.... the more hours it is played the better the sound...

    • @Supperconductor
      @Supperconductor 5 лет назад

      Ted Schoenling Especially noticeable on my Classical guitars. They sound closed in if left in the case for a few weeks.

    • @LSPD1909
      @LSPD1909 5 лет назад

      Never heard anyone say this but looking back you’re right

  • @stateofblitz
    @stateofblitz 3 года назад +2

    The original definitely sounds more settled in and warmer. Beautiful.
    I have a Yamaha with the age treated top and the sound difference from one that's not is quite substantial.

  • @UpsideDownCanoe
    @UpsideDownCanoe 5 лет назад +14

    The older guitar has more clarity to it.

  • @fdelathouder
    @fdelathouder 5 лет назад +1

    The scalloped braces on the new HD-35 make it a lot different from a new D-35. The HD-35 has almost overpowering bass and nice harmonics and sustain. The old D-35 has incredibly balanced overall sound and the different string sounds are extremely well integrated. Compare the old D-35 to a new D-35 and then you can hear exactly why older is better. Indeed, the HD-35 is almost designed to sound older when brand new. Bottom line, you accidentally compared an apple to an apple-flavored orange.

  • @joumannoe
    @joumannoe 5 лет назад +3

    Videos with Pete are definitely the best! Spot on!!!

  • @Godskingdomwithin
    @Godskingdomwithin 5 лет назад +1

    The HD you are playing has a brighter sound, but the older Martin has a richer sound and the bass makes it sound fuller, but in the way Martin’s are known for.

  • @JordansTake35
    @JordansTake35 5 лет назад +7

    The old D35 sounds brighter because Martin's built in the 1970's are straight braced. It dampens low frequencies and gives the guitar a punchier sound. The new d35 is scallop braced. It allows the top to vibrate more freely giving it more lower frequencies and less punchiness. It has nothing to do with how the guitar has aged.

    • @johnathanutahzio8474
      @johnathanutahzio8474 5 лет назад +2

      More than that, the new one was an HD35.

    • @JordansTake35
      @JordansTake35 5 лет назад +1

      @@johnathanutahzio8474 Ahh so it was also forward shifted and scalloped. Good catch

  • @thomask1uk
    @thomask1uk 5 лет назад +2

    I think the new one sounds 'stringy' and the old one sounds 'woody'. I prefer woody...

  • @sahiljagtiani
    @sahiljagtiani 5 лет назад +8

    Holy shit did Lee just play outplay Pete in the begining?

    • @NowakP
      @NowakP 5 лет назад +3

      Sir, you need to calm down

    • @russhicksart
      @russhicksart 5 лет назад +1

      I certainly think he did...the Captain has been consistently improving.

    • @BillPasdeaux
      @BillPasdeaux 5 лет назад

      @@russhicksart yeah, after 7 years he's almost an intermediate

    • @adamhoughton7720
      @adamhoughton7720 5 лет назад +1

      Pete hit a clam in the opening for sure. Surprised the hell outta me.

  • @SuperMelodic
    @SuperMelodic 4 года назад +2

    Awsome playing guys love it I’m buying this guitar new!