What If the Jedi JOINED the CIS During the Clone Wars
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- The Jedi Order served with clone troopers on behalf of the Republic during the war. What If the Jedi Joined the CIS? How would the Jedi handle the war itself? What would be the breaking point for them to leave the republic? How would Sidious restructure his plan to wipe out the Jedi? Would the Jedi be able to ethically win the Clone Wars or would they become villains?
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Did you see these ai star wars what if channels pop up? I watched a few videos and a channel called "Darth Theorist" feels like they just rewrote some of your video scripts
This whole "what if" episode is what would happen if a time traveler stepped on a twig
Well My favorite star wars faction is the Separatist Alliance or the Confederacy of Independent Systems! There army, though not the best ,is the most versatile and flexible, playing the numbers game that beats even the empire.
Fun fact: they actually have the Best Space Navy out of all the other factions thanks to that versatility And diverse specialization that's more spread out and when used by good strategists, It's nearly unstoppable, which again can also beat the Empire.
And the final nail in the coffin that truly tipped the balance in their favor is having the jedi on their side this time , which if they went up against a galactic empire , Jedi CIS would win no questions asked, even against the Eternal Empire!
How The Galactic Republic Would Survived Without The Traitor Jedi's? Patrol Can You Please 🙏 Do What If… “Erza Infect The New Republic Into Zombie 🧟♂️?”
@@air_owl-warlock7812 : YEAH ,like the Blacklight Virus!
Anakin and Grievous being bros and becoming legendary warriors was my favorite part of this story.
I would love some little shorts showing their dynamic
Anakin, Grievous, C-3PO and R2D2 as the Four Musketeers?
clanka crew (some more than others)
@@WVRSpenceWestVirginiaRebel1 amputee with a robot arm, 1 cyborg, and 2 droids beings the Robros
Anakin going Sigma route, rejecting simping for Padme and beginning a legendary warrior bromance with Grievous.
“Sir, you’re shorter than I expected.”
“Commander Skywalker. How good of you to join us!”
In this AU
"your lightsaber will make a fine addition to my collection, you will be missed old friend."
-Grievous every single time he attend a jedi funeral.
also in this AU
"I’ve been Trained in jedi arts by Count Dooku... Master Windu, Kenobi and Bulq"
I just imagined Grievous using Yoda’s combat style, that’s horrifying. It’s even more horrifying that Grievous’ cybernetics might actually let him perform it.
I like to imagine that Grievous, no matter the timeline he is in, will always make a collection of lightsabers from fallen Jedis, even if they're allies. It's inevitable!
@@homoinsanus4674 grievous could become the guy who sold hotdogs outside the Jedi temple and he’d still find a way
@@austinestep8461some Jedi pays with his lightsaber because they forget their wallet
@@austinestep8461During order 66 he went in and snatched Lightsabers.
This is such hilarious thought, like instead of becoming the great puppet master of the universe palpatine accidentally ends up uniting every one he plans to betray against himself.
"Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth sidius the unwise?"
"No."
"I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend." Count dooku or something
"Your firendship will make a fine addition to my collection" - General Grievous
"What?" -Anikin
"Anikin just roll with it" -Obi wan
*Anakin
Beat me to it. @@DinoLoverGaming
This surprisingly makes more sense so far than the actual canon story...
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It's funny how it does
Now I HAVE TO SEE THIS!
Also when things don't make sense blame the sequels
I feel that with Anakin's affinity for machines and droids, he'd make friends with the latter.
Imagine they arrive to a level of trust where Grevious can ask Anakin to upgrade his cybernetics.
@@TRAILLERI just imagine Anakin giving Grievous a gift and he opens it and it’s 4 shiny new beskar arms.
For the record: the CIS was intended to be the good guys, but because of the manipulation of the Sith the CIS eventually became the bad guys
Pente: "One of the Jedi was killed in the blast."
Me: 😁
Pente: "Plo Koon was the one killed in the blast."
Me: 😭
You thought that it was Mundi at first, didn't you?
my reaction fr, Rip Plo bro
To be fair Mundi almost never survives altought it was sad to see plo gone but i wss happy mundi survived for once
I just realized, but the joke in this timeline would be "What about the clone attack on the wookies." Which also ties nicely with Episode's II tittle.
Having Dooku and the jedi on the same side almost always makes the whole thing fell a little unfair to poor Palpatine...
True, though in those situation they could always keep Darth Plagueis around to help even the playing field.
@@dreadrathplagueis was killed in the phantom menace
Eh I don’t, Palps murders temple fulls of monks too often.
@@austinestep8461 Hey, I like to see Palps getting owned too (the ones Dooku just stays on/returns to the light side and owns everyone are my favorites), but fairness is fairness, you know?
@@NewDracors fair point. Palpatine is just easy to root against
I really liked this story of the Jedi teaming up with the CIS that was great. Especially working with Dooku coming around the light again
@dianesinger9729 True. Dooku Appears. And his participation in the story is always great. However, Would like to see him more often in positive roles because, his loss for The Old Jedi Order is as significant as the Mace's Death.
Welp, Dooku's turning on Palpatine. And the Republic is FUCKED. XD
A full Jedi Order leading a near limitless droid army could even defeat the Eternal Empire at its prime!
@@tianoc-g4811 indeed. XD the Republic's success in the clone wars relied so heavily on the Jedi, it's not even funny. Them being with the CIS? The Republic's done. XD in this timeline, even were Palpatine to successfully execute an Order 66 style execution of the Jedi, there'd be so much collateral damage by the time he executed it his Empire would be on stilts over a lava river. XD The Jedi are just too effective. So much of the stuff he laid down as preparation would be ruined completely.
Anakin: I have brought peace, freedom, and security to my new Republic!
For Real This time
Padme: OH YEAH TELL ME MORE!
YOUR new Republic?
Anakin my allegiance is to the confederacy, to socialism (. I really don’t know what CIS government is)
@@Helldiver_M1its just a bunch of planets that felt unfair because of their statuses to the core since they are mostly mid and outer rim
The big difference is that canon Dooku realised he had been played by Palpatine but by that time there was no way back anymore, so he doubled down
We can clearly see how doubtful he was in Tales of the Jedi
When you grow up you start to realize that the CIS weren’t bad they were manipulated to fight a battle they really needed. Like all of the outer rim and a good chunk of the mid rim were crime filled, slave driven, and poor worlds that needed help and they weren’t getting it so they fought for it
The CIS was bad tho lol
@@ThatDragonGuy no u
@@ThatDragonGuymaybe the generals, but the people and reason they wanted to rebel? Naw. Republic was corrupt.
The ideals initially founding the separatists were not bad. It became a monster over time, though.
The initial CIS wasn't bad, what it turned into was. Which is George Lucas entire point
When I first watched “New Hope” and obi-wan mentioned the clone wars, this is what I imagined it was like
It wasn't just you. Before the prequels were made in the books they were allowed to mention the clone wars but not explore that time period and these mentions always suggested that the republic and the jedi fought against clones and the cloners. Going as far making clones of jedi.
General Grevious is going to be in a very awkward spot
He either A. Is forced to work alongside the Jedi or B. Is forced to work alongside the Republic, both of which he hates!
And instead he becomes best pals with anakin
@@maxwhite8616Grievous and Anakin is a terrifying duo. Both are unstoppable forces of offense, both equally as terrifying.
Mace:
,,Yooo Wassup mah Clankers!"
B1: "Uuuuuh do we shoot him or something?"
Other B1: "He's black, He can say it."
“Clanker is our word, you can use clanka”
@Yeet_VGbOyNJ great now I can't get that image out of my head
@Yeet_VGbOyNJ I just got a notification from here but does this mean Commando Droids can say BOTH magic words?
If so, that's a brotherhood I want to see
Edit: sorry for bad grammar. English friend told me to fix it
RIP Palpatine, lol
Anakin and Grievous becoming besties and Obi-Wan and Ventress an item seems so wholesome. Kinda like it 😆
Didn’t ventress and obi-wan flirt in TCW a lot
@@serventium4049 they did do a fair bit of flirting, yah
What if the rescue party sent to the separatist Jedi prison ended up crashing and found during the Imperial times about 20 years later? Specifically, imagine if during the mission to rescue a Jedi holding vital hyperspace lane codes, the shuttle transporting Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka, and the 501st troopers who are in carbonite crashed , resulting in R2-D2 being destroyed. Later they were unexpectedly discovered and saved by rebels.
The chips in rex, Fives, echo, cody and the other troopers poses a threat
This needs to be a video
This is an excellent what if! Well done, sir.
@@Happysecret180They wont have contact with the Chancellor which means they wont get order 66
That would also be a big hit to Palpatine's plans since one of the reasons behind the Clone Wars was to bring Anakin closer to Palpatine and the Dark side
Without Anakin there, Palpatine would likely try to find a new apprentice or become Emperor alone with some Sith Assassins
What if Dooku never joined the Sith but Created his Counter Government to the Republic?
George Dookuington.
Palpatine: *Peace was never an Option*
Would love to see this. Maybe Dooku would use Sifo Dyas' plan for the Clone Army for his own uprising. This force Sidious to strongarm the soon-to-be CIS council to remain in the Republic and supply Battle Droids to supplement its human forces (possibly TK Troopers)
Isn't that what he wanted to do with the CIS originally?
@@wargamesmaster Well Yes but actually Yes
What if count dooku was a spy trying to figure out who Palpatine's Master is?
“Commander Skywalker, I expected someone of your reputation to be a little… older.”
“General Grievous, you’re shorter than I expected.”
Man, I’m a little pissed that it was Plow Kun that died and was hoping for Kiadi Mundi to get shot
What if Palpatine sued the Jedi for religious persecution, the Jedi find out Palpatine is a sith but have no evidence that he’s behind the war.
In the Republic's older laws being a Sith in office is outlawed. Though it's so old and Palpatine so well liked, it probably wouldn't hold up.
@dannylopez5976 Plus odds are those laws would have been silently repealed by the sith over the generations.
I don’t know. I just thought it’d be a funny idea.
Being a Sith in the republic is illegal.
Anakin, grievous, & R3-S6 would be a very interesting team.
And the last one is... The... Droid that was fixing Grevious? Or who?
@@polishscribe674the golden astromech who replaced r2 that one time
What if after the Phantom Menace, Jango Fett freed Shmi Skywalker instead of Cliegg Lars?
That would be very interesting. Especially when Anakin and Obiwan eventually catch up to the Fett Man.
Meanwhile on Lotho Minor
Spider Maul slowly crawling back to sanity: KenobiiiieeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEH!!!!!!!!
We could've have an epic battle between Maul with a double lightsaber and Grevious with 4 normal ones
@@polishscribe674 Without Doku ordering the night sisters to create Savage Opres for him, There would be no one to go retrieve insane Maul from the hole he was hidding in. He would have died insane, crippled and alone
What if Galen Marek became Dooku's secret apprentice? Whether it's him being born far enough in the past or him somehow entering the "World between worlds" and ending up on Serenno with Amnesia.
Oh god the clone wars will be a blood bath
Well he wouldn't be as strong due to not being Darth Vader
@@DarknessSlayerXX he pulled an ISD to the ground
@@CT-Kix Yeah but the difference between Dooku & Vader is that Dooku would keep him on a leash for Darth Sidious while Darth Vader taught Starkiller to show no restraint and as such "The Potential Of Dark Side" was literally on the tips of his fingers . . . . . I mean "Force Unleashed" is right there in the name.
@@DarknessSlayerXX true
Anakin: Raise a glass to freedom, something the republic can never take away. No matter what they tell you!!
Grivious: Raise a glass to the four of us. Tommorow there’ll be more of us.
Dooku: They’ll tell the story of tonight.
Obi Wan: Let’s have another round.
Unexpected Hamilton is always is the best
@noeyesmcgee810
a suprise to be certain but a welcomed one
This reminds me that Grievous was almost as good as two players in a volleyball match, probably because of that one Sith Beach Vacation video someone made.
What if Anakin meets Asoka early? ( During Phantom menace, childhood)
She woulda been a baby
Anakin, Ventress, Grievous AND Obi-Wan. Against who? Poor Yularen.
I really enjoy the possible character interactions and alternative relationships formed in this story. I can definitly see the ones between Ventress and Obi-wan. And Anakin and Grevious being quite meaningful between them. Like Anakin and Grevious being legendary warriors. A very nice Dooku W.
As we know darth vader was a natural engineer and could use technoguru or whatever so what if he used skill to create nanobots to repair his lungs and burns while also making limbs that could conduct the force to make lightning. This could relate to inquisitor baris as she used nanobots in the bomb and he may remember nanobots and their uses. He could could also conduct experiments diguised as torture to fool sidious, learning to heal wounds, make force sensitive droids/limbs and using nano bots to manipulate mididclorians to strip or enhance the force in individuals.
Too OP
The jedi if they were based
Mace: I dunno… something about being a ‘Knight of the Confederacy’ seems off to me…
Day fifteenteen
1) what if Luke and Mara, post union comics, traved back to the clone wars.
2) what if The Pius Dea returned
3) what if ahsoka raised mara
4) what if the Republic Outland Regions Security Force formed the base of the republic army
5) what if Etain Tur-Mukan survived
6) what if Siri Tachi survived and her and Obi-Wan Kenobi fell in love
7) what if the yousong vong attacked during the clone wars
8) whist if Meetra Surik, Jedi Exile, trained anakian.
9) what if the Eternal Alliance reterned
10) what if the Je'daii Order returned
What if Anakin Skywalker was born a girl and Padme Amidala a boy?
How would *Revenge Of The Sith* change in this scenario?
How would Anakin hide her child if she had one?
@@DarknessSlayerXX "she" eats thrash food non stop till the point no one can say if its fat or pregnancy.
@@DarknessSlayerXXI guess bros gotta go camping 😂
Tbh i crack myself up every time
So basically everyone is gender swapped? Female Darth maul and palpatine would be.. interesting.
@@serventium4049
No, just Anakin and Padme, didn’t you read?
Great job with this one, glad to finally see mu request done!😊 And yeah like you said trying to reason out why or when the Jedi would choose to side with Sepratists was the hardest part of story but you did a great job.
What if Coleman Trebor killed Dooku on Geonosis?
What if the Rakata returned (cured of their force insensitivity) during the Clone Wars?
Actually better than i thought it would be be.
Chad dooku being a anti hero chad never gets old.
This would be fun battlefront mod.
But how would you balance a jedi less republic for special units?
More of the specialists clones?
A fun badass clone commandos that are fast moving spartans from halo and loads of gear?
Here are my beg posts:
Uncle iroh what if if you ever get the creativity for it would blow up.
Atla had him, zuko, azula, luten ect
Also the frozen carbonite mission from clone wars going wrong n anakin being in empire era would be cool.
Tons of way to write it and who know who would surive o66 or empire era or what kind of empire era?
16:30 boston masacure
Wot da fuk
With next week being the end of the Bad Batch series, let's do this. What if Caleb Dume joined the Bad Batch?
Feels bad for the clones and Plo
I'm surprised Anakin didn't offer to upgrade Grievous.
Harder and more harmful to do that to a cyborg
Grievous actually had state of the art cybernetics. At least they were state of the art during the time period he lived in. If he lived 20 years later into what would’ve been the end of the Imperial Era in canon then Greivous might’ve been upgraded
@@TheUncivilizedNation Yeah but Anakin is a bit of a genius in terms of mechanics. He’s one of the few people who would actually be able to upgrade “state of the art” cybernetics.
What if the clones joined the CIS
Yesss
Don't know if you covered this idea already but what if the jedi had a schism and half of the order fought for the cis and the other side fought for the republic....
l would like you to get these video ideas please:
1. What if Padme saved Anakin from Count Dooku?(I mean when he was traded for General Grievous.)
2. What if Palpatine received the list of force-sensitive children?
3. What if Padme won the vote against Palpatine and became chancellor?
4. What if Padme Amidala was a Sith Descendant? (However, she will not defend Sith and will be force sensitive.)
5. What if Padme Amidala had been discovered and trained by Anakin to be force sensitive during the Clone Wars?
6.What if Darth Momin killed Darth Vader?
7. What if Anakin had not gone to save Palpatine but Palpatine had killed Mace Windu?
8.What if there was Tom and Jerry(Cartoon Characters) in the Star Wars universe?
9.What if Padme Amidala started thinking just like Anakin as a result of the clone wars (good things about the Empire).
10.What if Bugs Bunny and other cute heroes were in the Star Wars universe?
Two ideas
1) What if Tarkin overthrew Palpatine and became a military dictator.
2) What if Doku left and formed his own jedi order in the outer rim.
1) would probably end in the empires falling apart at a rapit place, the empire was practically built around palpatine, so his loss would cause the empire to fall apart especially if this is post death star , essentially the fained stability palpatine provided would be gone and sidius loyalists would start considering tarken a traitor and now hes has rebels and a mutiny to deal with
@maverickdarkrath4780 maybe. In my head, I thought tarken my just double down on the imperial navy and follow the tarken doctoren, except he would probably be even tougher on the rebels.
- What if The Jedi Order allowed attachments
- What if Galen Marek/Starkiller Survive "The Force Unleashed 1"
- What If Darth Vader Never Found Out About Luke & Leia Being His Kids
- What If Anakin Trained Grogu/Baby Yoda
- What If Anakin Was Trained By "Meetra Surik"
- What If Anakin Was Trained By "Darth Bane"
- - What If Anakin Was Trained By "Darth Maul"
The first one would've definitely prevented the fall of the Jedi
Yeah@@Acevant
What if Anakin was trained by Darth JarJar
@@metal_pipe9764 Anakin would become the most powerful in the galaxy
If i were a jedi with the separatists, i would take a b1 battle droid as a pet, cuz they are so cute.
I'd probably would just try to befriend them.
@@Olivecheese965 they are sooooo cute 😍 right?
@@Moth-pz9vgno you dimwit
Noice as always Pente!
Day: 128: What if Talzin raised Maul?
Day: 59: What if Darth Plagueis trained Maul?
No why was it Plo! Plo is cool Kiadi is rubbish
What if Dooku and Ventress discovered Mortis and Qui Gon spoke to his Master as a Force ghost?
This is such a good concept for a what if! Legit love this channel and watch it all the time. Thank you for all the awesome stories.
OMG I rember asking for this so much, what a glorious time to return to this channel! Ty for always being there for us :3
Asajj and Obi-Wan got together ya don't say lol. The tension between those was so thick you couldn't cut it with a lightsaber
This is one of my favorite what if's that I've ever seen/listened to from your channel--kudos!
What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories.
Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself.
What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder.
What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia.
What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance.
What if oppo rancis trained anakin.
What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death.
What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings.
What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin.
Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.
This was one of the best what if’s I’ve ever seen. Magnificent work.
This was one of my favorite videos that you have made! Keep up the amazing content. Thank you!
Amazing Video, ya Really Put A Great Efforts in your What ifs
What if Padme became Force-Sensitive after giving birth to the twins and trained by Yoda and Obi-Wan to become the Rebel Alliance's Assassin?
God no, that's not how the force works, you can't just become force sensitive
@@levicarpenter5509 to be fair it is the force. I mean I agree I wouldn’t want to see that happen in a movie or anything but it’s a what if and you can get away with a lot more.
This is a good what if, it changed the entire landscape. Next maybe do what if the jedi were the ones in hiding in the phantom menace? Yoda and duku saving people like batman in a sith empire
Dooku: The CIS are the good guys.
Trade Federation: Ha ha........ yeah..... we totally didn't bully Naboo to sign some agreement....... ha ha.......
That's something that I don't get in the prequels, Palpatine is painted to be a change of the status quo in the galaxy, but instead the galaxy is in a worse place and he keeps being elected?
Banking clans were funding everything
The overall galaxy is a bad place because the outer and mid-rim were so much worse off then the core. To my knowledge there was a lot of change in the core worlds.
Have you seen any modern politics? This is unfortunately VERY realistic
What If Rex deserted the GAR after Fives died.
What if the GAR used droids and the CIS used clones
this turned out a LOT better then i expected. genuinely, this is by far my favorite What If scenario so far outside of the "what if the Sith Empire returned" one.
I’m surprised Ahsoka wasn’t added into the story since you killed off Pol koon it would be interesting how she would react to his death
Great what if story. What caught my attention was the referral of Jedis as being “expert warriors” despite them supposed to be peacekeepers (Qui Gon sure didn’t like to be called a warrior), and overlooking Ventress wielding red lightsabers. It makes me think that the Jedi could pick whichever side they want, do what’s right, and they’d still be blind to everything that’s wrong all around them. Very fitting 😂. Also nice parallel of Dooku taking Palpatine’s place as an “Unsuspecting Figure of Good Intentions but secretly holds power over the Dark Side”.
I liked this story I always wondered what if the Jedi was with the CIS, so I am glad I can hear your take on it
Awesome story mate, certainly fun to watch. Keep up the great work.
This really feels more in line with the orginal trilogy, like the jedi doing a failed coup against a corrupt government, only for it to become even worse over time.
This is honestly the best story you've ever written. such a cool story
i'm not really sure if grievous would fight alongside the jedi given that he hated them for not helping his planet in the fight against that bug species and he also blames them for becoming a cyborg. cool story though and i wish it could be explored further.
Yess!!!! I love these gray dooku stories, pls do more!!
Obi-Wan,Ventress,Anakin,Grievous, and Dooku in the same side is such a chaotic party
This was one of my favorite videos of yours!
thank you, have been wanting this for a long time
A Part 2 of this awesome what if would be so good.
Best video I've ever seen! Why? Because peace was restored to the galaxy, the Jedi are not destroyed, Dooku turned away from the Sith, and Anakin, by leading the assault that killed Palpatine, brought balance to the Force! 100% ❤ it!
Another Great One PPSW, you're on a roll 👏🏾👏🏾
Sorely needed this.
One of the best what if's ever
This was beautiful and amazing 👏
That's a masterpiece .. Best yet.
Been giving this idea to another creator for months glad u did it
Dude. Awesome story. Very enjoyable
"Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth sidius the unwise?"
"No."
"I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend." Count dooku or something
Man I can’t get enough of your vids!
I know you get a lot of suggestions but one I would like to see would be, what if the Death Star destroyed Yavin 4 instead of Alderaan? Keep up the amazing work!
A shot around the galaxy with the start of the revolution, man and women gain on the move
No lie this exceeded my expectations 🔥🔥🔥
This was awesome as usual
Long time viewer, this one is one of my favorites. Dooku was always my favorite character.
Another absolute banger of a video!
This feels...right. Just all around right.
Neat what-if story, it’s interesting to see Anakin & Obi-Wan teaming with Grievous & Asajj, heck it’s also REALLY interesting to see the Jedi fighting alongside the droid army!!
Also try doing….what if Padme became half droid, just for shock and almost graphic purposes lol
Finally, been wanting this scenario for quite some time now. Dooku's dark knight moment was the icing on the cake.
Grevious and Anakin being friends in this timeline, I like it, mostly since both were used and molded into weapons for the sith in the main universe