Jim Cornette on A&E's Randy Savage Biography
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- From Episode 190 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Macho Man Randy Savage is a perfect wrestler on Bret Hart’s scale - 10/10 promo, 10/10 worker, 10/10 look
As fans my friend and I give savage an 11/10 for looks and promos. 10 for wrestling ability
Can't argue with that.
Agreed, the only perfect score
I’ve always liked that scale, and I never thought about where macho ranks but this is really hard to argue with.
Bret wasn’t as good in promos than savage.
I agree with Cornette about the ones who never met him shouldn't be on the Biography
That's true.
Yep. It's one thing to possibly add a fans perspective on Savage so I could see using Rosenberg or that Soder guy but they featured them 2 more than everybody else aside from Hogan.
No brainer, what were they thinking?
@@brandonandujar2289 what does that have to do with anything?
@@davidholzer4155 he is a son of Abraham, say no more...
Cornette should be interviewed on every wrestling documentary because he is a legitimate wrestling historian and can talk about anybody for an hour.
Like him or not, it can't be denied that he is an absolute encyclopedia of wrestling knowledge.
too biased and opinionated
Romeo Alpha: I really like Jim a lot & respect his knowledge but I do agree that he is biased. Not mad @him for it because we all are sometimes. I do agree though.
@@robzilla730 All of the big wheels in sports are.
@@thetruth72667 we ALL are biased. There is no escape from it
The very first shot of the documentary was Hogan doing his impression. Coulda started with Savage, then people's impressions.
One of the reasons why Randy hated Hogan.
Hogan with his grandstanding and hogdogging!
@@Patrick-ud3vu blame Hogan all you want, and while I felt the opening with Hogan being unnecessary, the onus is on WWE and A&E, plain and simple.
@@r.josedefraga1205 exactly. Anyone with any wrestling acumen whatsoever would have known exactly how Hogan would be. He shouldn't be allowed any input besides a talking head. Or else you get him being the first shot of a Macho Man doc. Or 10 solid minutes of an Andre documentary where Andre isn't even mentioned as they overly explain Hulkamania and then frame WMIII as *Andres* career pinnacle (the music as Hogan recalls the final sequence is appallingly manipulative to that end).
I appreciate Hogan's place in history, but so does he, way too much.
@@inarar5334, like a lot of these people, Hogan's a complicated figure who polarizes, a lot of the stuff he says for the shock value and ridiculous nature that results is what I expect from all Pro Wrestlers. Even the ones that know how to play themselves a little more sincerely to the "smart crowd". I've learned to never take Hogan too seriously, and sadly what he said outside of his persona and as Terry Bollea about his daughter's boyfriend is what disappoints me far more.
WWE for some reason though loves to fan those flames between the legends of Hogan and Savage all too often. And this time A&E went along for the ride. I think it was an injustice that we didn't get to see the DDP and Savage feud in WCW revisited!
@@r.josedefraga1205 I don't trust a fucking word that comes out of his mouth, especially about Randy.
Bubba the Love Sponge is a p.o.s. 👍
Koakoaka,oa,o9ak8k
Agreed 💯! zero reason for that ahole to be in this!
@@CJBrowninLV Makes no sense why they would bring his and Hogan's bs radio trash talking in to a biography anyway. Fans might remember it, but it's not important to the life and legacy of Savage and really is a bad look.
Funny how everyone in the documentary who aired Randy's dirty laundry have laundry hampers the size of texas.
Yeah Rosenberg giving his initial thoughts on Savage's and Liz's relationship when he would have been 5 years old at the time was very insightful and totally believable
It’s up there with the same hyperbolic trolling bullshit that Hogan brings up. But I don’t expect the truth out of any of this stuff, it’s Pro Wrestling.
Because you cant recall events that happened when you were 5?, i vividly remember sporting events from 1993.
Maybe he was partying with them in Tampa when he was 5.
@@grayeighty8974 sure but I don't remember thinking the aspect behind their relationship was Macho's clear infatuation with Liz like Peter claims to have noticed the first time he saw them those are pretty advanced deductions skills for someone who would have been eating crayons in 1985
@@grayeighty8974 I sure as shit couldn’t determine real life relationship nuance about people I’ve never met because I saw them performing as characters on a TV show.
Read out loud what your point is and think really hard about why it sounds ridiculous
Thank goodness we got Natalya's insight into Savage's house and her fondness for Elizabeth.
I noticed they listed her as WWE Legend when first introduced and then under her name later on it was just WWE Wrestler
@@Peppers19781978 Yeah, when I saw that, I rolled my eyes because Nattie's a nice woman & a decent worker, but I wouldn't put her in the "legends" category yet. I was also surprised that they didn't have Bret or Greg comment on Randy, since after all they both did work with him.
You see the difference in how choreography is done by two HOFers in a big event compared to how bad the choreography is done today. They did it making things look unrehearsed, while today the performers make things look so obvious.
It looked rehearsed back then too
@Rad Ripley Yeah it did but a slow motion circus act.
The difference is that Savage and Steamboat were already 10 year veterans at this point and could call it in the ring in their sleep. This was them trying out something revolutionary after mastering the old school craft.
@@E_l_l_i_e The funny thing is old wrestlers gave them shit for it too because you were supposed to call it in the ring in those days.
@@nialllappin4159 yes, because it wss unconventional during that era. A wrestler's in ring skill was measured by his ability to call it on the fly, using the crowd's reaction to design a match right there and then. But Randy was known to dislike conformity. Even his worked punches were different.
I think that Savage scripted his matches as a creative exercise. Lanny said that when Randy found out that he'd have a feud with Warrior, he would watch Helwig's matches for hours and studied his strengths and weaknesses. He and Warrior planned their WM7 match around these. And that turned out to be Warrior's best match.
The Randy Savage doc was all over the place. And I knew King was wrong when he said he was next to Vince when they saw Randy debut in WCW. Savage debuted on WCW Saturday Night. Monday Nitro was not a thing yet.
He debuted in December of 1994 but left WWF in November. I remember watching that
I guess things can get blurry when they are 30 years old. But like Jim said. He was probably thinking of Luger.
@@MrJjburgess11 Corny is right cause the Luger thing was on Labor Day 1995
Lawyer gets this wrong all the time. He's thinking of Luger. Plus Mcmahon said his goodbye to Savage 3 weeks before he showed up on WCW Saturday night.
@@ryan4ever956 EXACTLY.
There was definitely too many cooks in the kitchen and some of them really didn't need to be there. Also it seemed like Vince didn't really have much to say about savage which kind of shocked me.
Well if the story of machoman and Stephanie is true then that's most likely the reason
@@theoriginalLG19 That story always seemed like bullshit to me, but over the years, including this burial of a doc, it seems more and more plausible. The second half of this doc went off the deep end.
@@robgbaby very similar to the destruction of the ultimate warrior
@@robgbaby Please don't fall for that old urban legend. It's been debunked again and again. It originated as a joke on an old wrestling newsgroup that spiraled out of control, but the story always shifts, dates don't match, and no one can corroborate it.
The truth is simple if you look at their history and go back and watch Vince interact with Randy back in his semiretirement period of the early 90s as a co-announcer: Vince considered Randy a close friend. He genuinely enjoyed working with him at the announce table. Hogan, another of his friends, jumped to WCW. Vince knew he was set to be indicted by the FBI in the steroid trial and was taking measures to avoid jail time. And this put WWF in danger. Savage did hold the Slim Jim contract too. Vince thought Savage was going to stick by him. When he didn't he felt betrayed and the two were never the same again.
Ask yourself: if Randy Savage had really molested his daughter, why were no charges ever pressed? And why did Vince put Savage in the Hall of Fame eventually anyway, even if posthumously? Why no sense of animosity from Steph or HHH when talking about Savage? Just does not track man, again to say nothing of the story shifting, contradicting dates, et. al.
It’s actually never been debunked at all
Randy savage voice was so iconic. One of the best for sure
Yeah, and they missed all the voice work he did. Pathetic episode.
Ooh YeaHH !!
@Rad Ripley sooooooo fuuu---nnnnn--iiiiiieeeeee
Also in bonesaws voice 🤣🤣🤣
Sala padhna ja
Oooh yeahhhh😎👌🏼💯🔥🔥🔥
So not only did Hogan have to move in on Randy's WWF championship celebration from Wrestlemania 4, but he had to make himself the star of his biography
That's sadly not all. When Savage won the World title for WCW, Hogan was doing the same "song and dance." Although, Savage did call him out on a promo right after the match.
@@TheMrBmurray
Hogan's grand standing in WCW 96 was way more obnoxious to the point of parody, almost like they were teasing a heel turn between him or Savage. People were beyond sick of Hogan in 96.
@@guardian08527yeah I can totally see that pre-nwo that they were trying to test the waters with heel hogan.
Randy savage wasn't even the main attraction leading up to WM4, the fans wanted to see another Hogan Vs Andre.
Bubba the Love Sponge being on this doc was beyond an atrocious decision
Well what else does Bubba The Lovespunge have now since Stern got rid of him on his channels!🤣
Isn’t a love sponge the name of the cleaning materials at a porno cinema?
It was. I don't get the outrage over the rest of it though. Yeah Nattie was an odd choice but whatever. Bubba was awful.
The rest of the outrage is ridiculous. They didn't say anything that bad. Nothing we didn't already know.
Obviously Hulk Hogan and him weren’t interviewed together
Hogan was afraid of Savage. He knew savage was better in the ring, better on the mic and more charismatic. If Hogan didn't stop Savage at every turn, we'd barely talk about Hogan.
"I've been in the danger zone" - Macho Man
Simply put, the Bio had things in it that were factually untrue, (Lawler's timeline, etc.) which in reality casts shadow onto everything else that was said. I'm pretty sure that every true fan of Macho Man understood that he was a bit troubled, he'd even admitted that himself (The Madness). But when they spent a good majority exploiting the lower points in his life, and actually even putting false things in there to make him look worse, (which was what that jump to WCW bit did....) Yikes! A&E should be ashamed.
I couldn’t finish “Randy Savage as Told by Hulk Hogan”
This is why I refuse to watch it.
randy slack, don't you mean randy savage as told by hulk hogan and his lover bubba the love sponge?
bubba telling the story about savage going to his lawyers and admitting he crapped himself was the dumbest thing i've ever seen, we're supposed to believe this garbage?
This felt like a hit job on the Macho Man. I hated it.
Agreed, I couldn’t watch that shit after the first hour or so. I was so disappointed.
Hogan used his creative control to sabotage this episode.
@@r.josedefraga1205 *Triple H
I couldn't agree more! Freak Out!
Yeah, a bunch of people dancing on his grave... It was horrible
It's Bonesaw McGraw! 🕷🕸
HEY FREAK SHOW!!!
I GOT YOU FOR 3 MINUTES!!!
best movie of my childhood
@@anthonypayne6284 Wet Kirsten Dunst. Spooge McDuck. Bonesaw was definitely ready.
"3 Minutes of "PlayTime"!"...
😜
I have that rap CD of randy savage. Still don't regret buying it lol
Same, plus i couldnt resist buying the "Be A Man" cd single 👍🏻
@Rad Ripley yeah I’m in your camp Ridley I’m kind of terrified of a deep “OOOOOOH YYYYYYEEEEAAAAAH” on a rap beat
Well god bless you will haha
@Rad Ripley You should it is fantastic.
Now you have a priceless piece of history
Randy is one of the greatest of all time. Not a shocking statement, but it needs to be said. Over and over and over. He is 300x better than anyone working today.
“It went plywood, almost made it sheet rock” 😂😂
I was hoping to hear from DDP and the importance of their feud for his career. I heard that was all Randy’s doing to get DDP over.
DDP said it was hogan in his kayfabe interview
in DDP’s piece on The Player’s Tribune, he credited Savage with truly making him
I’m surprised too, DDP trained with him and Macho got him into the main event scene too
Macho: Yeah, I'm thinking I wanna take the Diamond Cutter tonight.
DDP: Ok. Then you kick out and then--
Macho: No. I'm saying I'm taking the cutter tonight -- YEAH! DIG IT?!
DDP: Wait...What?!
Savage's endorsement helped but not as much as DDP being Bischoff's swinging neighbor helped.
I met Randy Savage in panama city, Florida 1989 at a steak house & he paid for me & my girlfriends dinner.... Super Guy
That's what the Madness does! Oooooooooooooooooooh Yeeeeeeeeaaahh! Dig It!
The Dark Side of the Ring episode on Randy was better than this biography.
Dark side of the Ring is much better than anything a&e can do just because the guys that run dark side of the Ring are not in bed with the WWE
Bingo. A lot of Elizabeth and NO Sherry!?
Sherry was mentioned & shown in it.
@@CoolCATs2814 She was glossed over when her and Randy were together for close to 2 years as the top heel couple in the business.
They spent like 2 minutes
@@robgbaby Still mentioned & shown, which I was responding to.
The Fat Sponge.🤣🤣
People that didn't know Randy well speaking on Randy's life, that makes sense🤦
In the Macho Man biography that aired on the WWE network a few years back, Lanny Poffo said the original idea for Randy’s valet/manager was Missy Hyatt.
Cool, thanks for the info broad.
Missy Hyatt was so hot back then.
oh the original good time had by all
It's TRUE they wanted to bring in missy Hyatt at that time
And that wasn’t true. It was going to be Greg Valentine’s then-wife.
Be a man Hogan
classic lol
Don't be scared you're running from macho that's what I heard.
Be a man, Hulk
@KaneMagus I couldn't decide how to spell it lol. Thank you good sir.
Lawler confused Savage's exit with Lex Luger's. Savage caught Vince off guard by leaving WWE but he didn't show up on WCW TV without Vince knowing. Bruce Prichard has told the story about how Vince came to him and Pat in the morning and told him that "Randy Savage is now the property of WCW" cause Randy called Vince the night before and told him. Patterson confirmed this story at one of Bruce's live shows so it isn't just Bruce B.S.
edit: I see Jim covered this, didn't know if he would catch it and talk about it.
Anyone with half a brain will catch that error. Mcmahon announced Savage's departure on November 7, 1994. Randy's first appearance in WCW was in mid December, just a few days before Starrcade. That means that a whole month had passed from the time Savage told Vince he was leaving to his WCW debut. So it's either of the two: Lawler's wrong, or Vince can predict the future.
Thank you Matt Thomas because they discussed it on dark side of the ring featuring randy and miss Elizabeth
You & Corny called it! 👍🏻
About 20 years ago AE did a Biography on Hogan. In the doc they showed a clip of Hogan slamming Andre at WM3 and the narrator stated Hogan defeated Andre to win the the title. That was the last Biography show I bothered watching.
This was more of a hit job than a biography. Guy had some of the best promos in the business. So much more they could've done here. Very disappointed.
Yup it was
as a performer sure he was pretty great but as a person he was pretty terrible. It's very rare to find someone who has great things to say about him in his personal life. I'm glad he seemed to find peace near the end there but I'm glad they didn't just do a fluff job and make him out to be a great man cause best we can tell he wasn't really.
@@krectus
Yeah I guess so.
You have to take the fandom out of it a little
@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt His behavior was definitely abusive. Just because we are a fan of someone does not mean we should defend everything that person does. Bad News Brown did a shoot before he died where he claimed that Randy used to lock Elizabeth in a room. I was not sure I believed it until I heard it confirmed in this doc.
@@fightsports66 "Abusive" puts him on the same level as Lex Luger or Jimmy Snuka though. It's more helpful to say that he was paranoid and over-protective, and that those habits destroyed his marriage. There's also the matter of Liz's own agency in the matter. As for nobody having great things to say about him in his personal life, it's not as if this documentary, which clearly focused on the negative in its second half, interviewed his widow, with whom he had a happy relationship even before their official marriage, rather than his bitter ex.
Lanny is great. I love his honesty and integrity. "I gave my answer" should be memorized by anyone being interviewed.
Its obvious how Macho felt about Elizabeth death and the other wrestler involved.
I respect that macho, and Lanny didn't Trash talk them publicly.
Rip Randy Savage, we miss you buddy.
I was saddened to hear that Lanny died earlier this year. He seemed so youthful and healthy. I always enjoyed when he’d pop up on one of the documentaries. He seemed so kind and respectful.
The next time I have to deal with a pushy person who won't take "no" for an answer..........
Apparently, Randy helped out his little brother Lanny a lot.
Flair and steamboat didn't need to talk about their match because there's only so many times you can say chop, arm drag or suplex
Yeah, this.
"It went plywood."
I laughed out loud.
almost sheetrock - amazing line . made that my facebook status even .
Hogan grandstanding and hotdogging once again! It should just have been Lanny Poffo, Vince, Bruce, Steamboat, Bret and yeah probably Hogan, guys that at least worked with him directly and knew him well. They just made Randy out to be a lunatic. You can't bury the Macho Madness Oooooooohhh Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhh!!!
It was a hatchet job on Savage. They clearly weren't fans of Savage.
well savage was a white, straight male so i guess he deserved it
i'm sure a&e will try to justify booker t being a criminal for his documentary and make him out to be a victim of white supremacy and systemic racism while showing his million title reigns in wcw and wwf
@@britishbulldogsvsthehartfo5677 that's probably true, but black or white, Booker t doesn't belong with the legit legends in the AE series. Not even close.
@@kenhernandez8128 Yup, Booker T was never WWE champion but is a "legend"? LOL
@@kenhernandez8128 i agree, when i heard his name along with savage, piper and austin i stopped for a moment and thought it was a mistake, then i laughed and then i thought a&e must have some sort of diversity and inclusion policy, they could have done a documentary on the rock, tony atlas or even ahmed johnson (have ron simmons talk about how much he hates him for half of it), new jack would be the best choice
@@That90sShow Functionally, what is the difference between being WWE Champion and WWE's World Heavyweight Champion? Raw and Smackdown traded them like "I hosted Christmas last year, so it's your turn."
Bubba the love Sponge plus Hogan : priceless
I don’t think think those 2 could have come off as more scumbags than that show.
@@chrisconley8583 Hogan is Hogan but that Bubba the Love Sponge is weird af
@@chrisconley8583 oh please, the subject of the documentary itself doesn’t exactly sound like a pillar of the community, especially with the drug vices and the stuff Gorgeous George was talking about. These people are all media projections, period. Moralists need not apply...
@M M God no! I am a flawed human being like most of us!
Linda Hogan is SOOOOOOOOOO the kinda woman to let her married gf hideout at her vacation home with a boyfriend. She would encourage it. Hulk turned a blind eye to it but as a friend and as a business partner he was wrong! Savage was pissed about his wife but he also seems like the type to think “if somebody sees Elizabeth with another man” it foils everything we have going on on tv. Linda was surely doing the same to Hulk tho,she just has that energy.
When Jim starts cracking up laughing...so does the world. Love this and every episode.
Bubba The Love Sponge really burnt me the fuck up. Him and Gorgeous George pissed me off.
Definitely too many fans, too. Otherwise I enjoyed it.
#threecountcommentaries
Ecstasy is not the drug that I would have guessed that the Macho Man was on.
The part about him keeping around $100 worth of ecstasy in his Fanny pack. That's badass
Well the cocaine goes without saying.
He used to dress like someone who is at Cochella so why doesn't it make sense?
@@markl5998 in northern Ireland you would be lucky to get 5 Es for a 100 bucks 🤣🤣🤣
@@BigBadJerryRogers coachella burnouts look like machoman 80s style not the other way around.
This was a hulk Hogan documentary
Sadly, yes. We especially could have done without Hogan being featured before the end credits.
Hotdogging and grandstanding. Some things never change.
i'm sure hulk's original idea for the macho man documentary was to show 2 hours of footage of him beating up and pinning savage with a picture in picture of him posing the entire time and saying "brother" a million times
Has Corny ever actually reviewed Macho Man's rap CD from back in the day? If not, that should be a segment.
That documentary was so disingenuous to Randy Savage. Complete hatchet job. It was disgraceful and the allegations were nothing but hearsay.
Absolute burial of one of the greats. He didn't deserve this.
Say what you will Randy has some hot tracks on that album. It’s on Spotify.
Dark Side of the RING did a better job talking about Savage then A&E
They did a hell of a job with the Roddy Pipper Biography while the Steve Austin one was nothing new we didnt really see before but wasnt bad but the Randy Savage one was a disgrace. They should have worked with Lanny Poffo if they wanted a more rounded biography on Randy Savage.
I don't remember the WWF Stone Cold boxset covering Austin's personal issues during the highlights of his career.
This episode was produced by Billy Corben and Alfred Spellman (Cocaine Cowboys, Screwball, The U). Corben has a relationship and has been a show guest of BTLS over the years. Could also be why the episode concentrated so much on FL, more specifically Tampa.
That explains a lot, thank you. A&E definitely picked the wrong producers for this episode.
I like Cocaine Cowboys and most of Corben’s stuff but he was way out of place here. As a fan I always associated Savage with his worked hometown of Sarasota. Don’t really care about the local wrestler Tampa drama at all.
Is it documentary about Elizabeth, or Randy Savage? I hoped to find out how Savage created his character and persona at the very beginning of his career, but I guess Elizabeth's drug problems are more important
I’ll tell you how Macho created that persona; he was born. Randy was that intense outside the ring.
I will say the same thing as been said before. When Hogan dies he will have himself buried over Randy Savage so he can go over him one more time
Hogan sleeps without a blanket so it can't cover him.
Even on his own documentary, he cant get out of Hogans shadow.
Two old timers in the business you always take with a grain of salt; Hulk Hogan, and the Honky Tonk Man. One will tell he’s God’s gift to wrestling, the other will tell you the same thing, but make everyone else look like a complete asshole doing it.
HOgan has been far more truthful lately in documentaries. He admitted in the Yoko doc that taking the title at Wrestlemania 9 was a bad idea, admitted that Piper was a big reason he became a big star, and he has been far more subdued in these A&E documentaries.
@@chriskay1449 I still remember all the crap he said about how he’s the reason Mark Calloway started in the WWF, and the whole faking a neck injury in their title match to politic his way back into the title. It’s like with Shawn, the more I here about who he was back stage, the less I respect I have for the man.
@@joshfernandez2262 The faking of the neck injury was debunked. He never did that.
“It went plywood and almost made it to sheetrock” bruhhhhhh😂
Should have interviewed that Waffle House guy...
lol
Damn, that would've been great. I want to know if the Waffle House guy is still married.
Maybe the whole documentary was a metaphor for Hogan being the glass ceiling of Macho Man's career
@Hidden Sword Hogan made Savage do all those things, if Hogan didn’t exist, Savage would have treated Liz far better.
@@r.josedefraga1205 That's way too convenient for Savage, that's an excuse.
@@walsh9080, I know but the “smart fans” make a convincing argument, don’t they?!
If Hogan and his sponge "friend" are taking up time on it then it's not worth watching.
Lmfao @ his Bubba the Love Sponge comment. 😆
"Fat Sponge".... lol gotta love cornette!
Bubba and Hogan’s “lawsuit” was a work in order for Hogan to recoup some of what Linda took in the divorce and Gawker picked up the tab.
This showed me why Macho Man never fucked with Hogan and why i’ll never care for him beyond my childhood memories. Jim hit the nail on the head “EGREGIOUSLY AND OBNOXIOUSLY DISINGENUOUS” ...everything Hogan says is a round about way of putting himself over which is really ironic because he spent so many years making kids believe how genuine he was. Bubba the love sponge and Gorgeous George’s sister needing her face hidden for dramatic effect made my stomach turn.
Rip the GOAT Randy Savage.
was half expecting toby macguire to show up
I never met Savage, but think his elbow drop was pretty good. They can interview me in a follow up documentary.
that's probably what dan soder and peter rosenberg said in a random email to a&e
@@britishbulldogsvsthehartfo5677 Soder had a recent interview about the documentary. The producers reach out to him, not vice versa. He didn't know that his part would be that long and acknowledged that it shouldnt be.
@@E_l_l_i_e soder and rosenberg should not have been on the documentary, they did not know savage, they never met him and they never saw any of savage's matches, their so called experiences with the macho man were very generic, obnoxious and false
I didn't like it. You have to be consistent. There was much more unflattering stuff, which was completely avoided in the Piper doc and the Austin one. You're going to mention Randy spied on his his girlfriend but completely ignore that Austin beat his wife?
Elizabeth should have her own documentary. That’s a side story not to be lumped with Randy too much. I also don’t believe Randy tried to boink Stephanie either, and Hogan just need to pull his sly insults back some. You’re not fooling anyone BROTHER!
Hogan had to steal Savage shine even in his biography.
Cannot wait to see Hogan's involvement in this week's Booker episode
Well he did teach Booker how to wrestle & do promos, he pushed him backstage to the main event status & he saved him from burning oil refinery, so yeah I would think he is going to be there.
@@vanderful2397 I think that fact alone proves all the BS about him being racist false.
@@Clay3613 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you’ve gotta be kidding
Austin, Piper,Savage......Booker T? He clearly doesn't belong here.Not even close.
@@kenhernandez8128 Sure he is below those guys, but he is above a lot of people. He had a great career as singles and as tag teams wrestler. I would say he is little below Foley, but not by much & his story should be good.
GG has stated before that Randy admitted the whole Stephanie thing to her while they were on ecstasy lol. Guessing they left that part out of the doc.
Yeah you would at least think Stephanie should’ve did the into
@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt In the clip I heard, she definitely confirmed it lol. It was a few years ago I believe. But there were really no blurred lines in how she was asked about it and how she answered it. Of course it's only her word and you can choose to believe her or not, but she did know the man quite intimately and doesn't seem to hold much ill will at all towards him despite some of the creepy shit she claims he said and did. I haven't heard her go out of her way to tarnish his name at all, it's always been questions asked of her that she simply answered. But hey, who knows.
I’ve just commented somewhere else that her story has changed over the years. She said in one video that Randy couldn’t even change a lightbulb on his own. I’m struggling to believe he could set up a secret surveillance system in her home without anyone noticing lol.
@ItsStillRealToMe DamnIt And even if she had directly stated it, someone on drugs remembering what someone else on drugs said to them more than a decade ago is the sort of evidence that gets laughed out of court.
GG did no such thing. And you are taking the word of a woman who was on drugs as fact.
Machoman is my all time favorite wrestler. Knowing about his private life in a documentary isn't really as important as his in ring work.
But the show is called biography, not career. They have to balance covering different aspects of their lives.
@@SLURM187 Yes, but the balance was off here.
@@Apuleius_ It wasn't. The fanboys are just sensitive because Randy's personal life was put under the microscope. If A&E did an episode on Hogan, all the hypocrites would want to see less of Hogan's in-ring career and more of the issues in his personal life.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Nope. Savage's personal life was also put under the microscope in Dark Side and nobody complained, probably because it didn't take a tabloid approach. The A&E Biography focused on one match of Savage's and neglected the rest, which doesn't make sense for a wrestler who had many acclaimed matches and is usually regarded as a better worker than Hogan.
On the George part it wasn’t about the X; it was about putting cameras all over their place, in every single area, while the sister was a sophomore in high school. She’s said he had asked for the 3 of em to do stuff all together as well, and again she was underage so who knows. You could tell she was rattled thinking about it all, so I definitely believe her that it was a lot worse like she said, it was obvious with how crazy he was with Elizabeth. I love Randy, wish that stuff didn’t happen, drugs didn’t help how he acted either. I’m just glad In the end he married his lifetime love and to see him
Happy and content. well never see another Macho, amazing all the way around. Documentary was decent I thought, but definitely was all over the place. In a way it was a little unfair in terms of personal issues compared to Rowdy and Austin. rowdy they mentioned quickly some issues but
With little detail and breezes through. Then with Austin they didn’t even touch on the domestic situations. So they need to either go all in on the bad stuff or leave it out, I think at least.
This comment is all over the place too
I thought George said her sister was 17 when she met Randy thats why she left her son with her while they went on the road and that run in WCW was a year at best,so did this happen when she was a sophomore in highschool or senior or was it by the end of the relationship when she was more than likely 18
George was a lying cooze and she was full of shit. She was with Mach for like a year and to this day she’s trynna make bank off that one thing. Dragging his name through the mud for exposure smdh.
We should have had Randy team with Roddy and Ricky vs. Jericho at Wrestlemania 25 instead Of Snuka.
Its so crazy that Hulk Hogan once made us “believe” in wrestling so much but he’s soooooo incredibly disingenuous now,its disgusting. Just the way he tells a story,nothing and i mean nothing sounds like any real emotion or not geared toward to putting himself over. This is why he gets boo’d or the audience just doesnt care anymore,he’s fake and phony and Randy always knew this thats why they never meshed. Randy was too Real at his core to ever intermingle with Hogan on a real level.
I was always in the minority as a kid watching wrestling because I was never a Hogan fan.
They got Natalya, R truth and Curt Hawkins but not Bayley who idolized Randy Savage?
I really don't understand why bubba the love sponge was interviewed for this episode.
"The Fat Sponge" 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Bryan Curt Hawkins Meyers talking about savage's baseball career, huh?
I was wondering if I was watching a Randy Savage doc or Miss Elizabeth doc. She got just as much time as Randy did.
Did you stop watching after 30 mins?
@Tiger He was somebody before she came into the picture, and was an even bigger star after they split up.
@Tiger He was more famous in WCW with his slim jim commercials. And Savage was in WWE until 94. Elizabeth added nothing but standing at ringside making stupid faces and crying at a drop of a hat. Macho did all the work.
@Tiger 96-99 wrestling had another boom bigger than in the 80's and he was a part of that boom as well. What did Elizabeth do that was so great?
@@rickpowers3677 Nah Randy is most famous for his 80s run. Elizabeth was such a big part of his career they reunited in WCW too.
His mom seems like such a nice lady
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Was pleasantly surprised his mother was still alive, Macho would be almost 70 by now
@@jaredbellow That footage was from 2014. She passed away a few years ago.
This was such a weird episode, almost like a hit piece compared to the Austin and piper one.
It was. They clearly weren't fans of Savage.
maybe like the shoots say, Randy was an asshole. It is bizarre that wrestling fans create their own narratives. Routinely in the shoots Randy is painted as an ass most of the time
@@1980Triumph Most of the shoots say I've heard say that Randy could be paranoid and stand-offish if he didn't like you, but if he did there were often no problems. Not that he was a straight-up asshole. Cornette himself has spoken highly of Savage several times.
The Austin one brushed right over his actual domestic violence conviction but this made wild allegations about Savage’s marriages
@@Apuleius_ Cornette is a phony and delusional. He will bend the knee and celebrate anyone who hated Hogan.
“The fat sponge…” Cornette is a gem.
"It went plywood it almost went sheetrock" made me laugh out loud alone
I agree. I don't know why some of the talking heads were there... but I also don't know why coverage of the rap album and Lex & Liz's relationship got covered when things like the snake bite and the Mega Powers were not.
Did savage have Steph macmahon ? That's all people want to know
Yes he did
Well rearrange "Stephanie McMahon" and you get "The Macho Man Penis" so... I don't believe coincidences.
@@kidneystonermusic Hahahahaha!
@@kidneystonermusic holy shit
@@kidneystonermusic Goddamn, buddy! That's gold!
Yeah this was so weird. They had Nattie, Bubba The Love Sponge, one of Randy's hometown friend, they even had Sting lol. But didn't get DDP or even the older interview they got of him. The whole action figure motif was also weird.
They interviewed Bret Hart questions about Savage but Bret liked him and said good things so it never made the show.
@@That90sShow oh yeah I also saw they had DDP footage but never used it. DDP and Savage were a great feud in WCW.
They did Randy dirty in the documentary. They skip WM 4 and 5. But bring up him on E, and this bubba the love sponge bullshit.
I feel like Randy gets a bad rap about the Elizabeth stuff. It seems like she needed to be controlled.
Hit job! To be fair should have had Debra on Stone Cold's episode.
Exactly!
The problem is they had the Roddy and Stone Cold matches as complete puff pieces, which I’m fine with considering I’m huge fans of both but they really devoted so much unnecessary time to Macho’s inner demons and basically glossed over the good he did as if it were after thoughts. It was a spit in the face of Randy.
@@KingKhanate1997 Hogan used his creative control for the Macho Man episode.
The difference is that Austin was still alive to shoot that down.
Hogan all over the doc was ridiculous. Macho hated him
Imagine doing a biography on HHH and bringing up him being a steroid freak, brown noser, bag carrier, racist, woman abuser, etc.... I WONDER IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN??
You mentioning HHH and steroids made me think about when Scott Steiner said the wwe wanted to steroid test him he said ok have HHH pick me up and we'll go together lol Scott said they never tried to test him again.
Happened so fast can't even talk about it. On the real though, how do you screw up a documentary on Macho Man so badly? They need to part ways with this director.
It's like the editor in chief of the National Enquirer directed this thing.
The producers of Dark Side of the Ring did a waayy better job telling Randy Savages' story. Just saying... A&E should just stop.
They are partnered with WWE. What did you really expect?
@@TomClacy5871 nothing. It's too much to ask WWE for something good to watch.
They did good with Pipers and Austin's.
@@MrJjburgess11 Nah the Austin one totally skipped his wife beating antics
@Rad Ripley That would be a great name for a wrestling company
"Presented like a mob witness" That killed me!
SNAP INTO A SLIM-JIM OHHHH YEAAAAHHHH!!!!!!
What got me, when they showed Sting, they identified him as WWE hall of famer, that is like saying the Beatles were a rock band. Besides Sting hardly wrestled for WWE, this obviously has WWE written all over it
I haven't watch the Savage one yet. I've watched Austin and Pipers. Pipers has been my favorite
All they do is pretty much trash him. You're not missing anything if you don't watch this one. It was absolute garbage in my opinion.
Same, Piper is what A&E should use as a template (and don't vear off a cliff like Savage's). 👍🏻
I liked the WWE blu ray documentary from 5 years ago. More enjoyable in my opinion. A lot of the same stories.
@@ryan4ever956 I watched the doc enough times to know you're full of it when you say all they did was trash Randy. They literally spent half to most of it talking Randy up.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Don't know what Doc you watched cause the Radio Guy, Hogan, Gorgeous George pretty much trashed him but whatever floats your boat man.
Bischoff made comments about Lugar/Elizabeth years ago. There was a documented history there.
Had to google Bubba the Love Sponge. First thing I saw was a photo of him wearing a MAGA hat. I closed the tab.
I haven't seen it yet but it doesn't make any sense to bring in the Lex Luger-Elizabeth situation. Her and Randy were long since divorced by that time.
@wolfman02 Not at that time they were long since divorced at out of each other's life.
@@rickpowers3677 So? If you actually followed the stoy, Liz's death hit Randy very hard. She still meant a lot to him. He still loved her. You don't have to be married to be important to someone.
Natty was around as a child in florida was the gist of her interaction meeting miss Elizabeth in tampa i assume thats why she was on the program
i'm sure nattie has some interesting road stories about her and savage's time in icw and memphis, so hopefully they'll have a part 2 and then we can hear about that
Randy set up the hidden cams in gg's house. That was the most shocking to me
How can you just believe this without any scrutiny whatsoever? George’s story about the reason they split has changed several times throughout the years. This surveillance story is a relatively new one. Does she have a motive to lie? Yes! She wants to release a book and make money from shoot interviews.
how did she get the key to his fuse box? they call randy a control freak but he just leaves the most important key in his life laying around? does anyone believe that gorgeous george does any cleaning or housework? that's why she was a stripper because cooking, cleaning and a regular job are beneath her and why didn't she go to the police? and why would she want to be alone in a car with her stalker? why ask savage to take her home? after finding out something like that you want to be left alone with the guy?
how can we believe her when she bragged about being high all the time
"A little pitchy to me,Dog!" 😂