Food Packing for a Backpack Hunt - Hunting Tips

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  • Опубликовано: 11 авг 2014
  • KUIU's Jason Hairston goes over his tips for packing his food for long backpack hunts with food weight and caloric intake in mind.
    At KUIU we focus on building ultralight products and we work to shave grams off of our products and gear. Our customers forget to look at the biggest weight contributor in your pack: food.
    When going on these trips up north, instead of relying on guides, I pack my own food. I know exactly how much I need, I figure out calories per ounce, I weigh it and I pack it and I make sure I have just enough to get me through the trip. I’m not overpacked which is typically the problem. Guides overload you with food, and you carry excess weight, which as we know can impact your performance on mountains and how your legs feel as the trip goes on.
    Here’s how I pack, what I bring and what I expect as far as a daily weight of food.
    I tried all the different dehydrated food and Mountain House is consistently my favorite. My day starts with a Mountain House breakfast. A skillet breakfast: eggs, potatoes, and it tastes surprisingly good for a dehydrated breakfast and seems to hold me over longer than an oatmeal would in the morning.
    I prepack every day’s food into a one gallon ziplock. This makes it easy to pack and you can burn all your garbage and you have a concise set-up for the day in a grab bag.
    What I’m taking: is a basic setup, it’s what I’ve found over the years to work best. I’ve gone away from power bars and Cliff bars and more into normal food that sits with my stomach better because it’s not just pure sugar and carbohydrates.
    What I have here is two bagels, beef jerky, and fritos. Fritos are a great backpacking food because they’re extremely high calories per ounce and have some salt and they taste great. I have a couple slices of cheese, precooked bacon, and salami and that stays without having to be chilled. Prepacked jack and colby cheese, two for each day, a Snickers bar, and a Reese’s PB cup, both high calories per ounce and as much nutrition as a Cliff Bar.
    At night another Mountain House dinner: beef stroganoff, and I’ll intermix diff flavors throughout the week. This weighs one pound and 14 oz.. I try to get between 1.5 - 2 lbs. 2 lbs on the heavy side for me. I try to avg 120-140 calories per ounce, about three and four thousand calories per day. You’re not going to be able to keep up with how many calories you burn on a hike. You’ll burn about 1000/hr when you’re climbing with a backpack on, sometimes more than that, so you want to try and bring food your stomach is going to like, and tastes good. I’ve tried just bringing power bars and Cliff bars and by day four you’re tired of eating them and your body doesn’t perform as well.
    This is the food system that works for me on a big backpack hunt, like the 12 day backpack sheep hunt I’m going on tomorrow.
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Комментарии • 63

  • @frisk151
    @frisk151 Год назад +2

    RIP brother.. :(. Love your gear!!

  • @BigBuckBootCamp
    @BigBuckBootCamp 9 лет назад +11

    As always Jason's expert advice from years of experience on ultra light hunting trips can go a long way on your next hunt, great job Jason, thanks

  • @susangiggie7996
    @susangiggie7996 4 года назад +5

    Take a large ziplock with a dozen well pickled eggs in a little bit of the brine. No refrigeration necessary. Great for a quick satisfying blast of flavour and energy. I have learned to like them, with salt and pepper and sliced up on a plate, but on the trail it's the old fashioned way. Salt and pepper and bite. Also pickled hot dogs can be a good snack as well. Better double up the ziplocks, and you don't need much of the brine at all, just a little splash so they stay moistened.

  • @DykesJon
    @DykesJon 10 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing your experience. This is the kind of stuff that makes a big difference and can determine success.

  • @TheChadavis33
    @TheChadavis33 10 лет назад +2

    Keep it up Jason. You guys are doing great things.

  • @joemoade
    @joemoade 10 лет назад

    Thank you, great stuff. Best of luck on your hunt!

  • @tonybennett4922
    @tonybennett4922 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant advice , can't beat experience 👌👌 Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @pahuntnut
    @pahuntnut 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info. I like the package for a day idea. I read also where Cliff and Power bars are really the same as candy bars.

  • @lukeeson
    @lukeeson 10 лет назад +1

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I would love to see more videos of how you pack for a trip!

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  10 лет назад +4

      We'll see what we can do for you on that--there should be plenty of opportunities to show you how we put a hunting pack together.

  • @WRYMEDIA
    @WRYMEDIA 7 лет назад

    Grat job on the video guys. Keep it up!

  • @TheHuntingSpot
    @TheHuntingSpot 2 года назад

    Great advise!!!

  • @jeubanks73
    @jeubanks73 5 лет назад +7

    R.I.P.

  • @howitzeroutdoors
    @howitzeroutdoors 4 года назад

    12 DAY PACK HUNT! That's has to be a chore!

  • @f.p.santos1172
    @f.p.santos1172 8 лет назад +5

    Heathers choice is the way to go! its organic and it has less sodium than mountain house meals

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  8 лет назад

      A few of the guys around here have tried those. Some liked them a lot, some didn't.

    • @wolferine6466
      @wolferine6466 5 лет назад

      F.P. SANTOS thanks for the recommendation!

    • @agawied2910
      @agawied2910 5 лет назад +3

      KUIU Ultralight Hunting you replied to this inane comment but don’t reply to any of the comments telling you not to burn plastic in the backcountry, might have just lost a customer. Don’t want to wear a brand that doesn’t give a damn about the land they’re blessed to exploit.

    • @bendrixbailey1430
      @bendrixbailey1430 Год назад

      Some taste good but generally take a long time to rehydrate, and never do fully rehydrate. I’ve crunched a lot of partially hydrated meat in HC meal. I’ve eaten more than 30 of them so lots of experience.

  • @ryanlaroche5103
    @ryanlaroche5103 3 года назад +2

    R.I.P

  • @cheytay32
    @cheytay32 8 лет назад +2

    I was just talking to a buddy last night about doing a bivy hunt in Montana for Elk. He was saying he has gone back to real food like bagels and peanut butter as well. His concern was the amount of water that Mountain House requires to make. Some places don't have the avail of water. even with a steri pen. And packing that much water is a pain. Jason, any thoughts on that?

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  8 лет назад +1

      +cheytay32 That's exactly why Jason isn't using dehydrated stuff as much. However, packing or filtering water is essential, obviously. Jason's using a gravity fed filter these days, which he'll leave at base camp to filter during the day.

  • @fireyourrocketts
    @fireyourrocketts 8 лет назад

    What kind of backpack you use to haul all that? I would like to plan for a hunting trip myself in the near future God willing but the biggest pack I have for that is the Eberlestock Skycrane J79 pack with all the extras and whistles, close to like 12 pounds just the packs itself and I don't think it can hold that amount of food unless leaving everything else behind! just curious here :)

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  7 лет назад

      We're using our own line of packs--Jason usually uses an Icon Pro pack. All of our packs are 5 pounds or less, and our 11 oz carbon fiber frames can carry 150 pounds without flinching. You can find out more about them here: ruclips.net/video/2YMwGXzKCQ4/видео.html and here: ruclips.net/video/A3ZlHLGWGgs/видео.html

  • @swampdog1129
    @swampdog1129 8 лет назад +2

    So the prepackaged cheeses and salami will keep as long as 10 days unrefrigerated?

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  8 лет назад +4

      +swampdog112 We wouldn't call the places you go to hunt sheep "unrefrigerated." "Naturally refrigerated," perhaps :)

    • @swampdog1129
      @swampdog1129 8 лет назад +1

      +KUIU Ultralight Hunting Haha true... I'm going on a antelope and elk hunt in Wyoming next month for seven days. The highs will range anywhere between 50 and 70 and the lowes will be between 20 and 40. I was just wondering if the cheese specifically would be OK at those temperatures for seven days? Thanks!

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  8 лет назад +10

      That's a good question--the cured meats certainly can handle it. But regarding the cheeses, the FDA would tell you that it's not a good idea, so we probably shouldn't specifically recommend it for a hunt like that :). However, I can tell you that the lower the moisture content of a cheese, the better it will do; so think aged cheeses like manchegos, Old Amsterdam goudas, or aged cheddars, wrapped tightly in plastic wrap so they don't sweat. Soft cheese like blue cheeses and brie will develop mold so fast that they become intelligent and shoot the animals themselves, so I wouldn't bring them along...

    • @swampdog1129
      @swampdog1129 8 лет назад +1

      +KUIU Ultralight Hunting hahaha great info thanks!

  • @casey197930
    @casey197930 7 лет назад

    If anyone is like me, Mountain House does not satisfie. I open the package and add a bag of instant noodles. I then vacuum seal it. Even with the extra noodles it's smaller than the original packaging once vacuum sealed.

    • @dpwild328
      @dpwild328 7 лет назад

      FartsInCrowds do you cook it in the vacuum packaging or do you have to cook it in a pot?

    • @casey197930
      @casey197930 7 лет назад

      dpwild328 A pot.
      I dont like to pack out trash, the vacuum bags also burn away better than the aluminum coated mountain house.

    • @dpwild328
      @dpwild328 7 лет назад

      Are you able to add hot water to the vacuum bags and cook the meals as you would in the original packaging?

    • @casey197930
      @casey197930 7 лет назад

      dpwild328 I'd test that at home first. The vacuum seal is made by heat, good chance that adding hot water would compromise the seal.

    • @dpwild328
      @dpwild328 7 лет назад

      How do you cook yours?

  • @natevirnig3512
    @natevirnig3512 6 лет назад +4

    do you really work for a camping co and recco'ing to burn plastic?

    • @kalikasurf
      @kalikasurf 5 лет назад

      nate virnig you could always put it in your tent for the bears.......

    • @deerhunter7482
      @deerhunter7482 5 лет назад +3

      Burn a plastic bag big deal you burn up tires when you drive a car and unless you walk everywhere and don't have electricity you burn oil or coal or natural gas what's the difference .

  • @jjcochran8599
    @jjcochran8599 Год назад

    Yes sir! Someone finally said it. Burn that trash and cover it up. The pack it out people are full of crap. Pack it out so the government can charge you to bury it without breaking it down first. 😂

  • @jarednelson1865
    @jarednelson1865 7 лет назад +3

    I love how everyone has an opinion these days and wants to beat everyone over the head with it. Can't we all just laugh at the meal named, "beef stroganoff" and move on?

  • @tylersnider3479
    @tylersnider3479 7 лет назад +26

    your seriously burning your plastics out there? empty wrappers weigh nothing and i think with how big hunting is getting guys who have a large reach shouldnt be telling people to burn their trash. pack it in pack it out. dont go to remote awesome places and leave toxic residue in a fire pit thats terrible for nature and looks bad on us hunters. i keep seeing people saying their doing that and its careless. it seems small but if half the people who have watched this video hunt or hike and burn 1 bag thats nearly 15 thousand plastic bags.

    • @TheNutzandBoltz
      @TheNutzandBoltz 7 лет назад +3

      Tyler Snider Yet you have no issue with the 400 gallons of gas burned with all the scouting and multiple trips? Burn it then cover it with dirt.

    • @tylersnider3479
      @tylersnider3479 7 лет назад +4

      oh no i fully realize all of the pollution from elsewhere, i just think if we can do small things it contributes overall to a cleaner environment. I actually work in the waste industry. A lot of the trash ends up being burnt anyway, but that happens when large waste companies buy a landfill and converts all of the burnt trash into electricity and feeds it back into the grid. Other plastics are mined and broken down into raw materials and sold. as a hunter i hear a lot of guys pride in saying "we're the only ones paying for protecting the animals and keeping the trails open" which is true to an extent. But going out into the mountains to hunt and seeing things most people will never having the privilege to see, and then burning a bunch of stuff and burying it, is taking a big shit on nature.

    • @TheNutzandBoltz
      @TheNutzandBoltz 7 лет назад +2

      Tyler Snider Good points, I often post a thought that hits a cord, blind to the time and creativity of the video posted free for me to watch. Yes we all have ideas of what is appropriate. Burnt trash that is then buried is better than seeing it intact on the Mnt. Packing it out trumps all. Good luck this year.

    • @tylersnider3479
      @tylersnider3479 7 лет назад

      you too!

    • @wolferine6466
      @wolferine6466 5 лет назад +1

      *Leave no trace.* Simple as that.

  • @brettstock3284
    @brettstock3284 3 года назад

    Burn all your garbage? 2:05

  • @elvisisagoodboy1479
    @elvisisagoodboy1479 3 года назад

    No nuts?

    • @kuiuultralight
      @kuiuultralight  3 года назад +1

      Yes, in later trips, nuts took on a bigger place in the loadout.

  • @parkerdavis6981
    @parkerdavis6981 7 лет назад

    using those gigantic ziplock bags to divide up your daily rations is like the opposite of ultralight philosophy.

  • @masonwynia2632
    @masonwynia2632 7 лет назад +5

    Please do not burn your trash! Pack out what you packed In please.

    • @kidringo1257
      @kidringo1257 6 лет назад

      mason wynia ...dragging out unused food attracts uninvited visitors

    • @agawied2910
      @agawied2910 5 лет назад +1

      kid ringo what? You keep waste in a separate pack inside the same pack you store food in, then put everything in a tree just like you would anyways? There is ZERO excuse to burn your bullshit in the backcountry, TR would roll over in his grave if he knew Americans were doing shit like that.

    • @kalikasurf
      @kalikasurf 5 лет назад

      aGa Wied he’d also be angry that we all dont shoot rhinos..... using roosevelt is just dumb.
      Sometimes food waste items get burned because of the predator problem. I can either save my food waste and shoot a mountain lion or a bear for safety .......or i can burn the waste and bury the very small remains. Go ahead and pick one

    • @bendrixbailey1430
      @bendrixbailey1430 Год назад

      Oh! Oh no! Burning! CO2, or something! Ooo Ooo Oooooo! Gime a break…

  • @lyfhntr6562
    @lyfhntr6562 4 года назад

    So much waste. Make your own dehydrated meals.

  • @kickrjason
    @kickrjason 7 лет назад +5

    I am shocked to hear you are burning plastic, especially in the backcountry. I had to rewind and double check that I heard you correct. With as many times as you cite "research" on calories intake and burn you should devote a little to the downsides to burning petroleum-based bags. I would think that packing out all of that garbage should not be an issue if you are bringing it in. Are you burning all of your mountain house bags too??!!

  • @robbiewhiteduck9595
    @robbiewhiteduck9595 3 года назад

    I like the video, but didn’t like how you sead you burn all your plastics not very good.

  • @miguelperez762
    @miguelperez762 5 лет назад +3

    R.I.P.