Buy Once. Cry Once. Episode 4: Heckler and Koch VP9L, P30L, & USP Expert long slide pistols
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- In depth review of Heckler and Koch Long Slide pistols chambered in 9x19mm parabellum
Models reviewed are H&K VP9L, H&K P30L, H&K USP Expert.
Time stamps for each gun are:
VP9L - 8:09
P30L - 25:41
USP Expert - 41:22
Links in video:
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Lazy Wolf F2 trigger braking during livefire:
• Broken Lazy Wolf F2 tr...
I believe this is the first time I’ve ever heard someone say that Striker mechanisms typically have a better feel than a hammer fired mechanism.
single action always feels better then double actiopn. unless you been using double ffor years or what you trained on
@@c2dhollaThan, not then. Work on your 3rd Grade English.
@@c2dholla Hammer fired doesn't mean double action though. Plenty hammer fired pistols have SAO
Great episode. Bought my first HK in 1986 in Ft Campbell, KY. Paid a fellow GI $250 for a P7 when he had a child and his wife didn't want a gun in the house. He purchased it with a pawn ticket from another GI for $200 who was about to lose it at the pawn shop. I still have that pistol in great condition. Put it away for over 25 years in the 90's. Took it to the range this year and the owner offered me $2K cash for the pistol. Of course I said "No". To this day, I also own a VP9 and a VP9SK. Love all my HKs.
They remind of my tour in Nuremburg, Germany. Erlangen actually.
I'm envious. I've wanted a P7M8 for 10 years and used to balk at the asking price. I wish I would have paid up back then because they just keep climbing in value.
..... This is without a doubt, the most complete and comprehensive Gun review on HK pistols I’ve ever seen... Thank you for all of the valuable information, and putting so much effort into making this video... I can confidently say that just about all the information anyone could ever need about HK and their pistols can be found right here👍
exactly why I'm subbing
I am ashamed of myself. I only have one HK. I am looking for a job.
Get to work! You need these things!
Clicked for HK. Stayed for Collateral reference...
I have the VP9 and the Expert 45 and while I did cry when I bought the expert I don’t regret buying it as it’s in my opinion the best pistol ever
I’m another sick HK addict, and retired from Army and Air Force. Began with a new P7M8 long before Hans Gruber ever heard of one. Back then they were $459. ($499 for an M13). When you say Heckler & Koch GmbH, the GmbH represents a different sort of company than an AG. GmbH is pronounced “Gay em bay ha” in German. Owner of two P7M8s, a stainless USPc 45, a P30, two VP9s, a VP40, a P2000SK in 9mm, 40SW and in 357Sig. I also have the VP9 Match. On the longer side, I also have the MR556A1 Competition Model. What has kept me into H&K is their ambidextrous designs. (I’m a lefty). The only except is the earlier USPs. The only modification that I have done to my HK pistols is to replace the mag release on my P2000SK to a slightly larger one off the HK 45. One very interesting think I only learned recently was that the small laser designator I have mounted on my USPc will also fit on a Picatinny mount! Thanks for your fun, thorough coverage of the fine H&K firm. I find many of your conclusions to be very sound. One of the most thorough on the web! Vielen danke!
I have both of the 9mm and 45 USP Experts. They are hands down the standard to judge other handguns in terms of reliability and durability. True go to war weapons.
Nice. I just put a 9mm version on layaway yesterday.
If you had to choose one?
@@HughGNuts Probably the 45. The mags are often cheaper, and always made of steel. It's a round that's at home being used suppressed or as a 460 Rowland with just a recoil spring change in the USP.
Wow this was the single best HK review I've ever seen bro , especially on the P30L in that configuration. That P30 L version is my Holy grail !! 🥳👍🏾
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching my content.
Ya the p30l is the last one I NEED(YES I SAID NEED😂)
Finally I found my way back to my people, a channel that understands my madness
Love this H&k episode!
Thanks for watching my content!
@@DeFenderCo how do you like the heinie sights in the P30l?
@@reker.a5790 They are my favorite iron sights. I talk about them in depth in the P30L section towards the end of that pistol section.
This was so in-depth that I felt compelled to thank you!
Thank you for watching my content!
This was incredibly well put-together. Thank you!!!
Thanks for the video. I LOVE my P30L.
THE BEST ViDEO EVER man you described everything in detailed i have watched countless videos and no one went into detail like you did and i love Hk guns i just bought my first HK in May of 2021 and I cried when i bought it but i shot it for the first time july 4th and it blew my mind not only was i the envy of everyone but the gun shoots like butter baby. i have a VP9 but i’m investing in an HK p30sk very soon for my everyday carry and you can’t beat that mag that hold 15 rounds i can’t wait i will be broke but i’ll cry on my pillow with my second HK to heal my sorrows
HAhahah! Rad man. I'm glad you bit by the HK bug. I'm a huge fan of these pistols if you couldn't tell. I appreciate you taking the time to watch my content.
Great video, man. Super detailed and you can tell a ton of research went into it.
After 35 years in the firearms industry and LE as a instructor, I can say this is the BEST and most honest review I have seen. You are a very knowledgeable and don’t give yourself credit for the fine job you do.
I am so tired of the so called operator expert reviews. I tell most people to think about your environment you live in now, not the fantasy world. The HK is ideal for EDC as well as any hostile environment.
I'm humbled by your comment. Thanks for watching my channel.
I ended up buying a VP9 3 months ago because of this vid. :) I was leaning towards the P30, but holster options are really limited. But, sure enough, as soon as I was shooting at the range with the VP9, I picked up a rental P30SK to try, and I'm gonna get one as my daily carry.
They truly are a remarkable gun manufacturer.
Thanks for the time you put in on this vid, as it really helped me to make a good decision on my second and soon to be third gun purchase.
I'm happy to hear you're expanding your collection. Hope you got a great deal on it. Now load up on ammo and get training!
@@DeFenderCo Loading up 100 rounds per pay period lol. By the end of the year I should be at about a 1000 round surplus. It's a slog but it's working.
I want the P30. Will be my first HK.
you ever get the p30sk?. Im picking mine up in 9 hours. I cant even sleep im so excited
@@joogullae3456 I did and it's a fantastic summer carry. You should be excited. It's fantastic.
Wow Most Detailed video every made I think Now I just need to buy a an H&K You convinced me Thanks
Unfortunately the VP9 isn't pre $600 gun anymore lol. I was looking at them today and they ranged from $700 to just under $1k.
Thank you for making this video. Appreciate the fact that you purchased this pistol and and accessories yourself. Great review.
I'm glad you liked it! I'm a huge HK guy so this was one of the more fun videos I've made to date; learned a ton about each gun, the process, and even the company's history. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment on my home made content.
I Cary either a P30 sks or a P30S. Ive competed with a P30L. My home gun is a HK 45. HKs are the guns I trust.
Same. Dont ever need to worry about them malfunctioning or anything. Just legendary. Plain and simple.
carry
Good stuff. Quite happy with my HK collection so far. Now I gotta go catch that faucet!
That's what I get for trying to read stuff at a glance! Thanks for watching my content.
Outstanding presentation.
Quality like the pistols ✌️
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Looked at the vp9L today. Found your video. One of the best informational videos I have ever watched. Really appreciated the way you presented the information re the firearm.
Did you buy it? Glad you enjoyed my home made content.
I just ordered mines for $499 with 3mags plus 4 extra mags from HK year end deals. Am I crying, yes! After so many guns purchased, I finally finalized my gun.
Really like the HK episode! I’m a huge fan of the LEM trigger! The P30 and P30sk Brought back my love for HK not too long ago! And forced me to buy a p2000sk (3rd time) but with LEM and night sights it will become my main edc and P30 for when I need a bigger gun. Next on my bucket list is USP compact 9mm and p2000, want both with LEM but would buy USP compact 9mm da/sa I’d like to have both types of them, I’m done with Glocks and other brands and just going to focus on HKs going forward. Thanks for all this information! Great video!
I was on board with you until you said don't worry about carrying an extra magazine. Now, when it comes to HK, sure, you don't NEED a backup mag, but on lower end/high production firearms (Glock, SIG, Beretta, Kimber) you absolutely should have a spare mag JUST IN CASE you have a malfunction and need to throw the first mag away.
EDIT: I also got my VP9 for $400 with a case, all grips and only one mag. I also bought a Holosun EPS and TLR-7A gunlight at the same time for $200 for both; insanely good prices I couldn't walk away from. Oh, and the firearm light and greendot sight were new in box.
In Germany those guns cost 800€ except VP9 long slide which is 1200€ and HK USP long slide 1500 (short slide is 800), Glock, Walther, Beretta APX etc cost also around 800€, while Sig Sauer p226, or Bereta 92FS cost more around 1500€, I'll probably go with HK p30 and or a Glock 17 or 34.
I just started watching this site this morning but decided to watch it later, so as to concentrate and learn more about one of my favorite firearms companies. When I Teach / Train Tactical Emergency Medicine withsome LEs or military types, they like me to carry whatever their department is using, ie Glock / Sig. Two Summers-ago, I used my H&K VP9 that my wife surprised me with for Christmas, in a CCB Handgun - Blade - Combatives - Tactical Medicine Course with Bill Rapier, in Idaho. Bill was one of the SEALS on the Bin Laden Raid. He was excellent. While Bill used his Red Dot - Walther, I used my VP9, fixed Tritium sights. ⚕🇺🇸
Wow! I'm a new left-handed shooter who is sold on the VP9L OR. Throughout all the videos I've seen this is by far the most comprehensive video out there on the subject. I'm a CA resident so I will have to buy mine in a PPT, due it being off roster, but when I hear how much people buy to upgrade their guns (esp Glocks) after purchase it's well-worth the additional cost to know I'll be satisfied and am getting a quality product.
You won't be disappointed with any current HK pistol offering. they are really well made.
Great video, I really enjoyed the class.
Thanks for taking the time to watch my home made content.
Well done video, thank you for all the time and effort you put into making this. One gun I regret selling was my USP Compact chambered in .357 Sig…
I appreciate you watching my content. I think the universal rule of gun ownership is never sell, only buy.
Wish I had one.
You’re draw stroke is clean AF. Very simple and efficient… well done sir
Thank you. I feel it needs tons of work still from concealment.
Great video. Literally one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time.
WOW! Thanks for taking the time to watch my content.
My dream gun out of the 24 ish guns I’ve owned has always been the p30l since before even John Wick haha. Finally got it NEW for $650 I think they priced it wrong because every other Hk was over 1 grand unless it was an sk the. They were $800 I’ve had 4 hks and had I not needed to sell most of my collection… I’d still have some dope and 1911s sig and Hk but alas I’m starting anew and the p30ls new for that price? Good start!
That’s a great price. I paid $ 715 back on 2/2020 for my P30L LEM. No regrets though.
Thank you for your time you spent on this video it clearly shows that you spent a lot of time putting this together thank you for that, the continent was great. I have a P30SK and the VP9, I really enjoy shooting the both of them.
Thanks for taking the time to watch it! Makes it worth it when people enjoy the content.
@@DeFenderCo got 2 p30s that are v3....should I get one with LEM trigger? or is it gonna throw me off in my training? I like v3 bc the sa/da makes it good for cc (to avoid accidental discharges).
@@wcsdiaries That's exactly what the LEM trigger is designed for. A very long deliberate first shot, and then SA follow ups from there forward. I'd rent one before committing to a purchase though.
@@DeFenderCo is the LEM trigger as long as the v3? I noticed even after the first shot the trigger has to travel very far
Awesome video. Just bought a P30 and this video was exactly what I needed! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Fantastic! Glad I could help. If you want to turn it into a john wick clone, I have compensators in stock again at wickedcompensator.com
My EDC
Gun: H&K VP9
(LE edition in Urban Grey )
Lite/ Laser: Viridian C5L
Holster: Alien Gear 3.5 Cloak Tuck IWD made for the C5L set up
EDC Belt: Kore Essentles
Gun $550 (new)
C5L $225
Holster $50
Belt $65
$890 ready to rock & roll
Good to know about that lazy wolf trigger for the VP9. I was looking into them just to have a flat face trigger.
Late to the party but I installed my Lazy Wolf a year ago and have shot thousands of rounds through it with no issues. Love that trigger.
I had thousands of rounds through mine too until that one day when it broke.
@@DeFenderCo would you recommend the Grey Guns trigger then over the Lazy Wolf?
First of all no knock to guys that get sponsored, i hope if you get an opportunity and you are ok with it you do, i appreciate that you are relatable in hardworking money gets your toys like me. SECOND i appreciate without getting paid you have taken your time to help me with my time in deciding and research
I'm happy to do it. I'm trying to give back to the community that has been so supportive of my journey by helping others through theirs. Thanks for watching my channel.
@@DeFenderCo you have a new sub
Great video, especially for HK nerds.
Best review I’ve seen! Bravo. Great job
Use to have a P30 V3. Loved it. Foolishly sold it. Yeah I know. Watched this today and am gonna grab a P30 and do the LEM and short reset. Great video.
Welcome to the #HkMasterRace
The only time it's okay to be a racist.
I have 2 out 3. HKs are straight quality.
great instructional video have a 30L and have put 12000 rounds to it Cleaned twice sweet tool keep it up dude
Can't get any better than this for info, thank you.
Thanks for watching my home made content. I appreciate the feedback.
Wright armory does all my work! Love em
They are about to mill my USP full size for the iDot system with an RMRcc. I will make a video about the process.
@@DeFenderCo looking forward to it
Love my VP70Z, VP9 SK, never had an issue in 50 years. Love my CZ metal pistols. Love vz52 7.62x25TT
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Excellent sober mature presentation 👍
Let me tell you a bit about the cost of an HK in South Africa:
HK no longer import into SA, but you can get them via custom important with license.
Convert to USD and you would be paying around 2000USD with a few extra magazines.
Cost: you need to complete a course on the basic firearms act and one on self loading pistols (you would do the same for the other 3 firearm classes), cost of applying for a license.
Don't forget about spare parts as buckups, a safe to store your firearm as one is mandatory, ammunition and the cost to renew your firearm license every 5-10 years depending on what section you apply for.
Its all complicated but worth it. You can get any gun you want in any configuration and ammo capacity all over the country, just not full auto.
Feels like when I wanted to get a genuine 416 and paid through the nose for it. Glad you're able to get the products you want but the mark up has got to make you cry more than once.
@DeFenderCo yes, the mark-up is mad. The best affordable gun I can get that's not Glock with great support is Canik and CZ (among some others as well, like S&W, Sig Sauer, etc). But I'll always have a soft spot for HK
An excellent informative presentation. In most of Germany, Hoch is pronoused with an "aw" sound, while the ch is pronounced in a manner which sounds like a soft cough or throat clearance, though there are regional variations.
Not in the German I learned. Besides… most “foreign” arms makers names take on a new pronunciation in the U.S. “CZ”, anyone?
I recently got a USP Expert, I don’t usually see USPs in the store so I had to fold and blow my stack of cash. I was in the market for a full-size 9mm and was close to just doing a glock. My FN 5.7 isn’t really affordable to feed as of late with the lack of ammo making it double in price despite 3-5 new guns emerging and running the sweet little round.
My USP is glorious and my only regret was I didn’t get it a decade ago.
Great video, I’ll be subbing and checking out your other videos 🍻
Nice. I just put a 9mm USP expert on layaway yesterday. They had a used standard USP for $600 cheaper in the shop. But something about the expert made me say "fudge it".
Great content and great style of delivery!
Got into HKs in 2001 yhis video is an excellent explanation of a series of pistols that is sometimes overwhelming(German) in their idiosyncrasies.
Well done.
Shoot, man. I would have stuck with the $560 purchase price of your VP9, plus the Heinie sights... Good to go!!!!
Anyway to each his own, I understand it's your hobby and you have some nice guns set up.
I'm a true Glockaholic, but... my H&KS are my favorites. Can't help it.
Definitely getting a VP9L and a USP45 V1 already got a P30S V3 9mm 17rd and a P30sk V3 9mm for EDC
A fucking hour of hk stuff. Ok I’m in
I guess I had lots to say on the matter. If you like Knight's Armament check out BOCO ep 1. another hour of KAC.
@@DeFenderCo oh that’s great. Nothing like a good hour of kac.
This is what I needed to hear.
Great video! I have a USP9 and a USP9c. Deciding between an expert or a Mark 23. But in the meantime I just like watching videos of how good a decision I made 🤣
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Get both! They are excellent
@@Jkan2001 timeline update : I did!
@@stevo5459 good lord, both? Small fortune there but totally worth it. I have a 9mm Expert and it’s easily my favorite pistol
great video man,,, i love how transparent you were and honest about everything up front.... i wish more people were,,,,,, I'm a huge fan of H&K and have been for years....
I'm humbled by the community here. I'm just glad people are enjoying my homemade non-sponsored content.
@@DeFenderCo just keep on doing what you are doing.... I make and post videos (on different topics) I keep it real because that is the best way..... I will be watching your videos for sure...
Great review great detail. I wish I got the VP9L but I still love my VP9
You can always get the long slide kit if you absolutely must have the extra length.
I think the kit is an improvement, as it comes with suppressor height sights.
@@donrichter3523 Mine didn't. Mine came with competition sights; blank rear and fiber optic red front sight.
Great Video! I have a v3 p30sk for EDC and an Olive Green Vp9 with fde cerekote slide, for home defense/range drills.
Love them both for what I use them for.
I'm Seriously looking at a long slide optic cut for my Vp9.
Again Great Video!
Beautiful collection
Lots of great information. Thank you.
Subbed for H&k content
The division gear in the back made me subscribe. Good info made me stay
Excellent, very thorough video! You certainly know your stuff. The V4 CH (V4.1) LEM is worthy of mention. Friendly recommendation: Don't release the slide *at full velocity* without anything entering the chamber. It causes unnecessary stress and premature wear. Wilson Combat has a good video discussing this.
Premature wear? On a HK?
I know I'm old when yo homie is that my briefcase wasn't even thought of yet. I knew about the USP since reading green team in 96 damn I'm old 🤣
What you say is very true.. me and my dad (RIP) both went and plopped down the money for our own HK USPcompact 357sigs however the availability Was so far out for that the dealer offered us different pistols he took the 40 I took the 45 2 tone version perit I still have his 40 but have long since traded my 45. One of the considering factors was indeed the horrible trigger pull. My thinking was if I ever got into any altercation and injured my hand there was no way to pull that trigger double action
Nice to see ya back! Loved the video as always
Thanks for being patient, and glad you enjoyed the content.
EXCELLENT HK tutorial . I switched from a sig P 320 because I heard all the horror stories about it .
You made a wise decision.
Great video. Another unashamed HK fanboy here. I have to say it though, the condition of that range at 0.13 and 0.50 makes me sad.
Good news! We organized a clean up and it looks so much better. I felt the same way and made a rant about it in my Buy Once Cry Once episode 3 about people who trash public land.
Thinking about the VP9 match. Optics ready and nice trigger. For competition I will stick with CZ 😃
If you don't already you really need to drive down the road to the SAR show from time to time. I'm in WA but go to it. Family in cave creek helps lol. Lots of great deals at the shows.
I wish the P30L was a 5 inch gun w/ the o-ring also.
The threaded barrel makes it a 5" barrel, but yeah I feel you on that. Would make it the top tier gun instantly.
I am looking for getting my 1st HK, looking at grabbing P30L V3
G3 is the name that the USA gave the rifle , original name is HK-93
Ah, face diapers outside in the middle of freakin nowhere. I love my Vp9L OR, btw. Great video!
Well done sir. Very informative. Love my VP9
Thanks for watching!
Sensational review
Loved this video. HK Life!
It's the only way to live!
Just ordered the vp9 match slide kit with the 200 $ rebate. . 350 bucks 🎉
I like my P30L. I just wish it had the same trigger as my Sig Legion p226.
Look into Gray Guns. They have excellent upgrades for the P30L trigger.
Well done video, thank you
Personally I like you talk and you did great homework,thank you for sharing! I will follow up, you are the best!
I'm humbled. I really appreciate you watching my channel.
My VP9 is Gray paddle frame. My second choice would be Green.
Amazing review thanks, will check out your other videos.
Thanks man. I appreciate you watching my home made content.
Why were you wearing a mask outside?
I wish HK and Walther made their other long slides WITHOUT the slide cut outs…. Just use a lighter recoil spring!
I’m just paranoid about debris getting into the gun.
Ok this is good. He knows what he's talking about.
I am not an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express while recording this video...
Excellent video. I love the USP but never could make that stupid “ergonomic” grip work for me. I have had a couple of P30s but sold them in frustration.
The most expensive pool you've ever swam in? Lol 2011 style platform puts that to shame. That said the HK pull is still very strong and a LTT P30L LEM optic ready is on my next grab list. Great video man. Thanks for sharing those premium pieces.
I mean, buying an out of the box HK is cheap compared to building a 416, a PSG-1, or a Tommy Built G36.
@DeFenderCo you got that right!! A true psg1 is probably tippy top of my grail list. Roller delayed never goes out of style.
A lot of effort put into that video. Very much appreciated. I have a new VP9L with a HOLOSUN HE508T-GR Green Dot in Circle and love it.
Love the Holosun line up. How do you like the green over the red?
How's the reliability of the long?
Awesome video!!!
I guess I'm an ENIGMA! Love HK mag release!
Wow 🤩what a tutorial u nailed it all
Thanks for sticking it out for the full hour.
like my vp9 tactical better than my p30l. but i love my sp5k more than both of them.