The WORST Consumer Unit I've Ever Seen!
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- The WORST Consumer Unit I've Ever Seen!
Spaghetti Junction on steroids! It's this episode of Artisan Electrics the dodgy electrics and electrical mysteries just keep on unfolding. We already knew what horrors lay in the consumer unit, but some other truly shocking electrics were yet to be discovered. Join us for this ever-growing list of chaotic and dangerous electrical finds.
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I'd imagine working with Jordan as your boss would be cool. I've worked with people before who would shout at you for not knowing the correct cable size or amps you never learn with people like that. Where as Jordan is very supportive and spends alot of time with his engineers. Class.
So much macho toxicity within the trades, and people wonder why no one wants to work in it
As Lewis T. says; it seems the neutral is fused. Far more noteworthy than fussing over excess cabling in the C.U.
If I'm doing a board change I'm very grateful that the previous electrician didn't shorten the cables just to make it look neat.
You can make it look neat without shortening the cables but yep . Take longer cables over neat if the guy can't do both
the way houses are installed are so weird and complicated... the way we doing electric installations in the netherlands are much more simple and easyer for maintenance. No rings, just 16 amps breakers which disconnect phase and neutral. Normally every room has a junctionbox in the ceiling were incoming power is split to sockets, lightswitches and other lightpoints. Wiring is standard through pvc pipes so mostly wires are replaceble too.
I few years back I (stupidly) took a job at a fertiliser plant on immingham docks as a maintenance spark, and all the electrics looked like that, and it was impossible to get any time to even begin to even investigate anything, let alone sort anything out due to them not wanting any machine down time.
Thank god I don't work there any more, how it hasn't gone up in flames is beyond me.
Brilliant to see a seasoned spark taking the time to help and teach someone properly and with patience like this. Absolutely beautiful. Without help like this, nobody would ever learn.
Wago should make 60amp inline connectors for showers, seems like every spark finds the same with showers
did you notice the fused Neutral on the old metal switch?
Good point regarding the adapter plug/socket.
I love the Bosch Go 2 screwdriver, always use it, except on a chrome accessory.
You're correct that you shouldn't repair faults on an EICR, my tutor taught me this on my recent 2391 course, you should only have your inspectors hat on(but if it's a simple fault we will do it there and then, same as everyone else!)
Well done Luke.
Good video!!!
Argh!!! Two videos in a row where Jordan had said, "Amps of power". This triggers the science teacher in me massively 😂
18:50 Re. finding a break, if you know there is nothing connected to the circuit, measuring capacitance to earth of each side can give an indication of distance to the break - lower capacitance = shorter distance.
I'd just disconnect the lives one at a time from the MCB and power up to show up whats on each side, for extra points do some loop impedance tests between L-N each side to find out which is the furthest point on each side of the break (L-N rather than L-E as the high current test is much more accurate than the non-trip range , and for greater accuracy you could take the matching N out of the board as well and not have issues with parallel pats etc). If you then have a leg between two sockets in different parts of the building thats open that appears to have nothing in between, the capactance idea could be useful, but maybe not as useful as one of the cable toners that the telecom guys use :)
The only time I put limitation down for sockets behind appliances is if the flooring is of the soft cushion vinyl type. Do NOT want to risk tearing!
at 7:02 i love how Luke was a Naughty boy as he stood on the top of the step ladder before the boss man did but only points it out to the camera man haha classic. i love the vids keep up the good work guys you do great work
Cory will be very happy you're having to hire 2 electricians to replace him.
lol
i thought the exact same
Just double the daily rate, no need to find other work.
Unless someone else is moving on, maybe!
As a long retired electrician brought up on 11th edition, I almost fell about laughing when I saw the BILL Double pole switch fuse being used in such a manner. This component should have been in a museum or a skip many years ago.
11th Edition- 1939, before my time 😊
if I had to choose between being an electrician and a plumber, I would defo choose being a plumber. As it's a lot harder to drown yourself when working in someone's house.
ya and they make more and stick together unlike us cut throats.....lol
Watching these makes me appreciate our North American style panelboards. So much more room to work with. Also, the electrical code requires a 30" working width and 36" of clear space in front of the panelboard (more space required for higher voltages). Maximum circuit breaker handle height is 6'-7". These rules are to provide a safe working environment for the electrician. Different country, so different rules for sure.
most of the European countries have similar regulations regarding placement and accessibility of the boards. We've also got regulations about keeping all the electrics together, so you cannot have the main breaker in one place and the rest of breakers in a different place. But the UK apparently have some archaic regulations that are completely out of touch, especially since things like 35 A circuits in an ordinary house without any kind of RCD is completely bonkers. In the rest Europe we split the circuits if you need that much power and it's extremely rare to see an installation that allows more than 60 A per phase
Good old double pole fusing, believe that went out in the 1950s/60s?
That’s too many cables to handle! Just bin the box 😂
Haha at 28:02 Luke did you unplug the fridge for IR on the ring and Luke was like yeah ( the way he sounded he definitely didn’t )
What I don't understand is why on step ladders they have usable steps above the last step you should use? Above the last 'proper' step they should put thin metal bracers that won't take any weight, then they wouldn't need to have stickers saying not to step higher. Eejits.
the reason I expect is that the steps provide structural rigidity to the steps and a unit and a metal bracer would not. the small ladder shown is a waste of time if you can only use the bottom step.
1 like gives Jordan an extra ladder step to climb on... (Serious note be safe on ladders everyone!)
Read HSE guidance on working height, and your number of points of contact on the steps/ladders.
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I worked as a telecom engineer out in the field for 25yrs😁. Loved the job😁, Just the BS got to me 😏, oh 😠& idiot managers😠😠. Anyways🤔, ladders are safe when used correctly, & using the right ladders/steps for the task in hand, also common sence 😁🇬🇧🇬🇧
Another great video.... your channel was a massive help when going through my apprenticeship! Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the comment
I don’t live in the EMEA region, I hate everything about electricity and plumbing, however, a big fan and subscriber of your channel. Hopefully I don’t speak for all, but what I want is a payoff video.
You always showcase all of the old dangerous consumer units, spaghetti and crappy work, and incoming 50 year old power.
What I want is a complete video from start to finish showcasing old work and new replacement work from Artisan!
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We can’t often do that in one video so you usually see the initial inspection and then we come back and fix it another day and do a separate video on that but maybe we can try and do a montage of the whole lot before and after one time
That shower connection,or lack of connection,is just downright piss poor,I can't believe someone would be so negligent,with a device that draws as much current as a shower, it's rubbish like that,that will burn someone's house down & land you in the Coroner's Court to answer some pretty serious questions,SMH😡🤬
Very nice teaching and guidance. Instead of just telling which you see a lot, you question their answer. 👌👌
I had a dodgy wall socket in the bedroom that would fail/work if you lightly touched it. Eventually I decided I'd replace it, assuming a bad switch or socket. I undid the mounting screws and the entire thing fell off. Not one of the wires was screwed in. Not just loose, not screwed in at all. The grub screws were all the way out as far as they could go. The only thing making it work was the way the thick copper wiring was splayed outwards, just its spring pressure holding against the wiring holes. It'd been like that for 20 years (since the house was built). To make matters worse, the wall socket wiring also lead to a wall mounted 500 watt bar radiator in the same room, and another one in the bathroom (one thing daisy chained to another). Professional installation, my foot!
Ok DIY Dave
@@evanfpv I'm an electronics engineer, not an electrician. I wouldn't lay cables around a house, but replacing a socket is child's play. I couldn't possibly make it any worse than it already was.
@@CameraTimDotCom So you arent a qualified electrician?! Your comment means nothing to approved electricians like me who went to college for 4 years then passed there testing and Inspection. Cheers
@@adamsharp201 Really, which bit don't you like?
That I can criticise the electrician involved in building the house in 1965 for doing a shite job? Which they did. I could list a few other things, too:
The fuseboard that looks like an 11 year old did it, with a tangle of wires all around each other. The electrician who lost the screws holding the fuseboard in place and didn't replace them. The electrician who routed wires behind the hinging bar behind the fuseboard so they're pinched against the metal cabinet. All the powerpoints for the entire house on one 16 amp fuse. All the lights for the entire house on one 8 amp fuse.
Each only having just one lead out each from the fuseboard, daisy chaining around the house, so you couldn't possibly separate parts of the house onto individual breakers without removing most of the roof and floorboards. A foot of several joined lighting wiring twisted around themselves in a corkscrew above a light socket that's also the junction point for many more light fittings (it rubbed through some of its insulation and started to smoke). Lighting cable that went over (instead of under) a roof rafter and was squashed between the wooden beam and the corrugated iron roof (which was later pierced by the contractors installing solar panels who put a bolt right through the middle of it, and never bothered to check all the power was working before they left).
That as an electronics engineer and diagnostic fault finding serviceman of over 30 years I'm more than capable of doing the childishly simple job of fitting a wall socket without fouling it up in the most basic way (not screwing in the wires)?
(Something that's much easier than fitting a plug on an appliance cable, actually. Solid copper is easier to get into a wall plate screw terminals than stranded wire into a plug, and has far more space to work in than a plug.)
I work on equipment far more complex than house wiring, and I don't make the balls-up of it that the so-called electrician did wiring our house up. I can't even imagine an apprentice electrician doing the job as bad as our house's wiring.
I suspect a lot of DIY electrical work (and replacing a socket isn't even notifiable) stems from industry professionals doing bad work. Some sparkies are meticulous and some are very rough and ready in their approach. Recently found several sockets and several metal lights in a relative's house (cables in conduit) had not been earthed because the installer (and I still have the paperwork) apparently forgot to pull an earth cable to connect back to the main earth terminal. There was some green/yellow wire but not all the way.
Obviously some would say I should leave it to the professionals. Sadly, some professionals aren't worthy of the name. The good ones are always very busy and don't need to rely on job protectionism to get business, so it's not like if I pull a few earth cables I'm putting anyond out of a job.
Also looks like there was fuses in both Line AND in Neutral inside that isolator !?
also noticed that the neutral was fused common practice back then
A later electrician may have put a bit of thick wire on the neutral side to avoid having a fused neutral.
If the cable run is not visible, then de-rate the conductor to the worst case scenario given in the table.
Just love these informative but entertaining videos!
Wow can’t believe how many issues/dangers you find on an eicr, very scary and makes me think about the electrics in my house and if I need to get one done. I’ll bet so many people put this off thinking oh it’s working fine so don’t need one. 😳
Hey you guys are such an inspiration for the sparky community, so much so that we started our own channel, we're in Australia though, keep it up!
with open circuit rings, i tend to short the faulty wire to another at the CU, then go round with the megger and find at what point that link disappears, that gives you a decent indication of where the break might be
Crazy how you guys have your breaker panels so high you need a ladder to access them. How about lowering them to chest height. That would make life easier.
Having an electrical appliance connected to a circuit with massive current delivery capabilities in my shower is not something I want. Good thing you guys have RCDs in the UK, be the very thought of it still make me feel uneasy.
great video guys . good to see Luke doing so well
Thanks!
Having only ever seen ring circuits in electrical substations here in Australia it always suprises me to see it commonly used in the UK. I guess that is why you need to have a separate fuse for pretty much everything.
Trying to get away from it now became common practice after the war to save copper but more and more going back to radial circuits now
Can't run conductors in parallel under 4mm and have to protect the individual cable not the combined rating, so not really any point in rings.
That is the main reason for the fused plug, yes. Rings are fine until someone fiddles with them, which is all too common - a broken ring is very dangerous, as is the wiring of spurs onto spurs without a fused connection unit.
@@benjones1180 radial mains in nearly all houses here, but not in PRC builds cus the walls in those are pure concrete. PRC builds have spurs
Fused plugs !
Interesting as always! Also, I think there should be a (legal) movement in actually identifying the installer and making an official report mandatory since it's gonna come down to some serious house fire one day.. probably not the only install that individual has done init haha
the installer might have done a really neat job of it, and then the cowboys come along over the years with maintainance and adding circuits in and messing it all up, especially DIYers. its hard to put the installers name to stuff like this unless its a new install...
@@jamieisbadiof6106 true, but that then has to be investigated. Property owner knows best who’s been in and out to perform changes to the installation. Thereby, but of course also can be tampered with, you can apply seal stickers on the appliance as I saw Jordan do one on a new CU to have at least some sort of indication someone’s been in after you
@@wolflouis_official We do issue certs, either EICs (Electrical Installation Certificates (complete with Circuit Information and Test Results) on new circuit installations and MEIWC Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate,so the householder should keep these with the house files for future reference, and pass them on when selling a house!
That consumer unit = what I call a Volts Nest!
Replace that old MEM fused neutral/live ( code 2 ) isolator with new double pole isolator with over current & surge protection .
Some steps and ladders training on the to do list then. 🤣
This video is so good, could be used as a great training aid...
22:07 - I would recommend Cory.... Oh wait 😂😀
I’ve got smallest house in the street but the biggest switchboard. As an inspector I hate over crowding.
I thought i would see Corey in this episode disinterested must stop watching 😂
Another cracking Video Jordan!! Hope you noted down on the EICR the neutral fusing in that old cast iron box as a C2 observation. I must admit i did cringe a bit when i saw you balancing on top of those steps 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Love to work in your company but i’m not sure you have space for Supervisory/QS level. Time to move away from the tools now after over 33 years of it although the testing and reporting still interests me. Good luck with the search and look forward to some Solar content in the near future. 👌🏻🤘🏻
Absolutely, was amazed that Jordan didn't comment on neutral fusing!
Call out the boss on safety? Too bloody right, lives have been lost on the track, in the air and in hospitals where youngsters have been afraid to challenge the gaffer who’s done the job for 30 years.
My landlord wanted to install a shower unit for me a few years ago but I turned it down flat. I detest the damned things. They are a colossal waste of water,and they are run too long at full heat. No wonder the wires melt! They must be installed by someone who knows what he's doing. Water and electricity are a very dangerous combination,no matter where.
Was that your best Welsh Accent? Shocking! Brilliant Informative Vid Guys, Keep it up!
I’m just learning about IR, I get the removal of devices and usb sockets. I am I correct with fused spurs to just make sure they are turned off the switch and you don’t have to take it off and disconnect the load?
You would also need bigger switches & sockets with deeper boxes to take 10 square. Its just not practical.
10mm twin and earth in a down lighter haha. Good luck with that termination 😂
That shower connector reminded me of the isolator/shutoff switch for one of my student digs. The switch one day just started smouldering and smoking and filled the hallway with acrid smoke. Landlord put a new switch on himself, despite not being an electrician...
Not to mention that this house had 4 (FOUR) electric showers on a single 100A phase main. You can do the maths...
Hi Jordan, you were also quoted recently in an article in the IET engineering and technology magazine incase you diddnt know. You know you have made it when you appear in a professional magazine 👍
Great job, that board looked like it had just come out of an Italian restaurant 🍝
Interesting, entertaining and disturbing, since nothing was staged for the camera. It made me think about what I have in my home. The changes have been few since we moved in. The showers are 24 volts, transformer-isolated pump only, low-power units.
Looks like fairly typical general builder (i.e. cheap/cowboy) electrical work, particularly the sockets which have been plastered and painted over and never worked with neatly (that's a personal gripe of mine, including door furniture). Cables falling out of sockets appears to be a common issue with these kind of situations too. Can't count the number of sockets that I've fixed just by screwing the cables into the terminals properly.
Here's a question, we have Torque settings for the connections in CUs and on MCBs and RCBOs etc, but are there any Torque settings for Sockets and Showers and CCUs etc....?
🤔 not sure why Luke’s pointing out Jordan not using the steps correctly? when he’d just done the same thing !
1:06 My old flat had a unit like that up near the ceiling above the stairway. Why have it so high up and inaccessible?
If I weren't 110 miles away, I'd be applying straight away lol
As a Canadian, seeing a circuit mounted inside a shower is... Interesting. No space for a hot water heater? No problem! Just put a heavy-gauge circuit with enough juice to make real-time high-flow rate piping hot water right at the shower head.
Luke is doing a great job!
We use the Altrex TDO ladders in the Netherlands. The have a safety bar you can fold in and out when you want to stand on top of the ladder.
Here's a tip for shower pull cords. Get the round type ones, last far longer and don't melt as often. If it's a new install use the mount of the new pull cord , on a solid grounds mark your cable entry holes and drill out. Bring your feed and switch wire cables through the holes as they will terminate into the terminals.
Hi guys. In regards to the reporting side of the EICR for all issues uncovered, are you just adding them in observations part of easycert software and photos attached. Or do you write out a separate report entirely.
Yup this is bad....had to redo a couple of them here in South Africa! Would love to someday work in the UK!
Please don’t immigration is destroying the uk as it is there’s so many Eastern Europeans sparking right not ( most have fake certificates )
That does seem pretty bad for a consumer panel. I just started as an industrial electrician in a large factory. Imagine a panel 10x that size with wires going everywhere. Prints will be missing or just plain wrong. Part of the job is just finding where everything goes. It is a skill to be sure.
You found one of my old jobs it was a right " b " to get the lid on !
Lol
It’s Great you asking, Ruben and Luke questions and getting them to answer and explaining , what they know and don’t know Jordan,, & By the way where is Lee ⚡️👊
Imagine doing an EICR and seeing limitation…. Steps not tall enough 😂
How does that adapter overload socket when it has 13amp bs1362 fuse in it fuse should blow first
The thing that amuses me about that sticker [on ladders the type] is that it's there purely for lip-service, If they *really* didn't want you to go above it then a sheet of metal or similar above the step would be the only way to stop it - think how thry stop scaffold ladders being used by bolting a board over the style and rungs.
Watching your videos makes me want to be an electrician. Dabbled with it but not legitimately 🤣
The washing machine and the dishwasher will have their rating set to cover their maximum use. I.e. 90 degree wash on the washer and the same with the dish washer. Very unlikely both will run maximum at the same time. Its like the allowance for use on cable calculation. Even so those adapters usually have their own fuse on board. Difficult to see in the video as it gets blurred. If it does it now becomes a fused spur, so no issue there.
10 mm² section wires are €4.80 per meter for 3 wires here in France.
1.5 mm² is €0.54, also for 3 wires, 9 times cheaper. It's the minimum section we can use, I use it only for lighting, although we can theoretically use it also for outlets in specific 16A circuits, but I don't bother and wire all outlets on 2.5 mm² and 20 A because we never know what contraption will be eventually or occasionally plugged into what outlet...
We actually don't use 10 mm² wires, which work for 40 A when most houses are rigged for 32A. The only 2 exceptions I know are for 40A electric car fast chargers and large electric heating floors (>7.5KW). Maybe for internal control panel wiring too.
The more I see these cramped 1-row British electric panels,, the more I appreciate the multi-row French ones... 😄
I've never heard of a heated shower before... I don't know if this is common in England, or if it's just something I've never heard of. I live in the US, and my shower is heated by the water heater.
whats that big grey thing u uise to test the current called?
In a new installation are circuit rings still standard in UK ? I have to mention that i am not from UK but interested in electrics...
I came across the same mess in the consumer unit after we had an electrician rewire an extension at work. I said "You are not leaving like that are you". He just said "It complies". I reported it to my boss, she said "He knows what he is doing". THIS is why cowboys get away with doing a job like this, People having blind faith in the 'Professionals' and do not dare question there work.
When I was an apprentice I installed a Bill switch just like that but with out the rust in my bedroom as the light switch. I was like Dr Frankenstein. All my mates were impressed.
There's been quite a few comments about what heat is being generated by the mass of wires in the consumer unit, I have a thermal camera for plumbing work but it can be used of course for electrical work. It would be interesting to see if there is really a difference between a neat board and a overflowing board like that one.
I would love to know that too... I do have a tiny camera on a long probe (Doctor-style) that I would have used to check for insulation material in that roof cavity at 09:17 where the cables went but I don't have a thermal camera. :-(
On that old high metal fuse box, were there 2 fuses? one for Live and one for Neutral? Wasn't fused neutral banned about 50 years ago?
You know why they were banned by any chance?
@@jayc1140 I think they were banned in the 1950's, and have to be removed if seen from the mid 2010's.
They were banned as if the neutral fuse fails, it will look like the power has failed, but all components will still be at 230v with reference to ground. Any investigation could lead to a shock/death.
@@andrewwright1200 ah okay thanks mate. I work for a meter company and know we can’t work on them so always wondered why that was
Sadly that CU is no surprise to me. And there’s usually no money to clean it up in domestic work.
Mine is prob worse tbh - consumer unit is prob 80 yrs old - ivory fuses etc. Thanks for the walkthrough /tips - I’ll put it on the list of things to do
The house I bought 2 years ago has a board that makes this one look neat.
In the US each has a designated line. Same goes for dishwasher and frig.. lets not forget ac wall units.
16:00 Do double adapters not have fuses in the UK? I thought that was a quintessential feature of the British plug design.
Great work! You found the wire got burned. I think Yellow wires should be connected to the water pipe. Have you already replaced the new panel instead of the old panel? Thumbs up! Cheers!
Not sure about having the electrical in the shower, to begin with, that dodgy job just worries me more, glad you know what you're doing and I'm sure that customer is too.
At 1:14, is that a loose connection above the leftmost breaker on the red cable coming up from the bottom left?
Just because it looks a mess doesn't make it unsafe, I've seen much worse and it passed every test
You should test ring at board as you have to check at each socket when you do r1+rn and r1 + r2 test otherwise test is not completed correctly and you cannot guarantee ring continuity when you reconnect socket
It will give you good idea of the state of circuit but not correctly perform to niceic standards
But they are happy if you tick box’s and leave in dodgy condition
1) I don't expect the adaptor to burst into flames below the non-fusing current of a 13-amp fuse (and 16 amps is well below that), at least not if it's properly made. The way it hangs off the socket does look dodgy though.
2) Unless the plug was old enough to have solid brass pins (unsleeved) I can't really see how a damp card could cause any issues. Efixxx recently showed a picture of a charred one though, overheated plug in a dodgy socket.
3) Why would you put the connection from the socket circuit to the light down as a limitation rather than "further investigation"?
Money talks mate
2 does prevent the socket being fully inserted though. Which MIGHT not allow so good a connection. They shouldn't sell goods with those paper cards fitted if the plug's already fitted if you're supposed to remove before use. IMO.
@@johnbull5394 True, although I wonder how much of a difference that piece of card makes. In Schuko countries people use child-proof shutters fixed into the sockets with double-sided sticky tape, shutters that are much thicker than those cards, and I haven't heard of any fires caused by these, even though they don't conform to the regs and I've replaced dozens of them with proper shuttered sockets.
@@Ragnar8504 As you say, probably too thin to make any difference . But it's probably the logic behind making an issue of it.
@17:40 Why are slotted machine screws always used in electrical switch plates? is there a specific reason for this, why wouldn't they phase out to an easier crosshead machine screw instead?
Yep... heven't learned any high voltage stuff since highschool... definitely would consider it if I ever get tired of web development...
I work in ex Local Authority buildings. By those standards that's a neat board. Don't get me wrong, it's not ideal - but it seems very common in my environment. The main issue it poses for me is making any kind of testing borderline impossible. Trying to dig out conductors from an RCBO in a packed out 3 phase board to do some end to ends is impossible.
There is a fuse in the 2 way connector block you showed with the drier and washer? I assume it’s 13a therefore no fire risk?
I like what you've done here. You don't have to know everything, just make sure you know your resources in order to find out. Things change and what you know might have as well.
This board is nothing,
I have seen worse 2:04 installation carried out by an inspector, I don't know haw to add photos here but I can tell you it's hot stuff
at 1:52 what would the BS number tell you that B6 doesnt? im an electrician for automation from germany so could very well be missing something since house installs are not my bread and butter.
I agree re dishwasher and washing machine splitter - would put in a double socket asap, but realistically both appliances are unlikely to draw their maximum current for long or at the same time as eachother (ie apply diversity). My kettle is 3000kw but has a 0.75mm2 flex. Would you C3 or C2 that?
One thing I couldn't see in the video was whether the 2-way adapter was FUSED or not. Best practice says that you should only use fused adapters as they only plug into one socket - hence fusing the load at 13A max.
@@herrtomas6729 usually the two-way ones aren't fused (the one used wasn't fused) but three-ways are. Doesn't make sense really! It comes down to user common sense.
In my previous employment, annual PAT testers were told to fail and withdraw all non fused adapters that users had sneaked in from home…
@@herrtomas6729 but if they meet BS1363 they are approved for use in home or workplace. I'm not saying they're always a good idea but BS1363 is the agreed standard. I use one to plug in two desk lamps - that shouldn't fail a PAT but if it was two kettles it should.
Agreed, but if users’ common sense (or understanding) cannot be trusted…..
Therefore this local policy was adopted. (As well as the one which prohibited the use of untested personal equipment on the business supply… multiple fan heaters in winter, toasters in places they shouldn’t be - once had a trapped slice in unattended toaster set off fire alarm and cause factory evacuation!)
3 points of contact for safety if you are climbing a ladder :)
i know the ring-circuit is a cost-saving soulution from back in the days.
its dangerous and should be split into radials And downsize the breakers.