Hey Moose, I'm predominantly an e-waste guy and I have to remove 5 billion screws a day. I had a heavy 18v drill, but decided screw it, my arthritic wrist is killing me and went out and bought a little 12v Dewalt impact driver. It's 2 pounds with the battery attached and runs at about 2500 rpms(variable trigger) with twice the torque of a drill. Impact drivers don't cam out and round out the screws like drills do either. I paid $120 for my combo which is pricey(Makita's is a little cheaper), but it has changed my world lol. I can remove 100 screws in half the time with no wrist fatigue. Anyway, seeing those motherboards reminded me of all the screws scrappers have to contend with and thought I'd share.
Please folks Don't toss those batts in garbage. Take them to Home depot /Lowes and drop them in the recycle bin located near the tool crib sect. The plastics are VERY high grade find a place that takes them too. Recycle responsibly. I was going to do a Sim video You did an EXCELLENT JOB on this one. Good job ! 2 thumbs up
+Justin Shertzer www.tantalumrecycling.com/goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=21530&p=222665&hilit=tantalum+buy#p222665and of course ebay. As for is it worth it? I cant answer that for you. Only you know what your time is worth. I figure, if I am pulling stuff off the board anyway, whats a another jar on the table to throw things in. Depending on the market, they can fetch $60-$120 per pound I think.
I find you often when looking for scrapping videos. First thanks, it's time consuming so to video it must put the pressure on. I wanted to like and subscribe. I'm a bit out of the regular demographic of a new scrapper. Middle age - comfortable financially, woman, but just like to scrap! Ebay has not worked for me, but the exploring if you will, into tearing this items apart and building piles must say allot of one's personalitly. Anywho, thanks MiketheScrapper and Happy New Year
I have a question the fiberboard chip that usually has the heatsinks attached directly on the silicon chip on the motherboard do they have any amount of gold that is worth going after it seems they would be lacking gold bonding wire Where as the capped bga has the wire embedded under the epoxy top
Hey moose how are you? Recovering from back surgery myself atm.are you still doing ewaste? I live in VA have had a hard time finding buyers even with 100 lbs of motherboards and other things I've cherry picked so I may bow out any advice ? Good luck God bless and happy scrapping!
Thanks for the videos they are really helpful,on regular circuit boards (low to med grade)is it best to remove whatever I can and toss the rest?locally they have no value.
Also, Moose I know you are a "scrapper" but I've found gold plate on jewelry, plates, vases, jewelry that is full alloy (silver, copper, gold mix) 10-22k not plate, curios, eyeglass frames, salt/ pepper shakers and all kinds of kitchen items. Pictures frames as well are sometimes sterling and/or gold plate usually. I've actually started looking at pewter which is tin & lead. Tin is pretty valuable, more valuable than copper although the price has come down. I just have to figure how to separate the tin from lead but I've only found one place that takes it. Some medals or pins/posts, earrings are also gold/silver. I find it takes less time to process these items and I don't have much space because I live in an apartment. Thanks again for your videos and unusual places to find stuff. Oh BTW - on boards or gold items I take a known gold plate item (a plated connector end/cell phone board) and compare the colors after scratching the board etc. to compare shiny copper with gold. It usually is fairly easy to see the difference especially in good sunlight.
Gold motherboards actually do exist. They're made of ceramic and used in very specialized situations. Some motherboards use silver paint to temper EMI, and appear silver white.
Moose, great videos! As for the elusive gold boards, I have personally seen gold circuit boards, my uncle worked for digital in the late 70s and he had a briefcase full of gold boards. You would have to find some old massive mainframes from the late 70s, not motherboards from old pcs. They're like he holy grail at this point though.
Hey there Moose. Just wondering who buys the Palladium and what is the best way to crack open the silver caps without squashing them flat? Also how do you process the palladium chip thingys lol
There are some gold plated boards that come out of cell towers. It's an RF shielding and just about the thinnest plating there is. After AP it's difficult to recover because it breaks into micro pieces.
Are the monolithic ceramic capacitors only the tan ones, or are there more a variety of colors? I've even seen what appears as monolithic ceramic capacitors that are round and not square, what are these?
Pins in sockets on mother boards are always plated, usually gold, sometimes silver, and very rarely nickel or tin. It all has to do with the assurance of a high quality connection. Data connections are almost universally gold plate and power connections if not bare copper are silver plate. Gold traced circuit boards do exist but you will never see these scraping consumer level electronics. Only the highest grade military electronics have this. If you get a hold of some microwave communications gear, you should find some really heavy plated items.
hay moose i have I-a 1999 gold mother board IT HAS A 2"pin plate lots of gold pins on it sure looks good some one dump it in are dumpster at are home im puting on some testing this mother board has all the things your showing on your vedio what do you think?
fredie w Hi and thanks for watching! You have a gold colored mother board, that's a good start! Remember that it is only gold colored and not actually gold etched. Each of those mother boards without the ram and CPU will have anywhere from $5-$12 in gold.
Moose Scrapper HAY" mOOSE THANKS FOR GRTING BACK TO ME ON MY MOTHER BOARD I HAVE 2 2" & 1 1" with gold strips all the pins are gold dark gold looking ram has more gold and the cpu; has gold and all the fingers have good nice board dos not look like your board at all what do you think ? freddie W
fredie w I think its a good start! The pins and fingers will have gold. The IC's will have gold, but any strips that you see on the mother board...still not gold. They just do not make gold etched motherboards.
is there a chance I could email you when I come across any problems such as what metals are what, whats worth keeping and what's meant to be thrown out. one question I have now is I've pulled out the gold teeth that are in the charge ports of a few old phones...but they're magnetic and silver on the bottoms. is it gold plated or just colored gold
Bricky Nope, you can try, but hot sand baths for boards this large take a long time. I typically cherry pick what I want off. Working on a video for that. Most people use an air chisel or some other super fast way to roughly remove everything.
There are some Tantalum capacitors that are black with a white line to show the + side. Also there are some that are blue and black mostly on TV boards and other types of boards in older computers.
Moose Scrapper Yup no problem their is also a buyer on the Scrap Metal Forum that has picture of all different types he buys. Will give you a better idea what to look for.
Oh and there was one board way back when was plated with gold on the outside they thought it would operate better it didnt so it never caught on, but there are gaming mother boards now that are colored boards and have 6 times the amount of gold on everything for better connections, google it you will see. I am a hardcore gamer, msi and asus have this now. Google 6 times the gold motherboard
***** If you remove those items you are decreasing the value of the board and will be paid a lot less. Most companies that buy the mother boards allow for the heat sinks, CPU's, RAM, and PCI cards to be removed. But that's all.
hey moose was just wondering how you get the gold out off all the sockets, and the rest of the gold on the boards beside the fingers. More of a hobby to me and I think it's fun, sorry if you already have a vid on this
+VERMrunner I don't have a video on this just yet. Also, I don't pull all the gold out of the sockets. For some things the amount of time involved is far to great compared to the gold returned even for a hobbyist like myself. When I ge ta mother board, I pull off the CPU, RAM, and any other finger boards. Then I remove the IC's, IDE pins, MLCC's, tantalums, crystal oscillators, and that's about it. I will pull a pin or two out of the video and printer connectors to check to see if they are fully plated or just a tiny dab at the end.
I thought palladium was a night club, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but in my opinion you could make a ton more $ as a character actor, serious drama or comedic. You have what it takes, and don't worry, they will tell you what to do and say.
there is no good data for me to give you on that due to the HUGE variance in board types, ages, sizes, gbm capacity, etc. most places pay an average of $2-$3.50/lb of mother boards. In my experience with payout-vs yield, I would dare to estimate you could expect $5-$10 of gold per pound of mother boards. So with a little horrible math, roughly 2-300 lbs of mother bards for an ounce. REALLY rough numbers
I shouldn't tell you or Anyone else this, but I have A lot of them. I have found that when Ross Perrott ran IBM, He Demanded that His Business type Motherboards be Loaded with Better than Military Grade boards with PM's. Don't believe? Run an IBM Board and See! you will know if you have them. as they are Heavy! (Around 7 pounds) I won't tell you the "Good" years. Some things you have to find out on your own. But I did refine Almost an Ounce off of just one Board!
what happened with the transaction you made when you shipped a load I do not recall mother boards or capacitors to some outfit and they kept returning your emails, that they have sent you a check. or accounting will send it. signed curious
If you have a lower grad of gold can you purify it to make it 24 k? Also if you mix other gold what happens? Also I have see pins in tvs that should have been gold plated but looks like it was not it was like a shine white color how can you know if it's gold or not? More over on tube tvs it looks like where the bulb is the pins and the inside is gold have you scraped that part before?
Coty Brock Hi and thanks for watching. If it is not gold colored, it is not gold plated. You can purify gold with acids. If you mix in other gold you will only change the purity of the gold to the average of the lot. Tube tvs will only have gold on plated connector ends in IC chips. Inside the glass tube there are no significant quantities of metals to spend the time on.
Thanks man for the help I came a cross abunch of mouses and cords and stuff and one of them is a hook up for a keyboard and it seems to me the metal casing that looks sliver but if you take that sliver part and cut into it. It looks like gold I'm not sure if it is. I tried getting your Facebook and the link on your page did not take me all the way to send a pic
If I take everything off of the green board... What can I do with the empty green board? Can I process it at all? and if not is it even sellable? what do the people who buy it do with them?
Leonard Greenpaw once the green board is depopulated, there are companies that buy them to recover the copper but they pay very little for them. They are almost worthless.
Moose Scrapper Love your vids moose. Can i just throw them in with low grade boards once depopulated? Just trying to do this effectively and ethically. Thanks moose
Perry Seay there are many, a simple google search will pop up several. Right now I am in the process of making a video comparing some. cash for computer scrap dot com is one
do companies buy the boards after you have pulled all gold/copper/aluminum/steel content and other components? ive looked with boardsort and they dont seem to buy depopulated boards
theweirdone Once a board is completely depopulated there is almost no value left to it besides the copper tracing. I am currently looking into how much you can remove from a motherboard unitl it is considered low grade.
Moose, i have a large pile of motherboards as well. my yard buys the low grade at a good price but a poor price for motherboards. ive seen most scrappers on here either use board sort or cashforelectronicscrapusa have you used either of them and whats your opinions for either of them. Thanks! and keep making the videos!! love them
James Linch THanks for watching! I do not sell my mother boards to either company though I have heard very good things about them both, particularly boardsort. I live in Maine so the shipping costs are too high for me. I tend to strip them down to process myself. I have sold some on ebay though for a reasonable profit.
Hassan Ajrouche steel, copper, brass, silver, gold, pallatium, possibly platinum depending on the board, aluminum, tantalum, lead, tin. I think that about covers it...
Hi Moose I'm Emma from Manchester in the uk I have been told from scrapping pc towers I can get zapped (shocked) on the motherboard and in the power supply is this right as I have lots of towers to scrap thanks again Moose
I get 75cents a pound for mother boards and 28 dollars a pound for porcelain pentium pro chips... I but them by the hundreds to scrap, usually around 800-1500 at a time.. You can scrap everything... It's ALL worth something down to the scrap steel.
Great information on the components of a motherboard. Sidenote: I wonder how many paranormal enthusiasts are dying to investigate your house because of the "orb activity" throughout your video. I know someone had to be thinking it. I just had to say something. Joking aside, very good info. Thanks!
I don't, I like to hang onto it. You should be able to sell at jewelry stores, pawn shops, lots of places that say "we buy gold" or ebay, more money on ebay
So...the title says that this video is about scrapping a blu-ray player...oh, well, this was more useful anyway. Great video, just a quick question. What all can you remove from a motherboard or other type of board before someplace like boardsort classifies it as a low-grade?
Hi Moose, Great informative vids! I've just started into the fun world of hobby scrapping and have a Question about selling mother boards. Do they still buy them after you remove all the chips and oscillators and such? doesn't seem theres much left to buy after they've been stripped down. Thanks in advance for the reply. Keep up the great work.
+Green Zombie I strip everything off. You're probably only going to get like ten cents a lb anyway. I sell the chips and monolithics on ebay recover as much gold from ALL the pins Ram connections etc and scrape off all the canister style( resistors?) as they are Alum. When i'm done it's worth $0.10/lb
Tell us where the silver is! Are pins gold plated silver? How about the legs of chips? Are some wires solid silver? Maybe you have done a video on silver sites on the board.
Moose Scrapper Hello somebody can help me I'm from Spain and I just got this type of ceramic circuit eeprom I have a ton as much gold I can get out. Here's the photo www.google.com/search?q=eeprom+scrap&client=ms-android-orange-es&prmd=isvn&ei=xnvCWIaIO8KoUePyvbAP&start=10&sa=N&biw=360&bih=569#imgrc=kY3qmbH84PIrGM:
moose iwas looking on web and saw this Scrappeer !!! and her 24k ,525 board ? doses not look like gold but sure can make you think ?? she has a lot of hit's like 1,675,550 alot of look a u's
fredie w yes, and read the comments under that video. There are comments from very well respected professionals who have asked that the video be taken down because it is evident that the proper knowledge is just not there. It is a false positive test plain and simple. There are no gold etched mother boards.
Was able to find the little gold balls? I went to OFs youtube and couldn't find it. Also, noticed he hasn't put a video out in 2 years. where did he go?
make sure to do your chemistry homework before using AP bath for extraction. it is the best process but not balanced properly the gold will "cement" with other minerals and be lost in the solution. Always Think Safety and perform under a vent hood or outdoors still being cautious as not to be inhaling any fumes.
Horace Oakley Exactly. The process is good, but you must be careful and take it one step in time. This isn't leisure work. This is work to be taken seriously. The end result is quite rewarding, but only if done with utmost care.
for a living? Sure! Can you get a hold of 2-3000 lbs of motherboards a month? OK, maybe not that much... but it takes a lot, a WHOLE lot of mother boards to make an income you can live off of. One of the reasons most people who do this operate a large company that has material shipped directly to them, or they do toll refining large scale, or end up just doing it as a hobby like me. Try giving yourself a month to gather as much e-scrap as you can, then recover as much precious metals as you can (all while maintaining a regular job). this will give you an idea of the scale. Best of luck to ya!
effort + expense + time = not full time pay more than full time work!! Maybe combined with other material scrapping in bulk you could balance into a large profit venture. My advice...watch for technology shifts, the latest models, new features, and large scale marketing lead sheeple into upgrading to the newest models which are actually cheaper made, in turn discarding their older units that actually contain a higher value for scrapping.
Maybe you could have in the 70's or 80's when gold was being used more generously on circuitboards. During my childhood, I remember reading an article about a man named goldfinger who became wealthy striping gold from circuitboards. But this was back in the 80's. With time manufacturers have become more stingy with the amount of gold they use. Also the fact that with the advancement of technology they are now able to apply finer layers of gold. As you know everything used to be a lot more bulkier and chunkier including the gold on circuitboards.
I saw a video that said the only metal on CPUs was gold, so you can process them directly in aqua regia... is that true?? Cuz Im sure the pins arent solid gold and as far as I know you need copper to plate gold.......
well I knew the pins were'nt solid gold, but the plating has to be on another metal right?? I sent you a link to that video on facebook, what they say is actually not aqua regia but a mixture of hydrochloric acid and nitric acid, and they end up with gold powder... Its obvious they dont show all the steps but they do mention the only metal contained in CPUs is gold and thats whats bugging me... lol
hp francois Nitric and HCL is aqua regia (once the gold is added). There is a base metal in cpu pins, often brass or copper, a layer of nickel, then the gold. There are different types of CPU's, the ceramics will often only have gold as a metal worth going after. Others will have silver and even palladium.
I Remember this Obvious "Beginner" PM Recovere'r trying to Convince me that there was GOLD in Catalytic Converters. I was happy that he wanted to learn though. So I processed 2 converters. one a Aftermarket Converter, which yielded .9 grams of Palladium and a Import convertor from a Saab, which yielded 9 grams of Platinum and 1.2 Grams Palladium and .4 grams Rhodium. No Gold!
+VERMrunner Yes. Just about all aluminum heat sinks are extruded aluminum I think. One of the higher classes of aluminum is all the little pieces of steel and screws etc are removed.
Gold motherboards are just Asus brand boards. It's a brand color. They're mostly found in HP computers. Interesting aside--the brand name Asus is a Chinese variation of "Jesus."
how can I message you? been watching your videos and have learned a lot. pretty sure I found a gold board and I'd like to get your opinion, It's not a mother board though. only 1"x3"
hardly any. Maybe in some of the IC's, or DLP chips if its a projection screen. Flat panel TVs may have a minute amount of gold plating on some boards.
how. only thing i can think off is going rockaway NJ about two and a half hours im moveing how much is the good a pound bad a pound goodd to know your back on your feet hows your weather
Josh Sampson Weather has been beautiful these past few days. As fot eh boards, I can not give prices as they vary greatly from yard to yard and website to website. I think Boardsort give a good value for them though, and they update prices often.
I like following you. You dont use extremely dangerous methods, you Explain what youre doing, and youre funny too!
cee bee Thanks! Glad I am able to educate and entertain! Best of luck to you!
This is exactly what I was looking for. My grandson gave me one of the old computer towers with that very same board. Thanks for the information.
No worries!
your very thorough and detailed thanks for the info. Merry Christmas
good video, glad to see you back on your feet
Hey Moose, I'm predominantly an e-waste guy and I have to remove 5 billion screws a day. I had a heavy 18v drill, but decided screw it, my arthritic wrist is killing me and went out and bought a little 12v Dewalt impact driver. It's 2 pounds with the battery attached and runs at about 2500 rpms(variable trigger) with twice the torque of a drill. Impact drivers don't cam out and round out the screws like drills do either. I paid $120 for my combo which is pricey(Makita's is a little cheaper), but it has changed my world lol. I can remove 100 screws in half the time with no wrist fatigue.
Anyway, seeing those motherboards reminded me of all the screws scrappers have to contend with and thought I'd share.
Nicodemo B That's awesome! Thanks! When this one dies I will try that one!
Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Thanks for the information.
very informative moose thanks for another great one taking the time to make these clips really helps guys like me
Please folks Don't toss those batts in garbage. Take them to Home depot /Lowes and drop them in the recycle bin located near the tool crib sect. The plastics are VERY high grade find a place that takes them too.
Recycle responsibly.
I was going to do a Sim video You did an EXCELLENT JOB on this one. Good job ! 2 thumbs up
Very Informative! Good Video.
thanks this video was great.!!! was hoping you would make one on mother boards. it's good to see your doing better.
are the tantalum processors really worth scrapping/keeping? If they are who buys them?
+Justin Shertzer www.tantalumrecycling.com/goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=21530&p=222665&hilit=tantalum+buy#p222665and of course ebay. As for is it worth it? I cant answer that for you. Only you know what your time is worth. I figure, if I am pulling stuff off the board anyway, whats a another jar on the table to throw things in. Depending on the market, they can fetch $60-$120 per pound I think.
I find you often when looking for scrapping videos. First thanks, it's time consuming so to video it must put the pressure on. I wanted to like and subscribe. I'm a bit out of the regular demographic of a new scrapper. Middle age - comfortable financially, woman, but just like to scrap! Ebay has not worked for me, but the exploring if you will, into tearing this items apart and building piles must say allot of one's personalitly. Anywho, thanks MiketheScrapper and Happy New Year
I have a question the fiberboard chip that usually has the heatsinks attached directly on the silicon chip on the motherboard do they have any amount of gold that is worth going after it seems they would be lacking gold bonding wire
Where as the capped bga has the wire embedded under the epoxy top
Hey moose how are you? Recovering from back surgery myself atm.are you still doing ewaste? I live in VA have had a hard time finding buyers even with 100 lbs of motherboards and other things I've cherry picked so I may bow out any advice ? Good luck God bless and happy scrapping!
Is it worth more money to remove the CPUs or hand in entire board
Great to hear ure back on your feet, Intresting vid. Thanx Moose, by the way at 1:40 i saw some gold foil ( i wish ) falling off to the ground :D
are all the circuit boards copper
thanx moose, always enjoy your video's, knowledge is power
Thanks for the videos they are really helpful,on regular circuit boards (low to med grade)is it best to remove whatever I can and toss the rest?locally they have no value.
Also, Moose I know you are a "scrapper" but I've found gold plate on jewelry, plates, vases, jewelry that is full alloy (silver, copper, gold mix) 10-22k not plate, curios, eyeglass frames, salt/ pepper shakers and all kinds of kitchen items. Pictures frames as well are sometimes sterling and/or gold plate usually. I've actually started looking at pewter which is tin & lead. Tin is pretty valuable, more valuable than copper although the price has come down. I just have to figure how to separate the tin from lead but I've only found one place that takes it. Some medals or pins/posts, earrings are also gold/silver. I find it takes less time to process these items and I don't have much space because I live in an apartment. Thanks again for your videos and unusual places to find stuff. Oh BTW - on boards or gold items I take a known gold plate item (a plated connector end/cell phone board) and compare the colors after scratching the board etc. to compare shiny copper with gold. It usually is fairly easy to see the difference especially in good sunlight.
Alchemy my friend. Dip the pen in the ink
Gold motherboards actually do exist.
They're made of ceramic and used in very specialized situations.
Some motherboards use silver paint to temper EMI, and appear silver white.
Moose, great videos! As for the elusive gold boards, I have personally seen gold circuit boards, my uncle worked for digital in the late 70s and he had a briefcase full of gold boards. You would have to find some old massive mainframes from the late 70s, not motherboards from old pcs. They're like he holy grail at this point though.
does the refiner give lower price when you reply the ics and bridge chips?
I have 3 flat screen TVs with broken screens I took 1 apart so far.. can I get anything out of them? Help please.
For gold recovery very little flashed boards and maybe a flat pack or two more money as steel scrap and insulated wire tbh
Thanks for making this video, it helped a lot!
What are the gold plated little metal pins made out of...
Hey there Moose. Just wondering who buys the Palladium and what is the best way to crack open the silver caps without squashing them flat? Also how do you process the palladium chip thingys lol
What did you pull the double socket board out of ?
Noah Haley I pulled that one out of an old server. Thanks for watching!
K thanks and your welcome
There are some gold plated boards that come out of cell towers. It's an RF shielding and just about the thinnest plating there is. After AP it's difficult to recover because it breaks into micro pieces.
Are the monolithic ceramic capacitors only the tan ones, or are there more a variety of colors? I've even seen what appears as monolithic ceramic capacitors that are round and not square, what are these?
Eric Willits I would have to see a picture. As far as I know, there are no round monolithic ceramic capacitors.
Eric Willits How would or can I send a picture through these comments? Is there an email address I can send a picture of them
Moose Scrapper Most of the time I find them inside the silver box that a coaxial cable is screwed into on a tube tv
Eric Willits moosescrapper on facebook. You can upload pics and get lots of feedback.
Pins in sockets on mother boards are always plated, usually gold, sometimes silver, and very rarely nickel or tin. It all has to do with the assurance of a high quality connection. Data connections are almost universally gold plate and power connections if not bare copper are silver plate. Gold traced circuit boards do exist but you will never see these scraping consumer level electronics. Only the highest grade military electronics have this.
If you get a hold of some microwave communications gear, you should find some really heavy plated items.
hay moose i have I-a 1999 gold mother board IT HAS A 2"pin plate lots of gold pins on it sure looks good some one dump it in are dumpster at are home im puting on some testing this mother board has all the things your showing on your vedio what do you think?
fredie w Hi and thanks for watching! You have a gold colored mother board, that's a good start! Remember that it is only gold colored and not actually gold etched. Each of those mother boards without the ram and CPU will have anywhere from $5-$12 in gold.
Moose Scrapper HAY" mOOSE THANKS FOR GRTING BACK TO ME ON MY MOTHER BOARD I HAVE 2 2" & 1 1" with gold strips all the pins are gold dark gold looking ram has more gold and the cpu; has gold and all the fingers have good nice board dos not look like your board at all what do you think ? freddie W
fredie w I think its a good start! The pins and fingers will have gold. The IC's will have gold, but any strips that you see on the mother board...still not gold. They just do not make gold etched motherboards.
is there a chance I could email you when I come across any problems such as what metals are what, whats worth keeping and what's meant to be thrown out. one question I have now is I've pulled out the gold teeth that are in the charge ports of a few old phones...but they're magnetic and silver on the bottoms. is it gold plated or just colored gold
Maybe I missed it, but is a hot sand bath how you get all the pieces off?
Bricky Nope, you can try, but hot sand baths for boards this large take a long time. I typically cherry pick what I want off. Working on a video for that. Most people use an air chisel or some other super fast way to roughly remove everything.
ok thanks
There are some Tantalum capacitors that are black with a white line to show the + side. Also there are some that are blue and black mostly on TV boards and other types of boards in older computers.
TwoOneO Scrapping Great info! Thanks!
Moose Scrapper Yup no problem their is also a buyer on the Scrap Metal Forum that has picture of all different types he buys. Will give you a better idea what to look for.
Oh and there was one board way back when was plated with gold on the outside they thought it would operate better it didnt so it never caught on, but there are gaming mother boards now that are colored boards and have 6 times the amount of gold on everything for better connections, google it you will see. I am a hardcore gamer, msi and asus have this now. Google 6 times the gold motherboard
Should i depopulate circuitboards remove ic cpu heatsink gold fingers or send in as is thanks
***** If you remove those items you are decreasing the value of the board and will be paid a lot less. Most companies that buy the mother boards allow for the heat sinks, CPU's, RAM, and PCI cards to be removed. But that's all.
hey moose was just wondering how you get the gold out off all the sockets, and the rest of the gold on the boards beside the fingers. More of a hobby to me and I think it's fun, sorry if you already have a vid on this
+VERMrunner I don't have a video on this just yet. Also, I don't pull all the gold out of the sockets. For some things the amount of time involved is far to great compared to the gold returned even for a hobbyist like myself. When I ge ta mother board, I pull off the CPU, RAM, and any other finger boards. Then I remove the IC's, IDE pins, MLCC's, tantalums, crystal oscillators, and that's about it. I will pull a pin or two out of the video and printer connectors to check to see if they are fully plated or just a tiny dab at the end.
how can you tell if it's just gold plated or actual gold?
Casey Nowell gold plate is gold. i dont there is any solid gold in computers.
Great video, i have some old HP boards with white ceramic cpu, they looks like gold plated, but no tested
I thought palladium was a night club, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but in my opinion you could make a ton more $ as a character actor, serious drama or comedic. You have what it takes, and don't worry, they will tell you what to do and say.
awesome, I do love me a good picture show
please tell me approx.. how much you make on board and the time spent to make it ,or how many boards you have to process to make a ounce of gold
there is no good data for me to give you on that due to the HUGE variance in board types, ages, sizes, gbm capacity, etc. most places pay an average of $2-$3.50/lb of mother boards. In my experience with payout-vs yield, I would dare to estimate you could expect $5-$10 of gold per pound of mother boards. So with a little horrible math, roughly 2-300 lbs of mother bards for an ounce. REALLY rough numbers
I shouldn't tell you or Anyone else this, but I have A lot of them. I have found that when Ross Perrott ran IBM, He Demanded that His Business type Motherboards be Loaded with Better than Military Grade boards with PM's. Don't believe? Run an IBM Board and See! you will know if you have them. as they are Heavy! (Around 7 pounds) I won't tell you the "Good" years. Some things you have to find out on your own. But I did refine Almost an Ounce off of just one Board!
Thanks Val... I have not see many IBM's lately but going to check the Sally Ann used stores if their is that much gold in them...
Yes there's where I'm at?
what happened with the transaction you made when you shipped a load I do not recall mother boards or capacitors to some outfit and they kept returning your emails, that they have sent you a check. or accounting will send it. signed curious
They sent checks for 2 of the 4 boxes and did not acknowledge much of what I sent, or at least said it was not in the boxes.
Hey thanks for the information, you did a very good job. Thumbs up
If you have a lower grad of gold can you purify it to make it 24 k? Also if you mix other gold what happens? Also I have see pins in tvs that should have been gold plated but looks like it was not it was like a shine white color how can you know if it's gold or not? More over on tube tvs it looks like where the bulb is the pins and the inside is gold have you scraped that part before?
Coty Brock Hi and thanks for watching. If it is not gold colored, it is not gold plated. You can purify gold with acids. If you mix in other gold you will only change the purity of the gold to the average of the lot. Tube tvs will only have gold on plated connector ends in IC chips. Inside the glass tube there are no significant quantities of metals to spend the time on.
Thanks man for the help I came a cross abunch of mouses and cords and stuff and one of them is a hook up for a keyboard and it seems to me the metal casing that looks sliver but if you take that sliver part and cut into it. It looks like gold I'm not sure if it is. I tried getting your Facebook and the link on your page did not take me all the way to send a pic
Coty Brock yeah sorry, facebook got hacked and I cant get back in. As for the part you are describing it sound like nickel plated brass.
Can you sell capacitors ?since there just batteries I would think so.
I'm definitely subscribing thank you Sr
Have you found a place to sell the tantalum ?
is the gold,gold plated or is it gold
what was the green tube on the Apple motherboard
How much gold in one computer motherboard?
If I take everything off of the green board... What can I do with the empty green board? Can I process it at all? and if not is it even sellable? what do the people who buy it do with them?
Leonard Greenpaw once the green board is depopulated, there are companies that buy them to recover the copper but they pay very little for them. They are almost worthless.
Moose Scrapper Love your vids moose. Can i just throw them in with low grade boards once depopulated? Just trying to do this effectively and ethically. Thanks moose
Dennis Little as long as you leave a little something on them, even if its just aluminum capacitors.
Moose Scrapper
Those would be the black plastic wrapped cylinders?
Leonard Greenpaw yup. the folks at rockaway recycling say there needs to be at least one item on the board for it to be low grade and not junk.
What places are there to sell too besides boardsort?
Perry Seay there are many, a simple google search will pop up several. Right now I am in the process of making a video comparing some. cash for computer scrap dot com is one
the chips with the gold fillament also have bonding gold wire in them
So i have a Xfinity X1 cable box and 4 remotes...could u make a video on that
Done screwing off? Yeah. The copper tubing aluminum finned pc, what is in them?
do companies buy the boards after you have pulled all gold/copper/aluminum/steel content and other components? ive looked with boardsort and they dont seem to buy depopulated boards
theweirdone Once a board is completely depopulated there is almost no value left to it besides the copper tracing. I am currently looking into how much you can remove from a motherboard unitl it is considered low grade.
The slot processor boards pay the same as large socket mbd's as far as my buyer goes. Right now $2.80 lbd.
Great video like always
Hey moose. Digging your videos, could you do one on what materials are microchips so I can sort my stuff more efficiently
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Were do u sell mono ceramic capacitators
Idoallthat Hi and thanks for watching! I sell those on ebay.
Moose, i have a large pile of motherboards as well. my yard buys the low grade at a good price but a poor price for motherboards. ive seen most scrappers on here either use board sort or cashforelectronicscrapusa have you used either of them and whats your opinions for either of them. Thanks! and keep making the videos!! love them
James Linch THanks for watching! I do not sell my mother boards to either company though I have heard very good things about them both, particularly boardsort. I live in Maine so the shipping costs are too high for me. I tend to strip them down to process myself. I have sold some on ebay though for a reasonable profit.
What if i just got my Blowtorch out and just started to melt the whole motherboard?
+Maximus Brutus Toxic gasses, solder everywhere, and a host of other reasons not to do that....
what is the list of all the metals that make up a mother board?
Hassan Ajrouche steel, copper, brass, silver, gold, pallatium, possibly platinum depending on the board, aluminum, tantalum, lead, tin. I think that about covers it...
Moose Scrapper hmm interesting xD
Hi Moose I'm Emma from Manchester in the uk I have been told from scrapping pc towers I can get zapped (shocked) on the motherboard and in the power supply is this right as I have lots of towers to scrap thanks again Moose
Emma Webster Certain electronics can hold a charge, even when unplugged. I generally wait a week before I scrap electronics.
jtcardsfan That's the answer I would have given, and would add that I have never been zapped!
Please give the name of a company that purchases electronic scrap at the best market price and is reliable
ebay
I get 75cents a pound for mother boards and 28 dollars a pound for porcelain pentium pro chips... I but them by the hundreds to scrap, usually around 800-1500 at a time.. You can scrap everything... It's ALL worth something down to the scrap steel.
+TheZincZipper You are only getting $28 per pound of the Pentium pro chips? They are worth at least three times that much!! Check with your buyer!
+Moose Scrapper you have a good source I may sell to Moose?
Great information on the components of a motherboard. Sidenote: I wonder how many paranormal enthusiasts are dying to investigate your house because of the "orb activity" throughout your video. I know someone had to be thinking it. I just had to say something. Joking aside, very good info. Thanks!
+Bill Shelton ...everyone knows orbs don't count...right? Dusty basement, 100+ year old house.... lol
Where do you sell the gold once you have recovered it?
I don't, I like to hang onto it. You should be able to sell at jewelry stores, pawn shops, lots of places that say "we buy gold" or ebay, more money on ebay
So...the title says that this video is about scrapping a blu-ray player...oh, well, this was more useful anyway. Great video, just a quick question. What all can you remove from a motherboard or other type of board before someplace like boardsort classifies it as a low-grade?
Dwight Gordon Yup , Im an idiot....uploaded the wrong video. That's a great question. I am in the process of finding that out. Will let you know
Hi Moose, Great informative vids! I've just started into the fun world of hobby scrapping and have a Question about selling mother boards. Do they still buy them after you remove all the chips and oscillators and such? doesn't seem theres much left to buy after they've been stripped down. Thanks in advance for the reply. Keep up the great work.
+Green Zombie as low grade boards yes.
+Green Zombie I strip everything off. You're probably only going to get like ten cents a lb anyway. I sell the chips and monolithics on ebay recover as much gold from ALL the pins Ram connections etc and scrape off all the canister style( resistors?) as they are Alum. When i'm done it's worth $0.10/lb
+Robert Tyrrell thanks very much
Tell us where the silver is! Are pins gold plated silver? How about the legs of chips? Are some wires solid silver? Maybe you have done a video on silver sites on the board.
nice video I saw another video where a woman says the gold board is 24 karat hahaha she will be dissapointed
It happens, sometimes people get excited about something, get some bad info, it happens to me as well.
I remember seeing that video. If she was right about that board, it would have been a lot more expensive.
Moose Scrapper Hello somebody can help me I'm from Spain and I just got this type of ceramic circuit eeprom I have a ton as much gold I can get out. Here's the photo www.google.com/search?q=eeprom+scrap&client=ms-android-orange-es&prmd=isvn&ei=xnvCWIaIO8KoUePyvbAP&start=10&sa=N&biw=360&bih=569#imgrc=kY3qmbH84PIrGM:
my mail is antoniorosellmartin@gmail.com.
moose iwas looking on web and saw this Scrappeer !!! and her 24k ,525 board ? doses not look like gold but sure can make you think ?? she has a lot of hit's like 1,675,550 alot of look a u's
fredie w yes, and read the comments under that video. There are comments from very well respected professionals who have asked that the video be taken down because it is evident that the proper knowledge is just not there. It is a false positive test plain and simple. There are no gold etched mother boards.
I'm confused. This is a video about motherboards, not Blu-Ray player?
RyeOnHam I know....I'm an idiot....Thought I uploaded a different video......
You can just change the name of the video, luckily. Won't have to re-upload.
Was able to find the little gold balls? I went to OFs youtube and couldn't
find it. Also, noticed he hasn't put a video out in 2 years. where did he go?
Sold motherboard purchased me
I get tons of old motherboards from my job almost everyday. I dont know if they are worth anything though. They come from refrigerators
I usually throw them away
hi, my gold does not dissolve in aqua regia. why?
+Vimal Patel I have no idea, I have never used aqua regia. Try searching the boards at the goldrefiningforum for answers. BEst of luck!
what is best melting with heat, or liquid
Neither. Acid recovery is best.
make sure to do your chemistry homework before using AP bath for extraction. it is the best process but not balanced properly the gold will "cement" with other minerals and be lost in the solution. Always Think Safety and perform under a vent hood or outdoors still being cautious as not to be inhaling any fumes.
Horace Oakley Exactly. The process is good, but you must be careful and take it one step in time. This isn't leisure work. This is work to be taken seriously. The end result is quite rewarding, but only if done with utmost care.
hi, we are interested in buying good condition motherboard with 6th~8th CPU, and we need quantity. do u have?
Sorry no
Can i do this for a living ?
for a living? Sure! Can you get a hold of 2-3000 lbs of motherboards a month? OK, maybe not that much... but it takes a lot, a WHOLE lot of mother boards to make an income you can live off of. One of the reasons most people who do this operate a large company that has material shipped directly to them, or they do toll refining large scale, or end up just doing it as a hobby like me. Try giving yourself a month to gather as much e-scrap as you can, then recover as much precious metals as you can (all while maintaining a regular job). this will give you an idea of the scale. Best of luck to ya!
Thanks for the advice man ! Really nice video tho ill try that out :D
effort + expense + time = not full time pay more than full time work!! Maybe combined with other material scrapping in bulk you could balance into a large profit venture. My advice...watch for technology shifts, the latest models, new features, and large scale marketing lead sheeple into upgrading to the newest models which are actually cheaper made, in turn discarding their older units that actually contain a higher value for scrapping.
Maybe you could have in the 70's or 80's when gold was being used more generously on circuitboards. During my childhood, I remember reading an article about a man named goldfinger who became wealthy striping gold from circuitboards. But this was back in the 80's. With time manufacturers have become more stingy with the amount of gold they use. Also the fact that with the advancement of technology they are now able to apply finer layers of gold. As you know everything used to be a lot more bulkier and chunkier including the gold on circuitboards.
there are gold pcb boards and are rare but most boards use gold over pins and pads
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I saw a video that said the only metal on CPUs was gold, so you can process them directly in aqua regia... is that true?? Cuz Im sure the pins arent solid gold and as far as I know you need copper to plate gold.......
hp francois That's as wrong as saying the poutine is gross!!!! They are indeed only plated gold. Wishful thinking though!
well I knew the pins were'nt solid gold, but the plating has to be on another metal right?? I sent you a link to that video on facebook, what they say is actually not aqua regia but a mixture of hydrochloric acid and nitric acid, and they end up with gold powder... Its obvious they dont show all the steps but they do mention the only metal contained in CPUs is gold and thats whats bugging me... lol
and yup.... poutine is awesome, its all about that squeeky cheese lol
hp francois Nitric and HCL is aqua regia (once the gold is added). There is a base metal in cpu pins, often brass or copper, a layer of nickel, then the gold. There are different types of CPU's, the ceramics will often only have gold as a metal worth going after. Others will have silver and even palladium.
So whats HCL and bleach??
According to my brother : mainboards as resource for gold is history.
I Remember this Obvious "Beginner" PM Recovere'r trying to Convince me that there was GOLD in Catalytic Converters. I was happy that he wanted to learn though. So I processed 2 converters. one a Aftermarket Converter, which yielded .9 grams of Palladium and a Import convertor from a Saab, which yielded 9 grams of Platinum and 1.2 Grams Palladium and .4 grams Rhodium. No Gold!
thanks . .good and helpful video
just wondering are the aluminum heet plates in the power supply are the same aluminum on the mother board
+VERMrunner Yes. Just about all aluminum heat sinks are extruded aluminum I think. One of the higher classes of aluminum is all the little pieces of steel and screws etc are removed.
great clip
Gold motherboards are just Asus brand boards. It's a brand color. They're mostly found in HP computers. Interesting aside--the brand name Asus is a Chinese variation of "Jesus."
What's AP?
+Nate Barker Acid + Peroxide. The mix that the plated scrap goes into. The Bath=?)
how can I message you? been watching your videos and have learned a lot. pretty sure I found a gold board and I'd like to get your opinion, It's not a mother board though. only 1"x3"
Slot CPU motherboards are worth the same as Large Socket.
PLATINUM ARE THE WHITE PINS? WITH HYDROCHLORIC ACID DO NOT COME OUT LIKE GOLD? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE GOOD CONTINUATION ACCIDENTALLY CONGRATULATIONS
hay moose how about t vs any gold in them
hardly any. Maybe in some of the IC's, or DLP chips if its a projection screen. Flat panel TVs may have a minute amount of gold plating on some boards.
how. only thing i can think off is going rockaway NJ about two and a half hours im moveing how much is the good a pound bad a pound goodd to know your back on your feet hows your weather
Josh Sampson Weather has been beautiful these past few days. As fot eh boards, I can not give prices as they vary greatly from yard to yard and website to website. I think Boardsort give a good value for them though, and they update prices often.
nice video, thanks for posting it
AP?
Acid peroxide. Hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide.
I found these gold balls on pentium pro motherboard and yes they are tiny, only 1.5mm in diameter