Secrets of Agincourt - Medieval Dead - S02 EP02 - History Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2023
- Explore the mysteries of the Battle of Agincourt in this episode of Medieval Dead. Join archaeologist Tim Sutherland as he embarks on a decade-long quest to uncover the lost graves and history surrounding this famous medieval battle. Discover how John George Woodford, a British army officer, played a key role in the search for Agincourt's secrets. Follow the journey to identify the true battlefield location and learn about the legendary brothers of King Henry V who participated in the battle. Dive into the past with exclusive access to the tomb of Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, who fought alongside his royal sibling in this historic conflict.
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Thank you really enjoyed this
Dont get why there is so many Haters in the
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First sight of professor Curry told me the path she would try to go down . All over the world , men who have fought or worked together have reunions . It is a kind of brotherhood .
I think you're right about that. There's precedent for it everywhere, and it's logical to assume it wouldn't have been any different for the English in that period in wanting to reminisce.
Makes one wonder if she really has any real world experience.
I must be misunderstanding your point. First, my husband was a combat veteran and never once attended any sort of reunion or expressed a desire to see the men he fought with. I am not saying the reunions do not exist, but that making it so all inclusive is simply not true. Second, it is well known that Shakespear writing this story 200 years later, was well known for taking great fictional license for the sake of ticket sales. His depiction of Richard III is a prime example. Agincourt is a well known battle, but documentation and even the site are lost and a matter of conjecture. Henry and Humphrey did indeed fight in it. And nobles, really until recently, would have been the most likely to stay in contact after the battle was over since the common foot soldier either died, went where he was sent next, or went home. Without the benefit of ease of travel, reunions would have only been for the nobility who would not have mingled socially with commoners even had they remembered who was who after the battle. And since I don't see Mr Sutherland and Professor Curry disagreeing during this, and she was in this at his invitation, I do not understand what you knew about her at first sight except that she was an older female academic. So would your point be simple misogyny?
Of course Henry V was an aggressor. He was trying to regain his territory in France and ensure it remained unthreatened by the French King. His campaign ensured England emerged as a dominant military power and safe from invasion. I’m also interested in how professor Curry doesn’t think that a direct descendant of William the Conqueror wasn’t entitled to Normandy. And of course survivors of the battle would have considered themselves a “band of brothers”. Anyone who has served their nation, king or feudal lord would have known that they had done their duty. The crusades to the Holy Land relied heavily on the bragging rights of having been there as part of their recruitment campaign.
That has to be a tautology, if Henry was trying to regain his territory he had been aggressed against, then he had a perfect right of redress.
Looking forward to watching this but wanted to say another massive thank you for sharing these documentaries that show information that should be taught in ALL British schools to remember the nations history, culture & heritage 🇬🇧
Agreed. Unfortunately genuine history doesn't fit with the narrative of today's wokerati who now control such things.
It is up to you to learn your history. You can't force a kid to learn and respect history. I did it myself. I have a great interest in history, not from some boring teacher, but from myself. I learnt next to nothing about the 100 years war at school but learnt myself. Same with WWI, learnt nothing much at school. I in adulthood have been to Ypres and the Somme 3 times each to tour the battlefields/cemeteries. I fostered that keen interest and respect.
What I am trying to say is you can't force kids to like, learn and respect history....there are thousands of books and resources out there.
A footnote, when I was in Tyne Cot cemetery in Ypres I used to see coach-loads of schoolkids debusing there for a trip. Most looked disinterested, disengaged or even worse dicked about. I would rather they not be there. Genuine history-lovers, not disinterested kids 'forced' to learn and respect history they don't care about.
@@leod-sigefast - I think you’re missing the point I was making .. I had to be pc to make sure it didn’t get deleted 😁
This is so cool.
My father's family is from St Albin's.
I believe some are still there.
Thank you for this bit of family history.
Superb relaying of history, Thank you.
Would love to see lidar of this field and castle.
Superb devotion and determination to his subject which in my humble view I share/d too in my younger days back in 1960s when, working in Brussels, I came down this way and also to the site of the Field of a Cloth of Gold of Henry VIII’s time…
'It was an invasion by an aggressor' so was 1066, stop with the hand wringing
Have they used drones to look at the fields at various times of year to see what the ground marks would show?
I suggest Tim contacts Michael Livingston who wrote the new benchmark book on the subject
When was this documentary put together? [edit] released in 2015.
I love the ending of the 100 years war. Put everything in the right perspective.
So dig!
First she said that the kings brother never fought in another war after Agencourt. Then she says he went on to fight in battles after Angcourt the two statements can't be right. 🤔☘️
It was not an INFAMOUS battle, it was an outstanding FAMOUS victory by the English against the French, repeated many, many times across the world since that great day.....
Want to watch the Agincourt documentary, but can’t find series 1, ep 1. Only series 2, ep 1. Is series one still available, don’t want to start in the middle
the series is Medieval Dead, every episode is a stand alone and talks about a different topic. So go ahead, no worries
I never see documentaries in Blighty about the battle of Watling st ... the battle that put pay to Boudicca's plan for a green and pleasant land. And yet it is one of the most important battles to be fought in the UK. Another battle that comes to mind is Bannockburn. Why not look for those dead? What am I saying? I can't get the idea out of my head that this documentary with F all to show is actually quite jingoistic. At one point I was expecting to hear Jerusalem ... I mean what mind juxtaposes Agincourt with Waterloo ... besides the latter was in fact won by Blucher and the Prussians.
Despite my musings, thank you for uploading all these very interesting documentaries.
I think they were comparing the searches for graves.
It would be nice in future documentaries, if there would be a better proof-reading of the text being used in the close captioning. I have lost count of the misspelling of the word Agincourt, I lost count (and it was disconcerting) when reading the transcripts and close captioning.
I think the captioning is done by a computer and the computer uses the sound on the video. The sound of "Agincourt" varies according to who is speaking and other factors, so we have different spellings. I have see that sort of misspelling a lot.
@@dorothywillis1 The real mispelling is to name the battle Agincourt instead of Azincourt.
There's a village named Agincourt but it is near the german border.
@@robert-surcouf The captions are computer-generated from the video. The spelling variations are caused by the computer's responses to different voices speaking in different circumstances. As for "correct" spelling of anything, that didn't exist back in 1415.
@@dorothywillis1 Doesn't spelling correctly 600 years ago doesn't mean it couldn't be fix now
The English had no right to be there? The Normans had no right to be here, no one has a right to be anywhere.
French only stopped being the official language in England 53 years before!
@@clivebaxter6354 an apposite point, the issue being that the French Nobility and English and some Scots for that matter were inter related. In short the English were doing what their nominal French commanders told them to do.The French would invade time and again to influence English politics.
LOL!
Bouvines battle is very well known too.
Crécy too ich dien..And where a forerunner of Balaclava was enacted ie that those who were forward cried « Back! » and those behind cried « Forward! » Pity a poor blind king somewhere in the middle who would leave his medallion « ich dien » for the battle winning king of England to find and adopt for his own…
With respect to all here of greater reading but I cannot understand why there is an omission of even the plain crossroads here at Azincourt with local reference to the site and where one road goes downhill to Maisoncelles… Why not? Some fear of vulgarisant the research? But the references to the site are there for all to see, and nothing wrong in that, no more than local references on old postcards of the 1960s.
@@Cromwelldunbar you can compare Crécy and Castillon. These battles are the beginning (almost) and ending acts of the hundred years war. But Bouvines and Azincourt are two of a kind.
So... a whole show without finding 1 secret of Agincourt?
Should've been titled "history of Agincourt"
Agreed. Bit of a clickbaity title. I was hoping they had actually found some archaeological evidence but just a lot of narrative. Typical Frogs, though, being pompous about digging up a bit of turf to establish some factual evidence for one of their most important battles historically speaking.
@@demosthenes1296 I think the fact that they lost and lost because of the stupidity at the top may hae something to do with it.
@@dorothywillis1 There's a weak point in your argument.
If they had lost again and again, why did Henry 5 had only Calais, Bordeaux and Bayonne in 1415 while Edward 3 had the Gascony in 1337 and the whole Aquitaine (and technically the whole old Plantagenet empire) in 1358-1359.
You couldn't lost and lost while gaining territories at the same time or the story that you learned had some holes.
@@robert-surcouf English is obviously your second language, so perhaps that is why you don't understand that I was speaking only of this one particular battle, not of the events of the previous hundred years.
Saying "lost and lost" imply that it's not only one battle when you use the word twice or maybe it's an english specificity that i don't know
I have not finished watching, but I want to mention that I don't understand why the French authorities won't allow research on that one field. Are they still mad?
OK. I've finished watching the video. I find that woman with the posh accent's dismissal of everything in Shakespeare's play very off-putting. He lived a lot closer to the date of the battle and knew more about the attitude of the average Englishman to the battle than she does. He was born almost exactly 150 years after Agincourt. While he was growing up Shakespeare might easily have heard talk about what had been done by someone's grandfather at Agincourt. I expected her to deny the authenticity of Gloucester's bones there at the end.
Sore losers? Ayoooo! lol I do agree it’s silly not to dig, but perhaps it’s seen as a tomb bc of all the bodies? Idk! Also hate that the Queen Elizabeth and Charlie won’t allow DNA testing on the bodies of the possible princes in the tower. Maybe chArles will
@@Andy_BabbI’m not sure why they would be sore losers, they’ve perfected the art 😁.
Maybe it's respect for their dead like sunken ships are sacred and left as war graves.
@@mgcocasal We can all guess, but I would like to know definitely. There have been many graves disturbed in France without any objection being made. These particular graves have already been disturbed once. A dig conducted by qualified people to do specific research usually is permitted.
And now I think about it, why are the rules so strict about this one plot of ground while poor Duke Humphrey seems to be a public sight.
@@Andy_Babb England has lost the war!
MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE A CLAIRVOYANT PERSON THAT COULD PICK UP VIBRATIONS OF THE DECISTE
ENERGY AND THAT MAY FIND THE AREA THIS GUY WAS LOOKING FOR. BUT YOU HAVE TO FIND THE BEST THAT
HAS THE KNOWLEDGE ON THIS MATTER.
You dont change the attitude of history of a period . Its part of its sinew how it created the mood of its era. Just change the politics that cause future wars
8:20 I misheard and thought he said “he was going to circumcise…”
Oops 😂😂😂
WHY shut down the farm dig ,, its history and important ,, it really makes you think,, why why it raises even more questions than answers
its called draw your enemy out by nipping at his heals. The get them were you want. Then ..... so, they drew the French out to a piece of land they had fortified, French blood was up and thinking went out... Fox had its catch.
Expecting a bbc production of all those black archers who won the day at Agincourt along with a Chinese Henry V!
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LOL!
My dream choice to play Henry V is Richard Burton.
@@SirDigbyMinge-or8mdso a Welshman to play an English king?
@@molybdomancer195 Yes. Henry was born in Monmouth Castle.
32:00 I feel like something must have gotten lost in the editing here. The idea that they would not have shared camaraderie after a major battle seems even more speculative. This woman studies history. Nobody studies history on purpose without a sense of romance and nostalgia. It shouldn’t be difficult to imagine that survivors of a major battle in history would have had similar feelings no matter why they were there in the first place.
I understand that the skeleton's of the Waterloo dead were exhumed and used to make fertiliser !
Could this possibly be a reason for not finding mass graves ??
No. Many mass graves have been found and examined and the contents reburied.
@@dorothywillis1 👍
we are all experts
Could anyone clarify if that professor pronouncing it AgincourT is correct or if the rest of the world using a silent T is correct??
In the proper French pronunciation, T is silent. Although less commonly used, it is totally correct.
At the time of the battle it was was called Azincourt. Language is constantly evolving. Pronounce it anyway you like.😊
They will find the real battle site and burial places.
PS. I am living in northern British Columbia Canada
I always thought that it was Azincourt. My French friends insist that’s the correct name.
The English never use the French way of pronouncing words.
There is a village name Agincourt but it's located in the east near the german order.
The real name is Azincourt but it's just english that made the same mistake for 600 years.
It's kind of weird that the French don't want any excavations done on such an historical site!
I understand that the skeleton's of the Waterloo dead were exhumed, and used for making fertiliser by French farmers.
Could that have happened here ??
Weird that the French authorities ran so much interference....
Get the lilly livered matron 😾
convince me
Why should we condemn those of wars' past? Their wars at the time were as justified as those been battle in today's wars for the safety and betterment of man. Not only of such comment is criminal but woke at best.
why thy save al the bones
its kinda disrespectful to the death
atleast reburry them
this is why i opt for crimasion
i dont whane end up like that in 2000 years
They are dead. They don't care. Also, most are found by accident when building roads, houses etc. There is often nowhere to bury them afterwards.
Battle of Castillon! But of course you have no interest in it!
So much time and effort, so much data and storage, to acheive so little. Shame.
Very long winded!
Get some new material.
Wth?
Azincourt not Agincourt.
Great
English celebrate winning the battle
But forget
England LOST....
............. LOST... the WAR
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Indeed and it start to become rather boring.
They don't forget that england lost the war.
They only forget (or purposelly skipped) to talk about all their defeats that explain why they lost the war
They are talking about ONE BATTLE.
@@dorothywillis1 And where did i say the opposite ?
more historians who know nothing about the truth
"We had no right to be there" nothing like smearing our own history
Its a pity an educated woman cannot pronounce French place names correctly.
That apart it is still an interesting vlog.
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How is Londonistan? 😂
Why are you touching those ancient books without gloves on ??? Human skin oil is bad for them, you should know that !
Gloves mean more damage is likely, its fairly modern
Sorry bored with the channel too many negatives
What a pity that we have to keep seeing the MIS-SPELT Americanised version of 'mediaeval'. FFS - GET A GRIP....!!!!!
Do you think that it is possible to shake the camera more - clown
Unbelievable