Computer Science vs Cyber Security Degree (2022)

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  • Computer Science vs Cyber Security Degree
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Комментарии • 408

  • @RyanCrandall
    @RyanCrandall  2 года назад +13

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    • @tylerdurden9364
      @tylerdurden9364 2 года назад

      you mentioned needing 4 years of experience at 5:58 . what if I got my bachelor's in 2 years? 🤔

    • @nazarethhandsvorbeck3917
      @nazarethhandsvorbeck3917 Год назад

      I can't even click copy or paste ryan@summitsolutions. When I enter it my browser says not secure and won't let me enter it. Dude my whole life has been hacked my ex just got full custody of my kids for a month her sister's ex is in jail for 40 years because of stuff the authorities found on his phone. He reads on a 3rd grade level could barely use google. Please help me.

  • @iShamu21
    @iShamu21 2 года назад +136

    If you're intending to go into cyber security/IT/Tech get your bachelors in computer science so you're not pigeon holed into just cyber security and its niches. With a BS in Comp Sci. you can get a job in all areas that encompass computer science, with cyber security being a subset of that. It would be harder for a cyber security degree to allow you to deviate from that subset. If you want to specialize in cyber security, get a masters degree after getting experience at cyber security job.

    • @BMAC874
      @BMAC874 Год назад +2

      Thank you🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @Hikaru_f
      @Hikaru_f Год назад +2

      +1

    • @chill4r585
      @chill4r585 Год назад

      so u dont agree wth him?

    • @blackwater7183
      @blackwater7183 Год назад +9

      Nah, all companies want are experience and certificates. You don't even have to go for any degrees if you are planning to get a job in tech. If you want to rank up in the hiearchy however, you need a bachelors at least. You would be surprised how many people work as a programmer having some sort of arts degree. Lol.

    • @adamcaretta4715
      @adamcaretta4715 Год назад +7

      But it also depends on your capabilities as a student
      I was really bad at C++ and math during my Comp Sci degree so I switched to Cyber

  • @gilgilbert5866
    @gilgilbert5866 2 года назад +14

    Finally someone knows what he's talking about between CyberSecurity vs. CS degree. Thank you for an awesome video!

  • @MyComputerCareer
    @MyComputerCareer 2 года назад +2

    Great information to have in back pocket! Thanks for sharing! 😀

  • @deemiranda4251
    @deemiranda4251 2 года назад +3

    thank you! i am going through a career transition and I am now looking into these career paths.

  • @stephanrogers8947
    @stephanrogers8947 2 года назад +1

    Thanks, man. Your info rings true. Thanks for the info!

  • @daku_li1849
    @daku_li1849 2 года назад +3

    Thanks a lot for your detailed knowledge, I m acknowledge by your information, thanks a lot again ❤️❤️

  • @jeffserafica4385
    @jeffserafica4385 Год назад +1

    Hi Ryan Crandall, Thank you for explaining everything crystal clear.

  • @ninisantrax
    @ninisantrax 10 месяцев назад +6

    WOW! I learned to code and obtained an associates for full stack dev and it was insane but a great set of skills, now going into obtaining my cybersecurity bachelors VERY happy to find this video made a few months ago and what you stated is so true about cyber. I started coding 2 years ago and CS was popular and now cyber seems to be where its at. Thanks for the video!!!

  • @kalpana9079
    @kalpana9079 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for the video... I am just going to start my undergraduate this year but was very confused between cs and cbs , but now I have a plus point towards cyber security 🤗🙃😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @btstheater9482
    @btstheater9482 2 года назад +1

    The thing I wanted the mosttttt.thank youuuu

  • @danieljaeger2982
    @danieljaeger2982 2 года назад +35

    I'm a senior for my BSc in Cybersecurity and we had classes in both python and c#. Even with an advanced c# course. I agree with what Ryan here is saying. I already get emails every day with job offers and I haven't even updated my resume in a few years. lol

    • @TheFreesubs12
      @TheFreesubs12 2 года назад +22

      How did they find your resume?

  • @TriTran-qz5bv
    @TriTran-qz5bv 2 года назад +1

    Your answer really make sense and to the point to me. All the elaboration really resonate with my thinking as well. Really help me to clarify some decisions i am making.🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @lahuntr4217
    @lahuntr4217 Год назад +1

    Holy shit, absolutely amazing video from someone with experience, thank you very much!

  • @atharvaambike1074
    @atharvaambike1074 2 года назад +2

    Thanks bro, this video is very helpful for me to make a choice for my degree!💻

  • @lukalondon8042
    @lukalondon8042 2 года назад +2

    That's awesome 👌 thanks for such an informative video😊

  • @EdSmed20
    @EdSmed20 Год назад +1

    thank you. i love coding but am highly interested in cybersecurity. this helped a lot

  • @antoniogray1417
    @antoniogray1417 2 года назад +2

    One of the best videos out here !! 💪🏾💪🏾

  • @TheRealTiaMaria
    @TheRealTiaMaria 2 года назад +1

    This was extremely helpful!!!

  • @eddier2k9
    @eddier2k9 Год назад

    Makes sense thank you for this!

  • @TNK0777
    @TNK0777 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Ryan this helped a lot (:

  • @rhythmsplays583
    @rhythmsplays583 2 года назад +19

    I know it has been about a year since you posted this but I wanted to thank you.
    I am coming up on finishing my second year of a CS degree and have quickly realized the subject matter doesn't really interest me too much and have recently decided to redirect to Cyber Security. I'd definitely say part of me was a little worried how this would play out but I also am actively coding on the side via my own personal projects and self paced courses on Udemy.
    It might just all work out!

    • @juliandipalma5336
      @juliandipalma5336 10 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, I’m noticing the same thing I’m a first year CIT major thinking of transferring to CS but I noticed the material is not that interesting to me. I want to get a profession in cyber but I’m not sure if I should transfer into CS or Cyber. Any tips?

  • @micaiahreese
    @micaiahreese 2 года назад +15

    Love that this popped up. I’ve been interested in both. I took a cyber security club back in high school (cyber patriot) and that’s what got my interested. I am in the process of getting a cyber security certificate and only need one more course , while I was also just taking courses for a Computer science degree. I think I may put my focus into cyber security

    • @ImAshleeS
      @ImAshleeS Год назад +1

      How are you liking cyber security?

    • @micaiahreese
      @micaiahreese Год назад +5

      @@ImAshleeS Im enjoying it. The classes I have taken so far have included virtual environments via Packet tracer. I liked setting up routers switches, firewalls etc. Waiting on the classes to process to receive my certificate for it now.

    • @ImAshleeS
      @ImAshleeS Год назад +1

      @@micaiahreese that’s super cool! Thank you for replying back.

  • @chasingyoujoel
    @chasingyoujoel Год назад

    Thanks man this vid cleared a lot up for me.

  • @atomp153
    @atomp153 2 года назад +1

    I appreciate the advice Ryan the recruiter. Cybersecurity it is!

  • @Matdrox
    @Matdrox 2 года назад +2

    Very informative, thanks dude!

  • @manauryreyes7262
    @manauryreyes7262 2 года назад +16

    Legit answered all the questions I was struggling with!! thank you man!!

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome

    • @dustinj1919
      @dustinj1919 2 года назад

      This was perfect and exactly what I was wondering thank you so much from someone trying to make a career change in my 30s

  • @Flipah
    @Flipah 2 года назад +1

    This is DA video, my husband graduated from Cyber Security BS and I am working on my Computer Science Software Engineer BS. This is the fight in my house XDDD we joke around a lot but thank you about the informative video. Much Love from 2 nerds.

  • @757Media
    @757Media 2 года назад

    Thank you this was helpful.

  • @jlprescott7243
    @jlprescott7243 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info. Cheers!

  • @zxph
    @zxph 4 месяца назад +2

    My advice: BSc in CS + CISSP if blue team and/or OSCP if red team. Flexibility with CS so you can pivot into a dev role if you want, but use top certs to target cyber roles.

  • @colinrodrigues21
    @colinrodrigues21 Год назад +1

    great video!!!

  • @TexasCountry1337
    @TexasCountry1337 2 года назад +132

    Thank you so much for this video man! I’ve leaned more towards Cyber security but also was wondering if I should go for CS instead. I just got out of the military and I’m starting my first year of college this Spring at UTSA whose known for having the #1 Cyber Security program in the country! I’m so stoked to get started.

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  2 года назад +5

      Congrats buddy, that's great, let me know how it goes

    • @duckl637
      @duckl637 2 года назад +16

      Whatever your situation is just know you are already ahead of the pack ! I ruined my opportunity for the military but thankfully this is America and the opportunities are endless !

    • @papacanfly5639
      @papacanfly5639 2 года назад +1

      Toaster??

    • @davejoe4692
      @davejoe4692 2 года назад +1

      ​@@duckl637 Can you kindly explain to me how you ruined your opportunity to join the military?

    • @youtube6817
      @youtube6817 2 года назад +1

      @@davejoe4692 that can literally be anything.

  • @tylerburke1724
    @tylerburke1724 2 года назад +35

    Hey so I’m considering adding a cybersecurity certification or a Bachelors in cybersecurity to my background and I am wrapping up my masters in criminal justice: homeland security in May. I’m curious to hear your opinion regarding this avenue, would it be worth tacking that on seeing as many new crimes, and the security of critical infrastructures are primarily through the web now and are evolving into such. Let me know your thoughts if at all possible. Thank you.
    (My goals are to work to combat human trafficking, terrorism, or in an intelligence field)

  • @ritemid6698
    @ritemid6698 Год назад +1

    Ryan, thank you for the explanation. The way you instated, I am paraphrasing here "looking at today you're making more money as a software/computer science, looking in the next 2-5 year". I was a little insecure of the idea I'll be regretting the desicion on majoring in Cyber Security.

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  Год назад

      Don't 'regret' your decision, just start focusing on the now and making a gameplan for how you want to direct yourself :)

  • @topspot4327
    @topspot4327 2 года назад

    Bro thanks for your advice🥂😁🥂

  • @claudia.xiaolitang8056
    @claudia.xiaolitang8056 2 года назад +1

    And thank you very much for this talk

  • @charliedallachie3539
    @charliedallachie3539 2 года назад +24

    CS you can apply to a lot more career paths including cyber. If you want to really get the best of both, find a solid CS bachelors program and pursue a masters in Cybersecurity. You learn the fundamentals of computers in a decent CS program. Also don’t forget about a few good security certifications on the side.

    • @ahmedhosny9042
      @ahmedhosny9042 2 года назад +2

      Wdym by certifications?

    • @muthuigabriel2442
      @muthuigabriel2442 Год назад +1

      This is the best idea

    • @jtuck7090
      @jtuck7090 Год назад +1

      Just came across the comment. CS is the best idea for someone who wants options. But not so much for someone who wants to specialize and grow in the Cyber Security Field.

  • @Jade-ug1jd
    @Jade-ug1jd 2 года назад

    Thank you so much!

  • @adnananeese
    @adnananeese 2 года назад

    Great content mate✨

  • @sunnysingh8483
    @sunnysingh8483 2 года назад +19

    Thank you for telling me that I am on the right path. 2nd year student in CS at a technical collage. I will have an AS degree in a few more months. I'm here to see what route to take. I'm not the best problem solver so I was looking into the Cyber Security field. I have no clue about how they differ.

    • @freewayal2002
      @freewayal2002 2 года назад +1

      Hey man im doing the exact same thing. I go to a trade school and in a few months I graduate. How is it looking for you man whats the update on your situation

  • @LC-fl3zm
    @LC-fl3zm Год назад

    Great video I’m really interested in cyber security so I can take care of my family

  • @SayedI313
    @SayedI313 Год назад +1

    Well said. As a dentist, I agree with this message

  • @erpktiwari
    @erpktiwari 3 года назад

    Excellent sir

  • @edwino902
    @edwino902 2 года назад +4

    thank you!!! this is the video i was looking for!, i was debating between CS and Security, but didnt know whch one to learn first, i had heard that it was a good idea to become a computer scientist first (because of the knowledge you get on computers since you learn how they work form the inside out) and then learn about cyber security but i guess is not such a bad idea to go straight into cyber security? and then if im really interested i guess go for CS or something else? thank you so so much!!!

  • @alonzodavis3987
    @alonzodavis3987 2 года назад +13

    Good points. I went somewhat a different route. All my mentors that are currently at the top or upper median of this industry highly recommended CS over cyber. Because everything is going automation and someone has to write all of that. Particularly when you consider the normalization of remote work. Coders with focus and knowledge in cybersec are going to be in higher demand than ever.

    • @waliullah3286
      @waliullah3286 Год назад +1

      I'm sorry maybe I'm just confused but above you said that your mentors recommended CS over cyber than you said that someone with cyber knowledge and coding is going to be in more demand???

    • @alonzodavis3987
      @alonzodavis3987 Год назад +5

      @@waliullah3286 I was explaining that cs practitioners that can develop and maintain cyber security infrastructure are in demand because many of the enterprise functions in the cyber security space are being automated by engineers who can design scripts and applications to replace people doing it. Most ticket issues that cannot be immediately solved at the application level are already escalated to engineers anyway. So, approaching infrastructure as code from a cs background is far easier and likely more valuable long term than climbing the purist cyber security hierarchy and discovering you have to go back and learn to code anyway.
      It’s like achieving journeyman as a race car driver and then finding out that in order to graduate into masterclass rank you need to know how to build the engine that drives the car.
      Ultimately it depends on how far you want to go, some people are happy being mid level. My mentor had to go back and learn to code later in his career and lamented not doing it earlier in college.

    • @waliullah3286
      @waliullah3286 Год назад +1

      @@alonzodavis3987 thanks for the explanation, I'm currently an As level student in a 3rd world country who originally was planning on becoming a doctor but can't due to expenses, so now have decided to go into the computer science field out of which cybersecurity seemed most interesting (from the outside atleast) and futureproof (especially where I'm from) and also considering that i hate algebra was leaning towards a bs in cyber over a bsCS but who knows, I'll keep on researching as I have some time in hand and make a decision

  • @maxime_vhw
    @maxime_vhw 2 года назад

    Here cyber is in the computer science. Here in belgium first year is a general year. Then for your 2-3th year you gotta pick a certain direction you wanna go. Programming, cyber, business, ...

  • @eyesoffloraandfauna8728
    @eyesoffloraandfauna8728 2 года назад +1

    4:22 cybersecurity is my first priority and also i love coding but i am not comfortable with deep maths that are teach by the uni in computer science degree because it gives a lot of pressure to students ..... i learn deep maths with coding side by side rather than in uni.

  • @3iesoo
    @3iesoo 2 года назад

    that was a really helpfull vid.

  • @tfinesse7062
    @tfinesse7062 2 года назад +5

    Appreciate the video. I’m going to Woz U boot camp for cyber security and it’s 33 weeks. Mainly because I’m a veteran and my education benefits are paying for it. I know you’re against boot camps in most situations.

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  2 года назад +2

      Most situations, but there's always an exception to the rule. I would see what kind of people have graduated Woz U and what they are doing

    • @security_architect
      @security_architect Месяц назад

      What happened after the boot camp?

  • @christhembones8244
    @christhembones8244 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think you misspoke at end. No biggie. Believe you meant bachelors in Cyber Security with coding on side. Points well taken. Thank you.

  • @Bckner
    @Bckner 2 года назад +1

    Im going to go to a CC with a cybersecurity program, started learning coding already. I definitely want to transfer to a 4 year college afterwards

  • @laughing5559
    @laughing5559 Год назад +1

    One of the coming trends is that for programmers to have admin level access to corporate computers they must have a Cyber Security certification. The certification is a breeze for those that understand computers at a technical level the way software engineers do. Get the engineering degree and the rest is a piece of cake.

  • @logan9540
    @logan9540 2 года назад +40

    A caveat to getting a cybersecurity degree: a lot of the cybersecurity degrees do not teach you crap. When I see a candidate with a cybersecurity degree instead of certifications, I am instantly more weary and skeptical of their knowledge. I give them a chance, it just turns out the majority of them lack fundamental knowledge. This is just because cybersecurity degrees are relatively new and a lot of variation between the degrees; some will be too theoretical whereas some will be too hands-on.
    Additionally, cybersecurity itself is not an entry-level field. There are entry-level cybersecurity jobs, but most entry-level cybersecurity jobs are mid-level IT jobs. The experience and knowledge gained in the previous IT job lays the fundamental knowledge required in cybersecurity.
    On the other hand, computer science degrees have been around for a while and most are relatively well-developed and most will have very little variation with the core subjects. Also, computer science degrees allow for more job security as they are less specialized than cybersecurity.

    • @cr7fanclub747
      @cr7fanclub747 2 года назад +4

      Your words are going to stay in my mind for many upcoming years.👌👍

    • @versaceonthetrack
      @versaceonthetrack 2 года назад +2

      I know a Walmart cashier with 5 security certs. Doubt he can ever run a SOC or he would choose another career. Certs are studying a book and being a good test taker that you will forget the next morning.

    • @MohammedAli-ft4et
      @MohammedAli-ft4et 2 года назад +3

      You can pass an exam for Security certs, however you need at least 5 years hands on experience to be able to actually qualify as a CISSP or CISM.

    • @drewg7036
      @drewg7036 Год назад +1

      This here is exactly why I switched to computer science despite all of the advanced mathematics it requires. Computer science degrees are very versatile and widely respected, whereas Cyber Security degrees are new and may not be respected or teach the true fundamentals

  • @Missp227
    @Missp227 Год назад +1

    Fantastic

  • @The12345Ada
    @The12345Ada 2 года назад +52

    I really wished I'd seen this video sooner I did a Cyber Security BootCamp and it was extremely hard, went from 40 students to 10. Majority of the students who actually understood the material already had experience using the software tools and knowledge of the commands they had to use. Way too much information to grasp at a fast pace. I ended up dropping the class.

    • @brockevin69
      @brockevin69 2 года назад +2

      Thanks for this comment

    • @ddwz950
      @ddwz950 2 года назад

      Holy Cow!! It’s that hard

    • @Kyle-sp1jk
      @Kyle-sp1jk Год назад +3

      I’m in a cybersecurity bootcamp through a local community college. It’s so much information. They break it into two semesters where I go. Even then I still feel like it’s too fast to be able to comprehend. Almost finished with the first semester

    • @user-hi4eh6lm8c
      @user-hi4eh6lm8c 7 месяцев назад

      Crash course is always the best

  • @laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587
    @laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 2 года назад +2

    not sure about the pros for a cybersecurity degree. the demand for cybersecurity professionals is specifically for those with a lot of experience like senior professionals, not juniors with bachelors, because it's just the nature of the job. lots of companies don't want some script kiddie being entrusted with their security (exaggeration but...) and there's a lack of job opportunities for juniors.

  • @rockey5508
    @rockey5508 Год назад +2

    I am not very tech-wise or have any experience with coding. I find cybersecurity interesting because I like to understand the vulnerability of the tech world. For right now I'm starting my major with computer science but I find it quite challenging. Should I switch my major to cybersecurity, or should I find a more easier path?

  • @claudia.xiaolitang8056
    @claudia.xiaolitang8056 2 года назад +62

    I am a 1st year bachelor of cybersecurity student, but found myself much more passionate about maths and coding compared to pen testing. THe only subject I am really interested in cybersecurity is cryptography because its maths heavy. I was thinking about transfer to computer science or software engineering previously, but after watched you video, I decided to give myself one more semester in the cybersecurity course

    • @wasasas19
      @wasasas19 2 года назад +10

      How has the extra semester impacted your thought process? Would love an update! As I’m considering changing my degree. 😊

    • @cookedpotato
      @cookedpotato 2 года назад +3

      He's probably dead

    • @noedits5543
      @noedits5543 2 года назад +4

      @@cookedpotato yes he got hacked and out of shame he eliminated himself.

    • @cookedpotato
      @cookedpotato 2 года назад +3

      @@noedits5543 lol imagine being a Cyber security graduate and you got hacked Soo fast 💀💀
      I think your right, he couldn't take the shame

    • @jetmon5606
      @jetmon5606 2 года назад

      @@cookedpotato he was joking

  • @MDEEZY19
    @MDEEZY19 2 года назад +2

    Hello Ryan. I have no experience in Cyber but believe it be the way forward with regards to warfare. I'm looking into studying a MS in Cybersecurity. The particular program's track is in Policy, however. Is this still a good option with good benefits?

  • @blackwater7183
    @blackwater7183 Год назад

    Computer Science all the way! Just pick up the certs you need what ever field you want to specialize in.

  • @alfred3035
    @alfred3035 2 года назад +12

    Would you recommend getting a 2 year certificate or associates degree

  • @WildCatBlair
    @WildCatBlair 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video! My bachelors has nothing to do with computer science…is getting a masters of computer science something that’s achievable? I’ve really interested but it’s seems kinda intimidating

  • @vietboicool
    @vietboicool 2 года назад +2

    Great video!!! I’m back in school taking classes for my masters of computer science. My bachelors was in economics. I'm trying to decide on if I should do a concentration in big data management or cybersecurity. What do you think is the better choice? Income and job market differences between these two? Btw, I like your heels

    • @laughing5559
      @laughing5559 Год назад

      You economics background will help you later in life when you have money to invest. Cybersecurity is a management field. To initially build your initial nest egg you need a technical field. Engineering is where it starts.

  • @darionjefferson2484
    @darionjefferson2484 2 года назад +2

    What about the boot camp at Georgia Tech? It’s ranked top 8 boot camps because of the one on one training and community environment that you get after completing the boot camp?

  • @unholy7324
    @unholy7324 2 года назад +1

    Just turned in my resume for a big orange store yesterday. I'm nervous so I'm watching all I can LOL

  • @An-R-nz6tx
    @An-R-nz6tx 2 года назад +4

    Enjoyed the video. Unfortunetly I was very unwell with covid back in Jan 2021 and still recovering now a year later. I maybe loosing my job down to capability/I'll health. Being unwell can open your eyes to try something new that I may not off before falling ill because you just get 'comfortable' in your job. I've been advised I can take free courses to learn new skills or better your skills and I'm thinking of computering route. You also gain a qualification and certificate at the end. Cyber security or coding is interesting me. I currently have no qualifications or haven't studied these before but I'm interested. At the age of 32 am I to late?
    Taking some courses and studying appeals to me and would feel a good use of my time whilst recovering.
    Would be interested in your thoughts.
    I've also just subscribed 😀 👍

    • @fishyfishy1656
      @fishyfishy1656 Год назад

      Never too late, just start your journey and it'll be alright. You probably already started it by now so, good luck

  • @tea_cup7
    @tea_cup7 2 года назад +2

    If I get a MS in Data Science and get a Cybersecurity certificate, how likely would I be able to land a job in Cybersecurity? I'm not particularly good at coding (like, the complicated coding). I'm already admitted to the program so it's kind of too late to back out now. Wish I have known about Cybersecurity degree sooner

  • @jdawg3169
    @jdawg3169 2 года назад +1

    Want to clarify a point with a Masters in Comp Sci, not sure how it isn't worth it, all of the professionals I have talked to through the national labs have said otherwise. Maybe it is different in the private sector but I wouldn't think it'd be.

  • @dexterousx92
    @dexterousx92 Год назад

    *Great information here. I actually didn't expect your final answer to be what it was. Now im on to see what the best tool you recommend in your pinned post* Dexterous X

  • @darklight9629
    @darklight9629 Год назад +1

    Makes sense

  • @ralph17p
    @ralph17p 2 года назад +39

    I went for a BA in Mathematics. Now, after 20 years working in computer infrastructure and support, I'm doing an MSc in Cyber Security. Looking forward to see where it takes me.

    • @unholy7324
      @unholy7324 2 года назад

      What are you doing 4 months later?

    • @ralph17p
      @ralph17p 2 года назад

      @@unholy7324 Still doing the MSc - another 18 months to go. I'm on a Software Security module at the moment - doing a bit of a crash course in C and Assembly to test out vulnerabilities like buffer overflows and format string vulnerabilities. Quite challenging fitting it in around work but it is interesting.

    • @unholy7324
      @unholy7324 2 года назад

      @@ralph17p head down keep going! After 1.5 years of teaching myself networking, pentesting, and python I received an email scheduling my first interview today. If my knuckle dragging ass can do it....

    • @batserke6006
      @batserke6006 2 года назад

      Does that still matter after 20 years of work experience? Thought a BSc or MSc only matter when you first get a job.

    • @mike-anthonyfields
      @mike-anthonyfields Год назад

      Did you have to earn a bachelor in cybersecurity before earning your master's?

  • @valdez19kilo
    @valdez19kilo 2 года назад +1

    I know this is 11months old. Praying you see this. I am currently working on both MIS and Cybersecurity degree. Along with a coding bootcamp (hopefully soon) I'm curious have I potentially messed up by not going CS?

  • @omasnessaomasnessa9708
    @omasnessaomasnessa9708 Год назад

    Awesome

  • @corpuzone
    @corpuzone 3 месяца назад

    Or if you know people, that’s your key into getting a coding or cybersecurity job. It’s very challenging due to these fields being saturated

  • @Eggsec
    @Eggsec Год назад

    Hey Ryan,
    I love cyber security, I've never work in the field sadly but I would like to transition to it. From many moons I've been a fan of CTFs and I am doing medium to hard boxes in different free platforms. Using kali as my main OS. I know I should transform this passion as my main job but here's where I need input from guys like you.
    What would you do in your shoes.
    Also sending my resume over for tweaks. Thank you kindly.

  • @christianfischer9971
    @christianfischer9971 Год назад +4

    Thank you for the insights! Very helpful! Do you recommend CCNA or Network+ along with the degree in cyber security? Thanks!

    • @gustavoortizvasquez6442
      @gustavoortizvasquez6442 Год назад +2

      you can do a roadmap, first take the ccna (its a better option than taking the Network+), then take the linux+ in order to get a good understandind of how it works, and then the security+. Before the security+ you have to choose other certifications according to what you are going to specialize.

    • @christianfischer9971
      @christianfischer9971 Год назад

      @@gustavoortizvasquez6442 Awesome! Thank you!

  • @vinsensialaunardo7382
    @vinsensialaunardo7382 Год назад

    those heels are killer btw

  • @danv.2695
    @danv.2695 2 года назад +3

    The college I’m looking to transfer has the option to do cyber security with a minor in computer science I think I might want to do that

  • @weather6927
    @weather6927 2 года назад +1

    Hello I’m not going to university as I don’t believe it’s the right route for me., I wanted to do a boot camp on cybersecurity or softwares engineering. However in the video you said that you don’t believe that boot camps are as good as people think and etc. What do you suggest I do and which should I pick out the two, or should I just not do a boot camp and go university.

  • @brianf7512
    @brianf7512 Год назад +1

    Younger and less sure about career? Get a degree in computer science. Further into career and sure you want to be in infosec? Go with the cyber degree. After a number of years experience it will not matter.
    Boot camp and unbranded carts are like cheap attendance awards and will do little to help you get a job. .

  • @Mlobb7
    @Mlobb7 Год назад

    Hey Ryan, I’m currently a second year computer science student who is looking to change to cybersecurity due to my dislike of coding. Do you think I should stick with comp sci anyways because I could switch to cyber later in my career? Or just make the switch now?

  • @MAEPlays
    @MAEPlays Год назад

    This video is very good and well rounded, I just wanted to ask if spending 1 entire intense year self studying and working for 3 years is possible, instead of spending four years at college?

  • @jamesandrews3570
    @jamesandrews3570 2 года назад +3

    I've recently decided to go back to school for a career change to cybersecurity. I was wondering if you think it matters which school someone goes to. For example, if I got a degree from VT or Syracuse vs a St Bonaventure or Kennesaw State. The biggest difference I see (besides name recognition) is the length of the classes (7 weeks vs full semester). I was curious what your thoughts are since you're a hiring manager.

    • @huskerflyguy79
      @huskerflyguy79 Год назад +1

      From my experience in the real world. Where you chose to go to college doesn’t really matter. All that matters is that you finish and get that degree. So it’s best to find the cheapest college for the program your wanting to take, because you don’t want to borrow more in student loans then you’ll be making your first years on the job.

    • @laughing5559
      @laughing5559 Год назад

      The only thing that matters is that your school is accredited and likely to remain that way. I would not go to one that doesn't offer an engineering path also. When the internet was originally developed physical security was assumed and just getting things to work was the main objective. No thought was placed on security as it was developed to be completely private for engineers to use only. Once the engineers get the bugs worked out of the internet protocols there will be much less need for cybersecurity. Get an engineering degree if you are planning long term.

  • @pawankarki486
    @pawankarki486 2 года назад +6

    Hi! Thank you for this great information. I am currently doing BS in computer technology. But I am thinking about changing it to either Data science or Cybersecurity!! What would you prefer, if it was for you? Thank you again

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  2 года назад

      Oooh that's a good questions. Both are going to do well, so I would start taking maybe both classes and see which one you naturally gravitate towards

  • @Andromedaxterr
    @Andromedaxterr 2 года назад +4

    Hi Ryan
    Great content, I really admire you.
    Do you recomment doing a bachelors degree in cyber security and then to go for the masters ? Or it is better to do a comp sc. bachelors and than the cyber sec. masters ??

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  2 года назад +2

      Hi Tamas, I appreciate it!
      I recommend doing a Bachelors Degree in Cyber Security at the minimum. I think I'll make a video explaining my view though on the masters, etc.

    • @cr7fanclub747
      @cr7fanclub747 2 года назад

      Hello!
      I am also interested is cybersec and am starting my bachelor's this year,
      Can you name some good colleges for Cybersec masters.

  • @feretiuti5096
    @feretiuti5096 2 года назад

    coffee drinking is for life 💕😍

  • @buthaynaalsharaa8195
    @buthaynaalsharaa8195 Год назад

    thanks rayan for your explanation. i would like to ask which is better cybersecurity or data science and AI degree

  • @tn7778
    @tn7778 2 года назад

    How are my chances with just a BA in criminal justice? I’m currently learning code on the side. I wouldnt mind going back to college but that would be a financial hit. The other option is bootcamp which could boost my shot if I do well. I just don’t want to waste my degree and start over..

  • @itzdeath126
    @itzdeath126 2 года назад +16

    Hey thank you for the educational video, ive got 1 year left from graduation of computer science bachelor and ive been thinking about getting into cyber security masters since im passionate about it, would you say its worth taking masters for cyber security or do i just take another route? What would you prefer ive been considering for awhile but i need a non bias answer. Thank you again

    • @RyanCrandall
      @RyanCrandall  2 года назад +4

      It's worth a Masters in Cyber Security, but I would recommend trying to find work beforehand and have a cyber security side gig/job/internship while doing it

  • @HangKevin
    @HangKevin 2 года назад +2

    What about a BSc in Computer Science and then doing MSc in Information Security?

  • @huskerflyguy79
    @huskerflyguy79 2 года назад +1

    I'm 42 years old and am a successful aircraft maintanence technician. I currently make a little over 100k a year. I have no degree only a certificate through the FAA which I learned to get in 18 months. Cyber security intrigues me. Would it be worth it for me to go into cyber security? Since I'm making over 100k right now?

  • @BACKSPIN9ball
    @BACKSPIN9ball Год назад

    As someone in IT I see both worlds am going to Go back and get a bachelor's degree and its gonna be Computer science or Computer networking and not Cyber security.
    And this is because at work(fortune 500) it feels like the Networking People are so much more needed Because they tend to double as security as well forex ample with doing things like building a vpn Tunnel and configuring a firewall.
    whereas cyber security it feels like Tools are incorporating good security components and forcing good security practices unto the users which means that the Cyber security Hype will die down than go up.
    And with COMP sci you get to create the Tools that all the other IT fields use
    so I would rank them like this and you can always learn all to be honest.
    1 Networking
    2 computer science
    3 cyber security

  • @wm9782
    @wm9782 Год назад

    i appreciate this information really helped me.Thinking of signing on to University of Central Florida for Cyber Security and wonder as a recruiter how would that do?

  • @randomnord8368
    @randomnord8368 Год назад +1

    Hey ryan, so I am 16 and really interested in cyber security. what do you think which is better for cyber security, computer science deegre or cyber security degree?

  • @Sykroid
    @Sykroid Год назад

    Dropped out of college my freshman year, and I'm looking to go back, but I am absolutely horrible at problem solving and solving rubix cubes. Should I even enter the industry in the first place?

  • @zouhairhikam3926
    @zouhairhikam3926 2 года назад +1

    Hello brother ❤️
    I'm from Morocco i was looking to do computer science bachelor but now i will do cyber security in university of Arizona online because in Morocco we don't have that here so do u recommend it to me to do cyber security at university of Arizona sir ?

  • @GeorgiaMade404706
    @GeorgiaMade404706 9 месяцев назад

    My problem is I’m in my 40s now. I was in the IT Field for over 15 years then switched careers back in 2015 after being let go from the company I was with then. I needed a job and a change so I got into Residential Construction Management since I was doing flips on the side during my time working as a Sys Admin. I currently make $100K a year as a Construction Manager but I can’t even seem to get a desktop support role now. I can’t stomach going back to school in my 40s just to make less than what I’m making now. Any advise….

  • @WannaBeProgrammer
    @WannaBeProgrammer 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for the insightful video. I was planning on going for a bachelors in CS and then Masters in cybersecurity. My reasoning is that I will transfer into my cybersecurity team at my current company and have been told the skills you get from a CS degree will set me up for a greater technical understanding and I can gain my experience from cyber on the job.
    Any thoughts??

  • @MrKirkCaptain
    @MrKirkCaptain 2 года назад +10

    One thing you said that I want to emphasize is do what you like to do! I'm going to college online, so this especially applies to me. I tried cybersecurity and didn't like it (even though I have sec+ for my job). I switched to computer science because I know coding is what I love to do.
    You said BS in cybersec and then learn to code on the side. What about BS in CS and study cybersec on the side for certs (Sec+, CISSP etc). What are your thoughts on that? I am in gov contracting and they love those certs.

    • @MagnumCarta
      @MagnumCarta 2 года назад +1

      BS in CS is also a very good option. It is more generalized and that's beneficial to a lot of jobs for new grads. Contrary to some beliefs, jobs aren't looking for people that can already do X things. They are looking for people who are quick to learn and will have a short period of time between acquiring role-specific tasks and executing those tasks well. Especially in the tech sector they are also looking for people who can think "how can we automate this or make this simpler?" which isn't something you can really just teach in school.
      School is good for building foundational understandings to make it easier to navigate through and reason a problem. So having something that showcases "I know how to interpret software, modify software, or create custom software solutions (e.g. scripts)" will be very sought after. As for certifications, if government contractors like that and that's your sphere of work, then go for it.