When Henry VIII Fell In Love With Anne Boleyn | The Lovers Who Changed History | Timeline
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- They are two of history’s most talked about figures, but how much do we really know about the ill-fated lovers? What were their real characters and motives? Why did one of them lose their head? And how did their actions change the course of history forever?
Historian, author and Tudor-expert Dr Suzannah Lipscomb will retrace the couples’ steps by visiting the places that were important to them, where their romantic, political and tragic lives were played out, and meet people today who are hell bent on finding out the truth about the Tudor love affair that changed everything forever.
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Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII
Henry and Anne
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I always low-key felt like Anne is still the one who laughed at the end . Her daughter ruled the kingdom and probably become everything Anne ever wanted
She had the last laugh
Venus Ve i wish we could know what Anne felt and thought as she saw her daughter grow up to be the greatest monarch England had ever seen
Catherine's daughter did the same..
And yet, Elisabeth was thr end of Tudors....split from church and all that debacles didn't help.....
Unfortunately she wasn't alive to know any of it.
“Low key”
Cringe
I got addicted to "The Tudors" and am now pretty much obsessed with 15th-16th century England
ny_kia31 You should read up on the house of York and the house of Lancaster. Only then can you truly understand the Tudor dynasty.
Yes, I agree! If you love the Tudors, then you will also love King Edward the Fourth and Queen Elizabeth of woodville.
Historical accuracy was nowhere to be seen in the Tudors.
ny_kia31 SAME!
I'm a huge fan of the Tudors and as well as the Starz series called The white queen and The white Princess which like The Tudors and the movie The other Boleyn girl was taken from the book series by Philipa Gregory. I've read them all and more than once because they are so interesting.
I've recently gotten into Versailles and finished watching the 3rd season this summer. I hate they aren't going to continue with more seasons.
She promised an heir and she was true to her word. She gave him one heck of an heir!
Dth
Agreed. It's a shame Henry and Anne couldn't see how well their daughter did as queen.
Un hdp.
If only Henry had realised Elizabeth was everything he could ever have wished for in an heir. She was England's greatest Queen but he was too small-minded to realise how magnificent a Queen his daughter could be
I often wonder though, would she be such a magnificent monarch, had it not been all other circumstances and obstacles surrounding her?If things played out differently, I believe she would never grow up to be so strong,independent, and determined. She had to deal with father's rejection, with accusations and traps all her life, since young age. If she had support, I believe she would never develop a skill to be a true Queen...At least that is my humble opinion
The presenter seems so genuinely excited about this topic, that you can almost grasp it. She makes the topic even more interesting than it already was
Yeah! She even seemed teary eyed when she held Anne's illustrated manuscript at the beginning.
someone who wants to be just like Anne......a bit of idolisation here and some sugar coating of the facts
yes, I found her enthusiasm really added to the story too.
I love watching her many documentaries.
The one she did about the Salem trials was amazing!
Thats kinda funny that Anne promised to give Henry a son and heir. Elizabeth may not have been a boy, but she was an heir
Elizabeth was the strangest combination of a very feminine woman and a very strong male in her personality. The joke was on Henry with anne he had made the ultamate monach.
Anne kept her promise, providing the heir. The way Henry treated both Anne and Elizabeth had everything to do with Elizabeth's choice never to marry. Elizabeth was wise and retained her power for longer than Henry did and it was the "Golden Age." I wish she did have an heir to continue the Tudor lineage, what an interesting part of history.
She did rule like a king though so he got what you asked for
It's really sad that they didn't give women the chance to shine like they do today.
@@se8750 she failed in the most important regard: no heirs.
It’s very interesting that they remind people of how good natured Henry was when he was younger. I’ve always believed that head injury played a major part in the change in personality. When my cousin was young he was thrown from a moving car. The head injury left him completely changed. He was surly, angry, and prone to explosive temper. My family insists he was never the same nice kid they had always known.
Victoria A. I agree.....the head injury was the end of Henry’s happy demeanour.
I'm also wondering about siphilis
Pt. 2 makes mention of the head injury..
Gud discovery.....but late
So many lives lost.....
I think the thing that I love most about Suzannah's style of documentary commentary is that she makes you feel as if she's discovering this subject at the same time as you. She makes you feel as if you are part of the conversation as opposed to being talked at by a much cleverer person.
Yes definitely. She's like a time machine that takes us back and drops us right into the middle of history, so much that it feels not like history but presentness, like these events are unfolding right in front of us in the here and now before our eyes. Her enthusiasm is infectious.
I’m officially addicted to these documentaries.
Me too 😊
AAAAAAHHH same!!!😩🤚🏻 it’s an addiction 🤷🏻♀️
Im truly sad we don't build beautiful places like this anymore. The castles, palaces, homes, etc... they were all so elegant and timeless.
amynicole- True, however, those houses cost a tremendous amount of money that had to come from taxes or from donations to the church in the case of those palaces held by churchmen like Hampton Court Palace that belonged to Cardinal Wolsey (which he later gave to King Henry the VIII after he had all but demanded it of him after they fell out over Wolsey's failure to procure an annulment for Henry from the Pope.)
Facts!!!!
So true!
amynicole- “We”? What “we” are we talking about? There was no “we” back then, unless you were the upper 0.1%. The majority lived in hovels
amynicole- most people today are on the dole sucking up taxpayers money! Too many foreigners taking advantage of the nation!
It took so long for Henry to divorce Katherine of Aragon, that Anne Boleyn lost her best childbearing years. And Henry and Anne were so cruel to Katherine and Mary that it is quite breathtaking. But Anne unwittingly made her own doom: she convinced Henry that he was supreme, answerable to no one whatsoever......and that made it easier for him to become even more of a tyrant than he already was.
Tina Anne Boleyn’s ambition drove her to her own destruction.
Tina based on some of the background Anne was never cruel to Mary Henry was and he continued to abaze Mary even after Anne's death. Anne tried several times to have a relationship with Mary. Mary always refused because she was loyal to her mother.
Ann was cruel to Mary. Wouldn't even allow her to refer to herself as princess. She regretted it after she learned she would be executed. Hindsight is 20/20 she knew had she been kind she might have had an alliance.
Exactly Anne isn't no better than Catherine of ARAGON.
When he was wooing Anne, Henry liked her spirited ways, but once married, he expected her to be submissive, as was Katherine of A. Anne's mistake was to challenge and confront Henry. Not a good idea at the time.
I don't understand how he could have loved her so much; yet had her beheaded!! Go figure. There's a thin line between love & hate
Narcissists tend to do that quite easily. Get a woman , do the most romantic gestures to get them, then get bored and discard them in the most cruel fashion. Henry seems to fit that description quite well.
Purple Rane because his pride amongst his countrymen and that of his dignitaries were of much more importance to him than his love for her . He “ like so many other men before him” find its much more easier to blame the female for what they perceive as faults / wrongdoing than themselves and to save face he had her beheaded . Disgusting isn’t it ? Typical male chauvinist pig 🐷 with a lot of narcissism to boot . Happens everyday. Well, not the beheading but in other and more despicable ways then of their time . At least with beheading it’s fast and more merciful than the way most men of today rid themselves of their significant others.
Anne promised him a son and had a daughter. Then she had multiple miscarriages. Also, Anne didn't understand that Henry would allow things from a mistress that he wouldn't allow from a wife. His mistress could tell him what she thought he should do but not his wife.
@@destinationmobileone5476 Henry would leave his wife regardless of Anne because of Queen's age and inability to have children, he had no use from her anymore , I am not defending Anne but Henry was the one who left Katherine and primary since she got old and the lack of male children
@@destinationmobileone5476 sorry then, my bad 😂 I tend to think it's a very complex issue , nor Anne is a saint and Henry a pig , both are to blame. What plays a perhaps crucial role in this matter is period in which it's set, we can't judge based on standards of a today's modern age, we must have in mind how things were at their era, how men especially kings were allowed to have mistresses and marriages were a matter of politics and strategy and not love, how princesses were traded between the suitable candidates without any say in the matter and many other aspects. I first judged Katherine and saw her refusal to accept his desire to remarry as a pathetic wife without any dignity, for God's sake he doesn't want you suck it up and move on , that is what I thought but given the period would she be allowed to leave him and to walk away, would her own family take her back , we don't know, after all she was sent to England as a way of a alliance between the two countries, would she be seen as a failure? And Anne by wanting to marry him chose the different path, as opposed to her own sister who was just one of many mistresses King had and apparently even called great prostitute, it is wrong for Anne to want to be more than a one of the many mistresses , again very complex issue with neither or both to blame
Like many, Anne Boleyn fascinated me because she was determined to shape her own destiny, despite the circumstances. She saw what happened to her sister as Henry's mistress and did not want that same fate. She was a woman of her times, hence a good marriage and family. Also, the king's rule was law - whatever (or whomever) he wanted - he got.
Anne boleyn is one of my favorite history to research on along with Marie Antoinette and queen Elizabeth I
Nini N. Me too. Along with Mary queen of scots
SAME!!
Nini N. Same
ANNE WAS AN EVIL, POWERHUNGRY WITCH....SHE GOT WHAT SHE DESERVED
Nancy Davis: That's just an opinion considering you weren't around then and really couldn't know. You are basing your statement purely on speculation. I don't claim to know one way or the other, but I'm dying to know...when did you meet her? I'd love to hear of the meeting with you and Anne Boleyn that proves to you she was an "evil powerhungry witch" who got what she deserved. Was it in a previous life you met her?? LMFAO *eye roll*
The casting is marvelous -handsome Henry and attractive Anne.
Jarrel Brannon and the presenter is quite naturally beautiful as well 😀
Sad he isn’t attractive her anyone she is a karma’s
I doubt anne was attractive. I mean all her paintings look terrible
@@EK-gt2xf Most paintings of that time looked odd and strange with many exaggerated features. Also, there's no official portrait of Anne. All of them were destroyed after her execution. Only a coin from 1534 exists with her face engraved on it, but even then, it's badly damaged and it doesn't give off an official presentation of her physical appearance. We can only judge and imagine her ourselves from reports of that time.
I think Henry knew damn good and well Anne was innocent. He had another woman waiting jane seymore and he had to get Anne out of the way. Another divorce was out of the question. Henry couldnt drag his personal life out in front of the public so he falsely accused Anne and had her murdered.
Yup but his son ended up dyeing very young so ironically it was Elizabeth that ruled.
I totally agree 💯
That's a really good thought! There's quite a big chance that could be true
Check out "The Fall of Anne Boleyn" by Claire Ridgeway. She makes a case that those in court who hated Anne conspired to turn Henry against her. Like a month before Anne was arrested Henry was still pushing for her to be accepted.
He had his mistress, which was normal, but Anne was his Queen.
Ultimately, she was set up by rumors and hearsay, the most serious charge being treason, which the King could not ignore.
His marriage to Jane Seymour was a good old-fashioned rebound.
Her executioner was ordered before her trial started. Pretty clear what the verdict would have been given how long it took him to travel to London from Calais.
The presenter of this documentary has such a soothing voice.
Ana Santiago right?! 😀
ya right it sounds like shes talking with marbles in her mouth
True..
True
The man playing Henry is an ungodly attractive human being.
AGREED 100 percent
finally someone said it
@@hannahthejesusgirl23 he is fine👌😁
No stop those words don’t mix well
My choice for that title would be the duke of Suffolk.
Catherine of Arragon....gotta feel sympathy for her. Even though Henry didnt technically execute her, he surely sent her to her death. He spent years trying to get rid of her, she had so many babies that died in eutero or shortly after birth, and was publicly shunned by the man she had loved for many years. She probably died of heartbreak. And Mary Boylen as well...I tend to root for the underdog.
So cool to see Henry's letters to Anne! He's a fascinating character.
Charity Smith yep
If you think about it....If Catherine of Aragon had not protested the annulment/ divorce so strongly, the Catholic Church would not have suffered the loss of the "future" millions of Church of England's members during this time period and thereafter. She was wounded and hurt but, she was also stubborn and this helped to cause the actual church break up.
@@RUclips4me Well can you blame her for protesting the annulment/ divorce. That was her husband! and her daughter was supposed to be rightfully the next in live for the throne. Henry really just did her so filthy smh I feel for the women.
No I don't blame her, not at all. It was just the sad result of her digging in with the tyrant Henry ~ it really made him go to breaking from the church. She had no idea it would cause this result. It was actually far more harm to the Catholic church than anyone realized (not even the Catholic church)
I felt like Catherine shouldn't have begged Henry to be with her, she was trying to hold on to a man that didn't want her anymore, it made her look desperate, and weak
Before being on Game of Thrones, Natalie Domer did an excellent job playing Anne Bolyen in The Tudors ... very poignant.
Both Natalie Dormer and this presenter, Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb, are beautiful women. Natalie was also great in the role of a female Professor Moriarity on the Sherlock series with Lucy Lu.
I'm binge watching Tudors now. It's a very good series, Natalie is the reason why I started watching it because I loved her character in Game of Thrones. ❤
She is my favorite Anne. I'd like to think her portrayal was the most accurate.
Natalie Dormer is nothing like any portraits of Anne.
Despite that, I think she captured her spirit the best.
Nothing says romance like an ear wax scoop.
lmao! I thought of that too hahyahah
Wonder if they worked. I can't hear out of my right ear because of stupid wax
It would win my heart, lol. But I'm kind of obsessive about my ears.
Lmaooo!! 😂😂😂
Nomad Yesmad LMAO
I'm sure he was "very good" at sports. I'm sure also that alot of people probably just let him win, because they were afraid of losing their heads or his favor and their "status" in the royal court if they outdid him..
True, but maybe he was very good. The odds are the same.
The guy was well built at 6ft4. That probably gave him an advantage
He was good at sports, but not because he always won, it was commented on because of his form and the WAY he played so gracefully and beautifully.
I think that was also a way of saying he was athletic. Before he had to stop exercising due to his injuries, he was built like a hunk because he was always playing sports and thus constantly exercising. Even if people let him win, for him to stay interested and keep active and chisel that bod, they would have still have to give him a challenge.
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Catherine failed to give him a son. Anne failed to give him a son.???
It was Henry who failed to sire a son. If you want Roses you can't be planting Daffodils!!!
It was unfortunate that this obvious fact that it was the man's seed that determined the gender, was not recognized in the olden days. What a pity.
The fact that a man's is responsible for the gender of the baby wasn't known at the time , it was discovered much later and he being a somewhat of a narcissist would never think he is also responsible, of course he would blame the women and no one dared to blame him cuz of his title being the King
And yet he and Jane Seymour had a son.
Stoker de Courcy he had one with Mary too tho🥰
@@AlexandraM689 as a biologist I assure you it's based on probability and the man does not determine the gender. We need better education clearly.
back then they knew nuts about genetics
The actress who played Anne Boleyn is gorgeous and really looks like the portrait of the doomed queen.
Lucifer Alpha I agree, she's so pretty
Actually watching this again because I just can't get enough of her.
Lucifer Alpha She reminds me of Natalie Portman
Remember though, there actually is no original portrait of Anne, Henry had them all destroyed. So its near impossible to know exactly what Anne looked like.
Sadly, except for personal descriptions of witnesses, no one knows what she truly looked like. Henry had all her images and portraits destroyed. The famous portrait was painted in the 1600's. With the exception of her enemies, she was considered striking by her admirers.
I am absolutely in love with the story of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. The very idea that Henry was willing to change the very course of history and defy the Catholic Church for Anne, only to order her execution, fascinates me.
The royals are easily manipulated. Just toss out a bit of suspicion and their imagination runs wild. If you don't suggest anything they will make something up based on fear.
And then married again like days later, I think... To Jane Seymour.
Same here. I was Anne Boleyn for Halloween and won first prize
He married Jane S 3 weeks later.
He officially became betrothed to Jane Seymour on May 20th, they married in Whitehall on May 30th. Anne was executed on May 19th, 1536 but him and Jane began "courting" before.
Damn, those letters. Like a fuckboy's sms today
Bea Savariz RIGHT 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ewww no one needs a reference to ur fuckboy
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Bea Savariz trueeeee
Bea Savariz but Henry is a fuckman
Of course people said good things about him. Who would dare to speak bad about him?
But even outsiders said good things about him...
... Fisher!
It's lovely to see a thread without people being gratuitously rude to one another. Nice one, Humanity 👍👊
I know. We should all stay away from politics and instead share our love of history
Shut up
British Internet, particularly history videos and royalty videos, is like that.
Because thick people don’t watch documentaries 🙃
What is so sad is that Catherine was said to be the most beautiful creature, she was extremely smart, but because of not having a son, and being married 20 years, he lusted over Anne, and wanted a son.
Sadly, repeated child-bearing had left Katherine heavy and older looking than her age. Henry, younger and less worn out, no longer felt attracted to her. This still happens in the 21st century...particularly if the man is wealthy/powerful.
Any documentary that suggests that Anne and Henry were "lovers" in their opening title is not credible at all and shouldn't be given any air space. Anne Boleyn was NOT his lover. Henry VIII was a narcissist and emotionally abusive monster who harrassed that woman until she had no option to give in. Today it would be called harrasment.
Suzannah Lipscomb is one of my favorite historians. When she does a show with Dan Jones I'm in heaven!!!!
This isn’t quite as sexy when you remember how terrible hygiene was back then. 🤮
Yeah must have smelled bad
Lol
@QTee yes but the sense of smell was only invented recently
@QTee I'm worried you have to ask
Wow did you guys really think that there's no water or scents back then?
Anyone else cringe when they handle the books without any gloves????
Yes!
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/what-is-the-policy-on-wearing-gloves-to-handle-documents.pdf
Wearing white gloves is usually not the best option for handling old manuscripts and books. Certain items-photographs, metal components, ivory-would merit white gloves. However, clean and dry hands are the standard protocol in archival work nowadays.
Often the documents are reproductions
In one of the previous documentaries (Plantagenets - Bloodiest Dynasty or Wars of the Roses, don't remember), the single instance I've seen Dan Jones handling a document in gloves, was when he was in France. Probably there's a different approach to that matter across the Channel, or on the Continent altogether. And I guess, French surely have as vast amount of historic material to take care of as British.
No, it is a misconception that rare old books are most properly handled with gloves. Gloves can actually do more harm than good as they remove deterity and can result in torn pages. It is generally recommended that the books be handled with freshly washed but thoroughly dried hands. The oils and acids on our skin will not deteriorate the books any further as those things have already been introduced when the books were originally handled. The rare books collection doesn't have a parade of people going in and out every day, they are not handled that often so the amounts introduced over the years are really negligible. Most of these books aren't as fragile as you believe they are, most damage comes from improper storage such as exposure to high humidity. Now if the books are already in bad shape then the librarian may decide to limit or even completely prohibit handling except by special permission.
Beautiful storytelling, the presenter is extraordinary, this doc made me love history even more.
Beautifully documented and the actors who have portrayed the characters do complete justice to their roles
Great documentary! Now that I think about it, I’m surprised they didn’t mention Anne’s previous engagement (and anger when Henry broke them apart)
Exactly. He was enamored by her as early as 1523. Wolseys servant talked about this in great length about Henry being the one that had a secret passion for her and broke the engagement up with her and Percy.
I think Anne was at best offended, perhaps heartbroken, when Henry stopped her marriage to Harry(Hotspur)Percy, and she in a naive way, decided to rebel and resist him. In addition she had the example of her sister Mary as a warning not to be the king’s mistress. In the end she boxed herself into an impossible situation. I’ve seen research that she even tried to become a nun instead.
It’s interesting that the “charges” against her were both so far fetched and yet were obviously designed to give him a revulsion toward her. You can imagine the writers saying to each other,” It’s not enough. Adultery? With only 1 or 2? She’ll bamboozle him into forgiving her. Let’s make it 4, and make it incest. He CAN’T forgive that”. Remember too the accusation of witchcraft which was a subject of horror and extreme fear. And the charges were made at a time when he was starting to be disillusioned with her, the first flush of romance was over and he was definitely middle aged.
It’s perhaps an irony, but I’ve always thought it admirable Henry didn’t arrange for Catherine’s death. It also must have been clear to his supporters that he would not even condone it. And yet it would have been so simple. And in fact, the only wives he caused to have executed were, at least provably to him, aldultresses, which was an accusation that threatened the stability of the crown.
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The actor they've chosen for Henry is ridiculously good looking! As handsome as all those reports give him credit for
There are other verses that state a brother should marry his brothers widowed wife to carry on the name of the deceased brother. People can take the bible out of context to suit their desires and not those of God.
Indeed they are in Deuteronomy, and they actually take precedence over Leviticus, if I am not mistaken
yes, Scripture can be quoted to suit one's means...I forget whose quote that is.
You are correct the bible talks about brothers marrying there deceased brothers wife also cousins close cousins. It was a way for a family to protect the widows.
The bible can be read and used in many ways both good and evil. it depends on the readers intentions.
Walter Smith been happening forever and by everyone who seeks power and greed lol nothing new here
I clicked for Dr suzannah and stayed for the storytelling. I always zone out during history but she always makes things interesting and her voice is so calming.
Dr Suzannah Lipscomb is fantastic. I've loved every documentary I've seen her in!
Europe hated Henry's break from Rome and tried to overturn it. Brexit of the 16th century.
Robert Armitage except the EU is not a religion
The name of the game is power and control. It was then, it is now.
Well, I doubt that "Europe" hates the British, now. There... I said British, which is a strange word enough, for there are Scots, who are SCOTTISH not British and the very divided concept of "the British" seems to hate itself. Young people who are againts the Brexit, Scotland (against the Brexit) and a "Liar failing her Game of Thrones". Sure back then it was Rome against Henry with lots of European courts sharpening their knives but right now the European people don't hate "the British".
Why should the term British be strange?
Henry and England were not hated.They were just a bip on the radar of the real powers, King Francis I of France and Emperor Charles V.
To be hated you need more clout than what Henry had.
Beautiful documentary... I always wanted to know more about those two.
"the other boylan girl" (?) is what started me on my path towards their history....don't think i even realized when i bought the movie.....it was based on true.....and i've been hooked every since.....young victoria is another good, good movie.....
Totally agree! The other Boleyn girl was what introduced the tudors to me as well and have been since. Love the young Victoria movie as well, it’s one of my favorites!
s21972012145525 You should watch ‘Anne of a Thousand Days’ with Richard Burton and Genevieve Bujold. It is very well done.
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Great documentary on the romance that changed the fate and history of a nation! Anne Boleyn is one of my favorite of the six wives. I have always admired her intelligence, determination and courage. A tragedy she was unable to give Henry the heir he craved and that her enemies were able to unseat her.
HistoryLover1550 And it was a blessing for England that she produced Elizabeth.
Elizabeth was far from perfect (no monarch is), and she was very cruel to the Irish (what English monarch wasn’t?), but she was a great monarch. Elizabeth I is a contender for “England’s Greatest King.”
The greatest gift she gave him was Elizabeth.
HistoryLover1550 she was cruel to Mary though
@@f.m.m6706 Claire Ridgway has an excellent video on that very topic search was Anne Boleyn a good stepmother I believe in RUclips
Anne is my least favorite she was a homewrecker and celebrated the death of the rightful Queen. She got what she had coming. She made Henry believe he answered to noone so... When he wanted a new wife he took care of the problem.
i think the love between henry&anne was pretty serious until his disappointment towards anne because she failed to gave him a son. i believe the accusations were all false, especially the incest thing. anne was hated by many people in court, and don't forget how ambitious her father was. so many people wanted to see the boleyn's downfall. I mean, in that era, once you had accused on something, with so many tortures, whether you were guilty or not, they will tortured you so bad and you finally confessed guilty with a hope that they would released you from pain, alive or death. But for what i want to believe that henry had loved anne very much, he even broke with rome (causing his country in a great danger at that time by breaking up with rome) and wanted to wait for 7 years just to marry Anne Boleyn.
Henry knew she was innocent. He was desperate for a son.
Also nobility were not tortured..their link to getting to Anne was Mark Smeaton. The dancing master.
He loved his stance of King the most. He was infatuated with the notion that having a son was the begining and end to his legacy he couldn't have dreamed that after his death, Both of his daughters would rule England. He caused great sin onvhimself, changed from a fair, good king/person into a monster. He couldn't believe or condone a England ruled by women, Andvitvwas.
The actress playing Anne is stunning, I could see a guy going crazy over her. Too many ads on this video need to find an ad blocker.
BTW the actor playing Henry is handsome and he would have been a better Henry than Jonathan Rhys Myers.
She kinda looks like the girl who plays Dexter's sister on Dexter. But ditto on the actor playing Henry.
LyricalXilence I haven’t come across one ad in the entire documentary and I don’t use an ad blocker. I’m always wondering why that is when I come across comments like yours when I never see the ads myself. Just curious 🤷♀️
The girl playing Anne is average looking. Natalie Dormer is gorgeous! So is Jonathan Rhys Meyers!
This video has ads all throughout it for me.
if i had it to do again----i would have lived my adult life in europe and wallowed in their ruins, and history and old castles....while she's telling the story.....i'm wanderin' around in the back round.....marveling in walls, art, furniture, paintings even the fireplaces where NOT just fireplaces.......love that they STILL have all these priceless documents and what seems like every last piece of what makes them.......them. wow....
Normally I don't comment on people's looks, but the documentarian's eyes are beautiful. They're blue in one shot, grey in another, and lavender in the shots where they try to be both blue and grey. Most people need contacts to achieve that (unless you're Benedict Cumberbatch and have legitimate heterochromia). The documentary is good, and the first I've seen to actually go to Anne Bolyn's home and let you see just how small "grand" bedrooms used to be :P
her hair is to die for-----maybe in my next life------
debi sybesma you could have it too. It’s not naturally curly.
She's so pretty 😭😭💖
My eyes are like that. They shift between bright, light blue, dark blue, green, and grey. It’s weird. They can look completely different in different shots! Sometimes people will go to me, “Were your eyes always that colour?” Lol.
132allie It is naturally curly.
Definitely one of my favorites, very well documented! Can't wait for part 2!
Studied as a classical archeologist, it always puts a knot in my stomach to see such valuable manuscripts handled without protective cotton gloves. A minor point and vellum is incredibly durable, but the ink and paints/stains used are subject to wear and destruction if handled. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Suzannah wear gloves in any of her documentaries. Other than this possibly minor point, I do enjoy Timeline documentaries.
Vellum paper must be tough
The ability to touch the very paper Anne touched makes it real. I'm in awe.
Right?? I’m a historian (a classicist), and I’m currently receiving archival training. It makes me cringe every single time.
@@heyitssarah7545 absolutely - like watching an archeology documentary and seeing “trained professionals” hacking at a piece of dirt with their trowels instead of shaving off a thin layer at a time. Trowels usually don’t come sharpened so you have to keep the edge razor sharp yourself. Just like I’m sure you are learning how to adapt tools to fit your needs as you restore a piece, whatever our chosen vocation a big part of success is adaptability.
I love how th commentator is so passionate about Anne, and can see in her eyes sometimes all emotions she had! would love to tour this place with the commentator while seeking so much from her knowledge of history
God watching Henry 8th, laughs and says “hold my heavenly beer. I’m going to make England 🏴 the land of QUEENS.” 👑
That terrible accident changed Henrys life . His brain was probably damaged and he was in severe pain most of the time . There wasnt the medical knowledge back then . He was also under intense pressure trying to keep the kingdom together . He had such rotten luck on all levels .... go figure ..
Anne Tahunanui Claire Ridgeway has a great video (she is a Tudor historian specializing in Anne B) where she explains that the big deal made out of Henry’s “head injury “ is false. All the contemporary documents of the time never even mention that Henry was unconscious at all. That the injury was no big deal . The so called account of him being injured so badly wasn’t even mentioned until years after his death.
His corpse exploded too and maggots came out
Only one thing to say on that...Woodville curse. I know it's just hearsay but the luck of not only Henry the 7th after he took the throne and then Arthur, followed by Henry....I mean DAMN..... that is either the worst case of genetic bad luck or a curse. Its a shame too..... he wanted so desperately to be remembered did being great.... humanitarian....etc.
I feel like syphilis was a pretty big nail in the coffin.
Some become very angry and it changes their personality. But I think attitudes towards women was they are disposable baby makers and he thought he failed his duty if he had no male air , it was an obsession
It's kind of tragically ironic how in a way, his Brother's death by sudden illness at 15, would be repeated in the death of Henry's one and only son. Arthur, the most forgotten Tudor of all, was effectively the foreshadowing of Henry's own legacy.
Henry was making things up that Leviticus said to suit himself. It clearly says in Deuteronomy 25:5 that you should marry your brothers widow.
Mary Rachelle C guess that is just how humans are even before. Taking things personally, is why we get offended so easily
Henry didn’t make anything up. It does say in Leviticus that it is wrong to bed your brother’s wife (or “uncover her nakedness”), and that doing so is like going to bed with your brother (or “uncovering his nakedness”). This documentary even shows you the passages! The problem is that the Bible is full of contradictory, nonsensical, unethical, pseudoscientific, and ambiguous verses, so it can be interpreted however any one wants to interpret it. That’s exactly why there are so many different Christian sects (and even Abrahamic sects!), and beliefs.
@@justanotherhappyhumanist8832 in that passage its talking about cheating with your brothers wife not when the brother is dead
Chris Moeller Well, when you get down to it, the Bible is the MOST edited book in history. So many different authors, editors and producers, there are bound to be several contradictions.
I'm watching this video not only because I like the story of Henry and Anne (loved the Tudors tv show), but also I like Dr. Lipscomb.
With Henry's fire and will and Anne bolyns patience and determination combined created one of the greatest rulers in history.
soooooo interesting!! the lady hosting the show is perfect for these historical shows/vidoes
i love this timeline era cant get enough
something needs to be done to protect them books 😵
I absolutely enjoyed the first part of this series and will be watching the second part now! Thank you so much for uploading this 👍😀👍
Aw the joys of finding new specials on this topic
"A Tudor court was a heady mix of politics and theater." There's a difference?
I've been hooked with Henry and Anne's story. Surely, a man will make every effort, crush people and will do everything just to sleep with a woman and to leave him when he's done. Man indeed has literally a HISTORY about these things. And Anne is very ambitious too, her ambitions led her to her death.
I wish Anne wuld´ve stayed at France. She would´ve been happier and perhaps lived longer
Definitely
But never would have made history.......Elizabeth 1
"Draws a love heart and puts AB in the middle" awwww
I love it when the person presenting the documentary is just as excited and intrigued as I am. This is fantastic, I'm glad I came across this video.
This is my favorite documentary actress for Anne by far.
why they dont wear gloves with aii this old bookes?
Itzik Habush I'm pretty sure she just takes them off to film the short parts, and she barely touches them if you watch closly, I think they put in different footage to make it look as though it's the same book.
Itzik Habush because most have decided now that gloves do more damage to old books than your hands do, you cannot accurately judge how fragile the paper is, cannot grip the page properly etc. Places like the National Archives just make you wash your hands beforehand instead
cubomania3 you don’t really wear gloves anymore. I’m a history student and gloves were never required when ive been to various museum archives.
*books
That's a misconception, handling rare old books with gloves is something mainly only done in movies to convey to the audience that the book is indeed old & rare. However, librarians generally recommend that rare old books are best handled with clean dry hands. As another poster said, gloves can do more harm than good because they remove dexterity and can result in torn pages. These books are not handled that often so the addition of the tiny amount of acid & oils from skin is negligible, plus those things have already been introduced to the books, any damage that would cause has already been done. What actually causes the most damage is improper storage such as allowing the book to become exposed to moisture. If the book is already in bad condition then the librarian may choose to limit or even prohibit handling except by special permission.
I think it's amazing that all of Henry's children that survived childhood ruled England
I remember going to Hever castle for history school trip and it was so much fun. Walking around I was so excited to know this is the place where she lived, this is where she grew up, knowing that Henry viii also stayed there, it felt like history coming alive and all I was thinking was if only these walls could speak what would they say? I also sat on Henry viii bed, it wasn’t allowed, be I couldn’t help myself lol. And secretly touched her pray book it was so thrilling.
I've always been obsessed with castles and mid evil times. I would swear in my past life i lived in a castle......if I believed in past lives that is.
The actresses never do the clothes right. Women didn't lift there skirts when they walked as that would have exposed there ankles and been considered obscene. Instead they did a side swishing movement with there legs to move the skirt out of the way of their feet.
Stacey Vermilyea who cares? Why do people always feel the need to impose their vast and valuable knowledge no one else really cares about other than themselves ? What is this need to inject their wisdom of details that are of no serious importance to the program except other than to make themselves feel important? Never did quite understand this. It’s a documentary and the actress is being directed by none other than the (director) I’m sure they felt that getting out the more important information in the short time span they had was of more relevance then whether or not the skirt was raised or not or exactly how many inches lifted don’t you agree ?
Also I wonder, how many of these highly knowledgeable people were actually there to witness this skirt dilemma rather than have read it which in and of itself is purely speculative on the part of reader or writer or perhaps have seen it in another documentary or television series/ program which again is only speculative. Hmmm I wonder.
Louise Reeves maybe she was there? Her variations on the spelling of their/there are certainly in keeping with English of the period.
Nonsense. The ankle taboo is a much later convention. There was even a fashion in Tudor England for women to wear dresses so low cut as to completely expose their breasts, nipples and all. The French ambassador was once greeted by Elizabeth herself in that manner. He wrote about it. Context was key, but generally speaking showing a bit of ankle was no big deal.
I can appreciate getting a portrayal as accurate as possible.
As such it's ironic ,that you twice use "there",when the correct word is "their".☺
You don’t need gloves to handle items. The preferable option is just your hands. Gloves can cause more damage than your skin. Old books and documents need proper storage to be able to survive.
Anne Boleyn is one of my ancestors. She's been one of my favorite historical figures for nearly my whole life. I would hold that book without gloves, for sure.
“Grew up in the French court, wee wee, bonjour, life was a chore so..”
she set sail.
He wanted me, huh, obviously
Messaging me like everyday
Couldn't be better, then he sent me a letter and who am I kidding
I was prêt-à-manger
Oh oh, sent a reply. Oh oh, just sayin’ “hi”. Oh oh, you’re a nice guy, I’ll think about maybe. XO baby.
UH OH
YOU SENT HIM KISSES?!
I DIDN'T KNOW I WOULD BE MOVING IN WITH HIS MISSES
WOT?
GET A LIFE.
YOU'RE LIVING WITH HIS WIFE?
LIKE WHAT WAS I MEANT TO DO??
Sorry not sorry bout what I said!
I’m just tryin’ to have sum fun
Don’t worry, don’t worry, don’t lose ur head,
I didn’t meant to hurt anyone.
It's so impressive how well preserved Hever Castle has been kept for so many centuries:)The presenter is incredibly lucky to be given access to the inside.
it is open to the public
The guy who plays Henry in this is so drop dead gorgeous like wow 😍😍😍
I wish we could have more on Mary Boleyn .
Victoria Elizabeth ....I don't think a lot is known about Mary...they would have to make things up to tell a story about her
Aileen McMillan .... I know. She is my tenth grandmother ... Iv looked for many years to find more on her ..maybe in the future we could be blessed with more about her life 🙋
There is very little information on the Boleyns other than Anne (and still that was not much), as she was demonised (litterally) and contemporary details of her life suppressed until the reign of her daughter.
Elizabeth did protect and promote the interests of Mary's descendents, but only after she was on power. Only then did Mary's son receive the Boleyn inheritance that had been mostly sequestered.
Little is known about her. I do know that she had two husbands, one before Anne married Henry (he died and left her poor due to debts), and one while Anne was married to Henry, which was documented in "Tudors" with a good level of accuracy. Like in the show, she was banished from court after marrying a poor man for love. All that is known after her banishment is that there was never any communication, that she never visited Anne or any relatives after they were arrested, and that she died in her 40s.
Victoria Elizabeth Read the. book The Boylan Girls....the movie was nothing like the book and what PG did was tell. the story through the eyes Mary
Anne wore an English gable hood and an ermine mantle to prove she died as an English queen.
Also, H VIII sought and received a Papal dispensation in order to marry Katherine of Aragon; he then expected it to be reversed???
Yes and yes. He claimed the dispensation was not legitimate because it was in direct conflict with the scripture. It was actually really common back then for popes to do favours for monarchs and undue the decisions of the previous popes.
There was a legal case for the dispensation to be invalid. If the marriage between Arthur and Katherine had been consumated, the dispensation (who had been made in a hurry) had legal flaws. If the marriage was not consumated, a dispensation was the wrong legal document (it needed a declaration of Public Honesty to be issued right after the death of Arthur).
Henry's problem, other than Emperor Charles V having the Pope under his thumb, was his own arrogance. Instead of quibbling legal details, he set out to prove that he knew better than the Pope what was legal to dispense, so he offended many people in the Curia.
Also, the Pope gave him a solution in private: Marry Anne without annulment and wait until the political situation changes and I can legalise the annulment and legitimise the children, but Henry was again too arrogant to accept the pragmatic approach.
Alma 17 Thank you for posting this. This is highly interesting.
How early in H VIII's history was the dissolution of the Church's holdings planned? I know there talk about it during the reign of H II.
Yes, he wanted it reversed. He expected Wolsey (who practically ran the country) to handle it, but Wolsey failed, so Henry, with Anne's help, made himself head of the Church of England, breaking with Rome, who excommunicated him. Later,, Henry had the marriage to Anne annulled, saying they were never truly married, so how could she have (supposedly) committed adultery? Henry was tired of Anne and smitten with Jane Seymour. He told Thomas Cromwell to get rid of her. So Cromwell framed 4 of Henry's closest friends as well as poor Mark Smeaton.
Henry: What is the most romantic gift to give to someone I love...
Nobody:
Henry: EAR WAX SCOOP
Amelia 🤣🤣🤣 that’s what I was thinking!!!! What a charmer!!
INTERESTING THERE ARE SIX DEAD HEADS LAYING THERE WHERE SHE WROTE 'THE TIME WILL COME I ANNE BOYLEN' like she knew her end as a wife of Henry, like all his other 5 wives.
3 of Henry’s wife’s survived. He only beheaded Anne, Catherine, and Jane died of childbirth.
Oh mah guddddd
She actually did prophesies her own downfall....so you could be right....maybe she had some foresight...we will never know.
This documentary actually sparked my interest in the actress who plays Anne Boleyn, Emma Connell. I hope we get to see her in feature films or TV shows in the coming years!
I wonder if Anne ever, even once, considered Katherine of Aragon's feelings???
It might have been in the back of her mind but it mostly falls on the man who ultimately had an obsession with having more than one son.
@@kacigilmer7301 True. The ultimate responsibility always lies with Henry, but she didn't help. I admire Anne's courage and intelligence, but I don't like how she treated Mary and celebrated KOA's death and burial. Jane Seymour wasn't much better. Mistresses stepping over their queen's bodies seemed to be the norm but Henry was always the driving force behind them. No doubt.
Honestly, society has been putting women against each other for centuries and Henry was a prime example of why the issue kept occurring.
I'll bet she was thinking about Katherine when she BECAME her !
@@leanie9660 No doubt!
"He was very tall, he was 6'2" when the average height was 5' 7 1/2"."
I'm pretty sure that's still considered to be very tall and that's still the height of most people tho... 😂😂😂
Not for men - 5’7” is rather short
I just remembered the curse of the woodvilles in the white queen.
It’s incredible how a medieval love story can become a career of a modern individual (and my obsession)
Fabulous vid!! TY informative & beautiful architecture. One had to be in really good shape to just walk the court
I never could figure out WHY he had SO MANY ILLICIT AFFAIRS if he wanted and needed a LEGITIMATE HEIR!?
His lustful
Because he was the king and they can get away with murder I'd they did it right.
Agree!
@Moon Dance I completely agree. The fact was in that time it was expected that the King had affairs... He was the 👑 of England... However you have a huge point. Seems he would/should have put more effort into securing that heir than being a giant brat when he couldnt get his way.... Kings will be Kings - or is it men will be men?? Lol.. Thats just a joke people 😉😛😀
Patricia Busch no , I disagree. No disrespect but I think it was just him being a man and doing what all men have done from the beginning. Sad but true. Lustful greed and in his case power and monetary greed as well. Nothing new🤗
from hamilton to henry the eight’s six wives
please let there be more musicals like them
I think it seems reasonable that Anne could not write to Henry to answer his letters during her illness at Hevre Castle with the sweating sickness. She was quite ill and would not have felt well enough to write to him. Also, had she felt up to writing him, it would not have been safe for Henry to handle her letters because, in doing so, he may have been infected by the illness himself.
How ironic she died accused of having affair while the King himself was married when they first met.
these actors are so great i just really need a full on series from them! please make it happen
25:30 Tudor era screenshots lol The Vatican kept receipts!
My only irk with this doc is the complete writing off of Mary Boleyn. Her and Henry didn't have a short fling. They were together for 5 years. Her told oldest children are Henry's. To the point where contemporaries would comment how much they looked like their 'not'-dad Henry.
The presenter is beautiful.
Said Toshimaru I was just thinking the same thing. She has such a unique beauty that really stands out . Absolutely gorgeous in my opinion. She’s also very feminine and softly spoken. I wouldn’t usually notice women but there are some like this presenter that you just can’t help but notice. Any woman who says otherwise truly doesn’t see it or is just envious 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤷♀️
@@LuisaD93 Her name is Suzannah Lipscomb
Beautifull and single!
Dr. Suzannah Lipscomb
Yes shes gorgeous
This is the best documentary on this subject I have ever seen.
The actor playing the young, virile Henry is HOT.
Everyone in this documentary is hella attractive
the presenter can get it. in every which way
@@for.tax.reasons I think he's kind of creepy
Init
I quite agree😁👌
How much older was Catherine of Aragon than King Henry 8th? In "The Tudors" much older Cathrine was shown and young Henry (23 or 25) years old. But I think that they were only 6 or 7 years apart in age in a real history. Just wondering..
Yes she was seven years older
I think they were married at 18 and 25, roughly
This is the most accurate representation of Anne Boleyn that I have ever seen. So pleasant to see!
As usual, they have the Bible references wrong. Leviticus does not apply here. This is covered under Deut 25:5-10, i.e., if a brother dies without heir, his brother shall take her for his wife. Henry's brother died without issue and he married his brother's widow in keeping with the OT law. The more important issue is that neither carries weight because they are out of the OT and not bound by it.
It’s all nonsense in the bible
As usual, people cherry-pick what they want from the Bible to prove their point
And, once again, the Bible contradicts itself