I do have mixed feelings for this update though I’m more against it. Games will suddenly be very different and luck factor will be even bigger since it depends also on how many advanced roles are on your side and against you
So far I have not noticed many problems in terms of balance, but might change when more experienced players with a lot of perks are in games with beginners.
Especially since many advanced roles are a lot more op than the others, like mortician is much better than detective because you are guaranteed to find an evil role, unlike detective, where you might not find one.
@@cclockwize finding good roles also helps + mortician is more like sheriff: the info is rather soft. I think there are some really good examples of what you mean, but Mortician vs Detective is one of the ones I think are more balanced than let's say Canni vs SK.
actually the way they did advanced basically allows you to predict someone's role: since its required to have 4 rare cards just to get one epic, advanced roles are something only players usually level 30 or higher would have, so you can easily use skin/level targetting and possibly perfectly predict a player's role. Once when I was doc I saw gunner ig, I saw 3 was very high level so I protected 3 and... you guessed it... 3 was gunner.
1. Viewing voting history is good for players to start reading players by voting patterns 2. Analyst, mortican and trapper are too OP. I hate trapper the most as it is totally a piece of krap which is 'I protect everyone'. The win of ww is easily reverted with this role. 3. Werewolf fan is the worse version of cursed and I don't see any point of creating this role. It will be easily eliminated when ww fan is checked with a ww/ checked as evil. 4. Warden is a good role who have issues on making decisions but it is just a half marksman. It is a protective role more than a village killer. If the jailed villager is not sharp enough, then jailer is better here. 5. Voodoo ww is OP. Let's not mention muting informer first. It is unfair for rk since the rk can be muted for twice and nightmared for once at most in late game, rk can hardly balance the vote power. Nightmare ww is really enough to ensure the win of ww in late game when rk is in game. This encourages players not to plan the usage of abilities meticulously. 6. Instigator is the better version of cupid. The only question I would like to know why it can be killed sometimes but sometimes not. 7. Sorcerer's aura update is for cowards who never fake. It should be changed back to evil. It is as terrible as trickerstar ww. Ww players should stop relying on info to win and start faking some roles. 8. Night Watchman should not exist. It reduces the faking space for evils as the watchman reveals what role protects. Conclusion: New contenders of role contest are really inconsiderate to the balance of the game.
Suggest role: Terrorist Advanced role of Serial Killer Each night you can choose a player to scare them, they can’t talk and vote the next day, can’t use their ability the next night and will die the second day Elder Werewolf (Advanced role of Alpha Werewolf) You’re a werewolf with 2 live Healer (Advanced role of Doctor) Each night you can choose a player to take care of them, they will survive if attacked. The first time you got lynched by village or killed by solo killer/ werewolf you will use your ability and save yourself but after that you can’t save someone esle until the game ends Sorter (Advanced role of Aura Seer) Each night you can choose a player to see if they in the list of rrv,rsv,rww,rk or rv Checker (Advanced role of Seer) Each night, choose at most 3 player to see how many werewolf/solo killer in them. If all of them are ww/solo killer the you will die the next night. If all of them are part of the village/solo voting then you can’t talk and vote the next day
I also have fanmade role: 1.Sor-seer Name: check At night you can check one player if the are not killer they will not die if they are the killer they will die Aura: Good Team:Villager 2.Evil corrupt player Name: Kill At night kill one player. If they are ww or solo voting they will die if they are villager they will die and the Evil corrupt player will be a normal villager Aura: Unk Team: Solo or villager 3. Werewolf hunter You have to vote 2 ww to win if they are villager or solo you will died too Aura: Good Team: Villager
Now I realize that this is a terrible update, bad werewolf icons, overpowered roles, luck-based games and also it just wants you to buy in-game features using real money! Do you agree with me?
have you heard about the tactics when there is 1 known fool on which the outcome of the game depends, then we vote for the fool according to this tactic
Couple things you might want to know about this update 1. Veteran role gift is bugged i have 20 games with canni but it says i cant get it with the gift (this happens with some ohter roles but as far as i know its completely visual) 2. Getting legendary cards is realy expensive and takes 27 or 60 cards im not sure lots of debate but 27 is already allot 3. Allot of new bugs like allot 4.this isnt realy important but for some reason seer aprentice is an advanced role of bodyguard lol
I don't get advance roles Is there only one advance role allowed to get when there two advance role in one card like for example Red lady has 2 advance roles GL and Sheriff Do I only get one of those I one card or do I get those 2 roles in one card?
You only get one of them, much like how the other perks are also random and only up to 4. So if you want to have both advanced roles, you need two cards with different advanced role.
This new update is wack. I can't tell if this game is going down a bad path because some of the advanced roles are straight up stronger versions of old roles like mortician, analyst etc. That, or I am just experiencing recency bias. We'll see how this turns out
Nah wtf this update is absolutely awful, its literally just making the game way way way worse for new players, its taking me ages to even get the 5 cards for veteran bonus. The makes of the game just got greedy and wanted to get some money and they designed this cashgrab.
I do have mixed feelings for this update though I’m more against it. Games will suddenly be very different and luck factor will be even bigger since it depends also on how many advanced roles are on your side and against you
So far I have not noticed many problems in terms of balance, but might change when more experienced players with a lot of perks are in games with beginners.
Especially since many advanced roles are a lot more op than the others, like mortician is much better than detective because you are guaranteed to find an evil role, unlike detective, where you might not find one.
@@cclockwize finding good roles also helps + mortician is more like sheriff: the info is rather soft. I think there are some really good examples of what you mean, but Mortician vs Detective is one of the ones I think are more balanced than let's say Canni vs SK.
@@hypostein I see, well who knows how the balance might change
I definitely agree with all of this
17 new roles
-split wolf
-vigilante
-preacher
-evil detective
-ghost lady
-baker
-wolf trickster
-ritualist
-mortician
-warden
-night watchman
-trapper
-instigator
-stubborn werewolf
-analyst
-voodoo werewolf
-keymaker (maybe)
You forgot werewolf fan
Ty
actually the way they did advanced basically allows you to predict someone's role:
since its required to have 4 rare cards just to get one epic, advanced roles are something only players usually level 30 or higher would have, so you can easily use skin/level targetting and possibly perfectly predict a player's role. Once when I was doc I saw gunner ig, I saw 3 was very high level so I protected 3 and... you guessed it... 3 was gunner.
1. Viewing voting history is good for players to start reading players by voting patterns
2. Analyst, mortican and trapper are too OP. I hate trapper the most as it is totally a piece of krap which is 'I protect everyone'. The win of ww is easily reverted with this role.
3. Werewolf fan is the worse version of cursed and I don't see any point of creating this role. It will be easily eliminated when ww fan is checked with a ww/ checked as evil.
4. Warden is a good role who have issues on making decisions but it is just a half marksman. It is a protective role more than a village killer. If the jailed villager is not sharp enough, then jailer is better here.
5. Voodoo ww is OP. Let's not mention muting informer first. It is unfair for rk since the rk can be muted for twice and nightmared for once at most in late game, rk can hardly balance the vote power. Nightmare ww is really enough to ensure the win of ww in late game when rk is in game. This encourages players not to plan the usage of abilities meticulously.
6. Instigator is the better version of cupid. The only question I would like to know why it can be killed sometimes but sometimes not.
7. Sorcerer's aura update is for cowards who never fake. It should be changed back to evil. It is as terrible as trickerstar ww. Ww players should stop relying on info to win and start faking some roles.
8. Night Watchman should not exist. It reduces the faking space for evils as the watchman reveals what role protects.
Conclusion: New contenders of role contest are really inconsiderate to the balance of the game.
Also when you're unturned cursed you can win with village but with werewolf fan you can't, i agree that werewolf fan is a worse version of cursed
Suggest role: Terrorist
Advanced role of Serial Killer
Each night you can choose a player to scare them, they can’t talk and vote the next day, can’t use their ability the next night and will die the second day
Elder Werewolf (Advanced role of Alpha Werewolf)
You’re a werewolf with 2 live
Healer (Advanced role of Doctor)
Each night you can choose a player to take care of them, they will survive if attacked. The first time you got lynched by village or killed by solo killer/ werewolf you will use your ability and save yourself but after that you can’t save someone esle until the game ends
Sorter (Advanced role of Aura Seer)
Each night you can choose a player to see if they in the list of rrv,rsv,rww,rk or rv
Checker (Advanced role of Seer)
Each night, choose at most 3 player to see how many werewolf/solo killer in them. If all of them are ww/solo killer the you will die the next night. If all of them are part of the village/solo voting then you can’t talk and vote the next day
The Terrorist weak asf basically a sk that kill slower
Elder werewolf is buffed stubborn w
Sorter is way stronger than aura
Checker is unbalanced and way stronger than seer especially if med alive
this update, to be honest, is really cool, brought a breath of fresh air to the game.
Funny how this update is perceived in really good and bad ways. Looking at the other comments, I see a lot of negativity too.
I like it as it finally made me interested again after 3 years
I also have fanmade role:
1.Sor-seer
Name: check
At night you can check one player if the are not killer they will not die
if they are the killer they will die
Aura: Good
Team:Villager
2.Evil corrupt player
Name: Kill
At night kill one player. If they are ww or solo voting they will die if they are villager they will die and the Evil corrupt player will be a normal villager
Aura: Unk
Team: Solo or villager
3. Werewolf hunter
You have to vote 2 ww to win if they are villager or solo you will died too
Aura: Good
Team: Villager
Now I realize that this is a terrible update, bad werewolf icons, overpowered roles, luck-based games and also it just wants you to buy in-game features using real money! Do you agree with me?
I am in between. I like concepts, but I really don't like that people with cards get some in-game advantages.
I miss Fortune Teller :c
have you heard about the tactics when there is 1 known fool on which the outcome of the game depends, then we vote for the fool according to this tactic
I don't see how that works. It really depends on how many villagers/solos/werewolves are alive
Let's see what's new.
Couple things you might want to know about this update
1. Veteran role gift is bugged i have 20 games with canni but it says i cant get it with the gift (this happens with some ohter roles but as far as i know its completely visual)
2. Getting legendary cards is realy expensive and takes 27 or 60 cards im not sure lots of debate but 27 is already allot
3. Allot of new bugs like allot
4.this isnt realy important but for some reason seer aprentice is an advanced role of bodyguard lol
Wait that last thing is funny af
Yeah why is seer app related to bodyguard
I don't get advance roles
Is there only one advance role allowed to get when there two advance role in one card like for example
Red lady has 2 advance roles GL and Sheriff
Do I only get one of those I one card or do I get those 2 roles in one card?
You only get one of them, much like how the other perks are also random and only up to 4.
So if you want to have both advanced roles, you need two cards with different advanced role.
@@hypostein I got extremely unlucky with red lady I got sheriff :( I wanted ghost lady since that one is more fun and easier to use.
Does this mean that for the next wolvesville role contest we are gonna have to make them Basic or advanced roles to other roles?
Yes probably
bruh sl is already weak enough
if you kill the sl, the whole sect begone
I think sect leader is already fairly balanced, this change might be good for those boring endgames
@@hypostein ur a pro, these changes might not affect you
Hey hypostein where do people make their Fanmade roles is it on discord? if yes where can i join
The official tournament happens in the official Discord server of Wolvesville. You can join that through the game.
do you think zombies are still unbalanced after balanced edits?
Haven't really thought about it yet
yessir
im speed
anyway this update is prob gonna be good on the long run i think
i love this update so much.Can u play as
Stubborn werewolf, hypostein
Not as long as I don't have the card for it
@@hypostein ok
This new update is wack. I can't tell if this game is going down a bad path because some of the advanced roles are straight up stronger versions of old roles like mortician, analyst etc. That, or I am just experiencing recency bias. We'll see how this turns out
Ye some advanced roles are not balanced well with their base roles
anyone seen the disguise wolf before? I have seen it one time only😀
Wolf trickster?
@@hypostein no
forgot the description, kinda like each night select a player to swap roles or something
@@berserkscribe only wolf trickster can do that
Hi hypostein i new subscriber
thank you for subscribing! ❤
Hypo, why i doesnt get the update?
You might need to go to appstore/Google play and update it there
@@hyposteinim actually now get the update this day
Nah wtf this update is absolutely awful, its literally just making the game way way way worse for new players, its taking me ages to even get the 5 cards for veteran bonus. The makes of the game just got greedy and wanted to get some money and they designed this cashgrab.
hii
everything is great except for one thing: the logo of the werewolves are now TERRIBLE
hi
Stupid pay to win game
Worst update