You’re absolutely correct, after I ruined 2 Invicta watches that I was regulating, it occurred to me to hack the movement while adjusting and I’ve had no more problems.
@@rogerauclair1670 same problem here. I just order a new movement. How did you repair your watch? Did you replace the balance or did you use a new movement?
true but if they are very careful, they can keep adjusting as it runs until it is set. Also leaving it for a few minutes allows the movement to settle down.
I notice the time grapher holding the face up. My watch is +15 s/d face up or down. On edge, crown up/down, it is +/- 4 s/d. Wearing the watch is mostly on edge. Gravity affects the balance wheel.
This is by far the most simple easy to understand video regarding this. So in order to reduce the speed I need to turn the regulator clockwise . My watch is currently running 2hours faster Thank you.
Great for beginners. Remember to tell them not to hit the spring or it is ruined. You should leave the back off and adjust it while on the timegrapher. Slowly just bump the lever a tiny bit always. I recommend cutting a little of the point of the wood or plastic pick off so you have a good flat side to move it. Should have done the beat error while in there. It is not that hard to do being the same on a different lever. I do both. I find changing the ms/beat changes the speed also.
The way I do it is by putting the watch on the timegrapher upside down, case-back off, and pushing the lever while watching the timegrapher display. It's a lot easier and quicker.
Really nice reviews on your channel, Jonah! Btw, I noticed that the watch movement at 1:30 is different than the one at 3:40. The little brass colored pieces in the regulating levers was kind of a give away. Good tip (no pun intended) to brace the hand. Just a fraction of a millimeter can make a 10-15 second/day difference.
I was rather leery about using a toothpick to regulate my watch, fearing that wood slivers would come off and muck up the watch innards... I used a plastic stick instead.
Dude i love your channel! I am cheapie when it comes to watches. Hoping for review of Invictas, Q&Q, fashion watches brand like Hugo, Lacoste. I am not demanding, just suggesting :)
I appreciate it! And thanks for the suggestion. I do have a Fossil fashion watch review on the channel if you want to check it out ruclips.net/video/6I4BVq1ZawM/видео.html
Why not do the adjustments with the watch running on the timegrapher to monitor the effect in realtime (while remembering position error)? This is what I did when regulating my first watch today (Dan Henry 1970). Took me mere three nudges to get it from +17 to zero. So happy!
Entirely subjective to be honest. Personally I would want absolutely no not than half that at +/-3 on all my autos and I'll in all honesty I regulate them all to +2 max "a-la Rolex"/Cosc. My goal with regulation is always +/-0 seconds though as I find it really satisfying and kind of a bit f*CK you to all the big swiss brands... Good luck!
@the1010watchclub I know but wouldn't rotating and adjusting in 1 position then doing it in another position lose what you just adjust in previous position?
Guys, for any new viewers out there, if your movement hacks, please hack it and adjust the timing so you dont touch that balance spring by mistake when its moving while tweaking the lever. All it takes it a simple slip. Ask me how i know. I ruined my favorite watch
@@the1010watchclub Congratulations! Love your videos. Looking forward to seeing your new content - but totally understand how busy your life must be. Take your time and make new videos at your own pace and when you feel it is healthy to do so.
I took my automatic watch to the local watchmaker and he refused to work on my watch. It used to be at +3 sec a day, it's at +18 a day and I just wanted it regulated. It doesn't help that there's a language barrier, I just want a close to accurate timepiece.
While that works, after a few dings and bangs, your accuracy will be out again and that mark you made won't make much of a difference the next time you try adjusting your watch
I noticed that too, the watch he put on the timegrapher is the Recraft with 7S26 movement, the watch he used for footage of the adjustment definitely was a 7009 movement
I tried this on a very cheap watch I bought online that was running -200 seconds! I opened up the back and the little regulating lever was in the "slow" portion of the regulator. So I pushed it with my spring bar tool toward the faster marker and checked again: +14 seconds. Okay. I could get it a bit more accurate still so I went to push the lever back toward the slow adjustment a bit and I was a bit hasty and didn't prop my hand against the table top for support and I heard a little "PING!" as the spring bar tool touched the balance wheel and brought it to a halt! As soon as I heard it I yanked my hand back knowing I may have done permanent damage and the watch resumed ticking away. I finished the regulating and got it to -6 seconds which is good enough for me. Luckily the watch seems to be no worse for wear so far but there's a reason I tried this with a cheap watch first.
Why did you use two different watch movements in this video? It's obvious if you pay attention to the stud and regulator. There is definately two different movements in this video.
dude... you need to adjust your beat error before going for the speed. also, try adjusting it with the face down (fastest speed), and adjust it in real time.
Quartz is superior in most ways but even us quartz guys have some mechanical watches, and knowing how to regulate them is handy. And it's not really the accuracy itself that I'm after. I just don't want inaccuracy.
@@mr22guy I was only joking. I have some mechanical clocks at home, one keeps really good time, and the sound of the ticking is soothing. I wouldn't trust a mechanical watch on my wrist, but as I said to each their own.
Hello. I have Omega Speedmaster, very old watch, automatic, and I have this part for regulating, but there is no + and - . It doesn say where is + and where s -. Can this part be adjustet at all? Does every automatic have this part for adjusting it? Now, the watch is in hurry 6 minutes every day.
Tip: if the movement hacks, hack it while adjusting! This will stop the mainspring and minimize the chance of any damage.
Great point, thank you!
You’re absolutely correct, after I ruined 2 Invicta watches that I was regulating, it occurred to me to hack the movement while adjusting and I’ve had no more problems.
@@rogerauclair1670 same problem here. I just order a new movement.
How did you repair your watch? Did you replace the balance or did you use a new movement?
true but if they are very careful, they can keep adjusting as it runs until it is set. Also leaving it for a few minutes allows the movement to settle down.
Wow, just did mine while it was spinning and didn't even think of this 🤦 TY!
Finally someone who is actually showings what's he doing and how to do it.Good video.👍
Thanks so much for this, I’m going to adjust my SRPS59 which is currently running almost a minute fast per day!
I notice the time grapher holding the face up. My watch is +15 s/d face up or down. On edge, crown up/down, it is +/- 4 s/d. Wearing the watch is mostly on edge. Gravity affects the balance wheel.
Yes it does- the main reason for the invention of the tourbillon
This is by far the most simple easy to understand video regarding this. So in order to reduce the speed I need to turn the regulator clockwise . My watch is currently running 2hours faster Thank you.
Any one opening the case back may wish to place a poly bag over the back before applying the case wrench to avoid marking the case.
great tip!
Finally someone tells me how. Thank you.
the amplitude of this watch is crying "Service me! Service me first!" 🤣
Good job Jonah...I can see where this can become addictive 🙂
Very helpful video, thank you so much
Thanks for watching!
Great for beginners. Remember to tell them not to hit the spring or it is ruined. You should leave the back off and adjust it while on the timegrapher. Slowly just bump the lever a tiny bit always. I recommend cutting a little of the point of the wood or plastic pick off so you have a good flat side to move it. Should have done the beat error while in there. It is not that hard to do being the same on a different lever. I do both. I find changing the ms/beat changes the speed also.
I think another commenter said this too but a great way to avoid this is to have the watch hacking whilst regulating, works a treat!
The way I do it is by putting the watch on the timegrapher upside down, case-back off, and pushing the lever while watching the timegrapher display. It's a lot easier and quicker.
Really nice reviews on your channel, Jonah! Btw, I noticed that the watch movement at 1:30 is different than the one at 3:40. The little brass colored pieces in the regulating levers was kind of a give away. Good tip (no pun intended) to brace the hand. Just a fraction of a millimeter can make a 10-15 second/day difference.
Thanks for watching! And good eye
I was rather leery about using a toothpick to regulate my watch, fearing that wood slivers would come off and muck up the watch innards... I used a plastic stick instead.
AGREE
Nice clear video!
Thanks!
Dude i love your channel! I am cheapie when it comes to watches. Hoping for review of Invictas, Q&Q, fashion watches brand like Hugo, Lacoste. I am not demanding, just suggesting :)
I appreciate it! And thanks for the suggestion. I do have a Fossil fashion watch review on the channel if you want to check it out ruclips.net/video/6I4BVq1ZawM/видео.html
You didn't mention the fact that the rate will change depending on the position/orientation of the watch, because gravity affects the balance wheel.
good point, thank you
Ya because that has nothing to do with this lol you sound like a redditor
I laughed so hard at the rate after the first adjustment
Is this the same for an NH35?
Yes, but you can also stop the movement, it's safer.
Why not do the adjustments with the watch running on the timegrapher to monitor the effect in realtime (while remembering position error)? This is what I did when regulating my first watch today (Dan Henry 1970). Took me mere three nudges to get it from +17 to zero. So happy!
I hadn't thought of that... interesting point
Why not do it while it is on the timegrapher?
Hey would , +6 seconds on the rate and 249 degrees on the amplitude be fine or would that need work ?
Entirely subjective to be honest. Personally I would want absolutely no not than half that at +/-3 on all my autos and I'll in all honesty I regulate them all to +2 max "a-la Rolex"/Cosc. My goal with regulation is always +/-0 seconds though as I find it really satisfying and kind of a bit f*CK you to all the big swiss brands... Good luck!
For a NH35, I've read that face down, +7 sec would give you a near perfect timing while wearing it
How would you adjust movement to 5 positions? Like companies do
The timegrapher watch stand rotates to different positions
@the1010watchclub I know but wouldn't rotating and adjusting in 1 position then doing it in another position lose what you just adjust in previous position?
Is there a way to adjust it to be 100% accurat like digital watch ?
Yeah buy a quarz
@@mutawi3i Even quartz watches have rate errors.
The simple answer is no.
Is is the same for a hand-winding watch?
Yes
Hi there. May I know please this Seiko model watch
It’s a Seiko Recraft SNKM97
my lever is already at the minimum speed, but my watch still too fast like 2 second per minute. what should i do?
Sounds like your watch is magnetized
What about the water resistance…
Great vid..
Guys, for any new viewers out there, if your movement hacks, please hack it and adjust the timing so you dont touch that balance spring by mistake when its moving while tweaking the lever. All it takes it a simple slip. Ask me how i know. I ruined my favorite watch
Hi, why there is no more videos?
I'll be back! I made a big move, got married, and started a new job so I've been a bit busy
@@the1010watchclub Wow, wish you all the best Jonah. 😀
@@the1010watchclub Congratulations! Love your videos. Looking forward to seeing your new content - but totally understand how busy your life must be. Take your time and make new videos at your own pace and when you feel it is healthy to do so.
great..., i was adjusting and then my finger slipped and broke the springs 😥
I took my automatic watch to the local watchmaker and he refused to work on my watch. It used to be at +3 sec a day, it's at +18 a day and I just wanted it regulated. It doesn't help that there's a language barrier, I just want a close to accurate timepiece.
Thanks
Take a sharpie and put a dot where you started from in front of the arrow, this way you won’t go back from where you started when you readjust.
While that works, after a few dings and bangs, your accuracy will be out again and that mark you made won't make much of a difference the next time you try adjusting your watch
Nice job
Thanks!
Did you take down the the Duro and the Microbrand related
vids? Not showing up now. Anyway, sent you an email
re Lorier.
They should all still be up, here's a link to my Duro torture-test vid: ruclips.net/video/4nw5U-q4Sm4/видео.html
I like this job
Cheers
You're showing a different movement when adjusting. It's probably a 7009 rather than a 7s26.
I noticed that too, the watch he put on the timegrapher is the Recraft with 7S26 movement, the watch he used for footage of the adjustment definitely was a 7009 movement
You still out there?
I'm here! More videos coming very soon
The first little bit you pushed it would probably have been enough.
I never know when to stop 😂
You cant hand wind an SNMK97
yeah, my first time pushing the lever made the watch to be at +100 seconds a day, lol.
Where'd you go man???????? Dont tell me its over??
It's not over! Just in the middle of moving and switching jobs but I'll be back soon! Thanks for checking in
mine runs about 7h to fast per 24h
I think 11:11 might have been a better name or even 10:01
lol.... quit while you're ahead 😃
I tried this on a very cheap watch I bought online that was running -200 seconds! I opened up the back and the little regulating lever was in the "slow" portion of the regulator.
So I pushed it with my spring bar tool toward the faster marker and checked again: +14 seconds.
Okay. I could get it a bit more accurate still so I went to push the lever back toward the slow adjustment a bit and I was a bit hasty and didn't prop my hand against the table top for support and I heard a little "PING!" as the spring bar tool touched the balance wheel and brought it to a halt!
As soon as I heard it I yanked my hand back knowing I may have done permanent damage and the watch resumed ticking away. I finished the regulating and got it to -6 seconds which is good enough for me.
Luckily the watch seems to be no worse for wear so far but there's a reason I tried this with a cheap watch first.
Always a good idea to start with a cheap one... glad your watch is ok! -6 seconds would definitely be close enough for me too
Used 2 movements for the video.. 7s26 and 7009...ha ha..
Why did you use two different watch movements in this video? It's obvious if you pay attention to the stud and regulator. There is definately two different movements in this video.
dude... you need to adjust your beat error before going for the speed. also, try adjusting it with the face down (fastest speed), and adjust it in real time.
😂😂😂😂😂
And that is why their use of these regulating systems are crap.
Step 1, buy a quartz
Step 2, regret that decision
@@thecanadianpirat3679 Idk why I would regret higher accuracy, but to each their own.
Quartz is superior in most ways but even us quartz guys have some mechanical watches, and knowing how to regulate them is handy.
And it's not really the accuracy itself that I'm after. I just don't want inaccuracy.
@@thecanadianpirat3679
Why? I have quartz watches and mechanical watches in my collection. There's nothing wrong with quartz.
@@mr22guy I was only joking. I have some mechanical clocks at home, one keeps really good time, and the sound of the ticking is soothing. I wouldn't trust a mechanical watch on my wrist, but as I said to each their own.
Hello. I have Omega Speedmaster, very old watch, automatic, and I have this part for regulating, but there is no + and - . It doesn say where is + and where s -. Can this part be adjustet at all? Does every automatic have this part for adjusting it? Now, the watch is in hurry 6 minutes every day.
There are several different adjustment methods that a watch can have. I’d recommend taking the Omega to a watchmaker for service though
great video , thanks for the explanation .