You should take another run at it using Unreal Engine. It renders in real time just about and the control you have is amazing. Not super hard to learn either and it’s free. I think you could get pretty close to the original and tweak from there to your liking. In this particular scene in the original, it was pretty clear that the lighting on the ships didn’t match the star base environment. They kind of glowed blue.
The comment that the Excelsior capt makes when he says "you'll never sit in the captain's chair again" is so ironic. Not only will Kirk sit in the Captian's chair again, Mr. Sulu will be sitting in HIS chair! lol
Best line of this movie from my point of view: "Gentlemen, your work today has been outstanding. And I intend to recommend you all for promotion... in whatever fleet we end up serving!" 😂
You are NOT kidding! This scene and the music that goes with it always gives me goose bumps when I watch it. Especially right at the moment that they get the space dock doors open.
I agree with you, truly an underestimated film score composer, he made these two films memorable simply because of the music. And to think in 1997 he composed the awesome score 🎼 that accompanied James Cameron's TITANIC
The music is absolutely perfect for this scene, it is my favorite scene in this film. Horner did the same with the music for the Reliant attack on the Enterprise scene in The Wrath of Khan.
God, I'm a geek for pointing this out...those display graphics (including 'Good Morning, Captain') were rendered on an Apple ][e, along with the Enterprise displays (Chekov's Security Alert, and when they enter in the destruct sequence). I used one for many years, and immediately recognized the fonts when I first saw it in the theater.
I loved this film when I saw it in the theater, as a kid. I still think it’s a great middle chapter to that 2/3/4 trilogy. I’ll never understand the bad rap it seems to get.
Comon it's the 23rd century right and they still have Atari old nes screen graphics????? Like star wars 4 when death star was approaching the rebel base???
"Kirk , if you do this, you will never sit in a captains chair again !!". 2285. 2286, Kirk commands NCC-1701 -A 2290 , Sulu , who piloted the stolen Enterprise, NCC-1701, commands the U.S.S. Excelsior, NCC-2000. Capt. Stiles got a desk job pushing papers. Final frontier justice.
It’s the lighting I think. The shadows are too pin sharp and the textures a little flat. Great effort though. With a bit of refinement they’d be stellar, no pun intended
Bones in this situation seemed more like a *real* doctor to me than any others in ST ever did. Medical training took up all of his time at the academy so that he never had time to learn more than the basics of anything else and he had no desire for upward mobility so never did any learning on his own.
One of my all time favorite scenes from Star Trek. I know that might sound weird! It's just so satisfying with excellent music! I always wanted someone to redo this scene but have the Enterprise leave Spacedock FRONT FIRST instead of obviously reusing the entry FX played backwards.
You did a great job. Very nice and thank you. Whenever I see any CGI I always think of when movie effects predominantly used models. No CGI will ever be as REAL as models. Again, thank you for sharing!!
That is true loyalty from a crew for whom faced danger and death through the historical five year mission, V'ger, Khan etc. Especially being in serious trouble and they're are in deep
Why did Excelsior slow to a stop when the engines failed? Her momentum should have kept her moving..and if ya don't believe me... ask Sir Isaac Newton.
Keep up the good work! This version of the Enterprise and the Enterprise-A will always be my beautiful girl. I also just love the music from 3:36-3:53. I *ALWAYS* whstle or hum it when I am backing out of the driveway.
He changes his shirt later in the movie. I believe it was the scene when they are still in warp heading to the Genesis planet, and he informs Kirk that Starfleet sent a message to the USS Grissom warning them that the Enterprise was in its way. If you note, his shirt is different.
Very well done indeed. Always a pleasure to see our Lady especially when She lifts up her petticoats and speeds away. I will always love her and to see her destroyed around Genesis gets me every time as does the scene where Kirk tells Scotty, Sulu and Chekov that they don't have to go with him and McCoy. That crew would follow him to the gates of Hell and back
Anyone ever wonder just how a starship goes to impulse speed in reverse, given where the impulse engines are located? I doubt the maneuvering thrusters have _that_ much power.
Kirk: Annnnddd now, Mr Scott.. Scott: Sir? Kirk: The doors, Mr Scott... Scott: Ay sir, I’m working on it...This isn’t exactly a garage door I’m trying to open, sir.
To this day, I never understood why they had the Enterprise back out of spacedock, instead of turning around inside. When you see the end of the nacelles nearing the doors, I always thought it would be more suspenseful if you saw the saucer section nearing them instead. The time it takes for them to open is too slow and the angle shown, makes you think they would still hit the doors because the wide space of the nacelles. Just my opinion.
My guess is that when they entered space dock forward, they didn’t know they would be taking the Enterprise out again, so there was no need to turn it around. If they had taken the time to turn around when they were trying to escape, they would have been caught before they could get away.
One quarter impulse power would have slammed the ships into the wall of spacedock in seconds. Try doing doing that scene in CGI! The script should have called for thrusters only.
Small mistake excelsior during this movie is an nx vessel. It would later be commisioned as an ncc .after its shakedown cruise .and fefitted with a standard warp core
The look on Admiral Morrow's face would be priceless if anyone saw him getting so irate because Admiral Kirk and his crew not only disobeyed his direct orders not to return to Genesis to get Spock back but also stole the battered Enterprise and sabotaged the Excelsior from following her. The look on Captain Styes' face was priceless when the Excelsior's engines conked out. A surprise that Styles didn't yell his head off in front of the crew on the bridge.
"1/4 impulse power"? One fourth the speed of light is a little fast inside a space station don't you think? Whoever wrote this must have also wrote the Kestle Run line.
@@norsemyn6865 Warp 1 was always the speed of light. Full impulse I think is 1/4 the speed of light. 1/4 impulse power is still stupid fast to be going inside of the space dock, though.
I enjoyed it. it's nice to see fresh takes on the old ST movies. it keeps things interesting. The only thing I would really change is I would add the flashing lights on the space door and you put "NCC" on the Excelsior instead of "NX".
The movie Enterprise at least up until Star Trek 5 had something along that line called turbolock armrest on the captain's chair and on all the other chair equipped bridge.
...I have wondered why Sulu didn't spin the Enterprise around as they approached Space doors. ...I have a Question for all of you who have seen ST: IV more than three times...the Asian woman on the Excelsior bridge; 'Is she the same actress that appeared on the bridge of the Grissom?' ...This has bothered me for years. Thanks for your time. LLAP
While I love this scene , I still wish I could have read Diane Carey Novel that involved Piper and her group having to steal the Enterprise. Carey summitted the novel and had it turned down , because of this scene .
If Spock's father, Sarek, the Vulcan Ambassador, was on the old Enterprise with Admiral Kirk and his crew when they stole that ship to go rescue Spock from Genesis after finding out his living spirit is in Dr. McCoy, would Sarek try to reason with Captain Styles not to stop his son's friends from saving him and to think about Spock's human mother if Captain Styles tries to stop them? Would he grant Sarek's request, or deny it and risk an incident with the Vulcan people?
it is SO nice to see the nacelles approach the space-doors without the blue-screen white outline which always jarred me out of the scene. You could have just fixed that and I would have been thankful.
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Just want to point out I’m not claiming this is better than the original. I was just having fun 😊
I pretty much always prefer models to cgi, so naturally that's the case here too. But, this is still pretty good man.
Hey not bad. Could tell you were having fun. :D This to me was what Star Trek III would be in a CGI Babylon 5 like universe.
Good work, but you can’t beat in camera effects
You should take another run at it using Unreal Engine. It renders in real time just about and the control you have is amazing. Not super hard to learn either and it’s free. I think you could get pretty close to the original and tweak from there to your liking. In this particular scene in the original, it was pretty clear that the lighting on the ships didn’t match the star base environment. They kind of glowed blue.
Think what you’ve done is pretty amazing , honestly !
"The more they over think their plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain".
The models from the movie can't be replaced
There were some bits from the original that weren't done all that well.
I sincerely think some of the scenes using the models in Star Trek VI have yet to be beat to this day
@@milesparris4045 The simple fact the Excelsior in this version does not come to a halt after being sabotaged is a nice fix that always bothered me
If the Studio won't do the Fans good the Fans have to do better
This Enterprise is to me the Best Looking one of all of Ships in the Star Trek Universe
Agreed
@@leonmorales6237 I agree
I love it's design but my favorite is the Odyssey class.
Agreed.
No bloody A B C or D
The comment that the Excelsior capt makes when he says "you'll never sit in the captain's chair again" is so ironic. Not only will Kirk sit in the Captian's chair again, Mr. Sulu will be sitting in HIS chair! lol
Captain Styles was such a pompous ass.
@@alucard624 Styles _was_ a pompous ass, but apparently he was sharp enough to realize that it had to be Kirk stealing the _Enterprise._
@@alucard624 Sure. That's why Sulu is taking command of this rustbucket a while later.. What a barfbag...
@@cookiemonsterdayz Styles is even more of a jackass in the comics and books.
@@DancingRasputin That's a different character with the last name of Styles apparently.
Best line of this movie from my point of view: "Gentlemen, your work today has been outstanding. And I intend to recommend you all for promotion... in whatever fleet we end up serving!" 😂
I think this was some of James Horners best music. I loved this scene
You are NOT kidding! This scene and the music that goes with it always gives me goose bumps when I watch it. Especially right at the moment that they get the space dock doors open.
I agree with you, truly an underestimated film score composer, he made these two films memorable simply because of the music. And to think in 1997 he composed the awesome score 🎼 that accompanied James Cameron's TITANIC
@@DaDitka you've got that right everything fits the moment
@@DaDitka I especially love when DeForest Kelly says "are you just going to walk through them" and all Kirk says is " Calm yourself Doctor"
The music is absolutely perfect for this scene, it is my favorite scene in this film.
Horner did the same with the music for the Reliant attack on the Enterprise scene in The Wrath of Khan.
One of the best scenes in Star Trek III. Shows the chemistry of the original series actors.
True they made reversing out of you garage tense
@@chrisby30
"And NOW, Mr Scott."
"Sir?"
"The DOORS, Mr Scott."
"Aye, Sir, I'm working on it."
😯😯😯
Always loved the Excelsior's advanced Commodore 64 display graphics
Hands up anyone who has masteres interstellar travel
Shatner was once a spokesman for Commodore! The Vic-20
God, I'm a geek for pointing this out...those display graphics (including 'Good Morning, Captain') were rendered on an Apple ][e, along with the Enterprise displays (Chekov's Security Alert, and when they enter in the destruct sequence).
I used one for many years, and immediately recognized the fonts when I first saw it in the theater.
The inner part of the spacedock bay doors, oddly enough, look like the Apple II brackets.
That was part of Scotty's sabotage. He made them see ancient 1980's graphics.
Always the master, Scotty.
I believe regulations clearly state that "thrusters only" are to be used inside Spacedock
Spock clears throat - "Ahem ahem!"
absolutely.
@@kennyfordham6208 "You heard the order, Lieutenant."
This movie gets a bad rap; it's one of my favorites. Nimoy gave it a sense of 'epicness.'
It's mixed. There's something to like in all the odd-number TOS-cast films.
It my favorite out of all the Star Trek movies. A beautiful Classic in my opinion.
I would say that this movie is just behind Wrath of Kahn.
I loved this film when I saw it in the theater, as a kid. I still think it’s a great middle chapter to that 2/3/4 trilogy. I’ll never understand the bad rap it seems to get.
I think it suffers from being between #2 and #4, two of the best-regarded films. I like it as well as any of the even-numbered movies.
Only nitpick I have is the registry on the Excelsior should read NX-2000 as it was still classified as experimental. Other than that, great job!
I noticed this too - not that I could do anywhere close on stuff like this lol
Comon it's the 23rd century right and they still have Atari old nes screen graphics????? Like star wars 4 when death star was approaching the rebel base???
The Enterprise is not just the Queen of the Stars, but she is also a Goddess!
Man, I completely agree with you
"Kirk , if you do this, you will never sit in a captains chair again !!". 2285.
2286, Kirk commands NCC-1701 -A
2290 , Sulu , who piloted the stolen Enterprise, NCC-1701, commands the U.S.S. Excelsior, NCC-2000. Capt. Stiles got a desk job pushing papers. Final frontier justice.
Just a flying, busted up, obsolete junk pile by that point!
She is a beautiful ship....Enterprise D, not so much
She is a beautiful lady and we love her
I remember my heart was in my Throat when I saw this at the movies.
"Prepare for Ludicrous Speed."
Captured the essence of the original footage! VERY NICELY DONE!!
That Horner score.
By far the best only just barely second to Goldsmith's score of TMP.
Sorry but prefer the original modelwork - this cgi version just leaves me cold
Me, too. There’s something more tangible, obviously, about models.
@@Proximityillusions Totally - would rather a few matte lines with composite shots than total blanket cold CGI..
Yep, agreed.
It’s the lighting I think. The shadows are too pin sharp and the textures a little flat. Great effort though. With a bit of refinement they’d be stellar, no pun intended
Yeah, this is just nasty
Kirk: Stations please
McCoy: I’ll just go stand back here at this railing.
When McCoy is hanging around on the bridge, "leaning against a railing" IS his duty station.
If only the Enterprise main control room had a Mission Medical console for the good doctor.
Bones in this situation seemed more like a *real* doctor to me than any others in ST ever did. Medical training took up all of his time at the academy so that he never had time to learn more than the basics of anything else and he had no desire for upward mobility so never did any learning on his own.
I like how you have the Excelsior accelerating only to slow back down again as her engines stall out.
I'm *not* sure *if* I remember correctly, but the sound of the Excelsior's engine giving out sounds a lot like an old style car's engine dying out.
Fun Fact: the voice of the _Excelsior_ computer was provided by Leonard Nimoy (and heavily filtered/modified).
Fun fact!
"Kirk, if you do this you'll NEVER sit in the Captain's chair again..." (Just as Kirk SITS DOWN in the Captain's Chair...)
And Sulu will be sitting in YOUR chair- minus the swagger stick
I have never been able to get over what Chekov is wearing. Alfred Bester as Little Lord Fauntleroy :-)
Your lighting needs a lot of refinement, but the camera work, ship animation, and warp speed effect are quite good. Keep at it!
Positive criticism. Very rare in RUclips comments. I commend you
Dude, I love the detail at 1:55 where we see some new repairs already underway.
This is really really good.
One of my all time favorite scenes from Star Trek. I know that might sound weird! It's just so satisfying with excellent music! I always wanted someone to redo this scene but have the Enterprise leave Spacedock FRONT FIRST instead of obviously reusing the entry FX played backwards.
You did a great job. Very nice and thank you. Whenever I see any CGI I always think of when movie effects predominantly used models. No CGI will ever be as REAL as models. Again, thank you for sharing!!
A valiant effort. Thank you!
nice, man this must of been a ton of work. thanks for sharing
One should never nitpick until they can do better......Great job..
That is true loyalty from a crew for whom faced danger and death through the historical five year mission, V'ger, Khan etc. Especially being in serious trouble and they're are in deep
Although I'll always love the models SFX more, I do salute the effort
This captain: "Execute."
Excelsior: "You didn't say 'engage.'" *shuts down*
Shuts down by imitating an old car's engine dying apparently.
😂😂
1 quarter impulse power..Sir that's against regulations...LOL
Best part of any star trek movie or series, love it and highlights how great and fun the original crew were
Absolutely no contest.....the original is far superior
But this was still a valiant effort.
Your videos are always worth watching.
Why did Excelsior slow to a stop when the engines failed? Her momentum should have kept her moving..and if ya don't believe me... ask Sir Isaac Newton.
Keep up the good work! This version of the Enterprise and the Enterprise-A will always be my beautiful girl. I also just love the music from 3:36-3:53. I *ALWAYS* whstle or hum it when I am backing out of the driveway.
I wish in the movie a low level torpedo would have been fired by Excelcior as Big E banked right after clearing the doors. Awesome job!
Great effort..the Enterprise being persued by the Excelsior with spacedock and earth in the background has to be one of scifis greatest scenes ever!!!
I miss the blinking red lights on the space doors
The biggest problem with this scene is the bizarre wardrobe choice with Chekhov's collar. It makes a 48-year-old man look like a Victorian-era child.
Yeah, wardrobe misfire for sure. I do like Sulu's garb here though.
I want McCoy's outfit.
He changes his shirt later in the movie. I believe it was the scene when they are still in warp heading to the Genesis planet, and he informs Kirk that Starfleet sent a message to the USS Grissom warning them that the Enterprise was in its way. If you note, his shirt is different.
Love the scene, Love the music
Nice job, but I do still prefer the original model work.
Its not a bad try but it doesn't hold up to the magic of the movie.
This puts GTA to shame LOL 😆
if you listen to the dialogue they knew it was Kirk immediately lol
Very well done indeed. Always a pleasure to see our Lady especially when She lifts up her petticoats and speeds away. I will always love her and to see her destroyed around Genesis gets me every time as does the scene where Kirk tells Scotty, Sulu and Chekov that they don't have to go with him and McCoy. That crew would follow him to the gates of Hell and back
Or the gates of Gre'thor!
"May the wind be at our backs."
"Stations, please."
@@DaDitka engage auto systems.
Aye, engaged.
Clear all moorings.
@Mike Gallant Cleared, sir.
One quarter impulse power.
One quarter impulse...
Sir, Commander Starfleet on emergency channel. He orders you to surrender this wessel.
@@dandeliondown7920 No reply, Chekov. Steady as she goes, Sulu.
Anyone ever wonder just how a starship goes to impulse speed in reverse, given where the impulse engines are located? I doubt the maneuvering thrusters have _that_ much power.
My Dad: This whole ship. 5 people on board. And all of them in one room. But EVERY freaking light is turned on, all over the ship!
I like how you made it blend in a bit with the remastered original series with some background effects.
Nicely done--as always!
Scotty is a genius
Kirk: Annnnddd now, Mr Scott..
Scott: Sir?
Kirk: The doors, Mr Scott...
Scott: Ay sir, I’m working on it...This isn’t exactly a garage door I’m trying to open, sir.
To this day, I never understood why they had the Enterprise back out of spacedock, instead of turning around inside. When you see the end of the nacelles nearing the doors, I always thought it would be more suspenseful if you saw the saucer section nearing them instead. The time it takes for them to open is too slow and the angle shown, makes you think they would still hit the doors because the wide space of the nacelles. Just my opinion.
if the door dont open then then the nacelles buckling would act as a cushion/shock absorber whereas with the saucer hitting it would be game over
My guess is that when they entered space dock forward, they didn’t know they would be taking the Enterprise out again, so there was no need to turn it around. If they had taken the time to turn around when they were trying to escape, they would have been caught before they could get away.
I liked that nice touch where the Excelsior accelerates for a millisecond and then abruptly slows down.
I love the old jalopy sounds!! As the chase comes to a stop
That always struck me as ridiculous, frankly. It completely took me out of the film.
I loved those sounds! Definitely comedic. Sounds like a broken washer machine agitator gone haywire.
@@stuartbear922 Broken washing machine? I always thought it sounded like an engine of a really old car slowly giving out.
This is so damn underrated
1:50 - Random bored guy is both random and bored.
he was stood up on a date.
🖖😎👍Very cool one of the greatest scenes from Startrek 3 ever made besides the Klingon battle and the destruction of the Enterprise indeed!,👌.
One quarter impulse power would have slammed the ships into the wall of spacedock in seconds. Try doing doing that scene in CGI! The script should have called for thrusters only.
Small mistake excelsior during this movie is an nx vessel. It would later be commisioned as an ncc .after its shakedown cruise .and fefitted with a standard warp core
Good job but sorry to say the original effects were much better looking.
I wholeheartedly agree. Good work tho.
Good effort, but agreed. Old fx still stand.
One of the best scenes ever in Star Trek
The look on Admiral Morrow's face would be priceless if anyone saw him getting so irate because Admiral Kirk and his crew not only disobeyed his direct orders not to return to Genesis to get Spock back but also stole the battered Enterprise and sabotaged the Excelsior from following her. The look on Captain Styes' face was priceless when the Excelsior's engines conked out. A surprise that Styles didn't yell his head off in front of the crew on the bridge.
Some of the battle damage on the saucer looks like someone walked on it
"1/4 impulse power"? One fourth the speed of light is a little fast inside a space station don't you think? Whoever wrote this must have also wrote the Kestle Run line.
Full impulse isn't light speed?
@@W00KER According to what I've read over the years, full impulse is supposed to be right up to the speed of light, then warp 1 beyond that.
@@norsemyn6865 Warp 1 was always the speed of light. Full impulse I think is 1/4 the speed of light. 1/4 impulse power is still stupid fast to be going inside of the space dock, though.
I enjoyed it. it's nice to see fresh takes on the old ST movies. it keeps things interesting. The only thing I would really change is I would add the flashing lights on the space door and you put "NCC" on the Excelsior instead of "NX".
I love Star Trek and always will at. 65
thanks for this perspective. keep it up.
I like the models instead of CG but I do appreciate the effort 👍
this is outstanding but -- too bad you couldn't fix Checkov's clothing, lol
At the end is the one of two scenes, where James Doohan's injured hand can be seen.
Nice catch my friend :)
Beautifully done.
May the wind be on our backs
It's weird that the only Starfleet vessel to provide anything remotely like a seatbelt to their seats was the failed Transwarp ship.
The movie Enterprise at least up until Star Trek 5 had something along that line called turbolock armrest on the captain's chair and on all the other chair equipped bridge.
What bothers me is that this still looks better than the Star Trek online game.
In some of the shots, it looks like the Starbase is moving, not the ships.
Nice job!!
...I have wondered why Sulu didn't spin the Enterprise around as they approached Space doors.
...I have a Question for all of you who have seen ST: IV more than three times...the Asian woman on the Excelsior bridge; 'Is she the same actress that appeared on the bridge of the Grissom?'
...This has bothered me for years. Thanks for your time. LLAP
well done! looks great. obligatory nerd nit pick.. i believe the Excelsior's registry was still NX in TSFS :)
Very good job
BEST THEFT EVER !
*putter putter putterputterputter Bang! putter*
The update looked more like I was playing Star Trek: Online than watching a movie at times... But I can see the appeal too.
I don't want to minimize the amazing work the artist did, but I think I prefer the original.
While I love this scene , I still wish I could have read Diane Carey Novel that involved Piper and her group having to steal the Enterprise. Carey summitted the novel and had it turned down , because of this scene .
Those doors sure did open up quick at first
Ahhhh my happy place
Mine too.
It took a lot of guts taking it into warp!
I like this one
The original looked more realistic, this looks like a video game!!!
Beautiful
Awesome.
If Spock's father, Sarek, the Vulcan Ambassador, was on the old Enterprise with Admiral Kirk and his crew when they stole that ship to go rescue Spock from Genesis after finding out his living spirit is in Dr. McCoy, would Sarek try to reason with Captain Styles not to stop his son's friends from saving him and to think about Spock's human mother if Captain Styles tries to stop them? Would he grant Sarek's request, or deny it and risk an incident with the Vulcan people?
Hello old friend.
it is SO nice to see the nacelles approach the space-doors without the blue-screen white outline which always jarred me out of the scene.
You could have just fixed that and I would have been thankful.
Great work