@@slizzle6632 Monster Kody said Tookie and Raymond pulled up to the hood in the same car. Tookie and Raymond were good friends; and real certified crips!!
@@childrenofisrael7394 all early crips were good friends even though they didn't know each other because they had a bond. they were crips when crips were still one gang. Raymond and tookie barely knew each other even though they were driving in the same car in monster kodys story
Man jimel had cats walking behind him at every function didn’t know him just saw him all the time when something cracked His presence stood out an he always acknowledged me with a what up I was a teenager great to see apart of history my history
Yesh i remember when Tookie had the boys home off of Stockwell and my best friend Debra H.was messing with Tookie...And i remember that big ole light nicca hanging with. Tookie and i recall he was Rookie Runner. That's real talk..
Oh, and Took didn't know no damn Raymond. They were just too different and LA too big. But nothing would have changed overall if they had linked up. Support.
He do tough,you never hear him mentioned in any of the historical facts,no receipts, I use to see him in Compton back in the days,he difinetly wasn't on Tookie's level,nor any of the Og's back in those days,he was more like Madcot with the size and the body building,he hating on big Took,period.
Yes. Aside from the claim that Tookie sodomized him everything else is credible once you realize he's speaking his truth in his own unique way. Yet, it's quite sad that he's still so young in the head at such an advanced age. He's actually upset with a dead man who's actions in question took place over 50 years ago. Wow!
Tookie is one of the original cofounder of the west side crips along ......the 1st person too bring tookie to the crip organization was Donald sweet back archer along with. Melvin farmer big james not James miller the brim killer to different ppl but u get my drift
Big Cutes would visit all crip Set :Qut 102. 118. Compton .block 107. N-hood. Vertis swan was his best friend in youth camp and on the set .little james was his home boy big jack too. James miller.and made friends after cco. blue note prison war he and james miller were cell mate in RJ.Donovan prison before his Dear left.
OG Big James miller was one crip all crips loved .He was one of the very first Crips who stood up to the BGF. He had heart .so he was Dear to all of us. a lot of people dont even know OG.Cutes mack 7. introduced to his wife Lisa.
You need to make a video and put them real facts out there to wash away all these misconceptions wanna be's and dysfunctional people are doing. #facts #rule
He said in another recording, that it was 2nd. Now it's "3rd or 5th"? That doesn't make sense. I don't know how c's describe generations, so I don't know what that would describe, but funny style it sounds
True history in 1974 we attended Washington High school 108 st. LA. I introduced you to Tookie .you and Big Mouse and Big Al would buff in my Den and Tookies back yard we would go flex on 69th. in western ave stop traffic hit the parks on weekends you.and l would roll the blv.in your white 65 lifted.God loves us mel.we don't need to say hurtful things about love ones. you were not a gang banger we were and l am sorry for that OG.Cutes keep up the good work and don't try to be more then you are .Your right God Is King.Peace.
NOW Tookie was a 3rd or 5th Gen Crip but u said he was a 2nd Generation Crip on one of the shows? I don't blame this guy about how he feels about Tookie..Only them two know the Real Story Not us...
Jimel Barnes he can't have come after Raymond was dead because HE WAS IN PRISON AND YOU KNOW THIS, YOU ASKED PRETTY BOY FROM ROLLIN 60s HOW TOOKIE WAS DOING IN JAIL
@@dumuzidthemighty9377 TRUE FACTS KING HE TALKING SOME FUCCIN BULLSHIT RAY AND TOOKIE ARE ARE THE FOUNDERS WHICH THEM KING CRIPS , THIS FOOL TALKING CRAZY
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A mentality like that is why alot of niggas fall off a cliff at a really young age. You trying to suppress people's free thinking, because he's an "OG" smh.
Next Do a video about why you never wanted to fight John Seal from the Walnuts even though you was telling everyone you could whoop him and about the Time you got knocked out at a boxing Gym and tried to sue them 😂 The Godfather of Lies
Gilbert Bell yes I've heard the story even Raymond had to get involved stop them Grooves from blasting Jimel, Jimel was never respected in LA by reputables they tried to murder him at one point that's probably why he hates Tookie so much because he's always wanted the respect that Tookie had, is OG Cutes still alive? are you related to him wasn't his real name Hildred Bell correct me if I'm wrong
with so many lies . maybe his brain is not right and he really believes his lies. Big Donald R. OG.Said",The Real Recognizes the real". Any OG Blood Or Crip knows this Fat ass buster is lying about his role as a member a founder of nothing .Cutes said,"this dude never put in any work" 60. Pretty had it right this dude is weak". Lets just shine him on because only other B----- Message truncated -----
gilbertbell888@gmail.com> wrote: It's pretty pitiful this fat man rewrites gang history with so many lies . maybe his brain is not right and he really believes his lies. Big Donald R. OG.Said",The Real Recognizes the real". Any OG Blood Or Crip knows this Fat ass buster is lying about his role as a member a founder of nothing .Cutes said,"this dude never put in any work" 60. Pretty had it right this dude is weak". Lets just shine him on because only other busters believe his lies. the " Real Recognizes The Real".
This dude just trying to get 15 minutes of fame. Hundreds of people have told their versions of Raymond, Tookie and the crips and he was never mentioned until he came home and started trying to come at Snoop but that didn’t work either. But honestly I just want to know why gangsters making videos.
I understand what you are saying but that's the life you chose and if you choose the wrong things in life there are consequences see what happen to tookie I wish things could of been different for the both of you stay off the radio and stay on your knees you are getting older every day .don't you think its time for a change know matter what name you earn in the street always remember the last man that will be standing with the powerful name is God tookie is dead and gone let him rest in peace stop talking about the dead learn to live and for get and for give you will come a long way I will keep you in my payer
Tammy Williams Jimel is Jealous of Tookie so he will never let things go, Hate borne from jealousy can never go away be because the person who's jealous will never be able excel or surpass the person who is hated that is what fuels their hatred, Tookies legacy and accomplishments overshadows everything Jimel has ever done in his life, that's why he makes up these ridiculous stories placing himself in the centre of LA gang history and always belittle Tookie but all of his fantasies are in his head, they never happened and nobody believes him, once more he has disgraced himself among real OGs Crips and Bloods who laugh at him, he's always been in Tookies shadow because he knows Big Took was the better MAN! RIP
not mad at you any more mel .your cousin Iron man and were cool you and l were cool l just felt angry after you said what youn said . you said God Bless Tookie so I now forgive you God bless OG .Big Cutes from the 7
Jimel is original Crip. Our uncle was the Birmingham guy who in early '60s migrated to Los Angeles and found the LA Brims, who wore blue before the Crips. Of course when Crips came in '68, they took the color blue because Brims were less than 25 deep and so small. I luv the originals.
Hope all is well Your Way O.G. True: Your name rang bells all the way to Long Beach as did Freeway Ric, Took, Raymond and many others. Think ppl are missing the point in life. Gang Banging/Claiming/Affilitations etc, are destructive and prevent you from living life 2 the fullest. Im sure You have lost hundreds of Homies to these streets and Pennitentiaries. All for what?? To have a legacy that my own son is afraid of?? Idk Stay Up/Stay Strong GOD 1st
peace brother...dont want to take anything away from the good brother jimmy lavender...but it seems as if Jimmy has sum sort of gripe with Raymond...first he said Raymond was knocked out by Craig Munson, which Jimmy was not there and when he told the story he so EMPHATIC and happy to tell the the story,come to find out it was not true. He said he ran into Craig the next day??? how convenient...he admitted to being an ex dope head....said Raymond Washington was not a good fighter but give props to Jimel whom credibility is completely shot...Jimmy never mentioned Raymond losing a fight that he JIMMY him self witnessed. Not saying Raymond cant lose a fight.Barefoot Pookie, said Raymond was a HOG, jimmy condescended that remark and said he wasn't. Ok....then when Kev asked Jimmy about whom he would considered the best fighter and or who he wanted to fight along side him,Jimmy said a brother by the name of BAD NEWS,then when Kev interviewed Bad News,Kev asked Bad News whom was a great fighter,he said BAREFOOT POOKIE, huh? So Barefoot credits Raymond, Bad News,credits Barefoot. But Jimmy Disses Raymond doesn't add up then Jimmy does a video allll about Raymond, he was not as close as he claims....he new him very well but that wasn't his friend it appear to me....ok Raymond was just another cat and average fighter...since when u know average guys get to sit at the table and eat at the house of the founders of at that time 1 of the biggest L.A. gang's the Bishops?? Dont make sense it is utterly sad that this man is 4gotten and sum times dissed...
There is no shame over here Ms Williams. I did know more than Tookie. I always said "If you have a problem with someone, solve it OG style, hand to hand and head up." Which I tried to teach him back then. I never asked to be The Real OG, it was a position that was earned through hundreds of fist fights, being shot up in 1971 and by earning my respect on the set from Compton to Watts. That title came with a lot of pain Ms Williams a pain that you would not know about Ms Williams and a pain that you could not have went through.
OG Jimel, What about Donald Archie, Judson Baycot, and Bob that can vouch for Tookie meeting Raymond at Saint Andrews Park ?? I know Eastside and Westside History brothers are saying different things... OG Pookie from Westside talks about the history of the 100s and the Smaks, Judson Baycot and Westside meetings, as far as West History- Tookie would be a Older brother to Barefoot... Enlighten me , Eastside cuzz, who can properly speak on Westside history... Westside is saying Took knew Raymond, and your saying they never Met??
Barnes claims that he recruited Tookie in Compton in 1979/1980 and within 3-years he buffed him up with weights. Barnes makes this same claim in the 1995 book, Uprising in more detail where he states, “Later on after Raymond passed away, I wanted a twin brother, I wanted somebody to replace Raymond, so I went out and found this guy named Tookie and built him up from a little small guy to be a gladiator like me” (p.152-153). Both the statements Tookie made on the John & Ken show and in the book are false because Tookie was arrested on March 15, 1979 for quadruple homicide, and at the time of his arrest he had already developed a reputation that was several years old of being a Crip on the streets of Los Angeles. Additionally, Raymond Washington was murdered on August 9, 1979, so it would have been impossible for Jimel Barnes to recruit Tookie to be a Crip after Raymond Washington had died, because Tookie had been incarcerated already for five months by this time, and the editors of that 1995 book should have caught that obvious discrepancy. Additionally, John & Ken should not have been so naive to give Barnes so much radio time to spread misinformation. JIMEL BARNES- HOW DO YOU COINCIDE THIS WITH WESTSIDE HISTORY, WHERE OG SWEETBACK DONALD AND JUDSON BAYCOT SAID TOOKIE WAS AT THE ST ANDREWS PARK IN 1971.??
Seems like he had a lot of influence and a lot of doing in the bringing out of the Crips... But seems like to me he was being forgotten about, put on the bacc burner and that's what made him upset. He was mad that other people was getting the credit and respect that he thought he deserved, so he decides to be a hater. Instead of getting in the picture and Shining and with the real ones...typical salty move.
To be this old and young in the head, you have to have spent decades in jail. How you never served time and you old and still a ting this young. You need to grow up old man.
PLdubselectuh 1 Its called the Sampson System. Imma break it down in the next video. Im working on a way to package it so the world can get Sampsonized! #OnThaQuickQuick
SAMPSON YOU BE MOVING ON THE QUICK QUICK SAMPSON IN THAT REAL OG NIGGA REAL CRIP CRIP THE MIGHTY SAMPSON COMES OUT SWINGING PUNK ASS BITCHES CANT FUCK WITH KING
As kids we use to see Jimel and Tookie walking around at the games and what not, big as fuck with their shirts off. People parted like the Red Sea when they saw them.
Justrynamakitrockawayblvd NO NO NO NO NO NO MANG..TOOKIE,SOME PEOPLE SAID WAS A PEDOPHILE..WHO FOOKED YOUNGENS IN THE ASS.IS IT TRUE? ONLY A FEW CLOSE TO HIM REALLY KNOW IF ITS TRUE OR NOT.I personally don't think he banged youngen..
Avalon Gardens is a hard ass project, they were the frontliners against the swans. the swans are located right next to the projects and used to put pressure on the avalons all the time
Mr. Barnes, I have seen a whole lot of your videos over the years. One thing you never went into detail about is how you started the Bloods. Youve stated many times on how your one of the only people who can officially throw up the B and the C. Can you explain this?
graffProdigy yeah I know that kind of Disturbed me,he's talking all this hate towards a dead man.i don't believe speaking on the dead, because they not here to defend they self.
Cuh I ain't from LA but I am apart of this Crippin especially where I'm from. And being a EastCide Coasta NH Crip, there are different stories n views on who and what started what. One thing EVERY EastCide n wEst Cide HomiEC Kno , especially if they are a real one. Tookie was not the founder he was a Co founder, basically he founded the first Cet, before they even called them Cets if u get what I'm saying, think of the wEst Cide as the first Cet, it is because it formed after the original formation now it wasn't considered one tho because Cets branched off the original wEst Cide, so it wasnt but it was if u get me, but Jimel Barnes was a EastCide original, along with Raymond it all started on the East Cide, they're alot of different views on it all but it all ends up coming bacc to it's roots, y'all know how tookie had that walk n size wit the two gangsta braids we call em loECs where I'm from the two plaits? Who y'all thinC had that first? The answer is Jimel Barnes cuh that whole swag they all had it but looC at it like this, everything that is in the Crips swagger, put Raymond Washington, Jimel Barnes, and Tookie Williams together, and Mac Thomas, everyone who was a leader N had a section before Cets was a thing, and I know they're more leaders this is a example tho. Raymond was the first to C walk, traditional leader, the one that'll save a blood from a pointless death, enemies evenn respect, but he will chec you in a heart beat if you out of line, old school mentality before the guns, your Hood my hood meet at the park after dark we going head up loser hangs it up n joins the others side, and Jimel Barnes big dude the braids n walk with style, the one that is always like "Aye where you from Cuh" presence felt. Young, same age, older don't matter homies behind him no matter where he goes it's respect. Kids from Avalon disrespect they mother or skip school they call him, and Tookie big super built cat like Jimel, but his own man, similar tho both have that walk you can see tookies in the jail video, but he had short hair for awhile, flag on at all times visible y? Because when they made the color officially blue , which they was wearing that most of the time anyway, tookie had a homie we call biC Morrow aka world wide known as buddah from Original wEst Cide that wore the uniform the Crips every single day blue chuccs, dark blue or beige diccies, white T, overalls, or full diccies outfit, but most stand outtish he had the blue rag in his LEFT bac poccet every day, so I will have to say the wEst Cide n tookie embraced the flag heavily, but Tookie n Jimel was said to be different but similar in size N swagger. Mac Thomas we are told if you look at how brothas n homies from Compton are Alpha dogs that was Mac Thomas of course he came in when the guns was starting to get heavy, leader and super big on Compton loved Cars. All of this is stories passed down and spread across America it's history man, these brothas influenced n started a culture some may say is negative especially out siders n Civilians of the movement. You can't judge a lion in the jungle his built on what his environmental surroundings are
This nigga was the 1st founder so forth raymond washington was rthis ogs homeboy.. And put on and fought raymond back in 1968 and Tookie was never there.. And tookie took his story and acted like he was the founder.. Makes tookie co founder cause Jamel raised Tookie but tookie being from the WS doesant make him Affiliated with Raymond.
+Jimel Barnes I agree with u I had 1 question did tookie come up in 1970s with raymond? cause if raymond got incarcerated in 72? how can tookie have formally net raymond tookie was probly a teenager when raymond was putting in work? name D from SJ C.A i heard about ur history big g keep what u do for the "community keeping the kids off the street stoping the violence.
yes big OG Cutes from the Mack 7 is still alive he literally was as big Tookies brother he was the only who could call tookie Stanley .Cutes, Big Mouse. Cool Rusty, young Lucky were all brother .Big Cutrs severed over 30ty years in some of the hardest prisons in California.all main line he paroled from main line.he has a clear head on L.A. gang history. Bearfoot, Cutes and Rusty would pull up inside of the same car with Raymond Washington in the early 1970's and turn shit out.If you don't know what means l can't help you.
it's a shame how some gang members twist this gang history. Bearfoot pooky said monkey man expanded his under ground crip fraction down to Florence not true.He only had a few blocks in the hundreds.the gang in 1972 and. 73 post westside crip split up who had most crip members was active Big 107 block OG Oddie. Big. Curtis 90. Hillbilly83trey. Sidewinder 83trey .Hunchie83.my og.big Baychocks little brother.78 hustlers Derten brothers gang mac7.Big Mouse.Cutes. Rusty. Garylane.Barny.Chucky Clairence hoover. Dinker crips at this time was parry m.oddie.cutes shot gun OT. Tee Bone . these active bangers controlled acorss centre Blvd going down into Florence and across at this time. Big Tookie ran Compton boys homes big red house.
it goes like this in 1972 Big Cutes Shot gun QT., T Bone, Raymond pott, Big Glen loose Booty acquired name at shoot out shot in butt; we fromed the Dinker Crips between in the 60ty. as Dinker Crips took parks from other gangs they voted big Cutes as leder. continue.
that's not tookie in that picture. Tookie looked way different at that time. The author said it's tookie but he doesn't know what he is talking about. He's a white ex cop
How could Tookie be a third generation crip when he was older than Raymond? They were comrades
JAMIL a damn 12 year old 60 yr old lol
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4th or 5th generation?....oh so negus was throwing up Crip in the 1800s?
A gen for LA gang members is about 10 years
Peyton Bell nigga you dumb if you think rookie was third generation anything
@@slizzle6632 Monster Kody said Tookie and Raymond pulled up to the hood in the same car. Tookie and Raymond were good friends; and real certified crips!!
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@@childrenofisrael7394 all early crips were good friends even though they didn't know each other because they had a bond. they were crips when crips were still one gang. Raymond and tookie barely knew each other even though they were driving in the same car in monster kodys story
Even if you went to San Quentin you wasn't going to do nothing to him
OG Pretty Boy!
@@mg_1of144 what up
Man jimel had cats walking behind him at every function didn’t know him just saw him all the time when something cracked
His presence stood out an he always acknowledged me with a what up I was a teenager great to see apart of history my history
I remember him and Tookie use to lift weights in Carver Park back in the day. Tookie was definitely the alpha dog.
What years was this?
No dog cuzz
This man is a habitual liar! He's told the lies so long he really believes them! Lmfao
Yesh i remember when Tookie had the boys home off of Stockwell and my best friend Debra H.was messing with Tookie...And i remember that big ole light nicca hanging with. Tookie and i recall he was Rookie Runner. That's real talk..
Cuz tripping hard...
I love OGs from that era. They was all about running fades. Damn I hate I missed that shit.
What's the name of the book that he said this stuff in?
Ikr!!!!
Tookie definitely knew Raymond. And Craig Monson is who inspired him to body build. Sounds like alot of animosity.
Malcolm Little how ..jimel knew them foreal foreal
Tookie stepped on Jimel in his last days in his book when Jimel knew Took wasn't gangsta and kept all his secrets. I still like both of them tho.
Oh, and Took didn't know no damn Raymond. They were just too different and LA too big. But nothing would have changed overall if they had linked up. Support.
@@gchecktv9194multiple ppl tell stories of both of them together
@@gchecktv9194 Stop smoking cracc
I believe OG Cutes.....this dude is a certified clown.....if this dude so tough do an interview with Cutes.......
Cutes knows that jimel was the man back in the day. That's why he changed his mood when he was talking to big huncho about jimel.
He do tough,you never hear him mentioned in any of the historical facts,no receipts, I use to see him in Compton back in the days,he difinetly wasn't on Tookie's level,nor any of the Og's back in those days,he was more like Madcot with the size and the body building,he hating on big Took,period.
M Kody said he knew both of them and he was with them on occasions. This dude never peeled out.
A BGF MEMBER said he saw Raymond and Tookie together a couple of times
They were always together!
TRUE FACTS THEY WAS ALWAYS TOGETHER
Yall know more than the people that was there lol
Damn big homie i hope you shake bacc you do have a place in history when it comes to Avalon even Tookie said that
He’s speaking in parables. Some guys are taking things literally. I hear everything he’s saying.
Yes. Aside from the claim that Tookie sodomized him everything else is credible once you realize he's speaking his truth in his own unique way. Yet, it's quite sad that he's still so young in the head at such an advanced age. He's actually upset with a dead man who's actions in question took place over 50 years ago. Wow!
I never here og's mention this guy in none of the interviews
They don't mention me because Im the OGs of the OGs and most of the ones that are being interviewed aren't the originals.
Tony, he was around. I assure you.ruclips.net/video/pNg9rkpD3EE/видео.htmlm34s
Now you know.
Thats right G! You know your history! Thanks for the Support.
Tony Montana because he's not a OG, Jimel is not a founding member of the Crips, he was not there in 1969 , I don't know where he gets 1968 from
Tony Montana They have mentioned you though Scarface Tony Montana
to still holding on to shit from 40 years ago,and you didn't want to see Big Tookie
Tookie is one of the original cofounder of the west side crips along ......the 1st person too bring tookie to the crip organization was Donald sweet back archer along with. Melvin farmer big james not James miller the brim killer to different ppl but u get my drift
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RUclips Donald Archie and Justin Boycott!
Dude I read that book more than 10 times and I've never seen that part in the book. But I'll take your word for it.
Desmond Lowery Don't! This brother has lost his mind, that incident never happened Jimel is confusing fantasy with reality
Don't believe this clown
Lol
Big Cutes would visit all crip Set :Qut 102. 118. Compton .block 107. N-hood. Vertis swan was his best friend in youth camp and on the set .little james was his home boy big jack too. James miller.and made friends after cco. blue note prison war he and james miller were cell mate in RJ.Donovan prison before his Dear left.
OG Big James miller was one crip all crips loved .He was one of the very first Crips who stood up to the BGF. He had heart .so he was Dear to all of us. a lot of people dont even know OG.Cutes mack 7. introduced to his wife Lisa.
You need to make a video and put them real facts out there to wash away all these misconceptions wanna be's and dysfunctional people are doing. #facts #rule
R.I.P. Ricardo Bell aka Ricki Bell December 3, 1973
Thats right yes may he rest in peace.
my family from hoover was telling about jb. when I was younger back in 96 I live in Dallas even the Zoe pound heard about this guy. he got respect
Did you know Craig Craddock?
Did Tookie really say that about him?
Jimel is a founder and they should of brought up him in the movie he is right
You’re a clown 4 believing this clown 🤡
@@ayee4258 you're stupid
What movie
@@Kosmouchkosmatakosmos Jamie foxx movie
3rd or 5th gen? Come on JB..
He said in another recording, that it was 2nd. Now it's "3rd or 5th"? That doesn't make sense. I don't know how c's describe generations, so I don't know what that would describe, but funny style it sounds
SANxJONERO it's 6ased on chain of command and levels... Im 4th generation... Founder 1st who dey put on 2nd, who 2nd put on 3rd in so on...
The big homie is tripping.
True history in 1974 we attended Washington High school 108 st. LA. I introduced you to Tookie .you and Big Mouse and Big Al would buff in my Den and Tookies back yard we would go flex on 69th. in western ave stop traffic hit the parks on weekends you.and l would roll the blv.in your white 65 lifted.God loves us mel.we don't need to say hurtful things about love ones. you were not a gang banger we were and l am sorry for that OG.Cutes keep up the good work and don't try to be more then you are .Your right God Is King.Peace.
Gilbert Bell you need to Holla at Kev Mac let the people know the Truth
where the movies at man???
What’s you’re program ?
NOW Tookie was a 3rd or 5th Gen Crip but u said he was a 2nd Generation Crip on one of the shows? I don't blame this guy about how he feels about Tookie..Only them two know the Real Story Not us...
Hes 2nd, 3rd, or 4th I just know he came after Raymond and I. He came on the scene after we buried Raymond (of which I was a pallbearer).
Jimel Barnes he can't have come after Raymond was dead because HE WAS IN PRISON AND YOU KNOW THIS, YOU ASKED PRETTY BOY FROM ROLLIN 60s HOW TOOKIE WAS DOING IN JAIL
@@dumuzidthemighty9377 TRUE FACTS KING HE TALKING SOME FUCCIN BULLSHIT RAY AND TOOKIE ARE ARE THE FOUNDERS WHICH THEM KING CRIPS , THIS FOOL TALKING CRAZY
You guys stop all the b.s. you're a youngsta. This is an OG. What's wrong wit you? Go to church
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A mentality like that is why alot of niggas fall off a cliff at a really young age. You trying to suppress people's free thinking, because he's an "OG" smh.
So I'm going to take a guess and say Raymond Washington can fight
Next Do a video about why you never wanted to fight John Seal from the Walnuts even though you was telling everyone you could whoop him and about the Time you got knocked out at a boxing Gym and tried to sue them 😂
The Godfather of Lies
Clayton Roberts this dude is fake not a rider tookie kicked his ass in his back yard in 1975 OG Cutes from the mack 7. gang
this dude is a buster tookies best friend OG .Cutes told me he stopped bulldog and big Smiley from 83 Hoover from smoking him in 1976
Gilbert Bell yes I've heard the story even Raymond had to get involved stop them Grooves from blasting Jimel, Jimel was never respected in LA by reputables they tried to murder him at one point that's probably why he hates Tookie so much because he's always wanted the respect that Tookie had, is OG Cutes still alive? are you related to him wasn't his real name Hildred Bell correct me if I'm wrong
with so many lies . maybe his brain is not right and he really believes his lies. Big Donald R. OG.Said",The Real Recognizes the real". Any OG Blood Or Crip knows this Fat ass buster is lying about his role as a member a founder of nothing .Cutes said,"this dude never put in any work" 60. Pretty had it right this dude is weak". Lets just shine him on because only other B----- Message truncated -----
gilbertbell888@gmail.com> wrote:
It's pretty pitiful this fat man rewrites gang history with so many lies . maybe his brain is not right and he really believes his lies. Big Donald R. OG.Said",The Real Recognizes the real". Any OG Blood Or Crip knows this Fat ass buster is lying about his role as a member a founder of nothing .Cutes said,"this dude never put in any work" 60. Pretty had it right this dude is weak". Lets just shine him on because only other busters believe his lies. the " Real Recognizes The Real".
He's the only survivor so that tells you this guy is a survivor
That man got the tookie special
I kinda believe what he saying if you put the facts together
Thanks for the support!
This dude just trying to get 15 minutes of fame. Hundreds of people have told their versions of Raymond, Tookie and the crips and he was never mentioned until he came home and started trying to come at Snoop but that didn’t work either. But honestly I just want to know why gangsters making videos.
Monster kody told a story when he 1st met dude when he was with tookie. So monster kody a liar too? Lmao
A lot old school Gs hate on brotha but also there’s certified GS that say he was one of the leaders
I understand what you are saying but that's the life you chose and if you choose the wrong things in life there are consequences see what happen to tookie I wish things could of been different for the both of you stay off the radio and stay on your knees you are getting older every day .don't you think its time for a change know matter what name you earn in the street always remember the last man that will be standing with the powerful name is God tookie is dead and gone let him rest in peace stop talking about the dead learn to live and for get and for give you will come a long way I will keep you in my payer
I appreciate the prayers and the only reason I am mentioning Tookie is to clear a few things up. Much love Ms Williams
Jimel Barnes. Im from Philly respect
I like the people from Philadelphia, they are some real folks. How are you doing?
Im good keep doin what you doin out here
Tammy Williams Jimel is Jealous of Tookie so he will never let things go, Hate borne from jealousy can never go away be because the person who's jealous will never be able excel or surpass the person who is hated that is what fuels their hatred, Tookies legacy and accomplishments overshadows everything Jimel has ever done in his life, that's why he makes up these ridiculous stories placing himself in the centre of LA gang history and always belittle Tookie but all of his fantasies are in his head, they never happened and nobody believes him, once more he has disgraced himself among real OGs Crips and Bloods who laugh at him, he's always been in Tookies shadow because he knows Big Took was the better MAN! RIP
I wonder who did Ray in?Someone he obviously was comfortable around who called his name out befr clipping him.
Tookie got the hoovers to blast him.. fucc tookie fucc him
What's up OOOG what's good with u
Jamel is the smartest no jail, no drugs, no addictions , no lost time. Keep going jamel.
I want to see him and t Rodgers meet ✌
not mad at you any more mel .your cousin Iron man and were cool you and l were cool l just felt angry after you said what youn said . you said God Bless Tookie so I now forgive you God bless OG .Big Cutes from the 7
Gilbert Bell Are you gonna do another interview with Kev Mac? I enjoy your stories. You’re one of my favorites.
Hey Cutes just wondering what happened to your brother big mouse bc I never heard you address it in any interviews? Thanks ✌🏾
Jimel is original Crip. Our uncle was the Birmingham guy who in early '60s migrated to Los Angeles and found the LA Brims, who wore blue before the Crips. Of course when Crips came in '68, they took the color blue because Brims were less than 25 deep and so small. I luv the originals.
tookie did what to og sampson ASS wtf
them Say sets are in dallas LA came to tha d. Its here fa show
That's why u still here n they ain't. U a smart OG u ain't in jail
Liar!!!!😂 OG pretty Boy from 60's said he's a mark and this is absolutely false Crip History!
sound like to Manu chiefs not enough indians. how they divided
Hope all is well Your Way O.G.
True: Your name rang bells all the way to Long Beach as did Freeway Ric, Took, Raymond and many others. Think ppl are missing the point in life. Gang Banging/Claiming/Affilitations etc, are destructive and prevent you from living life 2 the fullest. Im sure You have lost hundreds of Homies to these streets and Pennitentiaries. All for what?? To have a legacy that my own son is afraid of??
Idk Stay Up/Stay Strong GOD 1st
How TF BIG Took 3rd or 4th Gen BWHAHAHAHAHA 😂
peace brother...dont want to take anything away from the good brother jimmy lavender...but it seems as if Jimmy has sum sort of gripe with Raymond...first he said Raymond was knocked out by Craig Munson, which Jimmy was not there and when he told the story he so EMPHATIC and happy to tell the the story,come to find out it was not true. He said he ran into Craig the next day??? how convenient...he admitted to being an ex dope head....said Raymond Washington was not a good fighter but give props to Jimel whom credibility is completely shot...Jimmy never mentioned Raymond losing a fight that he JIMMY him self witnessed. Not saying Raymond cant lose a fight.Barefoot Pookie, said Raymond was a HOG, jimmy condescended that remark and said he wasn't. Ok....then when Kev asked Jimmy about whom he would considered the best fighter and or who he wanted to fight along side him,Jimmy said a brother by the name of BAD NEWS,then when Kev interviewed Bad News,Kev asked Bad News whom was a great fighter,he said BAREFOOT POOKIE, huh? So Barefoot credits Raymond, Bad News,credits Barefoot. But Jimmy Disses Raymond doesn't add up then Jimmy does a video allll about Raymond, he was not as close as he claims....he new him very well but that wasn't his friend it appear to me....ok Raymond was just another cat and average fighter...since when u know average guys get to sit at the table and eat at the house of the founders of at that time 1 of the biggest L.A. gang's the Bishops?? Dont make sense it is utterly sad that this man is 4gotten and sum times dissed...
you need to be shame of your self talking about you are the real OG you ant know better then tookie
Tammy Williams .well said I agree
There is no shame over here Ms Williams. I did know more than Tookie. I always said "If you have a problem with someone, solve it OG style, hand to hand and head up." Which I tried to teach him back then. I never asked to be The Real OG, it was a position that was earned through hundreds of fist fights, being shot up in 1971 and by earning my respect on the set from Compton to Watts. That title came with a lot of pain Ms Williams a pain that you would not know about Ms Williams and a pain that you could not have went through.
OG Jimel, What about Donald Archie, Judson Baycot, and Bob that can vouch for Tookie meeting Raymond at Saint Andrews Park ?? I know Eastside and Westside History brothers are saying different things... OG Pookie from Westside talks about the history of the 100s and the Smaks, Judson Baycot and Westside meetings, as far as West History- Tookie would be a Older brother to Barefoot... Enlighten me , Eastside cuzz, who can properly speak on Westside history... Westside is saying Took knew Raymond, and your saying they never Met??
Jimel- Talk to Judson Baycot, Bob, and Donald Archie, they said Tookie was at the Original St Andrews park meetings...
Barnes claims that he recruited Tookie in Compton in 1979/1980 and within 3-years he buffed him up with weights. Barnes makes this same claim in the 1995 book, Uprising in more detail where he states, “Later on after Raymond passed away, I wanted a twin brother, I wanted somebody to replace Raymond, so I went out and found this guy named Tookie and built him up from a little small guy to be a gladiator like me” (p.152-153). Both the statements Tookie made on the John & Ken show and in the book are false because Tookie was arrested on March 15, 1979 for quadruple homicide, and at the time of his arrest he had already developed a reputation that was several years old of being a Crip on the streets of Los Angeles. Additionally, Raymond Washington was murdered on August 9, 1979, so it would have been impossible for Jimel Barnes to recruit Tookie to be a Crip after Raymond Washington had died, because Tookie had been incarcerated already for five months by this time, and the editors of that 1995 book should have caught that obvious discrepancy. Additionally, John & Ken should not have been so naive to give Barnes so much radio time to spread misinformation. JIMEL BARNES- HOW DO YOU COINCIDE THIS WITH WESTSIDE HISTORY, WHERE OG SWEETBACK DONALD AND JUDSON BAYCOT SAID TOOKIE WAS AT THE ST ANDREWS PARK IN 1971.??
Seems like he had a lot of influence and a lot of doing in the bringing out of the Crips... But seems like to me he was being forgotten about, put on the bacc burner and that's what made him upset. He was mad that other people was getting the credit and respect that he thought he deserved, so he decides to be a hater. Instead of getting in the picture and Shining and with the real ones...typical salty move.
To be this old and young in the head, you have to have spent decades in jail. How you never served time and you old and still a ting this young. You need to grow up old man.
Yo what was your weight routine
PLdubselectuh 1 Its called the Sampson System. Imma break it down in the next video. Im working on a way to package it so the world can get Sampsonized! #OnThaQuickQuick
Jimel Barnes hell yeah G. Put that program up !!!
Yep Yep!
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SAMPSON YOU BE MOVING ON THE QUICK QUICK
SAMPSON IN THAT REAL OG NIGGA REAL CRIP CRIP
THE MIGHTY SAMPSON COMES OUT SWINGING
PUNK ASS BITCHES CANT FUCK WITH KING
As kids we use to see Jimel and Tookie walking around at the games and what not, big as fuck with their shirts off. People parted like the Red Sea when they saw them.
Sad jimel
Please explain
Justrynamakitrockawayblvd TRUTH JIMELLLLL
Justrynamakitrockawayblvd NO NO NO NO NO NO MANG..TOOKIE,SOME PEOPLE SAID WAS A PEDOPHILE..WHO FOOKED YOUNGENS IN THE ASS.IS IT TRUE? ONLY A FEW CLOSE TO HIM REALLY KNOW IF ITS TRUE OR NOT.I personally don't think he banged youngen..
Jimel Barnes did you know Craig monson?
Did you know BPJ from Hoover crip?
Jimel Barnes lying. With that lil project he from
Avalon Gardens is a hard ass project, they were the frontliners against the swans. the swans are located right next to the projects and used to put pressure on the avalons all the time
Keep em rolling.
Mr. Barnes, I have seen a whole lot of your videos over the years. One thing you never went into detail about is how you started the Bloods. Youve stated many times on how your one of the only people who can officially throw up the B and the C. Can you explain this?
Ren Johnson He was a originally a blood the crips shot him up and he became a crip afterwards
Dumbass
Respect to u for living through it ALL.
So much history embebed in THIS comments section....oooh wee
Mind is a terrible thing to waste
how many years for a generation? if it is 20,now not even 3rd generation.
They got by every few years I noticed.
Basically every 4 years of high-school
Can somebody tell him "Tookie" is DEAD! He has old timers.
graffProdigy its called Alzheimer's idiot
EDWARD WADE I know what it's called u fucking bozo... I don't remember asking the question.
graffProdigy are you butt hurt jackass? Why didnt you spell it right then bitch!
EDWARD WADE Bcuz it was a joke u idiot
graffProdigy yeah I know that kind of Disturbed me,he's talking all this hate towards a dead man.i don't believe speaking on the dead, because they not here to defend they self.
OOOG I thought he had u in the movie as someone who gave him a book to read an taught him a African language....
dog got some ham hocks
Thats right homie!
+Jimel Barnes respect oooo.g
Why are you lying? Just be you man. From what everyone is saying is you werent a punk. Just be proud of who you are. Apologize and move on
Spit it Og Barnes... MCL.
You just in your feelings. He left you out because you didn't send him no money probably 🤦🏼♂️
My question is what happen to Raymond and why
Someone put a bounty on him in exchange for something gang members did this all the time that y nobody saying nothing they playing dum
Cuh I ain't from LA but I am apart of this Crippin especially where I'm from. And being a EastCide Coasta NH Crip, there are different stories n views on who and what started what. One thing EVERY EastCide n wEst Cide HomiEC Kno , especially if they are a real one. Tookie was not the founder he was a Co founder, basically he founded the first Cet, before they even called them Cets if u get what I'm saying, think of the wEst Cide as the first Cet, it is because it formed after the original formation now it wasn't considered one tho because Cets branched off the original wEst Cide, so it wasnt but it was if u get me, but Jimel Barnes was a EastCide original, along with Raymond it all started on the East Cide, they're alot of different views on it all but it all ends up coming bacc to it's roots, y'all know how tookie had that walk n size wit the two gangsta braids we call em loECs where I'm from the two plaits? Who y'all thinC had that first? The answer is Jimel Barnes cuh that whole swag they all had it but looC at it like this, everything that is in the Crips swagger, put Raymond Washington, Jimel Barnes, and Tookie Williams together, and Mac Thomas, everyone who was a leader N had a section before Cets was a thing, and I know they're more leaders this is a example tho. Raymond was the first to C walk, traditional leader, the one that'll save a blood from a pointless death, enemies evenn respect, but he will chec you in a heart beat if you out of line, old school mentality before the guns, your Hood my hood meet at the park after dark we going head up loser hangs it up n joins the others side, and Jimel Barnes big dude the braids n walk with style, the one that is always like "Aye where you from Cuh" presence felt. Young, same age, older don't matter homies behind him no matter where he goes it's respect. Kids from Avalon disrespect they mother or skip school they call him, and Tookie big super built cat like Jimel, but his own man, similar tho both have that walk you can see tookies in the jail video, but he had short hair for awhile, flag on at all times visible y? Because when they made the color officially blue , which they was wearing that most of the time anyway, tookie had a homie we call biC Morrow aka world wide known as buddah from Original wEst Cide that wore the uniform the Crips every single day blue chuccs, dark blue or beige diccies, white T, overalls, or full diccies outfit, but most stand outtish he had the blue rag in his LEFT bac poccet every day, so I will have to say the wEst Cide n tookie embraced the flag heavily, but Tookie n Jimel was said to be different but similar in size N swagger. Mac Thomas we are told if you look at how brothas n homies from Compton are Alpha dogs that was Mac Thomas of course he came in when the guns was starting to get heavy, leader and super big on Compton loved Cars. All of this is stories passed down and spread across America it's history man, these brothas influenced n started a culture some may say is negative especially out siders n Civilians of the movement. You can't judge a lion in the jungle his built on what his environmental surroundings are
Damn OG is this shit real?
buster
Awwk awwk
Jimel should have been President
That fool said tookie was a 4th 5th generation crip lol I'm done with this dude. East Side Crips all yall hold this L
YEAH THAT IDIOT CAME OUT HIS MOUTH THAT NONSENSE, BIG TOOKIE AND KING RAY ARE KING CRIPS THEY DISCOVERED HIS ASS . THIS FOOL TALKING LIES
Tookie didn't discover jimel. That's a bold face lie
Who's Waymond?
Stop being disrespectful
Dam bro u hate tookie and dude gone bruh. if you a tru Child of god Let it go
This nigga was the 1st founder so forth raymond washington was rthis ogs homeboy.. And put on and fought raymond back in 1968 and Tookie was never there.. And tookie took his story and acted like he was the founder.. Makes tookie co founder cause Jamel raised Tookie but tookie being from the WS doesant make him Affiliated with Raymond.
Pretty much! Who are you homie! You. know whats up! Y'all niggas are coming with the real without hot sauce or ketchup!
+Jimel Barnes I agree with u I had 1 question did tookie come up in 1970s with raymond? cause if raymond got incarcerated in 72? how can tookie have formally net raymond tookie was probly a teenager when raymond was putting in work? name D from SJ C.A i heard about ur history big g keep what u do for the "community keeping the kids off the street stoping the violence.
Wait..Tookie said he did what to this man?
I read Tookies book and believe me he NEVER said that bullsh*t lol jimel is bugging the fuck out!!!
@@erictubbs6854 😂😂😂😄😄😅
Never read anything like that.
Cmon cuzz... Tookie got flix with Raymond. You trippin homie.. Big Zane done told some other shit too. smh.
There aren't any pictures of tookie and Raymond together
The peoples OG
Nigga it was more about the West Side Crips anyway
tookie was gay and crips hate to admit that
yes big OG Cutes from the Mack 7 is still alive he literally was as big Tookies brother he was the only who could call tookie Stanley .Cutes, Big Mouse. Cool Rusty, young Lucky were all brother .Big Cutrs severed over 30ty years in some of the hardest prisons in California.all main line he paroled from main line.he has a clear head on L.A. gang history. Bearfoot, Cutes and Rusty would pull up inside of the same car with Raymond Washington in the early 1970's and turn shit out.If you don't know what means l can't help you.
Gilbert Bell you spoke on things I’ve never herd your the truth
it's a shame how some gang members twist this gang history. Bearfoot pooky said monkey man expanded his under ground crip fraction down to Florence not true.He only had a few blocks in the hundreds.the gang in 1972 and. 73 post westside crip split up who had most crip members was active Big 107 block OG Oddie. Big. Curtis 90. Hillbilly83trey. Sidewinder 83trey .Hunchie83.my og.big Baychocks little brother.78 hustlers Derten brothers gang mac7.Big Mouse.Cutes. Rusty. Garylane.Barny.Chucky Clairence hoover. Dinker crips at this time was parry m.oddie.cutes shot gun OT. Tee Bone . these active bangers controlled acorss centre Blvd going down into Florence and across at this time. Big Tookie ran Compton boys homes big red house.
Gilbert Bell man my pops always say Perry M started 60s but I’m like i never herd of him man lace me with your knowledge G
it goes like this in 1972 Big Cutes Shot gun QT., T Bone, Raymond pott, Big Glen loose Booty acquired name at shoot out shot in butt; we fromed the Dinker Crips between in the 60ty. as Dinker Crips took parks from other gangs they voted big Cutes as leder. continue.
Gilbert Bell feed me you got the info I’m waiting for more this is awesome
Yall keep talking bout jimel..bought he really did know Tookie and Raymond thats why they mad..
All lies. Look at the book "I am Raymond Washington". If Took didnt know Raymond why is Took in the picture with Raymond on the cover? Stay woke.
that's not tookie in that picture. Tookie looked way different at that time.
The author said it's tookie but he doesn't know what he is talking about. He's a white ex cop
Fool I'm cripping fool
THA THA powder
The og
Sandra Kuhn - #91833 is this right? To get your supreme doc, I can help draft a foia. Good morals salute
Tell them about that time you got beat up by one them Foster boys in Compton
Pirus?
@@t_challathagod172 no they was crisp from 126 st
lies