"Kanto" Pokemon that AREN'T from Kanto! (in Gen 1)
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
- It's more than just Mew! There are actually dozens of Pokemon you can't catch in the wild in Kanto, which suggests that they aren't even from the region at all!
But...how could Gen 1 Pokemon be from another region when there was only 1 region in the entire franchise?!
(BONUS POINTS TO THE FIRST PERSON TO FIND WHICH POKEMON I ACCIDENTALLY USED THE JAPANESE SPRITE FOR!...it's a tough one to find, which is why I didn't notice it until it was too late! lol)
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0:00 Intro
0:40 Glitch-only Pokemon
1:39 Fossil Pokemon
2:26 Gift Pokemon
3:55 In-game Trades
5:07 Safari Zone
6:19 All the Pokemon not catchable in the wild in Kanto
7:31 Caveats
8:03 Outro
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Thanks for the information, professor! I will be more mindful in supporting domestic Pokémon from now on! :D
I must not be the first to catch it since I'm watching this pretty late, but that Articuno sprite is definitely from the Japanese versions. It only took a minute to find after reading the description. I wonder why they were even changed in the first place, the differences are often only minor, but I definitely remembered Articuno crying with his beak majestically open in the versions I played. For that, I am proud and ashamed.
Interesting style of video, and fits well on the channel. I'm happy to see people are watching as well! Keep going! :)
YOU FOUND IT! =D
Congratulations, Mr. Whiskers! You have an incredible eye. I'm glad someone managed to find it! Though I guess now I know all my mistakes will be discovered...oh well! haha
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and I've also been thrilled by the response. I shall indeed keep going!!
Haha, yay me! :) But it's hardly a mistake. Had you not challenged people to find it, I wouldn't have noticed anything odd in this video.
But worry not! Based on some of the comments there are many nerd detectives watching to call out all the inaccuracies. Fun! :D
@@M1sterWhiskers ahaha, I love the detectives! That's what keeps things interesting! =D
Lapras and Farfetch’d are given canonical reasons as to why they’re not found in the wild. Both were hunted to near extinction in Kanto.
Definitely! It's interesting that Lapras ends up being found in a cave rather than "out at sea" (which would probably make more sense)...maybe they're still pretty endangered in Johto, and are hiding out in a cave.
...only to be caught by the player characters...ouch
@@BabusGameRoom My favourite aspect is that Gen 7/Alola makes a point of specifying in the Pokédex that Lapras is now abundant within the wild due to conservation efforts. Seeing as Let’s Go is also a Gen 7 game, it can also act as a reason as to why Lapras and the other Pokémon can now be found in the wild.
@@BabusGameRoom Maybe Lapras showing up in a cave was a nod to the Lapras in Super Mario 64.
@@logan_wolfTHE PLESIOSAUR'S NAME IS DORRIE /lh
@@mightywaranvil2912 Ah, yes, I had forgotten. But that sounds about right.
Oh, huh. I never even thought about it but yeah, the safari zone would logically be stocked with non-native pokémon, wouldn't it? Red just went to the zoo, saw essentially an African rhinocerous, and recorded a new "native animal."
Well, we didn't notice it back when we were kids either! haha
But now's the time to correct our past mistakes!
Bro saying ‘Kanto’ like he’s sponsored.
Gotta' get in on that Silph Co. money!
I think he is saying it like it's supposed to be said. I don't know though. It is based off of a Japanese region
@@Amongussussy12345The Japanese region is pronounced with a long a (first syllable sounds more like con than can), I have no idea where his different syllable stress comes from
The ending -to is not pronounced as the Japanese region. The vowels in Japanese are not diphthongs by default. Something special is needed to make a single vowel turn into a diphthong. English, on the other hand, has a lot of diphthongs. Words ending in "O" are frequently diphthongs, e.g. _hello_
I can chime in on this because I've studied a bit of linguistics -- The two vowels in "Kanto" aren't actually present (or at least common) in a lot of North American accents! The 'a' is closest to half of the word "I" (as in "me, myself, and I"), and the o is pronounced without the closing "w" that is done in English (especially when the o in question is at the end of a word)
It's kind of unnatural to shift between two phonemic inventories when speaking one language, hence why a lot of people will say things like "SOO-she" for sushi instead of すし, sometimes even if they know better.
As well, in my accent (a Canadian one), "con" sounds nothing like how "Ka[n]" should be pronounced in Kanto. I could see the resemblance in the General American accent, but it's still not the same sound.
But either way...it's the way that I grew up saying it, and I don't think it was pronounced anywhere for us for a looong time. Everyone I knew said it that way, just like everyone said "ta-ma-GOT-chi" when it probably "should" be pronounced "ta-ma-GO-chi" based on Japanese.
I think you can tell who's been around since Gen 2 or if they're newer to the franchise based on how they pronounce Kanto!
These kinds of language things are fun to me, haha
Eevee is obtainable in Black 2 and White 2
Edit: Also, beating Snorlax gives the text "Snorlax calmed down. It gave a huge yawn... And returned to the mountains." Since none of the routes have you go over the mountains, only through caves, it's implied that Snorlax live atop the mountain Rock Tunnel cuts through.
That's true! I've since learned that the B2W2 Pokemon are explicitly non-native though. I've been back and forth on where to place Eevee, haha
You're also right about Snorlax. It's kind of hard to imagine a battle-injured Snorlax going on such a long journey though, haha
(though Rock Tunnel is a lot closer than the Sinnoh that a lot of people have mentioned!)
you forget there's literally a mountain range separating kanto from joto.
Good old fashioned make the pokemon rare just for the sake of it being rare, but logically Snorlax should be catchable in the Mountain range/peaks of Mt. Moon, Rock Tunnel, Mt. Silver, Tohjo Falls, and route 27/26. You just only encounter a few that walk down from the mountains.
Small correction: Eevee is catchable in Gen V’s Castelia Park in both Black 2 and White 2
Thank you for that correction! I must've glossed over that because they're also received as a gift in Castelia City. Interesting spot, and still far removed from Kanto!
even in gen 4 in that rich mansion garden near hearthome city 🤓
@@nasimahm3d That's true! Though I thought that one felt a bit too much like "a Safari Zone" to truly count as "in the wild", haha
Maybe they're feral
The Eevees in Castelia are implied to be escaped pets, all of the Pokemon there are very pet-like.
even if we ignore the catchability of these pokemon in future remakes, it should be noted that both tauros and mr. mime are referred to as kanto or kantonian form in future games when compared to regional variant. this would signify to me that they are definitely native to kanto
To me, it signifies that Game Freak did even less research than I did for these two videos!
(or more realistically, they took the easy way out and referred to the Pokemon as Kantonian simply because of their generation, with Gen 1 meaning Kanto)
If Houndour or Murkrow ever get a new form, I doubt the originals would be called Kantonian; they'd be Johtonian...but they're nowhere to be found in Johto!
@@BabusGameRoom I think Game Freak didn't want to put every Kanto Pokemon in the wild so that you could only get them through special means. Its a huge assumption to say that because you can't find in it in the wild in the game, then, it must be from outside Kanto. Unless specifically stated, any pokemon that can't be found in the wild in the game, could mean that the particular pokemon is in a region the game doesn't give you access too.
The safari zone is essentially a zoo.
And most zoos have a mix of native and exotic animals.
Seeing Pokemon like Nidoran and Psyduck are just like seeing a squirrel and duck that just happen to be in the park
That's true, zoos do tend to have native animals too! You would expect to be able to find the native animals somewhere in the wild, though.
It could be that some of the Safari Zone Pokemon are endangered in Kanto, though. I hadn't considered that! 😮
@@raziphaz2219 To be fair, Nidoran are actually pretty rare in Kanto!
...well, not in Yellow. I almost considered the possibility that they were invasive species that somehow got out in Viridian! lol
Less Zoo more nature reserve
Most of the zoos in Australia have native animals that are near extinct in the wild.
You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who's seen a Tasmanian Devil was outside a zoo, for example. And that's an animal literally named after an Australian state.
In fact, of the four zoos in Melbourne, two of them exclusively have native fauna.
if i remember correctly Porygon can technically count as kanto native since the upgrade item was developed directly by Silph, so by logical consequence, Silph may have been behind the creation of Porygon as a whole
That's true! It would definitely be a Kanto Pokemon, just not one native to the wild. Which makes sense for a digital Pokemon.
Basicly the same case as mewtwo imo
Exeggute and exeggutor are definitely originally native to Alola, according to the later pokedexes.
The weirdest thing about it is that Exeggcute apparently grow from Exeggutor heads falling off, right? So how did they travel so far? It's not like Exeggcute heads are small or light enough to pass by in the air or attached to travelling people or Pokemon...
Hmmm....
@@BabusGameRoomimporting
@@madnessarcade7447 It could be!
Well they were brought to Kanto for the Safari Zone, as you stated yourself in the video ;)
Maybe they are good at swimming, perhaps they're even cracked.
Porygon is also man-made in Kanto, the Pocket Monsters Encyclopedia (a guide for the game which DYKG made a video about), as it says it was developed in Silph Co.
Also, Porygon was made catchable in the wild in Let's Go, around Celadon City
That's a great point! (And DYKG is awesome!)
Yeah, I was looking for this comment... even in-game text says it is the first pokemon to be 100% designed in a computer.
That makes porygon part of the very exclusive engineered species list alongside mewtwo
It's also catchable in ORAS, in one of the mirage islands.
farfetch'd is a bird, and like MANY birds, it could simply be that it is a migratory bird that is "out of season" at the moment your adventure happens.
That's true! And it was in-season in Yellow...must've been Rabbit Season in R/B/G...
@@BabusGameRoom😂
I see what you did there
Well played hahaha
gen 2 is very similar because a lot of johto pokemon can only be caught in the kanto post game of gold and silver.
Oh man, Johto is probably the biggest offender in the entire series!
On the one hand, it was a great way to keep players motivated to play through the post-game. On the other hand, giving players access to rare Kanto Pokemon that weren't in Johto probably would've been enough! lol
I always thought of the safari zone as like a nature reserve. The Pokemon there are native to Kanto but are endangered, or maybe they aren't endangered but their habitat is in that area which the Kanto government deemed "protected."
That's why you have to use the special balls and you can't fight them like normal wild battles.
That's true! I guess it would depend on whether or not those Pokemon usually show up together in the same kinds of environments in other games...
Actually, a good portion of the Pokemon in this video can be captured in Lets Go Eevee/Pikachu through the Special Spawns, Porygon can be caught on the routes East and West of Saffron, the Hitmons can be caught in Cerulean Cave, and Eevee can be caught on Cycling Road. In addition, Diamond/Pearl are the first games you can Catch Eevee, as it is one of the possible daily spawns in the Trophy Garden Mr Backlot tells you about, but only in the postgame. And you can also catch wild Porygon in a single island in ORAS, but it can only be reached via Soaring on your Lati in the postgame.
The Let's Go games are borderline non-canon...at least for my list! Haha
If you haven't yet, you should check out my follow-up video on this where I discuss some of the alternate locations!
@@BabusGameRoom their canonicity isn't really important as everything is technically canon, just alternate universes to each other. lgpe are mainline games, though, and that was the point that had been made.
The starters are from Pokémon Island (Pokémon Snap). Also, Lapras is also found in the Sevii Islands, so it could be from there- within the Kanto region.
A few months back, I actually researched all gift Pokémon in the series and determined where each was most likely to come from. I don't intend to ever make a video on the subject, but I want my knowledge to get out there. Babu, if you see this comment, can I send you my spreadsheet and notes?
Hey there! Thanks so much for offering to share your knowledge! I'd be happy to see it, but I think RUclips automatically removes any comment with anything that looks like a link or an email address.
You can reach out by email. It's the channel's name, all one word, without spaces or punctuation. If I don't reply in a few days, that means I didn't get it. Feel free to ping me here if that's the case.
@@BabusGameRoom I shared my Google Drive files with you directly. Let me know if you got them! Feel free to use or disagree with any of it. As I said, I just want my knowledge to get out there!
@@Draezeth Got them! Thanks so much! I'll be taking a look later this weekend =)
I do want to say.
1. While it was first catchable in the wild in GSC, it's ONLY in Kanto in that game. Mr. Mime is still catchable in Kanto originally then. It's also in Kanto in the Let's Go games.
2. The Manga(which is very very close to the games original vision) describes the Safari Zone as like a preserve with trophy hunting for funding, and this is backed by the anime(albeit the anime splits the game reverse and protection side of things into separate areas). And while you described Safari's as 'foreign', that's a very North American perspective. If you live in Kenya or Tanzania or something, these protected areas(which DO often offer limited hunting permits, either for population control or to eliminate old infertile troublemakers) are still native to the area.
3. Porygon was invented by Silph Co, which is a Kanto based organization, just a few months before the game takes place according to the 1997 Pokedex book.
I'd also argue the legendaries are fine.
Great points! Particularly about the Safari Zone. Given that Kanto is supposed to represent part of Japan, it does seem likely that a Safari region there would be more like the ones I'm familiar with in Canada. But it's hard to say -- it could go either way, I think.
(I'd actually argue, given that they only show up in the Whirl Islands weekly seemingly as part of a migratory route, that the first 'native' dwelling of the Lapras we see is the Sevii Islands. But they are still probably native to Kanto and Johto and just extirpated due to the whole, endangered species, thing)
Yeah, the Sevii Islands or even just the oceans in general are probably the best place for Lapras
@@BabusGameRoom I personally think they are native to Kanto-Johto, and are just extirpated
Oh! Lovely to see another Ontarian in the Pokemon community. That African Lion Safari name drop brought back loads of memories.
Woohoo! Maybe we know the same TV jingles too...Sleep Country Ca-na-da~ lmao
I think Mr. Backlot lets you catch Porygon in Gen 4, but I wouldn't call them native to Sinnoh....
Agreed, I don't think they're really "out in the wild" even in Gen 4
In Gen 6 you can catch it on Wonderislands in ORAS
There are also loads of pokemon introduced later on that are native to Kanto, mainly evolutions & pre evolutions of gen 1. pokemon.
Oh dear, why do I always forget about those? haha #genWunner lol
So if Mr Mime was not catchable in Kanto in gen 1 but he WAS catchable in Kanto in gen 2 which is canonically set chronologically a few years after the events of gen 1... does that make Mr Mime an invasive species in Kanto?
Invasive, migratory, hiding, hibernating...who knows? ahaha
Though they did seem to push Tangela out of the route, IIRC...
It's kinda like how Murkrow, Houndour and others are available in kanto, but only in gsc. They are invasive species. Murkrows come from Sinnoh, Slugma from Hoenn and my headcanon is that Houndour is from Paldea
One thing to question you about since I am a follow Gen 1'er. Wasn't Porygon the first artificial pokemon to have ever been created through computer programming? Doesn't that mean it was created in Kanto?
It would mean that it was created in Kanto! But they don't exist in the wild in Kanto. Porygon is just a weird Pokemon...
But can we say for certain that it was created in Kanto? It may or may not be Team Rocket that produced them. They could've just stolen Porygon from wherever they were made, then put them for "sale" in their Game Corner.
Porygon should probably be a special case that's separate from the other gift Pokemon. It's really hard to place, haha
@@BabusGameRoom The item description for the Up-Grade says it was made by Silph Co., and since the upgraded Porygon is called Porygon 2, I would assume Silph made Porygon 1
@@monopolyrubix1875 True, but software upgrades don't always have to be made by the same authors as the original software: I mean, look at open source software projects. Plenty of developers from all around the world can contribute to those, not just those native to the same country or region as the developers who originally started those projects.
Technically speaking Legends Arceus is a mainline game, you can capture porygon within the timespace distortions which is the only instance I know of where you can capture one in the wild. But Legends Arceus makes things a little weird with its timy whimy/paradoxy insanity.
Yeah, a time-space paradox sounds like something that'd be...not normally part of a region! haha
And in Blueberry Academy in Gen 9
Just an itty bitty sorta correction depending on how you look at it: Porygon can be caught in the wild in the most recent DLC for Pokemon Scarlet and Violet as well as the Trophy Garden in Diamond and Pearl (remakes have this too). Notably though the implications in all of those is humans released them there to be caught so...
Also some Mirage Spots in OR/AS as well have Porygon as wild encounters.
You're definitely right! I go into these (and the Mirage Spots that @AceAviations2 mentioned) in the follow-up video!
Each area has its own reason why they're not exactly "wild", at least in my opinion, haha
2:45. Eevee can be caught in BW2 in Castelia Park and in all Sinnoh games in the Trophy Garden after the national dex. As for Porygon, you can catch it in Trophy Garden in all gen 4 except Platinum and White in White Forest and Route 7 in Let's Go.
You're right! You might be interested in the follow-up video to this one where I go into more detail on these! =D
Porygon has been catchable for years
Not in the "regular" wild! If you haven't yet, you might want to check out my follow-up video where I go more detail into where these Pokemon might be from!
Eevee has a 5% rate to appear in Gen V's Castelia Park so it was available in the wild before Gen VI but only in one location.
That's true!
I addressed this in the follow-up video, but I think I'll have to address it AGAIN in another follow-up video, ahaha
It's especially funny with how Pokemon Go will be like "Catch X number of Pokemon originally discovered in the Kanto region" when clearly a good number of them werent actually originally discovered there XD
Yup! haha
The best part about it is catching the Alolan forms of Kanto Pokemon...those still check off the box! haha
I caught a Charmander in a cave in Pokemon let's go eeve. I like to think its popularity as a pokemon plus the documented cases of abandoned charmanders led it to become an invasive species
That could definitely be the case!
Breed-and-release has been popular for Pokemon, especially starters, for a while!
A nice follow-up would be theories on where these Pokémon are actually from
well most seem like they were imported from Johto since Dratini, Tauros, Exeggcute, Scyther, Pinsir, and Lapras are all wild over there.
He mentioned in the video Mr. Mime and Kangaskhan are found wild in Kanto, but only after gen II. I think Mr. Mime, Kangaskhan, Snorlax, Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee are all originally from Sinnoh. Mr. Mime, Snorlax and the Hitmons all have their pre evolved forms found wild there. Kangaskhan is found wild in Kanto, along with Mr. Mime, in gen II but i think its safe to call them invasive imports since they are next found naturally in Sinnoh.
Eevee are Trade pokemon for a long time and i believe them to only be native to Kalos. I feel like they are more like stocked game in Castelia Park in B2W2, so i dont think its safe to say they're from there.
Since Porygon and Mewtwo are both man made pokemon, its hard to really give them a native location. The three legendary birds are definitely native to Kanto, just like all legendries in their respective games/locations. I honestly think its safe to say the three starters are in fact Kanto natives, theres a lot of evidence between future games and the anime to suggest such. They just aren't catchable in the first gen. Likewise Kabuto and Omanyte are extinct, but are certainly originally from Kanto.
Aerodactyl is a tough one, it is always revived from amber given to the player from a lab or museum. The description from Ultra Moon states: "It flew through the open skies over ***the ancient continent*** as if they were its own." This wouldn't refer to Alola, since the islands wouldn't have been formed yet, so i get the feeling there is some conjecture that there was once a pokemon version of Pangea that Aerodactyl is from, meaning its origin didnt exist in any one region of the modern era.
Thanks for that! I'm glad to see that there's interest in that! =D
I actually had a longer version of the script where I offered some theories, but cut it out to keep this video snappier. I wasn't sure if people would want to listen to those explanations in this video, but I'm getting some great feedback. =)
@@X4Alpha4X These are great theories, and you've definitely done your homework! haha
I think I'm in agreement with most of what you've said here. I think the weirdest ones are the "Gen 2 Kanto Exclusive" Gen 1 Pokemon...Kangaskhan could make sense in Kanto (as I'm a believer of the Cubone as a baby Kangaskhan theory), but Mr. Mime has no excuse for being absent from the wild in Gen 1! lol
@@BabusGameRoom hey i appreciate it! and the theory that cubone is a young Kangaskhan is a fun one id like to believe as well. i was just using in game locations to make my conclusions tho.
Mew is native to space/everywhere. At the start of life in the Pokémon world, it was nothing but Mew. It then went on to evolve into every Pokémon ever
3:32 according to the anime professors get the starters from special breeding farms in the region
Although not stated I think it’s similar in the games too
Hmm..."special breeding farms" must be player characters breeding for shinies! ahaha
@@BabusGameRoomnah
Porygon is man-made but I guess it's possible for them to be feral because you do see "wild" Porygon on Pokemon Island during Pokemon Snap's river level.
Gotta' wonder who'd release them after spending thousands of Game Corner coins! haha
Well that was a refreshingly cute modest and sincere little video. Reminds me of the funny oddities that used to be pointed out a lot but this is especially something barely anyone would think about or question. Now how about those johto pokemon who only appear in kanto in gen 2?
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! =D
The video about the oddities of Johto Pokemon is now up as of ~8 minutes ago! =D
I find it interesting that the algorithm picked up the second video in this miniseries so much harder than this one (currently it has 5x the views). Hopefully this end up being the launching point of a more lucrative youtube career for you.
Good luck!
haha, thank you so much! =D
I think the title (and maybe the thumbnail) helped make it more attractive to click on. As well, there was a lot more for people to disagree on in the second video, which spurred up lots of activity in the comments. Not that disagreeing is a bad thing -- I definitely made some obvious mistakes in the second video, and I did take some "controversial stances", haha
@@BabusGameRoom that's true. People can't help but correct others 😅
Going by the anime would be even more restrictive- scratching to find twenty pokemon bulbasaur, primeape, Mr Mime, pikachu, caterpie, weedle,dragonair, lickatu n g., dudtrio, pigdgey, spearow.
The anime would probably fill in a lot of gaps left by the games. And the side games would fill in pretty much every gap. I think every Pokemon is native to Kanto in Pokemon Pinball, for instance..haha
Of the Pokémon listed as not native to Kanto, the Exeggcute line would be an invasive species (being from Alola), Porygon, like Mewtwo, is a Kanto native (being an artificial Pokémon), and Mr. Mime could follow the same logic as Exeggcute (having both a cross-region evolution and regional variant). Every other non-legendary and non-fossil Pokémon on the list could be considered endangered species.
The "Exeggcute as an invasive species" thing makes sense from the later Dex entries, but it's kind of hard to wrap my head around how that could happen. They're born from Exeggutor heads that have fallen off, right? And the seeds seem too big to fly through the air or hitch rides on other Pokemon...
Hmm...maybe they hitch a ride in Chanseys? lol
I think "Endangered" is a fair classification. I think it could even work for version exclusives!
The existence of the anime shatters this theory into smithereens. I just don’t think Red and Blue covered all of Kanto like Ash did
The anime exists in a different canon than the games. When you can beat Brock by activating the sprinklers and aiming for the horn with Pikachu's Thundershock, then I'll consider them merged...haha
I literally was just having a conversation with a buddy like last week about Mr. Mime specifically (but some species in general) not actually being native to kanto. Glad I'm not crazy!
What a coincidence! haha
And yeah, Mr. Mime is one of the worst offenders!
It gets even more fun when we start looking at the Johto Pokemon... haha
I find it odd you'd count Porygon as "not native," as it was first created in the lab at Cinnabar Island, but you don't mention Ditto (which, according to some theories, was created in the same lab, as a failed first-attempt at cloning Mew), since it's mostly found in the Cerulean Cave (where Mewtwo escaped to after it broke out of the lab) and the Pokemon Mansion (the lab where Mewtwo was created) in Yellow
My definition was basically "Infinitely catchable in the wild", but that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, haha
Ditto is infinitely catchable in a normal route in R/B, but you're definitely right that I overlooked it as a non-native Pokemon. It's not a "regular native Pokemon" like Pidgey or Zubat. But it does meet the "infinitely catchable in a normal wild area" definition.
Pretty cool video. Hope to possibly see more of these videos on potentially future generations. Maybe even if a Johto video is done, seeing if perhaps some of the Kanto pokemon not found in the wild could have came from there given how the regions aren't too far off and some animal species can travel during certain parts of the year. While Mr.Mime being on vacation is clearly more of a joke it could certainly have been the case.
Thanks so much; I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I actually cut out a decent part of the script where I talked about where each Pokemon could've come from if not Kanto. I wanted to talk about it, but I felt that it hurt the pacing of the video. I'm glad to see at least one person would be interested in this! =D
@@BabusGameRoom I think that would make for a great follow up video idea. someone else made a comment earlier asking for a follow-up theory on their origins. I went ahead and looked into it myself and wrote them a reply. it was actually pretty fun looking into where they all probably came from.
@@X4Alpha4X I found your reply as well -- it was a great comment; thank you for that!
I'm glad you enjoyed looking up those things too...makes me feel like I'm not the only one who's nerdy enough to do it! ahaha
African Lion Safari! Let's go. It's been 10 years since I was last year. Sweet memories.
It's WAY better than the Gen 1 Safari Zone! Haha
There*
I must have been tired writing this.
This is pretty interesting. very cool video, I can’t wait to see more!
Thanks so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Wow. This is such an amazing theory. I would never had thought about it like that before. My mind is definitely blown.
I'm glad to have blown your mind! =D
Porygon can be found in White forest in White, and Mirage Island/Mirage Mountain in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
If you haven't already, you might want to check my follow-up to this video where I go into more detail about those! =D
Finally someone saying this. I think what makes a Mon native, they should be caught in the wild. Like Eevee is a gen 1 Mon, but I consider it native to places like Sinnoh or Kalos.
Exactly! A Gen 1 Pokemon isn't necessarily a Kanto Pokemon!!
Loved this video and your other one on where they’re from. Subbed your channel. Would like to see more like this. I haven’t seen others making this kind of content and it is really good.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed them!
There's definitely more like this coming!
This morning, I was literally thinking about Pokemon endemic to regions; like how how you can find Kanto Pokemon in other regions but not vice-versa, and then I find these videos
haha, that's awesome! I'm glad you found them!
Porygon is also manmade and thus probably manmade in Kanto too!
Oof, great point!
To be fair, Mewtwo lives in the wild, but Porygon seems to be made to order. Especially at its cost.
Porygon is such a weird Pokemon. Are there any other Pokemon like Porygon that are explicitly manmade but not available in the wild at all?
@@BabusGameRoom I don't know about later games, but Castform isn't catchable in Hoenn and I think was made by Weather Institute people
@@RyoCaliente Oh, that's right!! I always forget about Castform because it's so disappointing. I always want to use one in Gen 3, but ugh...I guess weather isn't usually that great in-game, and it's not like Castform has the stats to take advantage of it, lol
@@RyoCaliente I'm not sure about Castform being manmade?
@@BabusGameRoom Yeahhh, not good enough for competitive, and a little too much setup for main game
There are other examples of pokemon not from the region they were introduced in in other games, such as Coprhish ins RSE as well as Cufant in SwSh. I can't think of any others, but would be curious to see if there are more. It's also a little sad to me that things like that haven't been followed up on yet. We could have had a corphish variant by now, or an explanation of where it came from.
Those are going to be the hardest ones to find because it requires reading the dex entries. And it's not like a simple Ctrl+F over all the entries would help, since there's no obvious key word to search for that'd capture all "non-native" species like Corphish!
But that does seem like a bit of an oversight on Game Freak's part...
Interesting video! As the series has gone on I think Gamefreak has only leaned more and more into the logical conclusion that not all pokemon in a region are necessarily native to that region, especially with Alolan Exeggutor almost being implied to be the true version of them(I swore i heard that it *was* the original version but couldn't find anything that actually outright confirmed it). A follow up either about other regions featuring similar not-truly-regional pokemon or a video speculating where certain mons *did* come from would it interesting! Good luck on your channel!
I feel like I've heard the same thing about the Alolan Exeggutor. As well, Yungoos is explicitly mentioned in Sun's dex entry that it's not from Alola...it's basically an invasive species, but to players (and the internal game data), it's an Alola Pokemon! haha
Thanks so much for your kind words! =D I've been getting a lot of interest in follow ups, so I think that's where I'll be headed next!
You're right about Exeggutor. The games only say that people from Alola say "that this is how they're supposed to look" but that doesn't mean it's native or originates solely from Alola.
@@JonoAnslow Hmm, that's true! Exeggcute could be an invasive species in Alola simply because it thrives there with all the extra sunlight...that's interesting!
"Don't hit me with anime / manga". That's canon though bro
It's a different canon, though, separate from the games!
Maybe the Pokémon like Mr mime and in the safari zone are native they were just going extinct and were preserved to increase the numbers and were catchable when they were at a healthy number
Yeah, I definitely think that's a great theory! I like the idea of conservation efforts helping Pokemon populations rebound. Mr. Fuji and the Safari Zone are great pieces of lore for that!
I think it could be argued that a lot of the pokemon in the safari zone like Lickitung may not be Kantonian. I think these Pokemon could've escaped the safari zone and bred as they settled else where
Great point! The follow-up video to this one goes into more ideas like that!
You said there is no wild porygon in any other games but, Let's go game has a rare chance of wild porygon in route 7 after 11 chain.
That's true! Let's Go does feel like a pretty non-canon game to me, though. The goal was to make all original 150/151 Pokemon available, even if they didn't necessarily make sense.
It's interesting that it requires a chain, though...hmm...
I could have sworn that in Yellow you can catch wild Mr. Mime under pallet town (Route 21) in the grass. I guess I'm mistaken.
You're mostly right -- it was possible in Gen 2, but not any Gen 1 game. It almost feels like an oversight, haha
Technically Mew is from far away island an event location in Pokémon emerald that for some reason isn’t in fire red or leaf green
I'm convinced that Faraway Island is Guyana the way that Kalos is France, haha
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I would argue porygon is native to kanto bc its man made. It was created by silph co. I think the reason the game corner has them for sale is bc the game corner is a front for team rocket and its implied at least one silph scientist was a mole for team rocket. I think he appears in gsc. So maybe he leaked its data or something idk
I think it's definitely a Kanto Pokemon as much as it's an abomination of nature, ahaha
It's not native the same way that something like Pidgey is, which is what I was trying to get at, but it's not really fair to hold a man-made Pokemon to the same standards as a "natural" Pokemon
A lot of the safari Pokemon can be traced to other regions nowadays, I also don't think Rhydon is native, The Safari Zone isn't exactly well regulated or guarded so I wouldn't be surprised if some Pokemon escape and thats why you can catch them on nearby routes. Rhydon and Kangaskhans first wild appearances are actually in Kalos, on the same route no less. Exeggutor are said to be originally from Alola and thats why their Alolan Form is Dragon and taller, and again its not hard to believe they'd escape and continue breeding in their lesser more cold adapt form in the surrounding routes in Kanto.
Tauros seems to be confirmed from Paldea now, given its more brutish Fighting form found in the wilds of those games.
Farfetch'd too, I originally thought it was a Johto Pokemon imported and subsequently set loose in Kanto, but we now know its true form is Galarian and the Kanto/Johto ones are like Exeggutor and adapted forms to the colder region. Similarly but not as direct Mr Mime may also be Galarian, but he may also be Sinnoh because of Mime Jr and the Galar form is a later adaptation.
Scyther, Voltorb, Growlithe and maybe even Chansey might be natives from Sinnoh/Hisui, given the new forms/evolutions of the the latter 3 in Legends Arceus and the commonality of Chansey in that game as well. Plus Scyther and Chansey are found on the same routes in the wild in Sinnoh in modern times.
Jynx is interesting because if she's in the Japanese Blue she should have been kept in the Worlwide release but was rolled back. Her first full appearance was in the Ice Path in Johto so maybe thats her native home and the Seafoam ones are later additions somehow after the 2 year time change (she's in Seafoam officially in HG/SS)
Lapras too might be Johto Native, but its also an endangered species at that point in time. You find 1 in a cave in Johto, in FR/LG you can also find them in an isolated cave on the Sevii Islands. By the time of any 3D game though its confirmed they have been bred back out of endangerment so any wild populations are new and I wouldn't consider strictly "native"
Cerulean cave is interesting, Because it doesn't have things like Lickitung until Yellow, which is very Anime inspired and may not truly represent natural Kanto. Yellow releases a lot of exclusive Pokemon into the Wild like Farfetch'd and some Safari Pokemon that weren't originally in the wild. Similar thing happens with Gold/Silver since it canonically takes place 2 years later some Pokemon the player can find in the wild may be invasive versus native.
It is crazy how many Pokemon nowadays may not be native Kanto residents and have been imported, migrated, or even invasive.
Thank you for this comment! There's a lot to unpack here, so I apologize in advance if I miss anything!
Someone else had mentioned that zoos often have both native and foreign species, so it's not impossible that Rhydon are native to Kanto. But it could really go either way!
I think Exeggcute is a weird one, because it seems so odd for them to have propagated to other regions when Alola has their true form. I wonder if they're an invasive species where they ended up "seeming" native?...
I'm not sure if I'd agree that Tauros and Farfetch'd are from regions with their "Non-Kanto" forms -- it's like with real animals that adapt to their new surroundings. I guess Farfetch'd could be native to Kanto and Galar...and maybe after enough time, we'd see speciation...maybe that's what Sirfetch'd is? haha
Legends Arceus definitely throws a wrench into a lot of the hypotheses around where Pokemon are native to. I think Voltorb is the one that bugs me the most, haha
As for Jynx, it wasn't rolled back from the Japanese Blue. Our Pokemon Blue is just a recoloured Pokemon Green. We got Red and Green, but called them Red and Blue. We never got the "true Blue". So I think she's definitely Kanto-native, but only in a technicality.
Doesn't Lapras respawn in Johto, though? If it respawns, I'd probably call it Johto-native. If it's a one-time encounter, then it becomes a bit of a mystery, haha
And you're absolutely right about Cerulean Cave. I think Yellow's addition of formerly non-wild Pokemon there and elsewhere is canon though, simply because it made sense from a gameplay perspective. I don't think Farfetch'd on that random route has anything to do with the anime, and by the time Yellow came out, Ash and friends were nowhere near the Cerulean Cave! haha
I guess Kanto is at a disadvantage because, being the first gen, it can only "lose" native Pokemon and never gain them. Future generations can steal Kanto's Pokemon, but Kanto can't really steal anything from the future...especially when we're looking at older games.
Thanks again for your comment! =D
I came across a Pokemon video today titled something like what Ash Would Do If He Ran Out of Pokeballs. He ends up taking out a gun and shooting a Caterpie. If I use the same logic here, the reason why you do not see all the Pokemon in the Safari Zone as you would in the wild is because the Safari Zone is actually, in fact, Kanto, BUT it is a conservation space. Think about African Safari. Think about poachers. They are keeping these Pokemon confined because they are preventing extinction. Rhydon, Khangaskhans, Chanseys, Pinsirs, Scythers, etc. are all endangered. O_O. Kind of gives this thing a whole new take right?
It make sense because they are so rare from people who have been poaching them and reducing their numbers. People take Scythers' claws for weapons, Pinsir's horns, Rhydon's drill, Chansey's egg (because it has healing powers). Gives Pokemon kind of a dark side.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 Ironically, some of those Pokemon being caught by trainers could have HELPED their populations, since trainers have a tendency to breed certain Pokemon a whole bunch and then release a ton of "imperfect" hatches into the wild! haha
Really enjoyed this video! Never really put much thought into it before, but it's cool to think about. With that said, here's my two cents:
1) Dratini is likey from Johto, considering the Dragon's Den and Lance's clan are from Blackthorn City.
2) I'm pretty sure Gen 8 confirmed the bird trio originated from Galar, and that the Glarian forms are their original ones.
3) Porygon was created by Sliph Co, so I consider it Kanto native by default.
4) Munchlax is from Sinnoh/Hisui, so I would say Snorlax originates from there by default. Perhaps mons with other baby forms are from different regions as well?
5) Speaking of Hisui, maybe Voltorb/Electrode originate from there as well
6) I always figured the Safari Zone was more of a natural preserve, rather than a zoo. So trying to protect certain native species rather than having imported mons.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
You might want to check out the follow-up video I did on this, since I touch on 1 and 4 there!
I agree with Porygon. It's kind of a silly exercise to try to find where a digital Pokemon is "native" to in the wild. But I still did it!
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I'm a little disappointed that so many newer games are retconning the locations iconic Pokemon like the legendary bird trio, though! Though I guess they could've just been "visiting" Kanto, since they aren't infinitely catchable. But I guess that means that Kanto has no "native" (and non-man-made) legendary or mythical Pokemon at all! haha
I do like the idea of Voltorb originating from Hisui and adapting in modern times to look like item chests/Pokeball chests, though! That's a fun idea.
The Safari Zone as a nature preserve makes sense as well! I hadn't fully considered that. To me, it seems like it's a bit too small and odd of a place for there to be a nature preserve. It's practically in Fuchsia City's backyard, and Fuchsia is just that -- a City. If it were a Town or something, I'd be more inclined to take the Safari Zone as a nature preserve. But with its zoo out front and a relatively small area in the back, I can't help but see it as artificial.
I think that Pokemon like Scyther or Pinsir could be native to Kanto, or at least to an adjacent Japanese region. Also, I'd assume that anything found in the wild in Johto or another Japanese Region may also be native to Kanto.
The Fossils found in the cave are currently in Kanto, but the age of the fossils means that the rock could have moved and that they could be from anywhere. Archeops was likely an import from a European Region.
I think that Pokemon like Eevee, Lapras, Snorlax, and assumedly a Tyrogue for the hitmons, are likely native, but their population is so low that they're hard to find.
The starters are a toss-up for being imports or very rare native Pokemon.
You could also argue that not every Pokemon that can be found in the wild is necessarily native, and could be invasive, like Doduo or Nidoran being from other regions.
Great points!
It's hard to say conclusively where a Pokemon "truly" originates from. But I think my analysis is a bit more consistent/accurate than Game Freak's "It's in this gen of games, so it's from this region" logic, haha
Porygon can be wild caught in let’s go Eevee and Pikachu as well as Legends Arceus!
That's true! In Legends: Arceus, it's in the Space-Time Distortions, which aren't exactly normal.
I always thought the safari zone more of a nature preserve than a zoo so I see all those Pokémon as native. They’re just rare bc their populations dwindled and that was the last stronghold so they built the safari zone
That's definitely plausible! To me, it seems unlikely to have a nature reserve connected to one of the biggest cities in the game, especially with such seemingly "exotic" Pokemon.
@@BabusGameRoom the safari zone is the huge attraction there so it funded a lot of the city projects and the city was built after which is now modern Fuchsia City 🏙️ 🤗
My country Guyana got mentioned, also that the most random thing I ever heard, and the fact that it in pokemon.
Apparently, Mew was discovered in your country! haha
This happens in almost every region. Castform isnt native to Hoenn. Riolu isn't native to Sinnoh. Zorua isn't native to Unova. Outsides of dens there is only one toxel in Galar. Beldum cannot be found in Hoenn. And so on
That's very true! I think we'll see the most of these "misplaced" Pokemon in Gen 1 and 2 though. They seem to be a lot more consistent starting with Gen 3.
I feel Mew isn't From Guyana, more likely Mew are Nomadic and tend to live in places humans don't go frequently
That's true! It just says Mew was discovered in Guyana, but that doesn't mean they're native to Guyana. But a Pokemon being from Guyana is just funny! lol
Jynx was native to jhoto border due to ice cave next to the victory road i always thought reason jynx was a gift trade in kanto was fact it migrated or use to be ice cave crossed over to kanto
The Ice Cave is definitely a suitable home for Jynx!
i've been asking someone to make a video like this for years. thanks
Wow! I'm glad I've fulfilled that for you! =D
Love this video concept. If you can you should definitively make this a series.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I'd definitely like to, though Game Freak became much more consistent with making sure Pokemon could actually be caught in their introductory gens...which is great for internal consistency, but not great for a lot more of these videos! haha
However, Johto is a bit of a mess...
@@BabusGameRoom oh boy, Johto screwed the pooch most definitively. Even in the remakes its way too hard to get certain johto ‘mons.
Aerodactyl's amber is first found in Sinnoh so it should've been native from Sinnoh unless that amber naturally found it's way there, which is next to impossible (trust me, I'm a paleontologist)
Hey, I've been hearing about how coconuts travel the world by water, so I wouldn't be surprised if amber could move in ways that would surprise people who aren't familiar with amber! haha
...I don't imagine it can usually float, though...
Porygon in Scarlet and Violet are seething rn
Porygon in Scarlet and Violet are in the Terrarium! That's not exactly the wild! haha
Although, for example, alolan Exeggutor suggests a variety of exeggutor found after the discovery of regular exeggutor. But we don't refer the Kanto version as Kanto Exeggutor so is the Kanto version the original one? Or is it still just an import?
It does seem like the original Exeggutor is called Kantonian Exeggutor. Casually, I imagine people just drop the "Kantonian" because it's the default.
What’s the logic with a Pokémon like Staryu, which is canonically an alien. Is it considered Kantonian due to that they have found their home in the region and are now abundant? What does it take to be a native?
I was mostly just basing it on being infinitely catchable in a normal area in the wild. A pretty fuzzy definition, I have to admit! lol
Porygon is now on the wild in the Scarlet and Violet DLC :)
That's true! The Terrarium is definitely not a regular part of the "wild" though. But it makes sense that Porygon isn't "native" to anywhere in the wild, being a digital Pokemon and all! haha
Could be caught in the wild in the swsh dlc though
Ok, here's a neat concept. What if we remove the third version of Gen 1, Yellow, cause it was made for the anime and followed a similar plot. So we only include Red/Blue. Farfetchd, Lickitung, Jynx (JP Blue doesn't count as well) and Rhyhorn would be different regional pokemon. Farfetchd, Lickitung and Jynx would be Johto mons due to them being found in the wild in Route 38 and 39 (Farfetchd), Route 44 (Lickitung) and Ice Path (Jynx) in Gold/Silver. Rhyhorn is a Kanto pokemon still due to it being in the Victory Road of Gen 2 Kanto. What do you think?
Interesting point! I didn't feel that the "third versions" were different enough when it came to Pokemon availability to exclude them, but you're right; that'd mean Farfetch'd, Lickitung, and Jynx would all be from Johto, like you'd said. Rhydon, however, are catchable in Cerulean Cave in R/B, making them a weird case. But Rhyhorn in Victory Road thanks to Gen 2 is a good enough answer for me to make them objectively Kanto to me! haha
@@BabusGameRoom haha well I'm saying that about the "third versions" cause they seem more like a enhanced version of the already existing versions, providing minor changes (or not in some cases) to the story of the first two original versions. Hope that wasn't confusing XD
You're definitely right! It is interesting to consider what additional Pokemon "wouldn't count" if you exclude those third versions!
Porygon is also manmade! Though whos to say it was first made in Kanto or another region and then someone brought the coding over. Also the first time you could catch wild Porygon was in the Trophy Garden in Diamond and Pearl as one of the special pokemon there!
That's a great point!
To be fair, Mewtwo lives in the wild, but Porygon seems made to order. Especially at its cost.
I did notice it was available in the Trophy Garden, but that seemed like a bit of an edge case or a weird area like the Safari Zone. But I could be wrong -- I didn't dig too deep into that. Isn't the Trophy Garden somewhere that someone brought a bunch of "exotic" Pokemon for trainers to catch or something?
I believe that Porygon is also catchable in Space-Tome Distortions in Legends Arceus, and in Let's Go.
@@pokepress Space-Time Distortions sounds like the best non-digital place to ever catch Porygon... And Let's Go...it makes everything catchable in the wild, and I'm bordering on whether I'd call them basically non-canon or retcons! ahaha
I would've been up for some more digital areas in Pokemon. But I guess after the seizure incident, they didn't want to make any special Porygon areas...
Strange that we can catch Rotom just out in the wild now though, lol
And thats not even getting into all retcons like eggxecutor!
Right! "Alolan" Exeggutor is supposed to be how Exeggutor is supposed to be, which implies that the regular Exeggutor is a result of not getting enough sun or something else related to not being in Alola, lol
Evee can be caught "in the wild" in gen 4 trophy garden. But maybe you wouldnt consider it wild since cannonically someone released them into said trophy garden
That's true! I address that in the follow-up video to this one, and you're right -- they're brought in by Mr. Backlot's faithful butler to cover up for his dishonesties, haha
I would personally not count safari zone in this list, zoos and safaris are not the same thing. You can build a zoo anywhere and bring in animals, both native and non-native, to lock up in there. Safaris are "built" in the wild where the wildlife is already abundant, especially in areas where animals migrate through in great numbers, in order to try preserve the nature and keep poachers away. Yet it is not completely overruled that there could not be a safari out there that has been introduced to non-native animals intentionally by humans.
Nonetheless this was an entertaining video, you shall have my follow.
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
The Safari Zone is definitely a borderline case. What made me lean towards it being a non-native kind of safari (like "African Lion Safari", which is in Canada, obviously containing non-native species) was that a lot of the Pokemon aren't found anywhere else in the region (at least in Gen 1). This could mean that the Safari Zone is like a conservation area of sorts (or a reserve). I think it could also mean that it's a sort of artificial area created to mimic those Pokemon's native habitats (which are occasionally outside of Kanto).
It really could go either way, in my opinion. Of course, if I didn't take the stance that the Safari Zone is part of Kanto, I'd have had a lot less to talk about! haha
3:25 in legends arceus u can catch porygon in time distortions
That's true! I don't know if I'd call that somewhere out in "the wild" though (which to me, would imply something natural, and not distorted...haha)
I would remove porygon, it was made by Silph C.O on Cinnabar Island.
Oh, was it actually made on Cinnabar Island? It's been a while since I read all the in-game dialogue...
I think the concept of nativeness in Pokemon is a bit iffy given that many different parts pf the world share the same pokemon, but even then, I think they were all later retconned to be from Kanto in one way or the other. The only oned that hold water are the hitmons (who could just be imports from the near Jotoh region), some of the safari mons and of course Mew.
Yeah, it's definitely not objective. But I'm using similar logic to how Zubat is a Gen 1 Pokemon even though it appears in many other gens.
Fun series. I hope you do this for the next gens.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Johto is definitely on the way! =D
Porygon is an artificial pokémon created from virtual reality, supposedly so it could be from Kanto look at the silph co reports.
It was programmed in Kanto, but not native to the wild in Kanto. I guess that's just Porygon's nature, being artificial/digital and all, haha
Actually, Ho-oh was in episode 1, so “150 or more to see” meant more than just Mew.
It was! I even snuck that clip into the video. But it definitely wasn't in the games at the time.
Ho-oh was what told us there'd be more games coming down the line!
What about the other way around? Would you consider pokemon that evolve from/into native pokemon but introduced in later gens also native? I mean pokemon like Pichu, Steelix, and Lickilicky.
Which come to think of it, Steelix is weird. It was the first trade evolution that was also catchable in the wild, but not until the Sinnoh games. Since it also needs an item to evolve, does this imply something special about Sinnoh letting them evolve naturally, or later regions where the same thing happens? Is it possible that Onix migrated away from its native region and lost its ability to evolve naturally, since the dex entries claim it lives deep underground and evolves when Onix lives a long time or consumes a lot of metal?
That's a great question! I'm really not sure. In my follow-up to this video, I did link Snorlax's "native region" to Munchlax, so I think it's only fair to make that connection for other baby Pokemon, too.
And another great question about Steelix...I think I'd actually have to read the dex entries for that one! haha
Porygon is like Mewtwo, manmade and I’m fairly certain that Silph Co are the ones behind its creation.
Silph Co. would make sense as the creators, and they are a Kantonian company...
But technically, Mewtwo lives in the wild in Kanto and Porygon doesn't...
But Porygon is definitely more of a "true" Kanto Pokemon than the other gift Pokemon. Maybe it needs its own category? haha
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most likely it’s own category.
@@BabusGameRoom Mewtwo is not a Kanto Pokemon. Mewtwo is a genetic hybrid of an invasive species (Mew) and wild Kanto Pokemon. But then if it is some part Kanto Pokemon, would it technically be Kanto? Probably....
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 I think if Porygon gets its own special sub-category of "gift Pokemon", then Mewtwo would probably deserve its own special category of Legendary/Limited.
IIRC, wasn't Mewtwo an attempt to combine Pokemon with human DNA? Or maybe I'm completely misremembering that. But if it was, maybe ol' Bill would know something about it...and that would just complicate things further! Are HUMANS native to Kanto?!? haha
@@BabusGameRoom Humans are not Native to Kanto. Humans are on all continents (assuming the game sorts every region as a continent).
Red and Blue COULD be Kantoians. Gold and Silver are Johtoians. Could it be that Red's dad was a Johtoian? Who knows? That would make Red two ethnic groups.
Mew isn't from Gyuana that's just where the dna was found
That's true! Mew being from Guyana is just funny to me, ahaha
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wasn't eevee catchable in castelia park in bw2?
If that's the park you get to via the sewers then I think so
You're right! I addressed this in the follow-up to this video. But I'll need to address it AGAIN in the follow-up to THAT video...ahaha
anyone mentioned the Rhydon thing?
they aren't naturally occurring and are the first example of Team Rockets shenanigans
Rhyhorn and Rhydon are catchable in Cerulean Cave, which is good enough for me! haha
@@BabusGameRoom fair enough!
Assumed not catchable in the wild, thats like going well in ruby kyogre isnt native to the hoenn reigon when thats literally where it lives just in different place than groundon, asnd in emerald you can get both of them, you also assume professor oak didnt catch these absolutely ages ago when they were around and now they arent because something has caused them to go scarce but in the anime there are wild lapras, wild charmanders and a squirtle squad. like what you assume is exaclty that just an assumption when there are counters to it i can pull out of lots of places. mewtow is native to kanto coz it was literally made there same with something like proygon, you assume areodactyle wasnt native to kanto yet its amber is found in kanto so its pulled form somewhere dug up in kanto so it must have had part of it dna encased in amber found in kanto so it was clearly flying around in kanto or what would be kanto. same with the fossils, they would have been pulled from caves or the ocean in kanto.
If Professor Oak can catch them, I should be able to too! Who knows where he caught them from? haha
You might be interested in the follow-up video where I go more in depth on where the Pokemon I listed here might actually be from!
And then you have johto pokemon like houndour that can only be in kanto which just feels absolutely backwards
Yes!!! Johto was a complete mess in that regard...ahaha
Hondour is what went wrong when someone crossed a Growlithe with a Vuplix. Similar to dogs like Pitbulls that were bred from wild dogs native to a continent.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 ahaha, I love it. Is it a Dark type because cross-species relationships are forbidden? haha
@@BabusGameRoom It hated whomever created it. Think about Dobermans and Pitbulls and Bulldogs. They are bred to kill.
While I am writing, this, Mewtwo is the same way. O_o. But that thing is a cat.
waaaaait, catching TWO Mews?! WHAT?!
Yup! There's a Swimmer in Cerulean Gym and a trainer (Youngster?) that can both be used to activate the Mew Glitch. It'll be hard because you'll need the Pokeballs to catch both of them, as well as a team ready to weaken and catch the Mew before the second badge (plus Abra for Teleport).
*you can catch Eevee in the wild in Gen 4 and Gen 5
True! In the follow-up video, I mention why those don't really count as "the wild".
Well, I don't explain why Gen 5 doesn't count, but plenty of people in the comments there do! haha
If we were to count the anime as canon then I’d have to count aerodactyl as region native due to the episode where ash falls into that cave that reveals the fossil Pokémon. However that would also open up a can of worms that make weird assumptions for other Pokémon being native that obviously shouldn’t be. Not mention then there’s the controversy of if fossil Pokémon revived actually take on there original forms or not..
I would like to see your take on this subject in accordance to gen two’s wild encounters and how some johto mon are only found in kanto
I remember the fossil Pokemon as animatronics for some reason...but I'm not looking at the anime with this list. It'd mean everything (and more) is native to Kanto! haha
Whether the revived fossil Pokemon are true to their original forms is an interesting question, though!
Will definitely be moving forward with Johto in a video like this though! =D
Everyone saying his pronunciation of Kanto is off putting….not me pronouncing it this way since I first started playing Pokémon Red
Right?! ahaha
You can tell who's been playing since the 90's/2000's if they say "can toe".
You forgot about Clefairy. Don't those Pokemon come from outer space? I think the only reason you can find them in Mt. Moon is because that's where they crash landed. But Kanto isn't in outer space, so that would make them non-native.
Also, I disagree about Mew being from Guyana not making sense. Pokemon wouldn't be the first work of fiction to combine fiction with the real world: look at Harry Potter, for the most obvious contemporary example. I think the mainline Pokemon games are very clearly regions of a fictional analog to real-world Japan. This becomes readily apparent when you look at the architecture of some of the more unique buildings and structures. Tin Tower, for example, comes to mind. So the scientists who discovered Mew would've gone around the world, to two different hemispheres, to find that Pokemon. We can infer that from Mew being from Guyana, and the mainline games taking place in a clear fictional analog to Japan.
You're absolutely right! I forgot about the outer space Pokemon. While Clefairy are infinitely catchable in the wild in Kanto, they definitely originated elsewhere.
You do make a good point about the real world in fictional works, but it does seem like the Pokemon teams have been trying to erase as much "real world" from the games as possible!
...of course, that probably just means that Faraway Island is just an island of "Guyana" the way that Kalos is Paris, haha
Actually Eevee is catchable in Gen 5 in the BW2 games
I address this in the follow-up video...but some commenters pointed out that Eevee are not actually native to Unova since all the new B2W2 Pokemon in Gen 5 were introduced to the region in the last few years! haha
I think this is a matter of taking game mechanics and developer decisions too literally when describing lore. Pokémon lore (Pokédex mostly) notoriously seems to exaggerate things, but that’s not what I’m talking about.
Pallet Town has 2 residences and a laboratory. In the real world, that does not describe a literal town at all.
The starters, for example, cannot be found as a deliberate scarcity decision by the developers. Same goes with Pokémon that can only be found via trades, etc.
Game mechanics and decisions often don’t accurately describe the intended vision of developers. Another example is that the player avatar never needs to eat or drink or sleep, and never ages. Taking this at face value, you could argue that the player avatar is completely immortal. Other people get thirsty (the guards), but you never do.
The way I see it, every Pokémon is native to the region they first appear in unless otherwise stated or implied (Corphish).
Of course, we can never really know what the developers’ true vision of what Kanto and it’s Pokémon would really look like/behave like in a context that doesn’t revolve around a player “playing the game”, so it is still worth investigating and speculating about things like what you do in this video.
Oh, definitely. At the same time, the interpretation of any piece of media belongs to the audience after it's released. For me, it's fun to try to piece together these little bits and come up with some sort of answer.
The future games generally do a much better job of introducing Pokemon that actually live in the region for the gen they're introduced in, so it seems like that was the intent. So these early-series inconsistencies stand out!
Your perspective is definitely valid, and probably the one that most players hold. And it was the one I held until I started thinking about this. But I had fun making the video and discussing it here in the comments, and that's what's most important! =D