Soon after seeing your first video I made a small copy of your system with just twelve grow sites. It has been in operation for just a couple of weeks now and is working beautifully so far. My timer is set to water for just five minutes every half-hour and I am keeping the EC at 1.5 ms.. I may adjust that later, but the plants are looking good right now. My old 600 watt HPS grow light and a couple of cheap red and blue LED grow lights are doing a fine job of making the plants happy and vigorous in the grow tent. I have five varieties of lettuce so far, with lots of new sprouts coming along, so soon I should be up to full production and then will begin experimenting with other plants to see what all I can grow in my system. I really like this design. By the way, I used NO GLUE. Everything is just squeezed together by hand and every piece can be removed for cleaning. So far, not a single drop has leaked.
HI JOE, thanks for all your great info. I was going to ask a bunch of questions but all your answers are here including glue and nutrient solution. I dig your generosity! Best, Murray
Thanks so much for sharing! I have a perfect wall in my boiler room to build this. Is this a bad idea? Will it be too hot in there all winter with the boiler kicking on?
Hey Chris - I don't think so - you may get more transpiration/evaporation than normal, but you'll get the added bonus of humidification, which I value with my system in the cold winter when my furnace is running instead of my heat pump.
great job, a lot of inspiration =), 2 questions, do you put the plants with the rockwool directly on the 1 1/2" yee, and its dont fall ? or are something else on the yee ? ...and, do you think this will work on the exterior (lots of sun) ?
Have you tried to move the romaine lettuce to different places in the system? Very end 2nd from the bottom, center middle high, all the way to the right top. Also an are that has less light. Just to see if any area is better for it. Or did you just quit growing it. Thanks for sharing :)
Hey Benja, the location didn't matter. It wasn't the right variety. Some varieties just don't grow well in this type of setup compared with others. Small and compact is best. The romaine is not small and compact.
Thanks for sharing. With your current vertical setup are you finding certain spots grow better then others? Working o my setup which presently is all horizontal, this is interesting and I like trying different techniques
Hi Joe, Thanks again for the great videos. I've just finished building a system that includes lettuce towers which are based almost exactly off of your system. Does your pump have the ability to turn on at intervals as a standard feature or are you using a timer? I was having trouble finding a timer that was based solely on regular intervals rather than events per day.
Joe, I am new and getting interest in growing following in my basement: Tomatoes, Spinach, Lettuce, Mint, Squash. Please share your videos with step-by step process to put htis in place along with lightening. Mine is walkout basement with three windows with lots of light and I want to build this near natural light. DO I still need artificial lightening with LED bulbs? Thanks for your videos.
Hello, you are going to need some professional help with your specific setup. I am just a hobbyist and made a setup for my my basement. I won't recommend using natural light from windows to grow in a basement though, and greens are much easier than fruit veggies like squash. Best of luck to you.
@MaryandJoe Neumayer What type of stats do I need for a pump? Brand? How many gallons per hour, etc...? LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your system by the way! I am building one based on your design. I have seen your most recent vid's too but comments were turned off there
Hi Cossette, for pump you need to know the head, or the hight you need the water pumped. I use Pondmaster Supreme Model 5 for the bastement system. Not sure how many gallons per hour but the flow is sufficient. As for comments turned off, that was news to me - apparently RUclips changed some settings to protect minors or something like, and I just reopened comments on my other vids (I think). Thanks for the feedback and best of luck to you!
about 7.5 inches off center for the lettuce and further for the kales and herbs. In the greenhouse there are spaced a bit further even. The further the better, but since indoor lighting gets expensive, I keep them as tight as possible in the basement. Alternative spacing helps with air flow and growing room.
Thanks for the great videos. Have you had any problems with the plant roots clogging the pipes? I tried different designs in the past, but I always had problems with roots clogging the pipes. Thanks again again for the great videos.
Hi Jeff, some roots get too big if you grow out the plant indeterminately. I've had issues with mint, parsley, chives, and swiss chard. I think after 5 or 6 months it's time to replace those plants. The nice thing about this latest design is that you can remove the entire tower to give it a good cleaning/bleaching. I did that with my greenhouse towers on a warm weekend in January here in Chicago. As I've stated in other posts, my basement system is just for winter, so I'm not anticipating having those problems. Best to you.
Hey Jeff, well, it happened. I had 3 big dill plants growing out of one site, and there was some dripping out while I had the system flushing continuously for a good 40 minutes. I pulled the plants out and there was over a foot of coiled root. I took a picture for you: drive.google.com/open?id=0B-6HiC4vapvpTUlacUhSQ0VYbVU Next time I'll be sure to prune back to 1 plant!
Hello , congratulations for your video and your creation. I would like to ask one thing of you. When time Water the plants every day? Can you explain to me how you put the irrigation system? I thank you in advance
What do you keep your EC at, given the different plants you're growing? Also, do you know the length of those cut pvc pieces separating the wye tees? Thanks! This is an excellent system!
Hi, I tested 38% humidity yesterday down next to the system. It's March, so our forced-air furnace heat is still running. In the winter I welcome the added humidity in the house actually. Haven't run a humidifier in years. This system is also closed off (towers/container) pretty solidly so besides the transpiration from the plants there's not much evaporation impacting humidity. When I ran my aquaponics system in the basement I did develop mold though. Those were the good old days! ;-)
Hallo, ich finde Deinen Aufbau Klasse und er hat mich selber inspiriert. Habe versucht es nach zu bauen. Habe HT T-Stücke genommen wo ich schwarze Gittertöpfe eingesetzt habe. Die Pflanzen (gezüchtet in Steinwolle) habe ich versuchsweise nur in Steinwolle oder die Steinwollrollen (IKEA) mit einem 2 cm PU Schaumstoff oben zum fixieren und einmal die Steinwolle mit Hydrofüllung von Ikea. Mit dem Ergebnis bin ich nicht zufrieden und wäre mich über ein paar Tipps freuen. Die Pflanzentöpfe wurden alle 15 Minuten für 15 Minuten bewässert. Kannst Du mir sagen, wie bzw. mit welchem Material du Deine Setzlinge in den Rohren eingepflanzt hast? Was kannst Du für einen Dünger empfehlen? Mit was stellst Du den PH Wert ein und was hat sich als idealer Wert für Gemüse herausgestellt? Beleuchtungszeit 12 h am Tag? Temperatur? Wie groß ist Deine Anlage 4-5 Meter? Was für die Beleuchtung für Lampen nimmst Du und wie viele benötigt man für eine solch riesige Fläche? Was für einen Stromverbrauch hast Du? Wie lange dauert bei Dir der Wachstum eines Kopfsalats? Nimmst Du Standard Samen oder schnell wachsende Samen? Vielen lieben Dank! Gerne auch per Email mail@jens-haufe.de
Hi Jens, respekt dass du die Zeit und Energie (und Geld) hineinsteckst! Ich habe mit dem Anbau riesige Erfolge und verkaufe sogar an Kollegen die Extras und dadurch kostet der Betrieb nix - sowie auch die tägliche Ernte für die Familie! Das läuft alles so super dass ich noch weiter experimentiere. Ich bin gerade dabei einen Gurkengarten zu bauen und auch einen Regalanbau - hoffentlich kann ich in ein paar Monaten die Vids posten. Übrigens zu deinen Fragen: ich bewässere jetzt länger - für 30 Minuten und dann schaltet die Pumpe 15 Minuten aus. Die Keimlinge komme so einfach so in die Röhre hinein - ohne Töpfe. Ich bestelle die verfertigten Steinwollen. Sie heißen Grodan plugs 1.5 inches. Die muss man bei dir kriegen können. PH Werte bei mir sind bei 5.5 bis 6.0. Ideal 5.5-6.5 - je nach dem was du anbaust. Die Nährstofflösung mische ich selber - finde ich sehr preiswert. Ich habe das Rezept von einem auf RUclips bekommen: ruclips.net/video/Jx0uNp2dzAU/видео.html Die Zutaten kaufe ich in Mengen online. Beleuchtungszeit 16 Stunden am Tag mit normalen LED 6000 K Glühbirnen (15 Watt). Ich werde mit dem Regalanbau neue Beleuchtung testen. Die Lufttemperatur in dem großen Zimmer im Keller ist durchschnittlich 18-19 Grad und die Wassertemperatur ist so gegen 17 Grad. Der Hydrogarten ist 1.5 M groß und fast 5 M lang. Stromverbrauch - ja - kommt darauf an weil wir Solaranlage am Dach installiert haben. Der Anbau selbst verbraucht ca. 1 kW pro Stunde - sehr viel, weiß ich, und deswegen experimentiere ich mit anderen Beleuchtungen. Der Wachstum - 2 Wochen außerhalb des Anbaus und dann 6 Wochen drin. Manche Salate wachsen schneller als andere - auch von der gleichen Art - ganz komisch aber tatsächlich der Fall. Standard Samen sollte man nicht einfach nehmen - manche Arten wachsen in der Hydrokultur besser als andere. Ich baue normalerweise Rex, Panisse, Rouxai, und Alkindus an, und dann auch andere im Sommer im Gewächshaus - Muir und Teide zB. Sie vertragen die Hitze ganz gut. Da musst du einfach experimentieren. Eine wichtige Sache - bring nix von draußen in den Anbau hinein. Ich keime alles im Haus. Das ist äußerst wichtig. Der Hydrogarten funktioniert auch gut draußen - nur musst du schauen dass die Nährstofflösung nicht aufheizt. Mit weiteren Fragen kannst du gerne emailen: neumayer04@gmail.com. Viel Glück wünsche ich dir.
you need to clean the whole system every three months or so to remove salt build up, also change the reservoir water/nutrient every two months as well and put new water nutrient on it.
NIce video again. how much of cns17 do you use per gallon of water? im having hard time to figure it out. Rookie always will be rookie lol!!! Thank you
Hi Shawn, lights are about 20 inches from the plants, the lettuce towers are 7 inches apart off center, and the wye tees are staggered between towers so that the lettuce plants are grown with 8 inches of space between each other. Prost!
Try Jericho romaine lettuce. I always grow this type of lettuce and I have never had tip burns. I don't think you have never mentioned your PH or PPM in any of your videos. I always keep my PH near 6.0 and the PPM between 500 and 550. Thanks for the update.
Hi Engi, thanks for the Jericho tip. I'll order some seeds next round (just received my new seed shipments for 2017 unfortunately or I would have added a packet) I keep a close eye on pH and TDS. I'm always between 5.7 and 6.3 but for ppm I keep mine higher - around 1200. I started out between 600 - 800 but found that my plants grow considerably better/faster at around 1200. I also flush now every 3 weeks (after 2 refill cycles) and add a small amount of Fe (DTPA) and CaNO3 after weeks 1 and 2 (I'm adding 25-35 gallons of fresh tap water each week). I'd love to have my solution tested at various points to see what's being used up. I also don't know enough about what's being precipitated out, so nutrient data may not necessarily provide a clear picture of nutrient availability. I should have paid more attention in chemistry!
That's the beauty of going vertical, not much space is needed. My setup is 14X5 and that nets me 22 heads of lettuce per week - you may not need that much for your family. Growing outdoors seasonally if you have some space is an option too and way cheaper to use the sun!
Hi Alex - the cost of each head of lettuce changes every month - depends on the sunshine as we have 30 rooftop solar panels to help out with lighting which is basically the cost of running the system. The unit uses 16 kWh daily and today we made 23 so today was a good day. Nutrient I make myself and the plugs I order in bulk, so that's a nominal cost. But actually I receive donations for surplus produce so the system is not running at a cost to my family. I've never calculated the cost of the produce we consume daily compared to local market value. That would be interesting.
Thanks for sharing Joe, In the process of building one now. Have you had any issues with root tangle using the smaller pipe and closer spacing? Pretty sure planting and harvesting each row at the same time avoids? My only other concern is overloading the 2" pipe at the base, (1 1/2 " grow tubes like yours going up). Hoping to have about 1K grow sites on one system with a 55 Gallon drum below the floor.
It's all good. Busy time of year. Greenhouse is growing great. Here's a link to a romaine: drive.google.com/open?id=0B-6HiC4vapvpMlBkTTZvMUk1VWs In the remaining garden area I have been working on a 9 single row raised bed trellis system with underground irrigation. It's almost complete and I'll most assuredly post a video on that shortly. I'm also working on adding a large circulation fan and then a pulley system system for cucumber using 2 vertical tower sites to grow them indeterminately. It's a really neat concept but I don't know if I have enough height to pull it off. I'll get a video out maybe in 2 months after testing it out. Tschau for now!
My 100 watt replacement LEDs produce 1600 lumens each and only use 15 watts, so if you're only getting 1600 lumens from a 150 watt flood running your system will get quite pricey. Lettuce is easy going, but some other types of veggies will require higher intensity. My pump is a 500 gallon per hour, cycling 15 min on and 15 min off. I like the Danner Pondmaster series; low energy and high output. I'm using the model 18 for my greenhouse, model 5 in my basement, and model 3 for a smaller, 98 site system in my classroom at school.
@@maryneumayer01 Hi, what is the 98 site system, how many towers of plants, and y tees in those columns do youhave? How much nutrient do you use for your smaller system. And lastly how many light towers do you use? Thank you for replying.
@@mimiclausen6533 I was trying to figure this out too:) I found the link here (docs.google.com/document/d/1DsThOtZz1AnbvGN08H1S64OluTRDND1hgzJcIYEBP2w/edit) I think he has 14 towers, each has 7 sites for lettuce, and around 11.5 cm between the y- tees. I also wonder how many light towers (40 lamps in total)
Hi Ryan, I don't have one, sorry - it's basic - just build your frame, cut and connect the pvc, and add the plumbing. If you read more comments below I have written may notes about construction. Best of luck to you.
Please contact Jim Gale at Permacube. He owns the rights to this system and was in the process of building and marketing some different sizes. Good luck!
hi joe, my vertical garden of your design is doing well outdoors in los angeles. was thinking about building another in my garden shed. I'm trying an experiment with an old tower garden and using 5 -- 6500k, 40 watt led shop lights . www.dropbox.com/s/nncht84yfausvl7/facebook_1578874146482.jpg?dl=0 any suggestions? would you expect the tubes will work a's well a's your bulbs?
Hi Murray, yes, I would anticipate those shop lights will work just fine for lettuce and kale. Looks like you have 10 bulbs - T8's? Should be fine. Unfortunately it's a lot of energy for not so many plants - but over in California you are using more energy from renewable sources than here in Chicago at least. :-)
@@maryneumayer01 Hi Joe, yes, overkill on the lights. I have another more pressing question: going to build another of your vertical gardens at the school where I teach. We want to link three of the 49 pod units together. In your basement, you have two. For three (or a total of 147 pods) using one nutrient tote, do you think I need a stronger pump? Thanks again!!!
Soon after seeing your first video I made a small copy of your system with just twelve grow sites. It has been in operation for just a couple of weeks now and is working beautifully so far. My timer is set to water for just five minutes every half-hour and I am keeping the EC at 1.5 ms.. I may adjust that later, but the plants are looking good right now. My old 600 watt HPS grow light and a couple of cheap red and blue LED grow lights are doing a fine job of making the plants happy and vigorous in the grow tent. I have five varieties of lettuce so far, with lots of new sprouts coming along, so soon I should be up to full production and then will begin experimenting with other plants to see what all I can grow in my system. I really like this design. By the way, I used NO GLUE. Everything is just squeezed together by hand and every piece can be removed for cleaning. So far, not a single drop has leaked.
sounds great, thanks for sharing and keep up with it! :-)
HI JOE, thanks for all your great info. I was going to ask a bunch of questions but all your answers are here including glue and nutrient solution. I dig your generosity! Best, Murray
Thanks for reading the comments and good luck!
Your plants look great. I saw the older video and they have grown beautifully. Loved and Subbed
Thanks so much for sharing! I have a perfect wall in my boiler room to build this. Is this a bad idea? Will it be too hot in there all winter with the boiler kicking on?
Hey Chris - I don't think so - you may get more transpiration/evaporation than normal, but you'll get the added bonus of humidification, which I value with my system in the cold winter when my furnace is running instead of my heat pump.
You ensipire the setup I made.... I'm doing a mess as far ass growing.... But I'm learning step by step
I went the same route ;-)
great job, a lot of inspiration =), 2 questions, do you put the plants with the rockwool directly on the 1 1/2" yee, and its dont fall ? or are something else on the yee ? ...and, do you think this will work on the exterior (lots of sun) ?
yes and yes. rockwool fits snugly - as if they were made for each other. :-) please check my recent reply above for growing outdoors.
Have you tried to move the romaine lettuce to different places in the system? Very end 2nd from the bottom, center middle high, all the way to the right top. Also an are that has less light. Just to see if any area is better for it. Or did you just quit growing it. Thanks for sharing :)
Hey Benja, the location didn't matter. It wasn't the right variety. Some varieties just don't grow well in this type of setup compared with others. Small and compact is best. The romaine is not small and compact.
Oh ya that makes since :) I was wondering what happen thanks for telling me :)
Thanks for sharing. With your current vertical setup are you finding certain spots grow better then others? Working o my setup which presently is all horizontal, this is interesting and I like trying different techniques
No, it seems to be more about light coverage than where on the towers the plants are growing. Good luck!
Hi Joe, Thanks again for the great videos. I've just finished building a system that includes lettuce towers which are based almost exactly off of your system. Does your pump have the ability to turn on at intervals as a standard feature or are you using a timer? I was having trouble finding a timer that was based solely on regular intervals rather than events per day.
Hey Pat - this is the pump timer I use: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00435KOUY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Joe,
I am new and getting interest in growing following in my basement: Tomatoes, Spinach, Lettuce, Mint, Squash. Please share your videos with step-by step process to put htis in place along with lightening. Mine is walkout basement with three windows with lots of light and I want to build this near natural light. DO I still need artificial lightening with LED bulbs?
Thanks for your videos.
Hello, you are going to need some professional help with your specific setup. I am just a hobbyist and made a setup for my my basement. I won't recommend using natural light from windows to grow in a basement though, and greens are much easier than fruit veggies like squash. Best of luck to you.
@MaryandJoe Neumayer
What type of stats do I need for a pump? Brand? How many gallons per hour, etc...?
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your system by the way! I am building one based on your design. I have seen your most recent vid's too but comments were turned off there
Hi Cossette, for pump you need to know the head, or the hight you need the water pumped. I use Pondmaster Supreme Model 5 for the bastement system. Not sure how many gallons per hour but the flow is sufficient. As for comments turned off, that was news to me - apparently RUclips changed some settings to protect minors or something like, and I just reopened comments on my other vids (I think). Thanks for the feedback and best of luck to you!
Howsit Joe! thanks for sharing this! its an amazing setup! Question: How far apart are your racks from each other?
about 7.5 inches off center for the lettuce and further for the kales and herbs. In the greenhouse there are spaced a bit further even. The further the better, but since indoor lighting gets expensive, I keep them as tight as possible in the basement. Alternative spacing helps with air flow and growing room.
Thanks for the great videos. Have you had any problems with the plant roots clogging the pipes? I tried different designs in the past, but I always had problems with roots clogging the pipes. Thanks again again for the great videos.
Hi Jeff, some roots get too big if you grow out the plant indeterminately. I've had issues with mint, parsley, chives, and swiss chard. I think after 5 or 6 months it's time to replace those plants. The nice thing about this latest design is that you can remove the entire tower to give it a good cleaning/bleaching. I did that with my greenhouse towers on a warm weekend in January here in Chicago. As I've stated in other posts, my basement system is just for winter, so I'm not anticipating having those problems. Best to you.
Hey Jeff, well, it happened. I had 3 big dill plants growing out of one site, and there was some dripping out while I had the system flushing continuously for a good 40 minutes. I pulled the plants out and there was over a foot of coiled root. I took a picture for you:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B-6HiC4vapvpTUlacUhSQ0VYbVU
Next time I'll be sure to prune back to 1 plant!
Hello ,
congratulations for your video and your creation.
I would like to ask one thing of you. When time Water the plants every day?
Can you explain to me how you put the irrigation system?
I thank you in advance
Hello, my timer activates my pump every 15 minutes. So the plants are irrigated 15 minutes on and 15 minutes off. Hope this helps.
What do you keep your EC at, given the different plants you're growing?
Also, do you know the length of those cut pvc pieces separating the wye tees?
Thanks! This is an excellent system!
Hi Alex, about 1200 ppm and 4.5 in.
Hi,
That system looks great, but doesn't it make the indoors to humid?
Aren't you afraid of mold/mildew growing inside your house?
Hi, I tested 38% humidity yesterday down next to the system. It's March, so our forced-air furnace heat is still running. In the winter I welcome the added humidity in the house actually. Haven't run a humidifier in years. This system is also closed off (towers/container) pretty solidly so besides the transpiration from the plants there's not much evaporation impacting humidity. When I ran my aquaponics system in the basement I did develop mold though. Those were the good old days! ;-)
I see. Thanks for sharing.
Isn't the current rig sitting in your basement?
very impressive, can you share more information about your nutrients mix, ph and temperature?
sure, CNS17 grow, pH around 6, and temp is between 55 and 60 depending on the time of year.
Hallo,
ich finde Deinen Aufbau Klasse und er hat mich selber inspiriert. Habe versucht es nach zu bauen. Habe HT T-Stücke genommen wo ich schwarze Gittertöpfe eingesetzt habe. Die Pflanzen (gezüchtet in Steinwolle) habe ich versuchsweise nur in Steinwolle oder die Steinwollrollen (IKEA) mit einem 2 cm PU Schaumstoff oben zum fixieren und einmal die Steinwolle mit Hydrofüllung von Ikea.
Mit dem Ergebnis bin ich nicht zufrieden und wäre mich über ein paar Tipps freuen.
Die Pflanzentöpfe wurden alle 15 Minuten für 15 Minuten bewässert.
Kannst Du mir sagen, wie bzw. mit welchem Material du Deine Setzlinge in den Rohren eingepflanzt hast?
Was kannst Du für einen Dünger empfehlen?
Mit was stellst Du den PH Wert ein und was hat sich als idealer Wert für Gemüse herausgestellt?
Beleuchtungszeit 12 h am Tag?
Temperatur?
Wie groß ist Deine Anlage 4-5 Meter?
Was für die Beleuchtung für Lampen nimmst Du und wie viele benötigt man für eine solch riesige Fläche? Was für einen Stromverbrauch hast Du?
Wie lange dauert bei Dir der Wachstum eines Kopfsalats?
Nimmst Du Standard Samen oder schnell wachsende Samen?
Vielen lieben Dank!
Gerne auch per Email mail@jens-haufe.de
Hi Jens, respekt dass du die Zeit und Energie (und Geld) hineinsteckst! Ich habe mit dem Anbau riesige Erfolge und verkaufe sogar an Kollegen die Extras und dadurch kostet der Betrieb nix - sowie auch die tägliche Ernte für die Familie! Das läuft alles so super dass ich noch weiter experimentiere. Ich bin gerade dabei einen Gurkengarten zu bauen und auch einen Regalanbau - hoffentlich kann ich in ein paar Monaten die Vids posten.
Übrigens zu deinen Fragen: ich bewässere jetzt länger - für 30 Minuten und dann schaltet die Pumpe 15 Minuten aus. Die Keimlinge komme so einfach so in die Röhre hinein - ohne Töpfe. Ich bestelle die verfertigten Steinwollen. Sie heißen Grodan plugs 1.5 inches. Die muss man bei dir kriegen können. PH Werte bei mir sind bei 5.5 bis 6.0. Ideal 5.5-6.5 - je nach dem was du anbaust. Die Nährstofflösung mische ich selber - finde ich sehr preiswert. Ich habe das Rezept von einem auf RUclips bekommen: ruclips.net/video/Jx0uNp2dzAU/видео.html Die Zutaten kaufe ich in Mengen online. Beleuchtungszeit 16 Stunden am Tag mit normalen LED 6000 K Glühbirnen (15 Watt). Ich werde mit dem Regalanbau neue Beleuchtung testen. Die Lufttemperatur in dem großen Zimmer im Keller ist durchschnittlich 18-19 Grad und die Wassertemperatur ist so gegen 17 Grad. Der Hydrogarten ist 1.5 M groß und fast 5 M lang. Stromverbrauch - ja - kommt darauf an weil wir Solaranlage am Dach installiert haben. Der Anbau selbst verbraucht ca. 1 kW pro Stunde - sehr viel, weiß ich, und deswegen experimentiere ich mit anderen Beleuchtungen. Der Wachstum - 2 Wochen außerhalb des Anbaus und dann 6 Wochen drin. Manche Salate wachsen schneller als andere - auch von der gleichen Art - ganz komisch aber tatsächlich der Fall. Standard Samen sollte man nicht einfach nehmen - manche Arten wachsen in der Hydrokultur besser als andere. Ich baue normalerweise Rex, Panisse, Rouxai, und Alkindus an, und dann auch andere im Sommer im Gewächshaus - Muir und Teide zB. Sie vertragen die Hitze ganz gut. Da musst du einfach experimentieren. Eine wichtige Sache - bring nix von draußen in den Anbau hinein. Ich keime alles im Haus. Das ist äußerst wichtig. Der Hydrogarten funktioniert auch gut draußen - nur musst du schauen dass die Nährstofflösung nicht aufheizt. Mit weiteren Fragen kannst du gerne emailen: neumayer04@gmail.com. Viel Glück wünsche ich dir.
you need to clean the whole system every three months or so to remove salt build up, also change the reservoir water/nutrient every two months as well and put new water nutrient on it.
NIce video again. how much of cns17 do you use per gallon of water? im having hard time to figure it out. Rookie always will be rookie lol!!! Thank you
Hi Eddy, the company recommends 18 ml per gallon which will most likely net you a bit under 1000ppm.
Thank you, you are the best!!! :)
Hi Joe, How far are the tubes off center vertically and horizontally? And about far do you keep the lights from your greens? Cheers.
Hi Shawn, lights are about 20 inches from the plants, the lettuce towers are 7 inches apart off center, and the wye tees are staggered between towers so that the lettuce plants are grown with 8 inches of space between each other. Prost!
Try Jericho romaine lettuce. I always grow this type of lettuce and I have never had tip burns. I don't think you have never mentioned your PH or PPM in any of your videos. I always keep my PH near 6.0 and the PPM between 500 and 550. Thanks for the update.
Hi Engi, thanks for the Jericho tip. I'll order some seeds next round (just received my new seed shipments for 2017 unfortunately or I would have added a packet) I keep a close eye on pH and TDS. I'm always between 5.7 and 6.3 but for ppm I keep mine higher - around 1200. I started out between 600 - 800 but found that my plants grow considerably better/faster at around 1200. I also flush now every 3 weeks (after 2 refill cycles) and add a small amount of Fe (DTPA) and CaNO3 after weeks 1 and 2 (I'm adding 25-35 gallons of fresh tap water each week). I'd love to have my solution tested at various points to see what's being used up. I also don't know enough about what's being precipitated out, so nutrient data may not necessarily provide a clear picture of nutrient availability. I should have paid more attention in chemistry!
Do you use PVC glue to connect the pipes or is it just secured by the wood frame?
PVC glue Garry - supplyhouse.com has glue for potable water.
Nice! Wish I had the room to build a setup like yours.
John
That's the beauty of going vertical, not much space is needed. My setup is 14X5 and that nets me 22 heads of lettuce per week - you may not need that much for your family. Growing outdoors seasonally if you have some space is an option too and way cheaper to use the sun!
How much does it cost to run those lights and how much does it cost to produce each lettuce?
Hi Alex - the cost of each head of lettuce changes every month - depends on the sunshine as we have 30 rooftop solar panels to help out with lighting which is basically the cost of running the system. The unit uses 16 kWh daily and today we made 23 so today was a good day. Nutrient I make myself and the plugs I order in bulk, so that's a nominal cost. But actually I receive donations for surplus produce so the system is not running at a cost to my family. I've never calculated the cost of the produce we consume daily compared to local market value. That would be interesting.
how much times do you water them ? do you ever cut the pump off ?
Hi J, by watering do you mean irrigating? It's done with a timer 30 min on and 15 min off. Hope that helps.
Does the smaller grow site produce the same size head of lettuce? Thanks for sharing!!
Hi, all grow sites are the same, so yes.
Thanks for sharing Joe, In the process of building one now. Have you had any issues with root tangle using the smaller pipe and closer spacing? Pretty sure planting and harvesting each row at the same time avoids? My only other concern is overloading the 2" pipe at the base, (1 1/2 " grow tubes like yours going up). Hoping to have about 1K grow sites on one system with a 55 Gallon drum below the floor.
what do you use at the tip of the drip line to get the water to spread evenly over the roots?
Nothing. The nutrient just runs down the front of the towers and irrigates the rockwool/roots which are located there at the front.
What interval is your pump set on? and what size rockwoll plugs are you using?
30 min on, 15 off, repeat. 1.5 in. rockwool
Roughly how many pounds does 22 heads of lettuce produce?
Hi Jason, depends on the variety really. I'd say maybe 10 lbs but I'd have to test that out.
Tip burn is salts from nutrients too strong I saw on a video recently
well I hope all is well. I'm so interested in your 1.5inch pvc vert
It's all good. Busy time of year. Greenhouse is growing great. Here's a link to a romaine: drive.google.com/open?id=0B-6HiC4vapvpMlBkTTZvMUk1VWs
In the remaining garden area I have been working on a 9 single row raised bed trellis system with underground irrigation. It's almost complete and I'll most assuredly post a video on that shortly. I'm also working on adding a large circulation fan and then a pulley system system for cucumber using 2 vertical tower sites to grow them indeterminately. It's a really neat concept but I don't know if I have enough height to pull it off. I'll get a video out maybe in 2 months after testing it out. Tschau for now!
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ebenfalls Brian! Schön dass Sie Sich für Hydrokultur interessieren.
Would 150 watt flood lights with 1600 lumens work? Also, what size and type pump did u use ?
My 100 watt replacement LEDs produce 1600 lumens each and only use 15 watts, so if you're only getting 1600 lumens from a 150 watt flood running your system will get quite pricey. Lettuce is easy going, but some other types of veggies will require higher intensity. My pump is a 500 gallon per hour, cycling 15 min on and 15 min off. I like the Danner Pondmaster series; low energy and high output. I'm using the model 18 for my greenhouse, model 5 in my basement, and model 3 for a smaller, 98 site system in my classroom at school.
@@maryneumayer01 Hi, what is the 98 site system, how many towers of plants, and y tees in those columns do youhave? How much nutrient do you use for your smaller system. And lastly how many light towers do you use? Thank you for replying.
@@mimiclausen6533 I was trying to figure this out too:) I found the link here (docs.google.com/document/d/1DsThOtZz1AnbvGN08H1S64OluTRDND1hgzJcIYEBP2w/edit)
I think he has 14 towers, each has 7 sites for lettuce, and around 11.5 cm between the y- tees. I also wonder how many light towers (40 lamps in total)
this is true art.
Hey where did you go @maryandjoe?
so sorry - life became super hectic but things are starting to calm down again! :-)
Dear Joe, I work for a charity and are looking to build this set up. Would you be kind enough to share a detailed drawing ?
Hi Ryan, I don't have one, sorry - it's basic - just build your frame, cut and connect the pvc, and add the plumbing. If you read more comments below I have written may notes about construction. Best of luck to you.
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this is glorious!
Do you know anyone that sells a good hydroponic kit that's a little bit smaller to grow food for my family?
Please contact Jim Gale at Permacube. He owns the rights to this system and was in the process of building and marketing some different sizes. Good luck!
MaryandJoe Neumayer thank you : )
hi joe, my vertical garden of your design is doing well outdoors in los angeles. was thinking about building another in my garden shed. I'm trying an experiment with an old tower garden and using 5 -- 6500k, 40 watt led shop lights . www.dropbox.com/s/nncht84yfausvl7/facebook_1578874146482.jpg?dl=0
any suggestions? would you expect the tubes will work a's well a's your bulbs?
Hi Murray, yes, I would anticipate those shop lights will work just fine for lettuce and kale. Looks like you have 10 bulbs - T8's? Should be fine. Unfortunately it's a lot of energy for not so many plants - but over in California you are using more energy from renewable sources than here in Chicago at least. :-)
@@maryneumayer01 Hi Joe, yes, overkill on the lights. I have another more pressing question: going to build another of your vertical gardens at the school where I teach. We want to link three of the 49 pod units together. In your basement, you have two. For three (or a total of 147 pods) using one nutrient tote, do you think I need a stronger pump? Thanks again!!!