When I (under 6-1/2') tried out the S M H stem-handlebar configurations, the the most comfortable for me was the H stem bar angled 1cm+ towards me. As you noted, that slight adjustment still allowed it to fold. That's the one am saving up to get... 12 speed... electric... gonna be awhile. 🙂😉 edited for typos
Thanks for the feedback and completely agree. My monitor ran out of battery and was winging it! Didn't have time to reshoot cause I had to travel back to Wales from Scotland and now working all of this week. Improvements coming next week 🤣
Great video ,just to say resale value can be better for h line ,I had 2 for sale on eBay h line had more bids and fetched more money ,both bikes were same year .so it doesn't need to be a thing to worry about .looking forward to more videos
Thank for the input, not followed the second hand market closely enough but this is great to know. When I was looking for a second had brompton I wanted a S stem at the time but was really difficult to find.
Hello! I already have a (used) brompton - I think with a M stem and I'm tall ... I didn't find, yet, where to get a H stem - do you have any advice? thank you!
I’m 5’10 and ride an S stem, I prefer the lower riding position. I’ve noticed I’m getting a bit of pain in my upper back/shoulders on longer (for me!) rides of over 20 miles. Last weekend I tried mimicking a bar end hand position where I felt safe (smooth roads as I didn’t have a full grip on the bars). This really helped so I think I’ll try some Ergon GP3 grips with bar ends. I’d be curious to know if you’ve tried these and what you think?
Hey Andy sorry for the delayed response. I’ve not tired the 3 only 2 and 4. I rate both highly so have no doubt a 3 would be a good middle ground. Personally think the 2 is perfect but the bigger ones have their place for sure
As a Dane I had no choice but got my bike as a finished bike in the shop, from several to chose from. I bought the very Top in the Shop, a 2019 Flame Painted: "SuperlightM6LXBrompton" (And gave it a full Auto Polish as a first, just to find the ridiculous, clear tape "Protection" on its frame, from the Factory, nearly worn through to the paint, so I bought a new set of carbon plates from the largest suppliers of fine and exclusive, better and lighter Brompton Parts: China, Taiwan and Korea! But my stem post with the M handlebar is actually an H type, with the little distance below the hinge?? I'm well past 6" so it doesn't matter and our Danish, Brompton Bikes are seemingly all delivered as "Standard" with a grown size Seat Post of 600mm! No children sizes up here!! I do also have an original, black telescope post, but it is absurdly Heavy, most likely even in a "Joseph Kuosac", Taiwanese made, special version! Since then I have replaced most loose parts to new ones from Titanium and Carbon, so it is as light as possible, even with its mudguards, as a (Rainy) Dane!! Finn. Denmark
I did read that about Danish bikes coming with bigger lengths because most Danish bikes all come in a natural high sitting position but couldn't find anything official on the brompton website.
@@TheBromptonGuy I didn't see any among the several type Samples in the Shop, with an S bar? In this case it was also an ordinary bike shop (I only know of one special Brompton Shop?). And as we Danes mostly use our bikes near daily for rides in traffic, the most decent position when riding, is preferrable! So the M type was what they had! An S bar would compare to a Racing bike, without the possibilities for a better position also. Finn. Denmark
Hey Kev so I've just recently done this and my overall verdict is yes but if you are the type of rider that stands up a lot when cycling you may find yourself more likely to knee smash the bars. Overall the H bar is longer but the S bar is ever so slightly more curved. All that said.. I've never rode a S stem for a long period of time and might also find myself knee smashing it also. Hope that helps.
Nice vid. Other than stem length, is the shape different between the three models - ie, is there more or less of a 'bend' in one model or another? I ride an S stem bike, but after some back ache, I replaced the bar with a 40mm rise bar (cables were fine) and then changed that to a 80mm rise bar (had to change the cables to M type). Works well now and looks better than the factory M, imo, with a taller stem (S stem length > M stem length), and a less pronounced bend in the bars (more racy). And it folds ok, but maybe because I have a rack and wheels.... If I change my stem someday, I'd def go with an H stem for the reasons you mentioned, and come back to the more flattish 40mm rise bar, maybe with some backsweep.
I find the reach of the brompton just way too far, I like an upright position and even with the H handlebars I have to lean forward to reach the bars. I wish brompton made a stem that brings the bars a bit closer to the rider! For now I just use some aftermarket bars with a lot of backsweep, but it does increase the fold.
Very fair comment and certainly see your point. Suppose the only reason they avoid it is simply as you state the increased fold. It is amazing how many third party parts help people solve their problems
@@TheBromptonGuy Yeah I tried a stem extender too but they are quite heavy. I dream of owning a T-line at some point and seeing how there's no H Stem I would really need to Frankenstein a setup for that haha.
Brompton should think about bringing back the that had the P - handle bars = the stem was shorter to allow the folding with those handle bars because they were taller bars much more versatile which gave you three options of holding the bars , after market have come up with mini P-handle bars but they are too small to get the true versatility of the original bars , that concludes the history of when you have something that’s good Brompton just leave it be , obviously another decision made around the coffee machine = my advice = get rid of the coffee machine maybe the good idea will stay .
I have the H stem on mine, but paired with flat bars, folds fine
I do reckon I'll give this combination a go for sure. Would like slightly wider bars for my off-road brompton.
Hi, I have just asked the question. Are there any problems to look out for if I do the same and put a straight bar on my bromptom ?
@@KevinTerrelonge I have not had any problems with mine, I now have 3 inch riser on it, and my bars are 2ft wide including grips
@@ianboyd9723 did you need to change brake cables ?
I'm only 5"6. I got an s-stem but i wish id got an m-stem: so much easier to make bars higher than to lower them
For sure! Just means you’re armed with more knowledge should you ever purchase another one
When I (under 6-1/2') tried out the S M H stem-handlebar configurations, the the most comfortable for me was the H stem bar angled 1cm+ towards me. As you noted, that slight adjustment still allowed it to fold. That's the one am saving up to get... 12 speed... electric... gonna be awhile. 🙂😉
edited for typos
Yeah the 12speed E price is definitely steep. Thinking to pick myself up a second hand 6speed E 🤔
Interesting and informative. Pity we couldn't see some of your demos which were out of frame.
Thanks for the feedback and completely agree. My monitor ran out of battery and was winging it! Didn't have time to reshoot cause I had to travel back to Wales from Scotland and now working all of this week. Improvements coming next week 🤣
Great video ,just to say resale value can be better for h line ,I had 2 for sale on eBay h line had more bids and fetched more money ,both bikes were same year .so it doesn't need to be a thing to worry about .looking forward to more videos
Thank for the input, not followed the second hand market closely enough but this is great to know. When I was looking for a second had brompton I wanted a S stem at the time but was really difficult to find.
Tell you what. It is very good to hear from a guy that is a very experienced cyclist. Keep up the good work.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for the comment, beyond appreciated my friend
Hello! I already have a (used) brompton - I think with a M stem and I'm tall ... I didn't find, yet, where to get a H stem - do you have any advice? thank you!
I’m 5’10 and ride an S stem, I prefer the lower riding position. I’ve noticed I’m getting a bit of pain in my upper back/shoulders on longer (for me!) rides of over 20 miles. Last weekend I tried mimicking a bar end hand position where I felt safe (smooth roads as I didn’t have a full grip on the bars). This really helped so I think I’ll try some Ergon GP3 grips with bar ends. I’d be curious to know if you’ve tried these and what you think?
Hey Andy sorry for the delayed response. I’ve not tired the 3 only 2 and 4. I rate both highly so have no doubt a 3 would be a good middle ground. Personally think the 2 is perfect but the bigger ones have their place for sure
As a Dane I had no choice but got my bike as a finished bike in the shop, from several to chose from. I bought the very Top in the Shop, a 2019 Flame Painted: "SuperlightM6LXBrompton" (And gave it a full Auto Polish as a first, just to find the ridiculous, clear tape "Protection" on its frame, from the Factory, nearly worn through to the paint, so I bought a new set of carbon plates from the largest suppliers of fine and exclusive, better and lighter Brompton Parts: China, Taiwan and Korea!
But my stem post with the M handlebar is actually an H type, with the little distance below the hinge?? I'm well past 6" so it doesn't matter and our Danish, Brompton Bikes are seemingly all delivered as "Standard" with a grown size Seat Post of 600mm! No children sizes up here!! I do also have an original, black telescope post, but it is absurdly Heavy, most likely even in a "Joseph Kuosac", Taiwanese made, special version!
Since then I have replaced most loose parts to new ones from Titanium and Carbon, so it is as light as possible, even with its mudguards, as a (Rainy) Dane!! Finn. Denmark
I did read that about Danish bikes coming with bigger lengths because most Danish bikes all come in a natural high sitting position but couldn't find anything official on the brompton website.
@@TheBromptonGuy I didn't see any among the several type Samples in the Shop, with an S bar? In this case it was also an ordinary bike shop (I only know of one special Brompton Shop?). And as we Danes mostly use our bikes near daily for rides in traffic, the most decent position when riding, is preferrable! So the M type was what they had! An S bar would compare to a Racing bike, without the possibilities for a better position also. Finn. Denmark
I am 6ft2 and find the M stem better for me though
Hi, I have an H handle bar brompton. Can I put a straight handle bars on the stem I already have ?
Hey Kev so I've just recently done this and my overall verdict is yes but if you are the type of rider that stands up a lot when cycling you may find yourself more likely to knee smash the bars. Overall the H bar is longer but the S bar is ever so slightly more curved.
All that said.. I've never rode a S stem for a long period of time and might also find myself knee smashing it also.
Hope that helps.
Nice vid. Other than stem length, is the shape different between the three models - ie, is there more or less of a 'bend' in one model or another? I ride an S stem bike, but after some back ache, I replaced the bar with a 40mm rise bar (cables were fine) and then changed that to a 80mm rise bar (had to change the cables to M type). Works well now and looks better than the factory M, imo, with a taller stem (S stem length > M stem length), and a less pronounced bend in the bars (more racy). And it folds ok, but maybe because I have a rack and wheels.... If I change my stem someday, I'd def go with an H stem for the reasons you mentioned, and come back to the more flattish 40mm rise bar, maybe with some backsweep.
Brillant comment, thank you for the input.
I find the reach of the brompton just way too far, I like an upright position and even with the H handlebars I have to lean forward to reach the bars. I wish brompton made a stem that brings the bars a bit closer to the rider!
For now I just use some aftermarket bars with a lot of backsweep, but it does increase the fold.
Very fair comment and certainly see your point. Suppose the only reason they avoid it is simply as you state the increased fold. It is amazing how many third party parts help people solve their problems
@@TheBromptonGuy Yeah I tried a stem extender too but they are quite heavy. I dream of owning a T-line at some point and seeing how there's no H Stem I would really need to Frankenstein a setup for that haha.
Brompton should think about bringing back the that had the P - handle bars = the stem was shorter to allow the folding with those handle bars because they were taller bars much more versatile which gave you three options of holding the bars , after market have come up with mini P-handle bars but they are too small to get the true versatility of the original bars , that concludes the history of when you have something that’s good Brompton just leave it be , obviously another decision made around the coffee machine = my advice = get rid of the coffee machine maybe the good idea will stay .
I still promise at some point when my finances recover I'll try and review a set a P bars. Would be great for bike packing
@@TheBromptonGuy the new mini P bars are no good so don’t waste your time.