Bent Planter Frame Finally Headed For Major Repair!
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Andy "aTrippyFarmer" Dole is a 6th generation farmer from Central Illinois. On this farm, Andy works alongside his father, Marty, his uncles, Chris and Jeff, and his sister, Katie, to grow corn and soybeans on some of the finest dirt in the world. Andy and his family are deeply rooted in the area, operating a large farm that traces it origins back into the 1800s. Although some tracts did not stand the test of time, Andy and his family still grow corn and soybeans on fields that have been in the family for longer than even the oldest members of the farm have been alive. We do, we have, and we always will take tremendous pride in calling this piece of paradise our home. Andy was a Bronze Tablet graduate of the University of Illinois in the field of Crop Sciences, following the same path as his father and late grandfather.
It would be misleading for Andy to claim that this life is one that came by chance; rather, as a member of two multi-generational farm families, it was simply in his blood. His passion for agriculture traces back to his early youth--some of his fondest, earliest memories being of days spent riding in the combine with his father and grandfather. Although his understanding of the lifestyle was much less complex in the beginning, the love he has for farming, and its industry has only appreciated through time. As this dream blossomed into adulthood, Andy now works relentlessly, and tirelessly, to chase his own dreams and to build a farming operation of his own alongside his family.
We, as a whole operation, are handymen, electricians, mechanics, landscapers, accountants, economists, caretakers, stewards, and, most importantly, farmers, and we take an incredible amount of pride in our work. There is no challenge too overwhelming, no situation too stressful, and no problem too difficult for us to take on, and we want to take you along with us. Welcome to our farm and welcome to our lives. You have the best seat in the house to watch the everyday chaos of farming unfold--we usually only get concerned when things aren't going wrong!
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Hi Andy, tell your father the best wishes and a speedy recovery for his shoulder. I love his driving style in harvest. He is always under a lot of adrenalin...
Haha I don't know if it's adrenaline. He just likes to move quick and get things done!
Hope Mort is doing well. Surprised to see him without red on
His red t shirts are a little hard to get into with the shoulders... he is done okay other than poor sleep from the healing process. Hopefully he is ready to run a planter!
Love these kind of videos!
I am glad that you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the generator grease tip, never knew.
I might've saved you some money and downtime! It is some sort of Molybdenum grease. Your JD dealership should have it.
👍😀@@aTrippyFarmer
Hey, train guy here. Prayers for your wonderful young family. And prayers for your dad's complete healing. I just saw a Accuweather alert for Matoon. Long range, 12 days or so, freezing will still be occurring. Darn, looking forward to planting season. God bless and pray for warmer days.
Yep! Winter is not quite over yet, despite the warmth we have seen. No worries... we will have plenty of time to plant!
Dang Andy!, Take it easy on Chris, not that long ago nobody would've imagined these high speed planters that need a seperate electrical/air system to deliver seeds that fast! Lol! Game changers for the industry though.
Chris has helped me hook up these electrically driven planters for almost 7 years... 🤣
Been a truck driver for 35 plus years and unless you can buy deleted trucks stick with what you have. A little as you use them buying new would not be cost effective, not to mention these new trucks break sitting still and have 1000 sensors that continuingly go off. New bigger trailers are your best bang for your buck. The trailer determines how much you're going to make the truck just determines how fast you're going to get there!
Speed isn't always your friend, especially when it comes to fuel efficiency. Our trucks are probably worth 25,000 in today's declining used market, maybe slightly more. It would take us $60,000 a piece to trade into used newer models at least.
Take that 120k and a little more and get bigger newer trailers.
When you take apart the planter generator for greasing, can’t you install the first half on the tractor and then reassemble the generator. This way you don’t have to haul the complete generator assembly onto the PTO at the same time.
(Disclaimer: that’s 6th Gen farmer‘s idea)
The manual says to do exactly what you said, but that sounds like more work. I'd rather just lift it and complain... haha
Andy, thanks for your explanations on how all of this farming technology works. I appreciate Chris' question to you about the electrical generator on the PTO as well.
Chris's question makes me chuckle because he has been around these type of planters for almost 7 years and helped me hook them up almost yearly. I thought he would understand that by now!
Well I think he understands that part now, lol. Thank you for another great video Andy.@@aTrippyFarmer
Gramlow ltd up in North Dakota makes track systems for the db planters and you put a new lift frame on for it. Solved all our issues wheel frame issues on our db.
Patience Andy
I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...
Great job Andy! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!!
Andy thanks for taking your time sharing. Enjoy your content.Keep the action and knowledge coming. Be safe!!
Use colored zip ties to mark your hoses for easy hook up.
I might buy these colored ends and replace all of the fittings on the older planter next season.
Buy the hose covers can't think where I got mine from, numbers thr hoses and where they go I think outback is the name
Andy, a must-have in a farm shed it a peak angled skylight. Let's in so much more light than the wall ones. Could be a good improvement 👍
We have skylights in the older, red shed by my house. They work really well, and I don't know why dad didn't put some in the newer shed. It could've been a potential for leakage? I am not sure!
The beeping noise is coming from a speaker in the fuse panel, it looks like a relay but has holes on the top of it. I usually pull it out in times like this.
Now you tell me! 🤣
Let's see if you can get the steiner 715 for deep ripping season. That be a fun experience.
That would be great. I'd love to try one.
With new trucks you will need DEF and there are always sensors going.Also if the truck isn't run at highway speed enough then you will be always regenning it which takes about 45 minutes each time you do it.
It sounds to me like you should buy and delete or not buy at all!
@@aTrippyFarmer if you buy a new truck it will take 1-2 years to get it as most dealers don't have many trucks on hand that aren't already sold.
You have 2 separate planters, one for corn and one for beans? You can't use one planter for both crops? When I raised both corn and milo, I just changed the plates. I know the row spacing is different but $500,000 is a lot of money!
We would have two planters regardless of row spacing differences. It is about capitalizing on the most important window of the season, planting. Both planters could technically plant the other crop, but both planters are almost always planting either crops at the same time.
we started working fields today in sw wisc fields that we chiseled last fall ex dry for march 2 and yes it sucks getting these prices after losing 40% of are yield last year from drought.
I am going to work some stuff next week. I would like to save moisture otherwise.
I remember my first year getting ready for planting and trying to set up sprayer plumbing for the first time. The neighbor pulled into the field across the road from our building site. He had an IH 450A four row planter with a trip rope clutch to raise and lower it and a drawbar bin hooking it to his H Farmall. He planted 20 acres while I was trying to figure sprayer plumbing.
We go thru some long wait time hauling to the river north east Ohio it doesn't make for a productive day been bad this year waiting on barge's
At least you are probably getting a great bid compared to local commercial storage!
At the 6:30 mark, it reminded me of when I.H. tried an electrically driven baler. The three faze generator was mounted to the side of the tractors engine. It was not a big hit, and they went back to pto powered balers.
I would officially like to nominate Marty's physical therapists for the highest honor any person can receive! My dad and Marty could have been brothers!
Haha he is friendlier than he seems at time, but he sure can be ornery!
I'm pretty surprised by those tolerances on the planter components in that critical area. What's up from Bloomington, IL representing Gatlinburg, TN.
I probably didn't perfectly represent what the gentlemen said. That was just the way that I interpreted it. The other 2-3 replacements that Deere shipped were also warped/bent/not straight. That indicates that this is a relatively common circumstance.
Your better off with older trucks especially if your not putting many miles on them ive got a 2013 model an the repair bills are out of hand
A lot of people said that!!!
You should get Katie a new s7 700 combine.😂 They look sweet.
They do look pretty neat. These things are getting priced beyond the point of reasonable, though.
@@aTrippyFarmer That's is sad. I just sat through a grain marketing meeting and the crop future prices are down right discouraging. 😔
@@samcoon3822 crop prices are always variable. It's just getting harder to justify spending money on these reliably depreciating machines versus installing things that provide more direct value to the farm, like drainage systems, grain bins, etc..
@@aTrippyFarmer The Panama Canal is closed, and the red sea is not very safe for deport, the only way is to go all they way around south America. This makes shipping very exspensive and China can buy from Russia and Brasil cheaper then what they can buy from us because of that. Also China's population is declining, so it does not take as much food to feed them. I hope deere can sell these new 9rx and s7, but it might be a struggle.
@@samcoon3822 it will sell very well in Canada and the Great Plains. I guess they need that kind of horsepower to pull those huge air seeder trains. Those farms are also massive and the farmers have a lot of money.
You need a motorized auger
They are very expensive. You can buy 2.5x these conveyors for what it costs to get the self-propelled option on one of them.
been watching your videos for awhile now appreciate your ability to communicate and explain things. instead of updating trucks and trailers why not invest in an auger that is hydraulic driven around farm yard? take the labor out of it and keep the old guys involved as long as possible plus save your back. just a view from the cheap seats
I think that is a luxury, not a necessity. It would be nice, and maybe we will have one someday.
@7:20 left rear outside duel... is that wedge coming loose on the top of the axel? it's definitely not drawn in as far as the bottom one (I know top and bottom alternate with the rotation of the axel that's why I put in the time )
Hey Andy - Appreciate the video. Quick Question. Larson Farms was down in Texas, and recently made a video about John Deere's 'See and Spray Premium' for Hagie Sprayers. They are claiming a 50% reduction in Herbicide. Couldn't help but think of your Sprayer when I saw the video.
Curious to know if you have any opinions on the technology and if it's something that interests you.
That is a great question! First off, it is awesome that Larson's got the opportunity to go to a demonstration like that. That is a testament to their influence on the agriculture industry.
I will do my best to share my opinion as simply as possible. From a technological standpoint, the See and Spray system is incredible. The hardware and software combination required to process and utilize that complex of a system is overwhelmingly complicated, which could probably be an obvious downside to it. I can only speak to practical usage for corn and soybeans in our area of the world. I have heard that it has a lot of promise for Cotton because they make multiple passes of herbicide each growing season.
At first glance, it seems like an obvious solution to the US's continued trend towards mitigation of agriculture's effect on the environment. There may be a day where farmer's are required or receive a premium for utilizing reduced-pesticide technology like this. I do see some massive flaws with the system. Firstly, the technology is somewhat limited in ground speed (12mph was the max). That is at least 3 mph slower than what most farmers spray at, and some drive upwards of 20mph. I have heard this is being improved shortly, so it could be a short-lived complaint. The other main limitation is a lack of capability below row spacing of 30". Many soybean farmers and even some corn growers plant in 15 and 20" rows. Again, this would be non-negotiable hurdle for many growers. This is also supposedly being integrated shortly, so it may not be an issue at some point.
Secondly, you have to consider the economics of the hardware, the application, and the herbicides. The See and Spray Ultimate system, which has two solution tanks and two separate spray boom systems, is roughly $200,000 more than the top-of-the-line sprayer builds offered by John Deere. I have heard that puts these sprayers North of $800,000. I have never priced one, so I do not know. I think $400,000 is ridiculous for a sprayer, but we passed that price point a long time ago. Equipment has inflated in price beyond reason, especially given the lack of inflation in farm profits. That is not a discussion for today. It is a very real issue in the current farm economy. New machines cost almost 1.5-2x more than they did 10 years ago, but they do not provide that amount of value to farmers versus the models 10 years ago. Anyways, on top of the hardware cost, which isn't unreasonable, you ALSO have to pay a software fee for EVERY acre that you run the SnS system on. You don't have to pay to have the hardware and just do a standard broadcast spray. Basically, if you want to use the system that you paid $200,000 to add, you also have to pay the reoccurring activation fee on every acre that you spray. Allegedly, the fee is $4 per acre. That is a lot of money, especially given how many acres that farmers could cover with this. For reference, current custom application fees for broadcast spraying is a TOTAL of $7-8 per acre in my area. That means that retailers and custom applicators would have to push custom rates up to a minimum of $12 per acre to use this on a farm, and it would likely be priced even higher in totality due to the added equipment cost AND the reduction of profits from herbicide sales. This is a huge issue for farmers when it comes to justifying this equipment and software fee. When herbicide prices rise due to supply shortages, this price point could make sense. They usually follow the price of grain, ironically, and chemicals are nearly 50-60% cheaper than they were last season. It makes the economics of this very unreasonable in the corn belt.
Lastly, the BIGGEST issue of the SnS system is a matter of herbicide resistance and reliance on a small number of products. This is lost on most people that aren't familiar with weed control and sound management practice. In theory, it makes perfect sense to only spray weeds that are emerged to "save" and "reduce" herbicide loads. That appears to be a great idea, except it isn't. The more we rely on specific herbicides for killing genetically diverse and metabolically efficient weeds, the faster that we increase selection pressure. This creates herbicide resistance. It has been happening for decades, and it has really sky rocketed in the last two decades with round-up ready technology. Farmers have to rely on resistance traits, especially in soybeans, to control emerged broadleaf weeds. A lot of the weeds, like waterhemp, are rapidly growing resistant to our only effective herbicides that don't also kill our soybeans. This is a big issue even without See and Spray involved. Currently, the most effective thing to do on HR weeds is to tank mix ALL of your useful active ingredients to kill emerged weeds as opposed to rely on one chemistry alone. This does mostly work, but it will eventually lose its potency due to the same adaptions that I mentioned early. The price component of this also makes it impractical from cost perspective. Farmer don't like throwing the whole kitchen sink at things because it requires a large chunk of money per acre, which can be tight on a lot of operations. Regardless of that tangent, the See And Spray wouldn't directly expedite this because you can do exactly what I just said: use multiple herbicide chemistries within the spot spray system. The issue, though, is that relying on herbicides to kill EMERGED weeds is one of the most irresponsible management strategies given the vigor of these weeds. They are hard to kill, especially when they have the same metabolic strength as today's corn hybrids. To counteract this, there is an increasingly important reliance on residual herbicide chemistries. The easiest time to kill a weed is before it is out of the ground. Seedlings have a limited amount of energy and capability to metabolize residual, soil-incorporated herbicides. Farmers have realized this moreso in the last decade, and many programs, especially in soybeans, really heavily in residuals to control weed populations. If less weeds come out of the ground, your post emergence pass doesn't have to work as hard to save you. John Deere has recognized this issue by creating the two solution tank/boom system. Essentially, while running the SnS, one boom can be actively spot spraying emerged weeds, and the other boom can be broadcasting residual chemistries to prevent the issues that I have mentioned. This works great in theory, but the current economics and agronomics don't line up with it. Many of our effective broadleaf and grass herbicides useful for emerged weeds, especially some of the more expensive ones, actually do have residual activity on top of their leaf-based activity. Callisto, known chemically as Mesotrione, for example, is a mainstay of current corn herbicide programs. Ironically, it is a relatively cheap active ingredient. It is one of these products that offers both impressive activity on emerged weeds as well as residual activity in the soil. There are certain other herbicides that have varying degrees of this same duality, like Dicamba, Atrazine, Bicyclopyrone, and a few others. Callisto is a great example of the economic and agronomic flaws of the SnS system. A full 6 oz rate of Callisto by itself costs maybe $6-7 per acre, if that. Normally, you would tank mix in other chemistries or buy premixes that compile of multiple modes of action.
How do you justify all of this added equipment expense as well as a $4 per acre increase in tech fees when the products you are broadcasting are already effective, not agronomically sound to remove from a broadcast application, and priced competitively even at rates that cover the entire field? It is a tough question for farmers in the Midwest to answer. The two possible scenarios that justify this transition is a government mandate to reduced herbicide usage, which would probably leads us to row-crop cultivators anyways, and/or a drastic increase in chemical prices.
How do custom applicators price a pass with all of this technology? These people also make money by upcharging the chemical that they sell, so it will be a net negative in profitability unless the sharply move the application price up. Farmers will not get on board with that, in my opinion.
To summarize my long-winded dissertation, I think the See And Spray Ultimate is a phenomenal advancement in technology that most definitely has a fit in the future, but I do not think the agronomics and economics of corn and soybean farming currently support wide-spread adoption. I could certainly be wrong!
@@aTrippyFarmer Really appreciate you taking the time to type that up, it was an fascinating perspective.
I can't speak for why other people come to your videos, but I always appreciate you getting deeper into the financial aspects of farming and the economics of bringing a crop to market.
Keep up the great work, looking forward to Planting Season 2024!
Love the vid. I wanted to ask what is ur opinion on the new 9rx and the new s7 combine coming out soon? So you think you guys would ever upgrade to the new combine or hard to say?
The big 9RX isn't going to be around the Midwest in significant numbers for a while. The high horsepower is tailored towards small grains farmers pulling massive air seed and cart combos. These huge Canadian and Great Plains farmers will suck up all of the initial production. Midwest farmers will have some, but most farmers don't currently have a need for that much horsepower. There will probably be a new generation of tillage equipment that can use that power, but some of our stuff actually would lose its finishing ability with the amount of speed/power available. I'm not saying that we wouldn't get a new combine, even an X9, but grain prices right now do not excite that conversation. This equipment has inflated in price beyond what is reasonable unless you have a lot of excess revenue.
Might want to throw a dollar in that jar! lol
You’d be money ahead to take those trucks you have and completely go threw them front to back repair any and everything def is a pain in the back side, I have a 2024 42k miles one sensor failure cost 3k between towing and everything
These trucks are actually fairly low miles for their age. They have about 350k a piece, roughly. They've both had engine work done, and everything else isn't too expensive to fix when it comes due. They may not look the coolest, but they get the job done.
Andy , which planter design do you like best DB 70. Or the NT 1775 ?
I like the DB60 more. Pulling from the drawbar just seems like a better system.
As someone that went to college for lighting design. You should light your face with another light so your audience can see you. A good option would be a cell phone ring light that can be found at Home Depot.
That is a great idea in theory. Realistically, I don't have time to mess with that extra equipment.
Marty should buy you peterbuilt 389 lol 😅
If I had Marty's money, I'd burn mine! 🤣
Are you getting the new 9RX 830?
Yes in about 10 years!
Try 1 truck before upgrading the whole fleer
Good idea!
A new conveyer would benefit you I’d think one person to move with motorized one over 4 people and the possibility of hitting someone by dropping the hopper
I don't think safety is that big of a concern. Injury from exertion is a more reasonable concern. I'd like a self-propelled conveyor. However, like I told another commenter, the factory SP option on this Batco conveyor would could you another 25,000. That is almost another 1.5 conveyors.
Why was the slams going off on planter tractor
There was a sensor on the PTO generator that was out of range. It is irrelevant unless the PTO and generation system are active, so I don't know why it had to be so horrid just to move the tractor.
Penny heck it's up to 2.00 dollars with inflation.
I would not get any trucks with a Paccar engine in it. Them are junk. Get one with a Cummins or a Mack
I have heard that from someone else. Thanks!
Just unplug the damn thing
I could've probably gotten the planter raised and then unplugged the ISO harness. I'm sure that would've stopped it.
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Lets do a poll on what happened to his nose. A. The wife said no & moved forward anyway. B. He went out drinking with the fellas again. C. He got to relaxed with the gun scope 😎
He had a cancerous spot removed.
Pretty sure that he didn't try to r@pe his wife.
I've talked about my nose multiple times. Skin cancer. Strange comment.