kuro knows geshulin is one of them most antecipaded characters and i dont think they waste the character to be scar dont get me wrong i love both characters but discard geshulin to be playable is bad i hope this theroy turns out to be not true
@@BoredDior Yeah, character alts are not unheard of. That said, I've never heard of using different voice actors for the same character, in the same language, for the same game. (Unless there is a significant age gap, or the original VA is no longer a part of the team, or something like that.)
Camu and Kamui in PGR are technically lore wise the same person, but at different instances in time. And both of them are playable. Then you look at Honkai 3rd and that doesn’t need an explanation. Point is, they can be the same person and still both be playable
I was about to agree but the last part is contradicting to each other, the mindset of Geshulin and Scar is completely different. Like by far. - Geshulin wants to stop the lament no matter what it cost either [losing midnight ranger] or [losing friends, foes and family] no matter what happen, his desire to get rid the Tacet Discord, Threnodian, Overthrax is immaculately insane, his objective and goal to defeat the enemy is giving me Kawaki vibe, only the mindset but not the characteristics because Kawaki is a bit selfish and fraud while Geshulin is not, but interms of Objectives, Goals and Plan, both of them is so eager to fulfill the goal no matter what. - (On the other hand) Scar mindset is different, Scar used to be the Black Lamb in the story but along the line, he became the Sheppard. He doesn’t want to stop the Lament, he is the one who causing it, Phrolova has an ability to summon Tacet Discord and also she is the cause of reviving the Threnodian which is the dreamless, you can see her showing up before the Threnodian and Overthrax got revived and you can also see her in the background when Rover and Jiyan finally defeated the Dreamless. Now i think about it, i think Scar is more like Madara to me because Madara and Scar do care about other people before, but due to evil of this world, they become one, Madara and Scar wants to use the power of enemy and changes the shape of the world into their selfish desire, to a world that they called “Paradise” but in their own way. So what im trying to say is Geshulin and Scar may have a similarity before because both of them want to stop the Lament (if Scar used to be member of blackshore) but Scar changes his desire and become the enemy he disguise himself to lure other sheep into his trap, manipulating them so he will receive a praise that look like he is the Savior but he’s not and then fall into the darkside while Geshulin (even his fanthom) is the one who courage Jiyan to push his limit as a Commander General to stop the Threnodian (this is the reason why you shouldn’t skip dialogue) Geshulin even stated that “Are you gonna stay here waiting for Retroact Rain to stop just because of some panthom?” Indicating that he is pushing Jiyan to be brave and act like a Real General and set a side the emotions and feeling for the death of fallen soldier. So Geshulin desire is to stop the Lament while Scar and Phrolova keep reviving the Threnodian, Overthrax and take advantage of the Lament to push their agenda.
Good summary. One area i'd say differently is your comparisons. Geshulin is more like Kawaki over Boruto. Bc Kawaki is so obsessed with killing the Ootsuki that he is willing to toss away every bond he has to acheive that goal. He is even crazy enough to off himself in the end bc he is also technically part Ootsuki. In that, it is similar to Geshulin's hate towards TD's. Bc Geshulin is also willing to sacrifice anything in order to kill them all. Both are consumed & blinded by their hate. Scar is probably closer to Code. In the way Code worships the Ootsuki & wants them to reign supreme, Scar also wants to create a world where the Lament happens & TD's are on top. The similarities stop there though as Code is more like a serious & religious zealot & Scar is more like a crazy & happy lover of chaos.
@@danielw.2456 Oh yeah, that’s one way to go too, i only input Boruto characteristics to Geshulin because he is hatred by friend and sees him as a villain while Boruto is so focused to his objective but yea, that’s also correct too, i forgot that. Yea he is more like Kawaki because of how driven his goal to get rid the enemy and he will not waver eventho it’ll cost the life of his friend and family. Also Scar i think more like Madara coz both of them want to change the world into their own selfish desire, anyway thanks for correction i might edit my comment so it’ll not create confusion.
@@danielw.2456 I think its pretty apparent that Scar and rest of the Fracsidus don't want "TDs on top", they want to live together with them, to the point where the Lament just becomes part of life. And to do that you pretty much have to overthrow all authority and implant TD tissue into all living humans, since those who survive the procedure, like the Fracsidus members - are no longer attacked by TDs, they're recognized as their own by the TDs. It's all about joining together with someone you can't beat and learning to live with them. TDs aren't "evil" per se, they just instinctively seek to merge with anyone whose frequencies aren't discordant like theirs.
Firstly tacet marks aren’t different for everyone and around the time geshu Lin was the general scar already existed, and there is no way Kuro would just throw away geshu Lin like that and make them into one cause kuro gotta get that bag 💰 Yk?
I mean pretty much every playable characters have different echo marks whether it's the location or the size(and if you look at both Scar and Geshu, they are almost identical in location and size).How did you know Scar existed back then because all information about Geshu Lin was from the past when Jiyan was just a normal soldier and there was no info regarding Scar in that preview too. And second they can still release multiple version of same characters like in PGR and other hoyoverse games(they don't have to go with the Genshin route with One character gets one version of them in game). Although it's the most absurd theory but somehow makes sense(at least to me😂😂)
Their tacet mark are not even placed the same...Whoever thought of this bs is delusional. They don't even have an ounce of similarity in their personalites
I don't think Geshulin is Scar because their eye shapes look different. Even though they both have tacet marks on their necks, if you look closer the marks are different. Geshu has more star diamond shapes while Scar's are thicker and have more waves If tacets marks cannot be on the same place on different resonators than either Scar is either a shadow or mirror of Geshulin but definitely not him
@ambearyyeet Geshu is literally based on an existing character. same thing with Scar. Plus, tacet mark have limited placement design wise. Both Jiyan and Jinshi had theirs on their back. it doesn't mean they're the same person for that yk
@@Heshu-i2t yes, jiyan and Jinhsi have it on the same place, but they have different shapes still. Jiyan's covers almost all of his back, meanwhile Jinhsi's is smaller, like most of the other characters. Jiyan's is a different shape. Scar and Geshu Lin have the exact same tacet mark, no differences in size or placement. So I kinda fail to see your point :/
Please no, Geshulin is this badass Swordsman general who is honed in combat, commanded an army and is charismatic. Then theres scar, probably a drug abused junkie who talks like a mental patient, fist fights and throws damn cards like he on sun crack
geshulin has a small cut mark on his lips, which scar dont have. A new cut can appear But the old cut wont disappear . I doubt they are same person, maybe they are brothers and after lin vanished scar decided to go down a different path.
Not this theory again 😂 Chronologically it doesnt make sense, not only that both characters are anticipated, Kuro is not going to waste them like that 😅
O. M. G. My two favourite characters... are actually THE SAME CHARACTER!? 🤯 Goddammit! Now I wish I could do the black lamb story again!! 😫 I am not about to make a WHOLE NEW ACCOUNT, just to do a quest... yet..
About the tacet mark they can share jinshi & jiyan both of their marks are on their back, not to mention that scar uses cards and we saw that while genshu uses claymore and we saw that in jiyans trailer
weakest idea ever ... the voice is already proving them to be different people and more importantly Sanhua *who see's people's resonance* saw Scar and didn't recognized Geshu Lin tell that redditor to never cook again please!
To me I think this theory is false since they look totally different and isn't geshulin dead? Also if scar and geshulin were the same person then kuro would lose lots of money since geshulin is a very anticipated character
still prefer Scar over Geshu. although this theory is quite interesting. let's wait and see what Kuro is planning for the future. meanwhile, Camellya might be released earlier than Scar so i'll pull her for now. :3
Two must pulls in one? Humans have only so many places where you can have a tacet mark. So two out of maybe millions is not that groundbreaking 😅 And since Scar and Geshu Lin are both very very awaited and would potentially make a lot of people pull for both banners… = profits… it’s very unlikely Kuro would pull a Firefly and delete one whole character by making it just an mecha outfit. Or in this case an earlier version.
Idk why but Cronwless could also be a character/human. Scar's iddle animation or when he "holds" his head crownless do the same could he be idk... ? geshulin? Crownless uses a spear and a "claymore", like jiyan does so idk... im just yapping maybe xD
I dont think people get what youre saying. Scar is geshu lin after he went and did the thing. Making Jiyan general just before. We might get a version of geshu lin if we can "unscarify" him somehow. These arguments really cant be ignored. There are similarities. They could be brothers. (The arm not counting In this theory.) Im inclined to believe this theory. But also id really like both
SO was I the only one who immediately thought that those 2 were the same person? I mean the white hair and the statement of being wronged or betrayed, as well as both being a little nuts, one more than the other. To be fair 2 characters being similar yet being totally different people does happen, so honestly Koru can decide to go either way, depending on what story they want to tell, or just simply from the fact that I know most people will want to get both in the game
thank you for talking about it. i started wondering about them being the same person ever since i saw them th first time. i don't know if this makes sense, but in my mind it does
I am waiting patiently for them both cuz I like them both but Nah , I don't want this to be true I want them seperately but if I get to choose just one it will definitely be the fallen general
geshu lin has a scar on his mouth while scar doesnt. Maybe the plot twist is that they are twins, but it is almost impossible that they are the same person
Wait, I don't think Scar's arm is mechanical? Where was it told or clearly shown? Upd. I mean it looks simply as his costume and he wears gloves so can't tell if it's really mechanical. I suppose it's just costume design
Scar --> ghesulin maybe he traveling to thailand and make surgery become keypop.. 😄 Good job kuro many people already curious obout the story.. thts the point kuro money always coming when they are greedy.. thirsty Hope kuro doesnt read it😂
kuro knows geshulin is one of them most antecipaded characters and i dont think they waste the character to be scar dont get me wrong i love both characters but discard geshulin to be playable is bad i hope this theroy turns out to be not true
could still get both even if they are the same person somehow
@@BoredDior Yeah, character alts are not unheard of.
That said, I've never heard of using different voice actors for the same character, in the same language, for the same game. (Unless there is a significant age gap, or the original VA is no longer a part of the team, or something like that.)
Camu and Kamui in PGR are technically lore wise the same person, but at different instances in time. And both of them are playable.
Then you look at Honkai 3rd and that doesn’t need an explanation.
Point is, they can be the same person and still both be playable
I was about to agree but the last part is contradicting to each other, the mindset of Geshulin and Scar is completely different. Like by far.
- Geshulin wants to stop the lament no matter what it cost either [losing midnight ranger] or [losing friends, foes and family] no matter what happen, his desire to get rid the Tacet Discord, Threnodian, Overthrax is immaculately insane, his objective and goal to defeat the enemy is giving me Kawaki vibe, only the mindset but not the characteristics because Kawaki is a bit selfish and fraud while Geshulin is not, but interms of Objectives, Goals and Plan, both of them is so eager to fulfill the goal no matter what.
- (On the other hand) Scar mindset is different, Scar used to be the Black Lamb in the story but along the line, he became the Sheppard. He doesn’t want to stop the Lament, he is the one who causing it, Phrolova has an ability to summon Tacet Discord and also she is the cause of reviving the Threnodian which is the dreamless, you can see her showing up before the Threnodian and Overthrax got revived and you can also see her in the background when Rover and Jiyan finally defeated the Dreamless. Now i think about it, i think Scar is more like Madara to me because Madara and Scar do care about other people before, but due to evil of this world, they become one, Madara and Scar wants to use the power of enemy and changes the shape of the world into their selfish desire, to a world that they called “Paradise” but in their own way.
So what im trying to say is Geshulin and Scar may have a similarity before because both of them want to stop the Lament (if Scar used to be member of blackshore) but Scar changes his desire and become the enemy he disguise himself to lure other sheep into his trap, manipulating them so he will receive a praise that look like he is the Savior but he’s not and then fall into the darkside while Geshulin (even his fanthom) is the one who courage Jiyan to push his limit as a Commander General to stop the Threnodian (this is the reason why you shouldn’t skip dialogue) Geshulin even stated that “Are you gonna stay here waiting for Retroact Rain to stop just because of some panthom?” Indicating that he is pushing Jiyan to be brave and act like a Real General and set a side the emotions and feeling for the death of fallen soldier. So Geshulin desire is to stop the Lament while Scar and Phrolova keep reviving the Threnodian, Overthrax and take advantage of the Lament to push their agenda.
Good summary. One area i'd say differently is your comparisons. Geshulin is more like Kawaki over Boruto. Bc Kawaki is so obsessed with killing the Ootsuki that he is willing to toss away every bond he has to acheive that goal. He is even crazy enough to off himself in the end bc he is also technically part Ootsuki. In that, it is similar to Geshulin's hate towards TD's. Bc Geshulin is also willing to sacrifice anything in order to kill them all. Both are consumed & blinded by their hate.
Scar is probably closer to Code. In the way Code worships the Ootsuki & wants them to reign supreme, Scar also wants to create a world where the Lament happens & TD's are on top. The similarities stop there though as Code is more like a serious & religious zealot & Scar is more like a crazy & happy lover of chaos.
@@danielw.2456 Oh yeah, that’s one way to go too, i only input Boruto characteristics to Geshulin because he is hatred by friend and sees him as a villain while Boruto is so focused to his objective but yea, that’s also correct too, i forgot that. Yea he is more like Kawaki because of how driven his goal to get rid the enemy and he will not waver eventho it’ll cost the life of his friend and family. Also Scar i think more like Madara coz both of them want to change the world into their own selfish desire, anyway thanks for correction i might edit my comment so it’ll not create confusion.
@@yayu414 Anytime! & i can see the Scar & Madara comparison too. Good point.
@@danielw.2456 I think its pretty apparent that Scar and rest of the Fracsidus don't want "TDs on top", they want to live together with them, to the point where the Lament just becomes part of life. And to do that you pretty much have to overthrow all authority and implant TD tissue into all living humans, since those who survive the procedure, like the Fracsidus members - are no longer attacked by TDs, they're recognized as their own by the TDs.
It's all about joining together with someone you can't beat and learning to live with them. TDs aren't "evil" per se, they just instinctively seek to merge with anyone whose frequencies aren't discordant like theirs.
Firstly tacet marks aren’t different for everyone and around the time geshu Lin was the general scar already existed, and there is no way Kuro would just throw away geshu Lin like that and make them into one cause kuro gotta get that bag 💰 Yk?
I mean pretty much every playable characters have different echo marks whether it's the location or the size(and if you look at both Scar and Geshu, they are almost identical in location and size).How did you know Scar existed back then because all information about Geshu Lin was from the past when Jiyan was just a normal soldier and there was no info regarding Scar in that preview too. And second they can still release multiple version of same characters like in PGR and other hoyoverse games(they don't have to go with the Genshin route with One character gets one version of them in game).
Although it's the most absurd theory but somehow makes sense(at least to me😂😂)
From what source can you say that Scar already existed?? Or as Geshu Lin? 💀💀
@@alan_naive1322scar already existed because scar was talking in the village with the girl while geshu lin was general lol
Their tacet mark are not even placed the same...Whoever thought of this bs is delusional. They don't even have an ounce of similarity in their personalites
@anyaforgors it's called going crazy my dude
Tacet mark placement is not unique to a person
Also doesn’t look like mechanical arm
Their faces look different from each other
Tbh this would be a massive L if this is true.
I don't think Geshulin is Scar because their eye shapes look different. Even though they both have tacet marks on their necks, if you look closer the marks are different. Geshu has more star diamond shapes while Scar's are thicker and have more waves
If tacets marks cannot be on the same place on different resonators than either Scar is either a shadow or mirror of Geshulin but definitely not him
This theory has so many holes it's almost funny 😂
that person got no content to do that day 😂
Can u name some, im literally unable to think of any holes in this theory, Im interested 👀👀
@ambearyyeet Geshu is literally based on an existing character. same thing with Scar.
Plus, tacet mark have limited placement design wise.
Both Jiyan and Jinshi had theirs on their back. it doesn't mean they're the same person for that yk
@@Heshu-i2t yes, jiyan and Jinhsi have it on the same place, but they have different shapes still. Jiyan's covers almost all of his back, meanwhile Jinhsi's is smaller, like most of the other characters. Jiyan's is a different shape. Scar and Geshu Lin have the exact same tacet mark, no differences in size or placement. So I kinda fail to see your point :/
@@ambearyyeet girl if you're gonna strike back then try harder
I feel attacked with this one
Since im saving for scar and gasoline
Now you get a two at the cost of one bundle. What a bargain!!
GASOLINE???? 😭
I want geshu lin🔥
He can Geshu my Lin...
👁👄👁
@@AzA609 Dude seriously what are u?😅
@@zeeshanhussain6891
I am him. 😎
@@AzA609 ooo I thought u are something else sorry for that
Please no, Geshulin is this badass Swordsman general who is honed in combat, commanded an army and is charismatic.
Then theres scar, probably a drug abused junkie who talks like a mental patient, fist fights and throws damn cards like he on sun crack
come to think of it, they do look alike.. holy crap... anyways, imma pulling for Geshu lin no matter what xD
What if scar/geshulin are multi element able to switch havoc and fusion? That would be a must have character.
Your points are valid but i would prefer to play them separately
geshulin has a small cut mark on his lips, which scar dont have. A new cut can appear But the old cut wont disappear .
I doubt they are same person, maybe they are brothers and after lin vanished scar decided to go down a different path.
Not this theory again 😂
Chronologically it doesnt make sense, not only that both characters are anticipated, Kuro is not going to waste them like that 😅
I feel like this dude gonna be released at version 2.0 and I hope his Resonance Skill/Liberation is "Voice" related
O. M. G. My two favourite characters... are actually THE SAME CHARACTER!? 🤯
Goddammit! Now I wish I could do the black lamb story again!! 😫 I am not about to make a WHOLE NEW ACCOUNT, just to do a quest... yet..
About the tacet mark they can share jinshi & jiyan both of their marks are on their back, not to mention that scar uses cards and we saw that while genshu uses claymore and we saw that in jiyans trailer
Ain't no way I've been loving the 2 same ppl in the same game
I like the theory! it was also nice to hear someone elses veiw of some of the overal lore in the game.. sense im still not too familer with it
weakest idea ever ...
the voice is already proving them to be different people and more importantly Sanhua *who see's people's resonance* saw Scar and didn't recognized Geshu Lin
tell that redditor to never cook again please!
Geshu Lin has yellow/golden eyes, not grayish. But also Scar is seen to be more interested in a character’s thoughts than Geshu lin is
To me I think this theory is false since they look totally different and isn't geshulin dead? Also if scar and geshulin were the same person then kuro would lose lots of money since geshulin is a very anticipated character
bruh the story never said he died, just missing
@@Morax024 fr the skip button is showing
Scar is Geshulin.. but release them as DIFFERENT characters with diff elements.. Scar as Fire, Geshulin as Havoc.. both 5 stars!!!
That's it you're my favorite Wuthering waves leaker
still prefer Scar over Geshu. although this theory is quite interesting.
let's wait and see what Kuro is planning for the future.
meanwhile, Camellya might be released earlier than Scar so i'll pull her for now. :3
Noticed this for a long time now. And finally some talks about it
Two must pulls in one?
Humans have only so many places where you can have a tacet mark. So two out of maybe millions is not that groundbreaking 😅
And since Scar and Geshu Lin are both very very awaited and would potentially make a lot of people pull for both banners… = profits… it’s very unlikely Kuro would pull a Firefly and delete one whole character by making it just an mecha outfit. Or in this case an earlier version.
if geshu is scar then, it make sense why scar entered jinzhou city 2 times no sweat😅
I like the theory very much but i want them both not one
If scar is geshu im rolling for scar
Idk why but Cronwless could also be a character/human. Scar's iddle animation or when he "holds" his head crownless do the same could he be idk... ? geshulin? Crownless uses a spear and a "claymore", like jiyan does so idk... im just yapping maybe xD
Very good théorie ! I think this sirinswish guy is the one who deserve your lunites give away !!!
I was going to skip their weapons but if this goes according to the leaks then I don't have to worry about pulling them both.
I dont think people get what youre saying. Scar is geshu lin after he went and did the thing. Making Jiyan general just before. We might get a version of geshu lin if we can "unscarify" him somehow. These arguments really cant be ignored. There are similarities. They could be brothers. (The arm not counting In this theory.)
Im inclined to believe this theory. But also id really like both
SO was I the only one who immediately thought that those 2 were the same person?
I mean the white hair and the statement of being wronged or betrayed, as well as both being a little nuts, one more than the other. To be fair 2 characters being similar yet being totally different people does happen, so honestly Koru can decide to go either way, depending on what story they want to tell, or just simply from the fact that I know most people will want to get both in the game
I KNEW FROM BEGINING WHEN I SAW THEIR RESONANCE MARO
thank you for talking about it. i started wondering about them being the same person ever since i saw them th first time. i don't know if this makes sense, but in my mind it does
I am waiting patiently for them both cuz I like them both but Nah , I don't want this to be true I want them seperately but if I get to choose just one it will definitely be the fallen general
geshu lin has a scar on his mouth while scar doesnt. Maybe the plot twist is that they are twins, but it is almost impossible that they are the same person
love this theory. I'd like to see how Scar came into being.
Doesn't geshu lin have a scar on his lip? Scar doesn't have that same scar in his lip
I need them to be separate characters
Wait, I don't think Scar's arm is mechanical? Where was it told or clearly shown?
Upd. I mean it looks simply as his costume and he wears gloves so can't tell if it's really mechanical. I suppose it's just costume design
No offence, but this theory is so ass and makes no sense to me.
Great video!!! Waiting for more content
Jiyan and jinshi the same person too i just know that
Huge hopium for that to be true
I really really would hate that
I want my greatsword boi. If this is true and it makes it so that we wont have geshu lin with his greatsword i will be sorely dissapointed
#oot guys is it true that wuthering waves income rate was decreased by zzz? If it's true where can i check it
When will the character Geshulin be released?
That theory came up in my mind a few days ago. But I‘m not sure if I would like this to be true or not 😅
We're already at 4k where's my lunite for my "BAD COMMENT"
I've already chosen winners which I'll be displaying in next video! That is today
So... was this purely just a theory or also a leak? Cause I really don't like any kind of story leaks
tem tudo pra ser verdade, mas quero que seja mentira, só pra eu poder jogar com o geshulin do jeito que ele apareceu nos flashbacks
lamp and goat are defferent animals 🫡he is sheep not he-goat so stop simping over some lowlife enemies those with an unknown past
chill stop this shit better not happen bro i want geshu lin not fucking scar its waste to not make him playable
Ge shu is pronounced as (gerr- shoe)
Good to know 😊
nah geshu lin too buff and scar is slim build
They could also be siblings 🤔
Bro trying compare gas with patroleum coz both can be lighted firw.
This theory makes sense
i want both 😭🤧 i have to pull double time i am fp2 how am i suppose to do this
Gimme geshulin
Is scar and geshu lin playable?
In future yes (geshulin is playable according to his record)
No way scar is geshulin…😮😮
Scar --> ghesulin maybe he traveling to thailand and make surgery become keypop.. 😄
Good job kuro many people already curious obout the story.. thts the point kuro money always coming when they are greedy.. thirsty
Hope kuro doesnt read it😂
Oh my...
Imposible😮
not even close
wow if this is real...wow awful🤔
Cap
Gay shoe Lin :)
Ain't no way lol
First🎉