The Truth About the Nakba by Benny Morris

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  • Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
  • The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, also known as the War of Independence by Israelis and the Nakba (Catastrophe) by Palestinians, was a pivotal and complex conflict that resulted in the establishment of the state of Israel and had lasting repercussions for the entire Middle East. The war began following the end of British Mandate in Palestine and the United Nations' partition plan, which proposed dividing Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states.
    Quillette's community manager, Zoe Booth, reads Benny Morris' essay. You can read it here: quillette.com/2024/02/27/the-...
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  • @warrenalexander5285
    @warrenalexander5285 Месяц назад +675

    Zuheir Mohsen, a then senior leader of the PLO said in 1977: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means of continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity."

    • @Madmen604
      @Madmen604 Месяц назад +22

      Great find!!!

    • @dagwould
      @dagwould Месяц назад +15

      Tx for the quote. I've heard it elsewhere and on good authority (clip of a Newspaper article of the time), but have no attribution for it (publication, I mean), does any one have such?

    • @user-li9ns6hg9m
      @user-li9ns6hg9m Месяц назад +5

      is it egip syria jordab iraq libia tunic algeria truthly "arab state

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 Месяц назад +79

      @@dagwould "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
      For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
      ~ Zahir Muhsein, PLO Executive Committee Member
      Source: Dutch Newspaper Trouw, 1977

    • @Madmen604
      @Madmen604 Месяц назад

      @@user-li9ns6hg9m I think so.

  • @rsr789
    @rsr789 Месяц назад +1246

    Nakba = "We tried to kill you. We failed. We are the victims".

    • @E4_MAFIA
      @E4_MAFIA Месяц назад +62

      THIS.

    • @mancunianmartin558
      @mancunianmartin558 Месяц назад +98

      Let me help you with the equation.
      Nakba = We fabricated a myth. It never happened, yet we continue to weaponise it. We are still victims. Our ancestors will continue in a cycle of victimhood.

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 Месяц назад +1

      @@mancunianmartin558 Fair, but mine does include the demonstrable fact that they tired to kill all of the Jews.

    • @manipulatorism
      @manipulatorism Месяц назад

      Let me help you with this
      The Nakba did happen but the Israelis lied about it and deceived the world.
      A common trend
      Lies and deceivers
      There fixed it for you
      Your welcome

    • @MyLateralThawts
      @MyLateralThawts Месяц назад +83

      @@manipulatorismWithout lies, Islam dies! The Koran does not include the Ten Commandments, including “Thou shalt not lie” but does encourage lying, otherwise known as “Taqiyya”, by following Mohammad’s example. In that sense, you would make a good muslim.

  • @TruthSeekerAll
    @TruthSeekerAll Месяц назад +195

    It is telling that Zahir Muhse’in, member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Executive Committee, said the following in a 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Trouw. “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism.”

    • @laurameszaros9547
      @laurameszaros9547 Месяц назад +14

      Thank you for providing that source. I was wondering where it originated. It explains a good deal.

    • @mnbr6884
      @mnbr6884 Месяц назад

      The Palestinian people are as real as the Taiwanese people.

    • @arnoeeuwigheid4499
      @arnoeeuwigheid4499 Месяц назад +5

      As a "fellow subscriber of het Dagblad Trouw" I can only confirm that your statement is absolutely correct!!
      👋😃🇳🇱

    • @jbrd2959
      @jbrd2959 Месяц назад +10

      good reason to absolutely support Israel. What a sick strategy.

    • @R2d2..
      @R2d2.. Месяц назад +4

      Of course their identity was never real. They are liars.

  • @MikeSmith-yl5md
    @MikeSmith-yl5md Месяц назад +248

    This needs to be put in the New York Times as a rebuttal to this misleading article

    • @tristan7216
      @tristan7216 Месяц назад +29

      Article was not accidentally misleading, it was propaganda. The lies are the point for them.

    • @larouiabdelaziz3865
      @larouiabdelaziz3865 Месяц назад

      Give her another warm and spicy soup from aipak and you will experience propaganda and fabricated stories that you never heard in you life. Lies lies lies that all what they breed.

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 Месяц назад +12

      More people will watch this RUclips video, than people read the NY Times article.

    • @IstandwithIsrael236
      @IstandwithIsrael236 17 дней назад

      NYT the other wrote a whole article about 50+ years of "ISRAELI "SETTLER" terrorism" and how the Israeli government is complicit in anti-Palestinian terrorism like tf

  • @paullegend6798
    @paullegend6798 Месяц назад +280

    Great piece. Not many people want to hear the truth. Well done for standing up.

    • @user-ef9eq8dk4i
      @user-ef9eq8dk4i Месяц назад

      That zionists came to set up an ethnostate at the expense of the local population, which we expected to be totally cool with that? It's a recipe for perpetual conflict. Look at Northern Ireland. Scottish and Engligh protestant came to conquer and rule over the native Irish. They still have not been reconciled over 400 years later.

    • @davidarchibald50
      @davidarchibald50 Месяц назад +3

      Yeah pity its not the truth then.

    • @paullegend6798
      @paullegend6798 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@davidarchibald50 Which part(s) do you not believe is the truth?

    • @jafa101
      @jafa101 Месяц назад +9

      It's not "his" truth. Nothing you can do to change his mind.

    • @chuletaization
      @chuletaization Месяц назад

      Not great and not truthful. Nobody ever claimed Arabs sat around peacefully as their land, homes, farms, villages, towns were taken over by Jewish refugees from Europe. They fought back. Why wouldn't they? Zionists cynically used Arab resistance to justify ever more repression and ever more seizures creating ever more resistance and here we are.

  • @BeaconOfHope1948
    @BeaconOfHope1948 Месяц назад +329

    They lost their war and their attempted invasion. Went on to rename it something stupid and pretend to be victims. Am Yisrael Chai Forever 🎗️

    • @FelipeCoelhoGuitar
      @FelipeCoelhoGuitar Месяц назад +12

      Yeah Palestinians did loose the war against the invaders. I guess that makes the colonizers right!

    • @janettedewar6617
      @janettedewar6617 Месяц назад +7

      @@FelipeCoelhoGuitar loose?

    • @ShamoaKrasieski-xm4ze
      @ShamoaKrasieski-xm4ze Месяц назад

      @@FelipeCoelhoGuitar Invaders? Generations of Jews have been living on that land for longer than even Islam has existed as a religion. Jews had as much right, if not more, to set up a nation for themselves after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire. I don't know why the Islamic Arab peoples who were living there at the time couldn't just become cohabitants. Actually, I do know why they couldn't, because of their supremacist religious beliefs that Jews must be a suppressed minority under Islam, not equals.

    • @BeaconOfHope1948
      @BeaconOfHope1948 Месяц назад +42

      @@FelipeCoelhoGuitar actually Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, etc. etc. but you don't know history and try to invent history. Dig a hole anywhere in Israel and you will find our rich history that predates Islam. Am Yisrael Chai Forever 🎗️

    • @thomasmick7875
      @thomasmick7875 Месяц назад +1

      They must be democrats...

  • @davypatt1
    @davypatt1 Месяц назад +59

    The British Mandate of Palestine 1918 was created as a homeland for the Jewish people returning to their ancestral home after 2000 years in exile.
    There is no Arab tribe called Palestinians, they don't even have the letter P in their Alphabet.
    Peleshtim is a Hebrew word, it was from David calling Goliath an enemy intruder ( Peleshtim )
    Now can you see their name.

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +11

      Palestina came from the Hebrew word. פולש. That mean invdar

    • @davypatt1
      @davypatt1 Месяц назад

      @@user-ru5qh8xn4v I can assure you it is Peleshtim, even shows up in Bible codes. פלשח'מ

    • @davypatt1
      @davypatt1 Месяц назад

      @@user-ru5qh8xn4v Could be plural of the same word

    • @SinNombreBiH
      @SinNombreBiH Месяц назад +2

      Explain me why isn't it allowed to make a DNA test in Israel? You would be punished while doing it, even with prison.

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +3

      You can see also that the flag where writhe palestina AI have star of David and the colar is in white and blue and not red green and black.

  • @onlylexus
    @onlylexus Месяц назад +6

    Nakba = We the majority were offered a great deal of land, we refused to accept this great deal and joined together with other pals to make war against you, we failed and you won and took a bit more land, we are therefore the victims! What!

  • @user-ok2fe6vv4e
    @user-ok2fe6vv4e Месяц назад +63

    so true. palastinians and their supporters will have you believe that they were just sitting in their villages and watchingthe sheep when the tanks came. the truth is that teh tanks came but only from the syrian and egyptian side, and they told the locals to either join up or run away. they mostly chose to fight, as they also have before the 1947 un resolution, or the 1948 invasion of the arab armies. of course tehy did not consider themselves to be "palastinins" back then, and had tibal ties in mostly egypt. then after they waged war wiith superior forces and very brutal battles, where they had no ualms abot killing prisoners or attacking jewish civilians they were pushed back. ever since they have done all in their power to go against israel , they refuse peace, and always will. trusting them in the 1990s was a mistake, but we all know better now.

    • @Madmen604
      @Madmen604 Месяц назад +3

      I can only imagine how terribly disturbing this all is for Israelis and for most Jews in the world. I'm not a Jew, but Oct 7th just guts me. I feel so ashamed as a Canadian of our tepid official responses. It's true we are in the field with you, such as it is. So am glad for that. But I don't see how the NATO , democratic countries can remain on the sidelines militarily, for much longer.
      Just so you know, there are millions of Canadians across the political spectrum who support Israel's right to existence and our alliance with you. Not much comfort I suppose. But I sense a backlash coming against these hostile and ignorant protests and against your fanatical Arab/ Islamic enemies. I'm so sorry for what you're enduring.

    • @user-ok2fe6vv4e
      @user-ok2fe6vv4e Месяц назад

      @@Madmen604 we'll see ho wit goes with elections.... you can also reach out to MPS that represent you or city council members to increase enforcement measures. i hear Toronto in particular is awash with pro hamas bastards...

  • @Linoy-tm8no
    @Linoy-tm8no Месяц назад +179

    Great video ❤
    In my case, my Jewish grandparents were originally from Iraq but had to flee, with the main turning point being the Farhud pogrom in 1941.

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +31

      In 1941 in irak was the Farhud. Pogrom that Arabs slaughtered jews. Also in marocco in 1912 was the Trital in the city of fez were Arabs also slaughtered jews. And also in 1948 in marocco in the city of ojda Arabs slaughtered jees

    • @larryjacob6986
      @larryjacob6986 Месяц назад +27

      My grandparents left Iraq in the early 1900s because of anti-Jewish pogroms.

    • @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
      @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak Месяц назад

      @larryjacob6986 and the Arabs stole jewish homes and bank accounts....

    • @Joe-pc3hs
      @Joe-pc3hs Месяц назад +6

      @@larryjacob6986 They recovered Torah scrolls and other Judaica from Iraq during the US invasion. Oddly enough, I got to relax by a river at a compund in Al Hila, while listening to a cd I bought from a local. The song was "By the rivers of Babylon" by Boney M. Didnt realize the significance til after I came home.

    • @larryjacob6986
      @larryjacob6986 Месяц назад +12

      @@Joe-pc3hs Coincidentally, Jews of Iraqi ancestry sing "By the rivers of Babylon ..." (Psalm 137) in a mournful tune for the week before "Tish'a B'av" (the 9th day of the month of Av), in commemoration of the destruction of the Holy Temples in Jerusalem that (both) occurred on that date (in 586 BCE and 70 AD).
      Interesting that in my synagogue (in Israel), there is a worshipper who emigrated from Hila Iraq. (He wrote a book about the former Jewish community there.)
      *Kudos to you for your courage and dedicated service in Iraq.*

  • @JosephB-tv7gf
    @JosephB-tv7gf Месяц назад +166

    Well said!
    "..having no agency..". Indeed, we are meant to think they are infants and victims, entirely without free will. No. They decided to do Oct 7, nobody else. It was their atrocity alone. And celebrated and excused as soon as it happened. This again was purposeful and fully intentional.

    • @shaunboots4075
      @shaunboots4075 Месяц назад +6

      Who's that now? I thought hchkchmas did the 7th.. surely you cant mean all Palestinians.. cos that would be racist

    • @user-cm4lo8ek9u
      @user-cm4lo8ek9u Месяц назад

      yeah it started on the 7th 1. Haifa Massacre 1937
      2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
      3. Haifa Massacre 1938
      4. Balad al-Shaykh Massacre 1939
      5. Haifa Massacre 1939
      6. Haifa Massacre 1947
      7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
      8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
      9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
      10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
      11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
      12. Jaffa Massacre 1948
      13. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
      14. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
      15. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
      16. Al-Aqsa
      Massacre 1990
      17. Ibrahimi 1. Haifa Massacre 1937
      2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
      3. Haifa Massacre 1938
      4. Balad al-Shaykh Massacre 1939
      5. Haifa Massacre 1939
      6. Haifa Massacre 1947
      7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
      8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
      9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
      10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
      11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
      12. Jaffa Massacre 1948
      13. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
      14. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
      15. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
      16. Al-Aqsa
      Massacre 1990
      17. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
      18. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
      19. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
      20. Gaza Massacre 2012
      21. Gaza Massacre 2014
      22. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
      23. Gaza Massacre 2021
      24. Gaza Genocide 2023/24 of
      still ongoing.Mosque Massacre 1994
      18. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
      19. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
      20. Gaza Massacre 2012
      21. Gaza Massacre 2014
      22. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
      23. Gaza Massacre 2021
      24. Gaza Genocide 2023/24 of
      still ongoing.

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 Месяц назад

      The expulsions of the Indigenous population by the Zionists was also purposeful and intentional. As was Netanyahu's support for Hamas.

    • @rosemariehaverkamp3774
      @rosemariehaverkamp3774 Месяц назад

      They did celebrate, sharing sweets on the streets. Nobody forced them​@@shaunboots4075

    • @yossefsidi5605
      @yossefsidi5605 Месяц назад

      Ofcurse its hams.. and pro hams lots and lots of 'palestinians'..ofcurse not all of them cause then its only being racist ​@@shaunboots4075

  • @Andre99328
    @Andre99328 Месяц назад +107

    Thank you for this great video! I grew up with all the Pro-Palestine propaganda, supported by left wing, and I had heated discussions with my friends in the 1980s. I was the only one in this group who tried to argue with the facts stated in this video (I was not aware of all of them) while my friends passionately supported Palestine, because it was 'the duty of all young left or liberal people'. My friends admitted many years later that they belived I was a Nazi, because I supported Isreal. Although we were young and a bit naive back than it pained me to hear that.

    • @AndMakrid
      @AndMakrid Месяц назад

      More pro-Palestine propaganda, this time from Israelis.
      ruclips.net/video/ExkOxmMMwSM/видео.html

    • @janettedewar6617
      @janettedewar6617 Месяц назад +11

      Well done you were much more enlightened than your friends.

    • @ruthietaylor8756
      @ruthietaylor8756 Месяц назад +4

      Bless you

    • @CJinsoo
      @CJinsoo Месяц назад

      wow. twisted lies, propaganda, and gaslighting of the left and palestinians. I suppose they will soon argue that Hitler was a Zionist and jewish, so it really was whatever that idiot Whoopi said.

    • @JCaesar11
      @JCaesar11 Месяц назад +9

      Your friends were ill informed, have similar heated disagreements with many of my friends about this issue..I’m struck by the level of disinformation and misinformation that permeates the topic. This video is an excellent factual take on the history of the region.

  • @luisdotgarcia
    @luisdotgarcia Месяц назад +113

    Palestinians didn’t exist during the Partition Plan they appear in 1967.
    It was the Arab League that refused the Partition Plan.
    But the entire Land was already the Jewish State from the 1922 San Remo Conference where the Arab Delegation stated that Palestine was the Jewish Homeland and just wanted what’s now Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.
    The Jewish Delegation agreed.
    The League of Nations and the British Mandate followed the San Remo Conference.

    • @miraladak2314
      @miraladak2314 Месяц назад +8

      It doesn't matter what you decide to call them, they were the indigenous population of the land, it wasn't the right of the colonial power to give it away

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +10

      Correct, see the agreement between Faisal and Weizmann from January 1919 in the Paris peace conference. The Arabs want big Arabs state in the area that today syria jordan and irak. Only when the Arabs learned about the secret agreement between britain and france called sies picot agreement that syria given to france, only then they started to develop new identity separated from the syrian and the Jordanians. But the Arabs palestinian are the same people like the syria and the Jordanians. Before israel establishment they called themselves Arabs not palestinian.

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 Месяц назад +1

      @@miraladak2314 No, they aren't, JEWS ARE! 'Palestinians' aren't a people, they are a political group akin to the Nazis. And they aren't from Israel, they are Arabs, which come from, WAIT FOR IT... The Arabian Peninsula!

    • @luisdotgarcia
      @luisdotgarcia Месяц назад +24

      @@miraladak2314
      If they’re the Indigenous why is their Religion, Culture and Language Native to Arabia not Palestine.
      Have you noticed that the major Cities in Palestine have Canaanite/Hebrew Names?

    • @larryjacob6986
      @larryjacob6986 Месяц назад +19

      @@miraladak2314 Israel is _not_ a colonial power. They came back to their ancestral homeland. When, throughout history, was there _ever_ a State of Palestine? When the invading Romans proclaimed "Judea capta" [Judea (Southern part of Israel) is captured] they renamed the land "Palestina". Palestine was always a geographical region ruled by foreign powers.
      But there *was* an Israel in ancient times. It's back and here to stay.

  • @cheshbon2
    @cheshbon2 Месяц назад +221

    A very partial list of massacres by Arabs against Jews:
    Safed massacre 1834
    Battle of Tel Hai 1920.
    Palestine riots of 1929.
    Tiberias pogrom 1938.
    Haifa Oil Refinery massacre 1947.
    Convoy of 35 massacre 1948.
    Ben Yehuda Street bombing 1948.
    Jewish Agency bombing 1948.
    Hadassah medical convoy massacre 1948.
    Kfar Etzion massacre 1948.
    Ma'ale Akrabim massacre 1954.
    Avivim school bus massacre 1970.
    Lod Airport massacre 1972.
    Kiryat Shmona massacre 1974.
    Ma'alot massacre 1974.
    Zion Square massacre 1975.
    Coastal Road massacre 1978.
    Dizengoff Street bus bombing 1994.
    Beit Lid massacre 1995.
    Sbarro restaurant massacre 2001.
    Dolphinarium discotheque massacre 2001.
    Hebrew University bombing 2002.
    Bat Mitzvah massacre 2002.
    Yeshivat Beit Yisrael massacre 2002.
    Café Moment bombing 2002.
    Passover massacre 2002.
    Kiryat Menachem massacre 2002.
    Shmuel HaNavi bus bombing 2002.
    Maxim restaurant bombing 2003.
    Mercaz HaRav massacre 2008.
    Jerusalem bulldozer attack 2008.
    Jerusalem synagogue massacre 2014.
    Tel Aviv shooting 2016.
    Beersheba attack 2022.
    Bnei Brak shootings 2022.
    october 7 massacre 2023.

    • @pongang3357
      @pongang3357 Месяц назад +16

      This the list of lies.

    • @cheshbon2
      @cheshbon2 Месяц назад +1

      @@pongang3357 You can do a search on each of the massacres listed here and read how many Jews the Arabs murdered.

    • @nssr4031
      @nssr4031 Месяц назад +15

      Using your definition of massacre, the Palestinians suffer 100s of massacres a year.

    • @davidmansoor1364
      @davidmansoor1364 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@pongang3357like you would know, peasant.

    • @davidmansoor1364
      @davidmansoor1364 Месяц назад +14

      @@nssr4031 eye for an eye.

  • @laurameszaros9547
    @laurameszaros9547 Месяц назад +20

    Great piece, thank you. We need knowledgeable scholars, armed with facts and nuance, such as Benny Morris, more than we ever have done before.

  • @Lion_ofJudah
    @Lion_ofJudah Месяц назад +42

    What many people dont know and it is not mentioned is that the British Mandate of Palestine land did include what is today Jordan that was created in 1947 1 year before Israel and Jordan got 70-75% of the former Palestine land while Israel got what was left, about 25% but some arabs didnt agree and they wanted all former Palestine to be arab land and this goes on till today.

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +12

      It true palestina included jordan and britain gave the eastern part of palestina to the Hashemite family from Saudi arabia for they help in first world war. 70% of Jordanians are palestinian.

    • @moveurfeet
      @moveurfeet Месяц назад +4

      Yes, and any fair peace negociation must include this. And the jewish refugees from Muslim countries. (not only the Palestinians that suffered the Nakba).

  • @joeschultz74
    @joeschultz74 Месяц назад +39

    Thank you for your journalism. We need to include that Islam viewed Jews as Dhimmi, second class citizens forbidden from defending themselves and restricted property rights. That Adriaan Reland record that in 1699 most settlements were Jewish or Christian and that the only permanent Islamic inhabitants he found were 100 souls in Nablus. When we put these two facts together of second class citizens, and of having an ethnic majority in 1699 beer with a small population and expanded to all Islamic lands in the former caliphate, we see a much deeper picture. Jews live throughout Islamic lands and we’re persecuted a second class citizens throat Islamic lands, and were systemically prevented from creating a critical mass of people in their homeland, where they always lived. So today the argument is because we prevented youfrom collaborating and protecting yourselves and owning land and having the right to self determination because you don’t have a historical record of that for the entire long time we rude you a second-class citizens we get to continue to roll your second class citizens because you’ve lost your right to it because we prevent you from having them. This is the Muslim argument.

    • @jonniiinferno9098
      @jonniiinferno9098 Месяц назад

      (find an fix your typos and grammatical errors) - otherwise - great comment

    • @R2d2..
      @R2d2.. Месяц назад +1

      And leftists and Muslims want Jews to live under those type of people💀
      Even when rulers of the Arab and Muslim world changed their laws.”, that doesn’t mean that the Quran did too.
      What people don’t understand about Islam is that Islam is not changeable. It is a timeless religion.
      Which is why Muslim countries are filled with hate and genocidal freaks, and genocidal history towards Jews and other minorities. And minorities in Muslim countries are known to be oppressed to suffer under those Stone Age colonizers.
      To expect Jews and other minorities to live under them and calling their non colonial indigenous nations “colonial” meanwhile muslim and Arab countries came into existence through oppression, wars and colonization is crazy.

  • @TheCompleteGuitarist
    @TheCompleteGuitarist Месяц назад +79

    I wish that I could take up arms and spend all day protesting the injustice that governments rain down on me and my family but I have to work to provide food and pay the bills just to survive.
    How is it that Gaza .... such a poor country, can spend all day plotting and scheming *and never go hungry?* I mean seriously, how is that all these people wander around all day wear masks and chanting slogans and plotting "revenge" and yet they never get hungry? ... it cannot be done ..... unless ....

    • @faza553
      @faza553 Месяц назад +4

      How to achieve relative self-governance?
      "To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction, noted, registered, counted,
      TAXED, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, reformed, corrected, punished, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so."
      Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (1809-1865)

    • @TheCompleteGuitarist
      @TheCompleteGuitarist Месяц назад +13

      @@faza553 It matters not if you are governed at every operation or not. One cannot spend all day warring without going hungry. Not satisfying that hunger leads to death by starvation. It is that simple. Protest and resistance needs to be funded.

    • @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
      @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak Месяц назад +1

      @TheCompleteGuitarist they got over 40 BILLION dollars in aid and chose to use it to build a terrorist camp instead of investing in infrastructure and industry for the gazan people. And at least 17 billion of that was pocketed by humus leaders...I guess they threw the scraps of what was leftover to feed themselves. Time to stop funding I slam terrorists completely.

    • @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
      @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak Месяц назад +6

      @@TheCompleteGuitarist a good point, very well made.

    • @tremolando6066
      @tremolando6066 Месяц назад +2

      Well, you might want to revise that observation in the light of current events. Have you seen the state of Gaza right now? Mass starvation is what is happening in that pile of rubble.

  • @KiwikimNZ
    @KiwikimNZ Месяц назад +30

    Thank you dear. You did an excellent job at discussing and backing up your argument. Thank you. Please continue to share this knowledge! ❤

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik4173 Месяц назад +99

    After the WW1 the Ottoman Empire collapsed and their territories south of Turkey were controlled by France and England. Both the Arabs and Jews were promised their own lands. The Arabs were given Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria, over 95% of the territory and the Jew were to get Israel

    • @ezeqruls
      @ezeqruls Месяц назад +4

      There is something wrong with your math. No matter how you slice it the Palestinians had to get out of the way for half a million colonizing European Jews migrating to the area in a twenty or so year period. The native population of Palestine was displaced from their homes and still being displaced today.

    • @matthewhuszarik4173
      @matthewhuszarik4173 Месяц назад +33

      @@ezeqruls No Palestinians were displaced from their homes unless they went to war against Israel. Then Israel has every right to take their homes and land as punishment. There are over two million Palestinians Arabs both Muslim and Christian who live peacefully in Israel who never had anything taken from them. Can you say the same thing for all the Jews of North Africa and the Middle East outside Israel? Most of the so called Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank are less Palestinian than the Jews from Europe are. During the British occupation Arabs came from all over the Middle East to Palestine to work for the British. Most the so called Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are descendants of these people and not any original inhabitants of Palestine. By the way all the ethnic Jews of Europe trace their ancestry back to the original twelve tribes of Jews from Palestine. Ethnic Jews ancestors are all from Palestine, of course most converted Jews are not.
      The Palestinians were offered the opportunity to live in Arab Muslim states Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria or they could have chosen to live peacefully in a Jewish state Israel as many hundreds of thousands of other did. They were even offered a two state solution where Israel would give up some of the territory promised them. They accepted none of the compromises and chose war instead. The second they chose war the forfeited any rights to land and territory in Israel or anywhere for that matter. The Germans didn’t get Kaliningrad or any of East Prussia back after initiating world war two they are now parts of Russia and Poland. When you choose war instead of peaceful negotiations and you lose you take what the victor gives you period. That is the way the world the always worked. Otherwise all of Palestine would still be part of the Ottoman Empire.

    • @nobbytang
      @nobbytang Месяц назад

      @@ezeqruls…your wrong ….the Zionist diaspora…or return to the promised land from east Europe and Russia started in 1882….thousands and thousands came over sea and the land route via Turkey …..Tel Aviv was just a barren beach in 1910 but the Jews built and grew ….Hitlers legacy ( if he had one ) was that in 1945 at the end of the 2nd world war the survivors from the death camp wanted a safe haven ….and decided to follow earlier examples and return to Zion …..

    • @Sheikh_Yerbouti
      @Sheikh_Yerbouti Месяц назад

      @@ezeqruls you really need to lay off the Kool aid and read a book. You obviously don't know what diaspora, exile, decolonisation or indigenous means.

    • @davidwhite2949
      @davidwhite2949 Месяц назад +6

      Thank you for setting the record straight!

  • @cl9615
    @cl9615 Месяц назад +103

    Great video. This topic has become one where anyone can give their opinion and no one pushes back on falsehoods.

    • @Itsstuff7328
      @Itsstuff7328 Месяц назад +13

      I do. Regularly. But then people point to publications like the NY Times and have more faith in the publication than just some rando who likes history and accuracy

    • @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
      @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak Месяц назад +16

      I do, quite often but it's like talking to a brick most of the time. Supporters of hamas et al prefer to stick to information made up on tiktok! I swear if we had a time machine and took them back to the actual events in front of their eyes, they'd still try to deny it 😄

    • @richardbluett958
      @richardbluett958 Месяц назад

      @@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak The same way they deny the Holocaust, they are taught lies but never look for the truth.

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 Месяц назад +2

      Falsehoods like "a land without a people, for a people without a land"?

    • @parkforest434
      @parkforest434 Месяц назад

      Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.

  • @chuongnguyen5724
    @chuongnguyen5724 Месяц назад +15

    This is a wonderful read, Zoe! Benny's a top-notch scholar!

  • @Macumber773
    @Macumber773 Месяц назад +70

    Benny Morris is my favorite cuddly historian and you, Claire, and Douglas Murray are my favorite political people on the interwebs...

  • @chimbrazo5435
    @chimbrazo5435 Месяц назад +21

    this was very enlightening - thank you for posting

  • @kayjay7585
    @kayjay7585 Месяц назад +50

    It's impossible to make the actions of the so-called palestinian cause seem reasonable without distorting history and painting the arabs as having no agency and as if the arabs in 1947 british mandate of palestine were natives.
    Ever wonder why UNRWA defines the palestinian refugees as arabs in british palestine between 1946 and 1948? Because the majority were IMMIGRANTS just like most zionists. Yes, some native arabs, like those of Deir Yassin, were displaced, but it's nothing compared to number of jews that were pogromed in arab lands and also not a single arab was displaced before 1948, wheras over a dozen jewish communities, some millernia old like in Hebron, were brutally wiped/driven out.

    • @paulamarsh1
      @paulamarsh1 Месяц назад +1

      This is correct. Some 750,000 Jews were ethnically cleansed from Morocco, Algeria, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Yemen. It has been calculated that these Jews left behind land and property some four times the size of the newly created Israel !

    • @RobinArchbot
      @RobinArchbot 9 дней назад

      That's simply not true. Palestinians are native and were displaced

    • @pitzkale
      @pitzkale День назад

      ​@@RobinArchbotnope. Jews were also Palestinian but had actual agency and wanted an independent state. Palestinians (a made up people formed in the 60's by our Soviet friends) have been and still are leeching on victimhood and hate.

  • @elena_007
    @elena_007 Месяц назад +46

    NYT is really rotten to the core.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W Месяц назад

      They basically always have been. They covered up the Soviet crimes against humanity for decades.

  • @user-sp1md5xu8j
    @user-sp1md5xu8j Месяц назад +333

    There never was such P state; the Romans changed the name of Israel to Palestina (with an 'a' at the end), but in reality, it was always the Land of Israel.

    • @andrulemon
      @andrulemon Месяц назад

      So the Romans just invested a name out of the blue? Also, wasn't it previously called Judea, not Israel?

    • @a_lucientes
      @a_lucientes Месяц назад +8

      Look up 'rothschild offer to buy palestine from ottoman sultan' They tried for many decades. Confusing and conflating post war membership of nations in the League of Nations and then the UN vs what _nations_ have existed historically ia juat silly. Theyre two different things and pretending the former are not somehow irrelevant or in this absurd case non existent is just ignorant.

    • @luisdotgarcia
      @luisdotgarcia Месяц назад +21

      The Greek word Palestina was first used be the Geeek Historian Herodotus in around 600 BC to label the Jewish Land that the Greek Philistines want to conquer in around the 1.200 BC.

    • @luisdotgarcia
      @luisdotgarcia Месяц назад

      @@a_lucientes
      Modern Israel is the Third Jewish State to exist in that Geographical Area.
      There was never an Arab State, a Muslim State or any other State there.

    • @user-sp1md5xu8j
      @user-sp1md5xu8j Месяц назад +39

      @@a_lucientes Apparently you didn't understand the sentence, so let me clarify in simpler words: the term 'Palestina' was given by the Romans, alongside this term in all writings and also on silver coins (and archaeology) it was always written 'Land of Israel.' The term 'Palestina was just a derogatory nickname to hurt and abuse the Jews, who are the true owners of the land of Israel forever.

  • @davidwhite2949
    @davidwhite2949 Месяц назад +6

    This should definitely be published in the New York Times as a counterargument.

  • @anzofire35
    @anzofire35 Месяц назад +30

    great perspective on this complex topic

    • @miraladak2314
      @miraladak2314 Месяц назад

      It is actually quite simple: the indigenous people of the land being continually ethnically cleansed, murdered and treated as less than human by the people who took over their land

  • @arnoeeuwigheid4499
    @arnoeeuwigheid4499 Месяц назад +16

    Didn't you notice that the Palestinian children always SMILE when they are interviewed and REPORT to the journalists what has happened to their families WITHOUT showing a SPARK of emotion...... or making a single mistake in their (prepared ?) text!!!😊

  • @touficfarah7075
    @touficfarah7075 Месяц назад +9

    Very well researched and documented

  • @user-bd7fj4mj7m
    @user-bd7fj4mj7m Месяц назад +19

    Very informative and eye opening

  • @shaulkramer7425
    @shaulkramer7425 Месяц назад +7

    THank you for this. Benny Morris needs more exposure.

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 Месяц назад +12

    When countries lose multiple Wars, they tend to lose territory.

  • @tonyfidler1669
    @tonyfidler1669 Месяц назад +14

    Very well compiled and presented. This highlights the fundamental problem of today’s world, facts do not matter.

  • @yairmichaeli
    @yairmichaeli Месяц назад +19

    Fascinating video!

  • @jbjoeychic
    @jbjoeychic Месяц назад +3

    A truth telling video
    A great video !

  • @Grappapappa
    @Grappapappa Месяц назад +7

    I didn't know Benny Morris is this young and beautiful!

  • @user-xi3wo6dz6m
    @user-xi3wo6dz6m Месяц назад +46

    Well done. Long live beautiful Israel 🇮🇱.

  • @kashrut18
    @kashrut18 Месяц назад +7

    A very good article.
    The “naqba” was indeed a catastrophe for the Arabs but not for the reasons most believe. The attacking Arab armies told the Arab residents of the new State of Israel to leave while they would liquidate the newly created Israel and then they could all return. Unfortunately, or fortunately for the Jews Israel won the war and the Arab armies were routed. Thus, they were unable to keep their promise. This is the catastrophe, the naqba that they talk about.

    • @AndMakrid
      @AndMakrid Месяц назад

      The Deir Yassin massacre wasn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the Israeli paramilitary.
      The assassination of Folke Bernadotte, the UN mediator for Peace in the Middle East, wasn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the Israeli paramilitary.
      The ethnic cleansing of Israel isn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the "Jewish" settlers.
      The assassination of Rachel Corrie who was smashed under a buldozzer while defending a Palestinian village with her own body, wasn't portrayed by the Arabs but by the IDF.
      The attacks against the Armenian Patriarchate which happen right now in East Jerusalem in order to make East Jerusalem a predominaly Jewish city, aren't portrayed by the Arabs but by armed settlers with the help of the Israeli police.
      The Naqba never ended.
      "Remember Amalek" said Mr. Netanyahu. We all know what happened to the Amalek.

    • @AdelidaZela7487
      @AdelidaZela7487 Месяц назад

      @@AndMakrid you're a very good narc! 🤣😂🤣

    • @1brewski2
      @1brewski2 Месяц назад

      And where does it say that people fleeing fighting can't return to their homes once the fighting is over? Even if the "their leaders told them to flee" story is doubtful at best? BS doesn't take sides in this debate. Plenty of it to go around.

    • @kashrut18
      @kashrut18 Месяц назад +1

      @@1brewski2 No, story is true. You don’t want to accept it.
      If people want to accept the new status quo they would be free to return. Problem with the Arabs is they never were prepared to accept the new status quo. Always believing that they could, at some future time steal the land back.

    • @kashrut18
      @kashrut18 Месяц назад +2

      @@1brewski2 I think you missed the point, it was the Arab leaders who told them they could return. They didn’t want to return to the new state of Israel, the first legitimate nation state in the land for over 1900 years.

  • @irakotlik
    @irakotlik Месяц назад +5

    Thank you for bringing this to light.
    Islam is not religion of peace and it is extremely important to hold this mirror and speak up the truth behind the movement that for decades oppresses Palestinian people from inside.

  • @chrissi3193
    @chrissi3193 Месяц назад +11

    Important, concise and utterly correct.
    Well done, thank you

  • @Femmeaesthetic
    @Femmeaesthetic Месяц назад +6

    I watched clips of this American man I believe who has a content on RUclips asking Palestinians/Israelis questions. I watched few of his videos & it’s very clear that most Palestinians don’t want to accept Israel as a state even if they had 20% of the land back then, for 70 years palestinians have been told by there families that there native to the whole region but aren’t aware Jews have been living in that region for centuries, in fact were the first people to exist in that region

    • @SinNombreBiH
      @SinNombreBiH Месяц назад

      Thats not truth, there were Jews yes, but mostly it was populated by Arabs/Palestinians. If you are talking about the Israelis from the far past? They wasn't there first, there were other people and tribes before them, like the important ones, the Canaanites and the Israelis wiped them out. Genetically Palestinians have more native genes then the Israelis, thats why it's not allowed for a Isreali in Israel to do a DNA test, they get punished for doing it and they can even land in prison. That's not what i just say, thats what the zionist government says, search it up.

    • @glancetoleg
      @glancetoleg 8 дней назад

      He is Canadian I think.

  • @hagaiabeliovich4276
    @hagaiabeliovich4276 Месяц назад +35

    Your overview is missing two major issues. The necessity for partition in the first place was a direct result of the arab refusal to co-exist in one administrative framework. This motivated the riots of 1920, 1922 and 1929. A further important issue that you neglect is that the closure of Palestine to Jewish immigration in 1938 was a direct concession of the British to arab nationalism, as a result of the major arab revolt of 1936-38. This closure doomed European jews to destruction, leading to the establishment of militant Jewish organisations which attacked both the British as well as the arabs

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 Месяц назад +2

      Why should the indigenous Arabs cede land to European settler colonialists? Why should they be happy with a partition plan where they end up with less land than the minority Jewish population. And why must Palestinians pay the price for what Europeans did with their pogroms and the Holocaust?

    • @parkforest434
      @parkforest434 Месяц назад +1

      Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.

    • @liberality
      @liberality Месяц назад +18

      ​@@goldencalf5144 Indigenous Arabs all around the Mediterranean, I suppose. How do you think they got there except by settling new territory?

    • @amybelmont9254
      @amybelmont9254 Месяц назад +1

      @@goldencalf5144 Arabs are NOT indigenous to Judea, they came from the Arab peninsula. just how many states to the Arabs want??

    • @goldencalf5144
      @goldencalf5144 Месяц назад +1

      @@liberality Arabs have been around the Mediterranean and in the Levant for millenia. Anyway, what do you mean by Arabs? They aren't a monolith. The language of the Ancient Jews was Aramaic, which is derived from Arabic. And if you're talking about the Muslim conquests, they converted much of the local population to Islam rather than displacing them en masse.

  • @RicardoLopez-ub2hs
    @RicardoLopez-ub2hs Месяц назад +14

    In 1948 after Israel declared independence (end of british rule), Jordan army crossed the Jordan river into Judea & Samaria (known as the west bank by MSM) and east Jerusalem. The Jordan army killed or drove away the Jewish people. The Jordan army then destroyed Jewish property or took it over. Jordan then encouraged Jordanian settlement in the occupied land. Jewish property not destroyed became occupied by Jordanians. After the Israeli victory in 1967 and Jordnian disillusionment with their expansion effort (1988), Jordan revoked the Jordanian citizenship of "palestinians" in Judea & Samaria (known as the west bank by MSM) and east Jerusalem. For the most part "palestinians" are leftover Jordanian colonist (Gaza residents more closely tied to Egypt). The homeland of the majority of "palestinians" is Jordan.

  • @MrLegbiter
    @MrLegbiter Месяц назад +8

    Tell It Like It Is, Sister.

  • @urielpolak9949
    @urielpolak9949 Месяц назад +10

    Thank you

  • @jknowstheway1462
    @jknowstheway1462 Месяц назад +10

    This is 'Palestine': "We'd never heard of the word or 'ethnicity' prior to 1918" Said EVERY Arab EVER from 63AD to 1918.

    • @anthonymorris5084
      @anthonymorris5084 Месяц назад +6

      Palestinian wasn't even widely used until 1967. They became Jordanian citizens in 1948. Jordan lost the West Bank when they invaded Israel in 1967. In the Early 1970's they expelled them all. It was really Arafat that made the term popular.

    • @ef2718
      @ef2718 Месяц назад +2

      The process of appropriating the title Palestinians by Arabs has started in 1966.

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 Месяц назад +3

      "Palestine" has been an "area", but never a self-ruling country.

    • @jknowstheway1462
      @jknowstheway1462 Месяц назад

      @@billkallas1762 Who identified as Palestinian Pre-1918? (Hint I know the answer)

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 Месяц назад

      @@jknowstheway1462 Before the end of WWI, the Palestine area was OWNED by the Ottoman Empire. All people who lived there were citizens of the Empire.

  • @YB-ok1ny
    @YB-ok1ny Месяц назад +62

    It was never Arab land. Gaza people originally came from Egypt. The Muslims in Judea and Sameria are there because Jordan would not allow all of them entry to the designated Palestine. The Nakba is the MO of those who committed last year. They’ll never want a state because the leaders won’t be able to pocket the billions. The people have absolutely no say. They hate so much all they want to do is hate.
    That’s right how come the British are never mentioned in their part? What is still happening today. For those who don’t want to read, the Moses documentary is on Netflix and it’s a true story. Anyway, after what they did last year, there’s no cause or rights that they had ever again. They could’ve used protest to make their cause more known. What they did when far beyond hate. For instance I didn’t hate anybody till what happened last year and I know I could not do what they did. They are dangerous people and cannot be trusted or be friended ever ever again.

    • @miraladak2314
      @miraladak2314 Месяц назад +6

      Inventing "facts" to suit the narrative

    • @thinkagain1187
      @thinkagain1187 Месяц назад +5

      @@miraladak2314Why? What’s your facts?

    • @hennagaijin7856
      @hennagaijin7856 Месяц назад +1

      @@miraladak2314 The facts are this: The leadership of certainly Gaza (and probably the PA) have misused billions of dollars in international aid for the purpose of buying weapons and building tunnels. The facts of "YB-ok1ny" are facts and not a narrative. The entire world knows what you conveniently deny. And I tell you this: If the "Palestinian" leadership, and indeed that of the entire Arab world doesn't straighten up and get control of its own corruption (It won't happen!), Israel will never be beaten. You'll see!

    • @mancunianmartin558
      @mancunianmartin558 Месяц назад

      ​@thinkagain1187 They won't say. Typical rhetoric of a useful idiot. It's much easier to engage in automatic gainsaying that present a cogent counterargument.

    • @planitdesigns6192
      @planitdesigns6192 Месяц назад +2

      Fast forwarding the story to the early 1900s , The Balfour declaration was evil. I cannot come to your property and sign a declaration with you so that you can share your house with me by taking over the bedrooms and kitchen, and giving you the lounge dining and garage, then explaining you how privileged and fortunate you are. NO !! you will walk away from the deal because you want the whole of your property that was inherited to you from your forefathers.

  • @urielpolak9949
    @urielpolak9949 Месяц назад +10

    Thank you. I get disheartened sometimes

  • @jakehadlow5993
    @jakehadlow5993 9 дней назад

    Well done, Zoe!
    Putting a once great publication to shame. If only the New York Times were as sane as the staff at Quillette.

  • @forthfarean
    @forthfarean Месяц назад +6

    There are so many lies, half-truths and obfuscation around this issue that the truth is getting very difficult to find by listening to any Expert or historian or reading their books. The only way is to make personal investigations into the matter and few of us have the time or inclination to do this.

  • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
    @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +4

    During the twentieth century there were population exchanges in many conflict in the world. See that between Greece and Turkey see between India and Pakistan, see between German and poles. Only in one case they want to own the problem and founded a unique organization just for the Palestinian refugees, likewise, they changed the definition of a refugee in the case of the Palestinian and determind that even someone who was in the territory of Israel two years before the war is considered a refugee. Why need special agency for the Palestinian? And why change the refugee definition only in the case of the Palestinian?

  • @alittlebitofeverything6547
    @alittlebitofeverything6547 Месяц назад +5

    Genesis 17:7-8: "I will establish my covenant as an *everlasting* covenant between me and you and your offspring to come, to be God to you and to your offspring to come after you. The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an *everlasting* possession to you and your offspring, and I will be their God.'"

    • @lebojay
      @lebojay Месяц назад

      God isn’t real. The sooner people realize that the sooner there will be peace.
      Really, if you want peace in the middle east, saying “God says it’s mine” is not a good way to get there.

  • @trevorthompson1793
    @trevorthompson1793 Месяц назад +2

    Absolutely great video

  • @JesusPeopleSF
    @JesusPeopleSF Месяц назад +2

    Good review of this history.

  • @Madmen604
    @Madmen604 Месяц назад +24

    If the Arab Palestinians call their displacement a catastrophe, do they mean the war was a catastrophe?
    Because if the Arab world didn't declare war on Israel, and if partition had been accepted in the first place...maybe there would be peace today ..and mutually beneficial collaboration between the Arabs and Israelis.

    • @shaunboots4075
      @shaunboots4075 Месяц назад +2

      God said you have to give me half of your stuff.. When can I collect?

    • @Madmen604
      @Madmen604 Месяц назад

      @@shaunboots4075 Depends ...was it Allah or Yahweh talking?
      Because Allah says Death to Jews and death to America. No sharing.
      Buddy. The Arabs didn't even own land they leased it from the Sultan.

    • @emily-ti4vy
      @emily-ti4vy Месяц назад +3

      @@shaunboots4075original.

    • @chezbh
      @chezbh Месяц назад +3

      If you read the now declassified founding documents of Israel, the Jewish Agency publicly accepted the Partition, but they never actually accepted it in terms of policy. They sent their paramilitaries to attack Palestinian villages that were allotted for the Palestinian State according to the Partition. This was before the Arab Israeli War, which she did not include in her propaganda video here. The Israeli’s always intended to colonize all of historic Palestine, eventually. Acceptance of the Partition Plan at the UN was just to get their foot on the door for international recognition.
      Have any more questions? Ask me! Non-biased Jew here.

    • @Madmen604
      @Madmen604 Месяц назад +2

      @@chezbh do you have a reference for those documents please. Otherwise I cannot verify your information.

  • @Jules-Was-a-Christian
    @Jules-Was-a-Christian Месяц назад +3

    Excellent vid, thanks.

  • @anotherfreediver3639
    @anotherfreediver3639 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for shedding light on what is a forgotten period in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

  • @XRos28
    @XRos28 Месяц назад +1

    The number of "small" details you mention in the video is staggering, it can flip a narrative on its head by just looking at the facts. Superb job!

  • @YB-ok1ny
    @YB-ok1ny Месяц назад +9

    One thing they leave out is the fact that while Hitler like their ideology, he didn’t like non-Arian people, and his plan was to do away with them also once he got to the Middle East. Hitler’s world was only ever going to be an a Arian populated world.

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад

      Hitler don't like all the sami, the jews and the Arabs. He just want to use them in the war against the English. After he used them than he can kill them or make them slave. In is book he wrote against all the sami race Arabs and jews

  • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
    @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад +6

    True the word palestina is from the Hebrew word. פולש. ארץ הפולשים.

  • @orasherman1818
    @orasherman1818 Месяц назад +2

    Good work 👌🏻

  • @warrenwood3212
    @warrenwood3212 Месяц назад +2

    Good work

  • @barrybkopicz2845
    @barrybkopicz2845 Месяц назад +3

    In February 1941, 88% of the Arab Palestinians polled expressed support for Germany, while only 9% supported England
    Not Just The Mufti - the real extension of the Palestinian-NAZl collaboration
    When HitIer proclaimed the Nuremberg Race Laws in September 1935, a number of Palestinian Arabs sent telegrams congratulating him:
    “Delegations from the Arab world participated in the Nuremberg marches of the NAZlS, during the 1930s, and expressed their common disgust toward the Jews and their joint accusations of the Jews… Upon the publication of the racist Nuremberg Laws in 1935, HitIer received greetings from the entire Arab world, from Morocco to Palestine,

  • @colinress
    @colinress Месяц назад +7

    A lot of people also do not realize that the only Arab army that did well in 1948 was the Jordanian army of king Abdullah I. It was led and significantly helped by BRITISH military officers. The British government just wanted to insure its access to Saudi oil.

    • @ef2718
      @ef2718 Месяц назад

      British intelligence was also behind the army that was organized by the Arab league that was headed by an Iraqi officer, it was the first army to invade.

  • @chuckroberts3873
    @chuckroberts3873 Месяц назад +1

    Great and informative presentation.

  • @jacobkovac9631
    @jacobkovac9631 Месяц назад +1

    Finally a channel that is not scared to tell the truth!

  • @barak363363
    @barak363363 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you very much

  • @paul-assiddiq-001
    @paul-assiddiq-001 Месяц назад +3

    Great work 👍✨

  • @Fuzcapp
    @Fuzcapp Месяц назад +2

    Great research. Well done.

  • @UniverseSinking2011
    @UniverseSinking2011 13 дней назад +1

    Thank you for an excellent, historically accurate overview with ample citation of sources!

  • @Democratiser
    @Democratiser Месяц назад +16

    Well done - it is critical the facts form the basis of the ongoing conflict. Above all a desire for peaceful, sustainable coexistence on both sides is the critical ingredient for peace.
    While Israel has demonstrate its willingness to reach a peace agreement, successive Palestinian leaderships have been unable to reach agreement on that point. Instead they have elected to pursue opposition to the right of Israel to exist and, in the case of HAMAS and other Islamist terror groups, are committed to its destruction and the ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims from Palestine. Further, HAMAS prohibits peace talks with Israel or other nations altogether.

    • @parkforest434
      @parkforest434 Месяц назад +1

      Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.

    • @shaunboots4075
      @shaunboots4075 Месяц назад

      Hey god said he wants me to have all your stuff.. but I will settle for like 80%... when can I collect?

  • @4evaavfc
    @4evaavfc Месяц назад +76

    Israel is better just being Israel.

    • @shaunboots4075
      @shaunboots4075 Месяц назад

      Israel was a huge mistake

    • @parkforest434
      @parkforest434 Месяц назад +1

      Israel is not the issue,the real Jews are not from Europe,thanks to the Bible and a map Zionist bloodline will forever know the truth . Zionism is only 140 years old.

    • @newdude1258
      @newdude1258 Месяц назад

      In a groundbreaking collaborative study led by experts from the University of Oxford, the University of Michigan, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), there has been no conclusive evidence found to substantiate the existence of Judea. Despite exhaustive research spanning various disciplines including archaeology, history, and art history, the team reported a notable absence of artifacts, art, pottery, or any definitive historical records directly linking to the purported region of Judea. This revelation challenges long-standing historical narratives and prompts a reevaluation of our understanding of this ancient area.

    • @stab74
      @stab74 Месяц назад +5

      @@newdude1258 Hey look it's the copy paste guy posting AI made up horseshit. Any ground breaking studys you'd like to post about the earth being flat?

    • @yossefsidi5605
      @yossefsidi5605 Месяц назад

      @@stab74 🤣 nice
      What about some reserch about god? About Jesus and Muhamad? What about the history of America?
      And history of humans, whos from where? What kind of refugees do this planet has?

  • @ChaiGuy53
    @ChaiGuy53 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent historical review!

  • @victoriakn7480
    @victoriakn7480 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for your great job !!!!! Thank you for telling the truth !!!! ❤❤❤

  • @YB-ok1ny
    @YB-ok1ny Месяц назад +16

    Britain never had the right to divide up G-d’s land ghat was the indigenous Jewish homeland. They’ve been doing act over 7 for so many years.
    While you’re reading what apparently happened, some of us have stories from the people who were actually there at that time. So unfortunately you are leaving things out, but you can only read what you’ve been given.
    Many Israelis joined the British army to fight the Nazis. My father was one of them. I don’t think the Arabs joined the British Army. I’ll have to check all my photos.

    • @user-ru5qh8xn4v
      @user-ru5qh8xn4v Месяц назад

      Most of the Arabs palestinian support germany in second world war. They always take the wrong side

    • @yolandabrinkman2653
      @yolandabrinkman2653 Месяц назад

      There were arabs fighting, "shoulder to shoulder" as they say, with Jews in the British army during WWII in the same battalion There is photographic evidence of this. That is why I do not understand the hatred in 1948. While the Arab League supported nazi Germany because of their jewish programme and again incited hatred in 1948.

    • @BenDRobinson
      @BenDRobinson Месяц назад

      Heard of Lawrence of Arabia? The one who heroically convinced Arabs to turn against their Ottoman rulers, i.e. to help the Allies in WWI, in exchange for promises of supporting Arab self-determination after WWI? Of course he didn't mention the Balfour declaration, by which Britain had already promised land that wasn't even theirs to the Zionists.

  • @willbrink
    @willbrink Месяц назад +31

    Most people don't even know there's never been a Palestinian state, as in never. It's a fictional creation. One could perhaps blame the Brits for the attempt to separate them, but blaming the Jewish peoples makes no sense if one knows the actual history.

    • @forthfarean
      @forthfarean Месяц назад

      Britain did her best in an impossible situation. She should never have accepted the mandate; it was a poisoned chalice.

    • @superscopesix
      @superscopesix Месяц назад +1

      Golda Mier had a Palestinian passport...

    • @ponygirl6258
      @ponygirl6258 Месяц назад +4

      @@superscopesix It was a region--technically a British protectorate--not a state. The passport cover read "British Passport," with "Palestine" lower down.

    • @Sdguga
      @Sdguga Месяц назад +1

      ​@ponygirl6258 weird. I have Palestine written in the maps of all my Bibles

    • @ponygirl6258
      @ponygirl6258 Месяц назад +1

      @@Sdguga Yes, the region of Palestine...which is the land where the Jews lived. LOL

  • @arrow2042
    @arrow2042 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for shedding light on the truth. Since Oct 7 , I feel like singing "This Land is mine God gave this Land to me.
    This brave, this ancient land to me. And when the morning sun reveals her hills and plain
    Then I see a land where children can run free"

    • @RacoonLord-mt9hv
      @RacoonLord-mt9hv Месяц назад

      You do realize that your God gave you faaaar more than Palestine and Israel right? You guys gotta do more occupying I guess.

  • @whocares611
    @whocares611 Месяц назад +1

    Amazing video, finally a youtuber with deep knowledge

  • @elizabethelias1005
    @elizabethelias1005 Месяц назад +13

    Token Jews hating on Israel. This is heartbreaking.

    • @shaunboots4075
      @shaunboots4075 Месяц назад +1

      You don't have to be a jew to hate Israel

    • @foxisok
      @foxisok Месяц назад +5

      @@shaunboots4075
      The main reason for the hatred of Israel is that the State of Israel is an insult that is difficult for Muslims to bear...

    • @paulamarsh1
      @paulamarsh1 Месяц назад

      @@foxisok Correct! For some 400 years under the Ottomans, Jews were "dhimmis" or second class citizens. When a bunch of homeless old Jewish refugees arrived fleeing pogroms in Eastern Europe, the Arabs' honor and sense of shame was destroyed.

    • @ponygirl6258
      @ponygirl6258 Месяц назад +3

      @@foxisok I wish more people understood this. A land conquered by muslims is meant to belong to muslims forever. Some still talk about taking back Andalucia. The fundamentalists can't imagine accepting Israel, the insult is too great to bear.

    • @lebojay
      @lebojay Месяц назад

      “Token” Jews? Have you BEEN to New York City??
      Stop making Israel’s crimes about Judaism. I’m a Jew. It doesn’t stop me from calling out injustice when I see it, even when it comes from the Knesset. There is much to hate about Netanyahu and his government, especially for those of us who value peace over religion.
      The reason Jews all over America are being harassed right now is because of people like you claiming that Jews cannot be against the war. I don’t appreciate being associated with Netanyahu. Stop telling people my Judaism means that I do.
      And I’m no token. There are many like me. I love the land of Israel, but I hate its oppressive government. That is not a contradiction.

  • @michaelgonline
    @michaelgonline Месяц назад +4

    Excellent summary. Will challenge the majority of people who have TikTok attention spans to listen and absorb the information you so articulately explain.

  • @eliyahudror
    @eliyahudror Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for making this video. This video is one of the very few factual and truthful reports on the history of the situation. Everyone should see this and know this.

  • @vladimirputindreadlockrast7725
    @vladimirputindreadlockrast7725 Месяц назад +2

    Well researched.

  • @wendyandrew3707
    @wendyandrew3707 Месяц назад +3

    I'm glad to hear this proper history again. The propaganda of on mission being corrected. I hear it from different sources, but because its complicated good to her again. I still couldn't summarise or repeat it. I wish I could.

  • @jeffreyerwin3665
    @jeffreyerwin3665 Месяц назад +3

    This history of the 1948 war in Palestine is disputed. A completely different version is to be found in "The Hundred Years' War on Palestine," by Rashid Khalidi, 2020.

    • @oleggold
      @oleggold Месяц назад

      His book is just another propaganda for the Palestinian cause.
      No mention of Palestinians in the Quran even. Islam is younger than the land that was called Palestine by the Romans 2000 years ago.
      How can it be that the religion that was born in the middle east, during the time of that land being called Palestine, no mention at all of the land or the people being called Palestinians?
      In no books or historical references, there's a mention of Palestinians until the middle of the 20th century.
      Only around the 20s you have a first mention of some sort of a start of some idea of Palestinians being only Arabs (until then all Palestinians were anyone who lived under the rule of thar period, Ottomans or British mandate, including Jews were Palestinians as that was the name of the land. So it wasn't an Arab identity of an ethnic group).
      And you actually have Palestinian leaders in the 60s and 70s saying (in arabic, and you can find the quotes in the comment section here) saying that their Palestinian identity is just a way to promote grabbing of the land and the moment they will destroy Israel, they will connect to Lebanon/Jordan, because there's no real difference between them and the so called Palestinians.
      "Palestinians" is a false narrative that became a reality today. They weren't planning on this to go for so long. Now of course they already have an actual national or ethnical identity, which is fine. Time creates different cultures and people. But they weren't a people 100 years ago or even 80 years ago. And of course they never had a state.
      Palestinians don't have a history as a people before the 20th century.

    • @charlesgreen2647
      @charlesgreen2647 4 дня назад

      Consider the source

    • @jeffreyerwin3665
      @jeffreyerwin3665 4 дня назад

      @@charlesgreen2647 Zionist propaganda has a source, too. Thousands and thousands of people were dispossessed of their homes, businesses, schools, farms, and communtiy infrastructuue without any legal justification and based only on the zionist philosophy that only people of the correct ethnicity were entitled to possession. Very similar to Germany's lebensraum program.

  • @alongoldhirsh6697
    @alongoldhirsh6697 16 дней назад

    Wow wow wow. What a great video of your’s, as an Israeli Jewish person I feel like I must thank you. This video was amazing and it was very well researched. It was so well researched that even I as an Israeli 15 years old citizen didn’t know everything ( for the record my knowledge is quite deep in the subject). I think the only thing I can say is I salute you. In those times when all of the antisemitism and Palestinian propaganda are increasing, it’s very hard for us the Jews and too see youngsters like you speaking like that instead of being influenced by social pressure and go too the big universities and protest for the complete erase of Israel is making me have a little more hope and be happier. Thank you so much ❤

  • @joshuabub1926
    @joshuabub1926 21 день назад

    Thank you for publishing, this is exactly what the college kids need to hear!

  • @HebrewHammerArmsCo
    @HebrewHammerArmsCo Месяц назад +3

    Why do Arabs Identify as Emperor Hadrian Romans? Makes as much sense as the Chewbacca Defense

  • @amarshlomo2788
    @amarshlomo2788 Месяц назад +4

    There never existed a country/state or a people called Palestine.

  • @leonman30
    @leonman30 Месяц назад +1

    Excellent video. Well researched and thoughtful. Thanks!

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp Месяц назад +2

    Great work. Once upon a time I had a book, Genesis 1948 and currently I have The Arab-Israeli Wars: War and Peace in the Middle East by Chaim Herzog.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp Месяц назад +25

    'Palestine does not exist'. Lebanese born JD Farag. His grandmother is from Nazareth.

    • @mustafabarzanji9280
      @mustafabarzanji9280 Месяц назад

      I'll do you one better and say that Arab does not exist either. It's all a lie!

    • @mustafabarzanji9280
      @mustafabarzanji9280 Месяц назад

      No actually, Arabs don't exist either 😊

    • @ef2718
      @ef2718 Месяц назад

      "There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a Zionist invention"... 1937 Awni Bey Abdul Hadi
      "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not.”...Prof. Philip K. Hitti, distinguished Arab historian, author of the authoritative book "The Arabs", testifying at the 1946 Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry.
      "Such a creature as Palestine does not exist at all...." Ahmad Shukeiri 1956
      "The Palestinian people does not exist...". Zuheir Mohsen (31 March 1977 - interview : “Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden,” James Dorsey, Trouw)
      “A state named ‘Palestine’ has never existed.”...Hafez al-Assad, Syrian President, at a conference in Amman in 1987
      "Brothers, half the Palestinians are Egyptians, the other half are Arabs...." Palestinian Minister Fathi Hammad - In a speech broadcast on Egyptian Al-Helma TV on 23 March 2012
      "Jordanians and Palestinians are one people living in two states" .... "Mahmoud Abbas" - 20 Oct 2016

    • @mohammedzakaria7449
      @mohammedzakaria7449 Месяц назад +1

      Israel never existed by palestine did

    • @mustafabarzanji9280
      @mustafabarzanji9280 Месяц назад

      Arabs don't exist. I'm an Arab ghost and I confirm we are a hoax.

  • @galiabaron
    @galiabaron Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for standing up to propaganda

  • @siddude
    @siddude Месяц назад +1

    What a great video. It was very informative and educational.

  • @nnahshon
    @nnahshon Месяц назад +1

    Thank you, Benny Morris and the producers of this video. Given the existing historical record, there shouldn't have been a need to "set the record straight," but the false propaganda needs to be addressed. New York Times - *Are you paying attention?*

  • @markaxworthy2508
    @markaxworthy2508 Месяц назад +11

    It is not surprising that Palestinian Arabs were less committed to taking part in WWII than Palestinian Jews. The former had no dog in the fight. The latter very much did. Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews served in mixed units on the first half of the war, neither in combat roles. Only in the second half of the war were Palestinian Jews allowed to form their own infantry brigade, which served some months in Italy. This gave them a massive advantage in military experience over Palestinian Arabs in 1948.

    • @angusp5178
      @angusp5178 Месяц назад +14

      The video does not say it's 'surprising'. It sheds light on misleading claims of Palestinians fighting against Nazism.

    • @markaxworthy2508
      @markaxworthy2508 Месяц назад

      @@angusp5178 It is certainly the case that 12,000 Palestinian Arabs served in British uniform. It was the British who did not form them into combat units. It was the same with Palestinian Jews until mid war. Only then did the British raise the Jewish Brigade, but not an equivalent Arab Brigade.
      Interestingly, those who claim that the Mandate Arabs got an Arab state in Transjordan seem to forget that Transjordan's Arab Legion was fighting the Axis years before the Jewish Brigade.

    • @cgsather3309
      @cgsather3309 Месяц назад +12

      The Arabs of the Middle East were very much committed to fighting in WW2. 7,300 were recruited in Syria and Iraq and 1,300 from Palestine by the Mufti Al-Husseini for the Nazis. They formed the SS Free Arabia Legion and were transported to Germany occupied Greece, disembarked at Cap Sounion. Then they fought in Greece and the Balkans, along other Muslims the Mufti had recruited in the Balkans, with a fat German salary that was 5 times the income of a Wehrmacht general. Some of the Bosnian Nazis emigrated to Palestine where they fought against the Jews after the war.
      History has consequences.

    • @markaxworthy2508
      @markaxworthy2508 Месяц назад

      @@cgsather3309 What a load of half-truths and downright falsehoods!
      The Arab unit raised by Germany in the Balkans originally came from Palestinian pioneer companies raised by the British but abandoned by them on a beach in the Peloponnese in late April 1941. They were thus easy prey for the Mufti.
      I would like to know more about their "fat German salary that was 5 times the income of a Wehrmacht general." What have you got? My bet is nothing.
      Oh, and can we have a primary source for the Bosnian emigrants to Palestine? (I am not holding my breath on this one, either!)

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 Месяц назад

      @@angusp5178 The made-up 'Palestinians', i.e. Arabs who lived in that region were on the side of the Nazis, see: Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

  • @jennylee1802
    @jennylee1802 Месяц назад +9

    Only the Chinese Communists Party can deal with these Palestinians and keep them behave quietly.

    • @chezbh
      @chezbh Месяц назад +3

      Such racist comments here.

    • @SinNombreBiH
      @SinNombreBiH Месяц назад

      @@chezbh They are all like that, they just hide under ther victim flag and their propaganda.

    • @dogbert52
      @dogbert52 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@chezbhwhy is it racist?

    • @annapachaclarke2392
      @annapachaclarke2392 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@chezbhToo bad for you!

  • @catspeakegroove
    @catspeakegroove Месяц назад +1

    Great work. So much material! Many thanks 🙏

  • @stephenmoerlein8470
    @stephenmoerlein8470 25 дней назад +1

    Thanks for posting the historical clarification.